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I wasn't applauding violence, Med. I was applauding a very well written rebuttal.


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'And I was not advocating it.  I was condemning the EXCUSING of it and the attempt to make the argument racial.

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Steve Bannon who was instrumental in getting Trump "elected" is supposedly on his way OUT

in addition the remaining members of the Presidents Art Council have all resigned

and the dumpster fire that is the Trump Presidency continues to smolderLOL
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Bannon Gone....

Just Chump to fall on his sword.....
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These sweeping generalizations have no basis if facts. This merely the echo of the media who have been saying Trump was failing since the day he was sworn in. The economy is thriving. The stock market went up not down today after all this drama. And we just squared off with North Korea who backed down on launching nuclear missiles on Guam.

Media won't touch it or any other good things that Trump has doing or is doing. They ranted through the whole election with their polls he was losing. They lied. He won. They said it would be a landslide for Hillary and as least in electoral votes, it was a big majority for Trump.

He has fulfilled many of his campaign promises and continues to try to do the best he can against a hostile press who cannot even cover the news accurately.

Now, more than ever we need Independent Real News.

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Mexican wall, which they will pay for
Cancellation of Obamacare
Those were the first to jump to mind.  Nothing has happened with North Korea that did not happen under previous administrations, except KJU has increased his weaponry and reach.  The stock market is up and so are the employment figures, part of which is Trump's doing, part a leftover from Obama.  The dollar has taken a big tumble.  That is good for export and big business, but makes the people even poorer as your buying power has diminished.

"Make America Great Again." is my personal favorite campaign promise.  He has.  America has become a great laughing stock.  That is not a generalization.  It is a simple fact right across Europe.
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Ps.  What is so generalized about Steve Bannon going?
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Bannon: Trump presidency we fought for is over


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bannon-trump-presidency-we-fought-for-is-over/ar-AAqjmRE?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=wispr


""His natural tendency — and I think you saw it this week on Charlottesville — his actual default position is the position of his base, the position that got him elected."


and a big thank you to Mr Bannon for finally speaking the truth and telling many what we have long suspected

that quote says it all

racists,white supremacists,KKK types,some out in the open ,others not so much


the UGLY side of AMuRIkA is increasingly out in the open

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‘Populist Hero’ Stephen K. Bannon Returns Home to Breitbart


http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/08/18/populist-hero-stephen-k-bannon-returns-home-breitbart/


hero?


HERO ???


I guess they have changed the definition of the word?


I wonder if people are beginning to fully realize what is happening in this country and TO this country?


HINT?


it ain't nothing good


dark days ahead for America

 DARK DAYS AHEAD


Trump and Bannon arent the disease but they are certainly are  the symptoms

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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

Bannon: Trump presidency we fought for is over


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bannon-trump-presidency-we-fought-for-is-over/ar-AAqjmRE?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=wispr


""His natural tendency — and I think you saw it this week on Charlottesville — his actual default position is the position of his base, the position that got him elected."


and a big thank you to Mr Bannon for finally speaking the truth and telling many what we have long suspected

that quote says it all

racists,white supremacists,KKK types,some out in the open ,others not so much


the UGLY side of AMuRIkA is increasingly out in the open



This is an incredible misquote of the media of Bannon. In fact, it has been said imitation if the most sincere form of flattery - and I am flattered as I continue to try to get The Real News - CWN on video. It is already online on Facebook and the website.

CNN still can't get their ducks in a row. What did Bannon say exactly? First if you keep misspelling America I will get you confused with a terrorist who used to write me and tell me they were going to nuke Seattle which they almost did in Cave of Darkness. His spelling was Amerika - and he claimed to be the real deal. Where are you from that you can't even spell America?

Now back to Bannon:

Ousted White House chief strategist Stephen Bannon returned to the conservative Breitbart News website on Friday and said he’ll be “going to war” for President Donald Trump, vowing to intensify the fight he has waged against opponents of his brand of populist conservatism.

“If there’s any confusion out there, let me clear it up: I’m leaving the White House and going to war for Trump against his opponents -- on Capitol Hill, in the media, and in corporate America,” Bannon told Bloomberg News Friday in his first public comments after his departure was announced.

What exactly is confusing about this? He going to war for Trump against his opponents. Perhaps English 101a should be required for all U.S. citizens. 

Once again the media is off on a rant and they can't even find new news on the weekend and keep reprinting the same news stories.

So today a conservative group peacefully demonstrated in Boston. They had to cut it short after a social justice warrior (one of 15,000) grabbed an elderly lady holding an American flag and threw her on the ground.

Another article covers the number of token blacks in the Democratic party.

You realize of course Republican does not equal Nazi or White Supremacist and they are not all old farts living two lives and with their sheets on at night -burning crosses and terrorizing blacks.

No, some are a group who think the racism is now coming from what was the minorities as well as cop killers and the Children of Anarchy who want chaos  and love a good demonstration to smash and break things and beat up elderly women.

How noble.

Freedom of speech. I have posted that after an almost government take over of minorities, especially in the presidency, there would be a rebound. Many would have, not the least Obama, wanted to see him in a third term. In fact, the setting up of the Ebola situation with a new way to declare a national emergency and revert back to martial law and call off the elections was a strategy in place.

If it could have worked, they would have done it. You know in history, the government has never given back power. Once they have invaded our privacy and freedom, it never reverts until there is a revolution. Of course, people like Jefferson said the there would be revolutions to sustain at least the Republic. The founding fathers never thought a democracy would work.  This would put power in the mob who would pass never-ending laws to pay them money from the government until it was broke.

We are on the verge of that now. If we don't raise the debt ceiling the government will be shut down.

People who go on about free speech - ie. S.J.W. - social justice warriors - do not want the conservatives to utter a syllable. They are not about free speech. They are about being heard with no real solutions except violence and assassination as a policy.

So we are all watched daily on our phones, in here, from cameras at intersections, even with our infrared images and some being harassed by ultra sound and microwaves.

All since 9-11 - All in the name of protecting us with a gene data base that is huge and the desire to use massive spying to take away all right of privacy in a climate of fear and suspicion.

What is the greatest enemy? The press.  And it is controlled by the same forces and special interests and big money - while the common people think it is for them. It is not. It is all about money and those without it - support them as they pedal yellow journalism and Jerry Springer drama.

It is mostly lies.

So, as I try to set up "The Real News" - have been for 3 years - Looks like Bannon did some simple addition and left the White House (creating his own demise) to go make a ton of money doing Independent News.

Well - good luck Bannon. It won't belong before some left wing crazy is waving your head in the air on some video using special effects and calling you a Nazi. Waiting for the book Bannon - I was a hostage of the S.J.W. and the Scientologists freed me and took me to Australia.

Sigh.

Wish we could go back to Kansas, Toto - we are sure not there anymore.

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I am WELL aware of what Bannon said
I read it multiple times
Bannon is going to be one of Trumps worst enemies in the end
WHY?
because Bannon has his own agenda
this is obvious
his use of Trump was only a means to an end
Trump is his "useful idiot"
a mere tool,a puppet
Bannon is truly an evil person
that is becoming more and more obvious as time passes

and do I really need to explain the difference between AMERICA and AMuRIkA ???
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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

I am WELL aware of what Bannon said
I read it multiple times
Bannon is going to be one of Trumps worst enemies in the end
WHY?
because Bannon has his own agenda
this is obvious
his use of Trump was only a means to an end
Trump is his "useful idiot"
a mere tool,a puppet
Bannon is truly an evil person
that is becoming more and more obvious as time passes

and do I really need to explain the difference between AMERICA and AMuRIkA ???


Yes, you do. As I work in software engineering designing Virtual Reality for World of Twine - my engineers get real ticked over words with no definitions. Have grown up for 69 years now - just had a birthday - I am rather used to America.

I did notice the stocks went up after he fired Bannon. Obviously there does need to be housecleaning still when people there are selling top secret data to the media for money. They probably should have sacked everyone and brought in new people.

The media would be laughable but it is so dangerous to people who just believe it. They have these headlines which are not supported by the content - and yes - some people just look at the pictures - get on the phone - or worse get a gun or some type nasty thing to hurt someone with - and head out as a result of the pure lies and fabrication.

There is no self-check on the media. There are rarely any fines unless the mistake can be proved to be "intentional and criminal or slanderous". Even then they retract they are rarely punished.

Perhaps what we need more than Anarchy - which seems to be a new hobby for millions - is simply the truth on events happening around the world. All these would be "save the world" people can help tell it with real time smart phones and video. Trump trumps the media with his tweets. It is an amazingly effective tool to say exactly what he wants to say with having it misquoted.

Unfortunately there is the issue of knowing when to wait to speak and have all the data. In our world, once something is out there - it's out there. You can delete it from Facebook - you could somehow get it off where you posted it - but someone has already made a copy - or has a log running on your machine or a keylogger (I just removed 3 very illegal ones from my computer).

People seem to want to read about violence, murder, and sex. We know they want to watch it in the videos - with two dozen murders in an average action film or video.  Why are we so entertained by death. If there was no market for terror and hatred - it would end. People would not do it for free.

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Republican meant somewhat right wing and sensibly business orientated. Those with a brain which ruled their hearts found a home there.

Not any more.  Trump's far-right attitude, his nepotism, his careful selection of advisers who made Atilla The Hun look like a soft hippy from the far left and his inability to stop digging when half buried, his manipulation of the truth and silencing of dissent, have made some Republicans rethink their positions and has tarnished its reputation with the middle-ground-floating-voter.  Now it is seen as the Nazi party by many.  The sooner they "dump Trump the chump", the sooner they will regain the trust of the currently horrified.  I sincerely hope the damage is not permanent, as too much left-wing politics bankrupts a country often within a decade; and that will be the next swing if the damage is not curtailed.  

 "So today a conservative group peacefully demonstrated in Boston. They had to cut it short after a social justice warrior (one of 15,000) grabbed an elderly lady holding and American flag and threw her on the ground."  Where do you think the drivers for behavior as this comes from?  No, I am not applauding this either, it is horrible!  I am asking if you can see why it happened.  Yes!  American flags now raise anger - IN AMERICA!  That did not happen a year ago.  It is happening now - under Trump! 

Yes, Med, racism comes from black and ethnic minorities.  Steriotyping, which leads to some racism, is a natural human behavior pattern.  It helped our ancestors survive, by automatically classing all leopards as killers - after one ate a relative.  But, there is the same racism from "white" people too  for exactly the same stupid simian reasons.  That leaves the human race with three choices:

#! Fight to the death with the surviving color ruling the ashes,  We will probably go on to fight over eye or hair color next so: "hello extinction!"
#2 Muddle along with some clashes as we do now.  Sooner or later there will be a Hitler or another genocide, maybe even Trump will cause it, but we will survive, even if we never sleep a whole night through again because of the guilt.  Hey!  Maybe we can piss the other sides off enough to turn the tables and become the underdog for a while; until they turn it back again by hanging strange white fruit.
#3 Try and overcome our baser instincts and live together peacefully.  We already control our murderous urges our sexual urges and many of our other simian weaknesses.  That is the point of civilization.  It makes life nicer, easier and much, much longer.

As option #3 is the only civilized one, the only desirable one and the only Christian one, perhaps we should all make an effort to suspend judgments based on race or creed alone.  

You can water the racism tree or prune it.  

Put your bucket away, Med!
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" I am rather used to America."
yes you are
that is patently obvious

the fact that you don't know what AMuRIkA means is very telling
that fact that you don't seem to recognize that AmURIkA  exists is very disturbing
kind of like have a metastatic cancer and not knowing it

you keep making references to "the good old days" it seems
"when people"..........

those days NEVER existed
NEVER
and I say that as a life long student of history

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Oh, by the way, Med, AMuRIkA:   http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Amurika  No prizes for guessing which way Satori meant it.  It harks back to the treatment of your flag at that rally you mentioned.  You do need to ask yourself: "Why?"
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Some need to watch "Louis Theroux"and the Nazi's,if you don't know who Louis Theroux is Google him, I'm on holiday at the moment on the beautiful island of Tasmania,so can't cut and paste links from phone, Louis is a documentry film maker goes all over the world interviewing and live with people,who are are "on the fringe" And with extreme views and ways of life. He has also been in Harlem living with Black rights leaders makes interesteing watching......
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As CNN plays Gotcha on Trump's visit to Texas.

It was rather reminiscent of a husband who sacrifices his life for his wife, and after 50 years of working hard and making her his world, she might say "but Harry - you never told me you loved me that much."

"My life did," Harry said.

So, CNN has a bone which they are waving in the air. Trump did not state anything about caring or compassion for the the victims of the storm in Texas.

This will likely have a flag on it in hours and Washington Post has also picked it up along with continued showing a picture of Melania trump in high heels in the rain which was taken in another state than Texas. She wore tennis shoes as they arrived.

The FBI will not release information on Hillary Clinton's huge crime of compromising of United States security with her email scandal because "it is not in the interest of the American public to do so".

Go to jail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.

She is beyond the law.

Obama golfed as people drowned in Louisiana and the new proven bogus video of him helping in Texas as "The President"went viral on the Internet.

http://freedomdaily.com/obama-pretends-president-texas-flood-victims-backfires-saw-else/

God help us all if Trump gets any credit for even trying to help in Texas and will help. It is not the job of a president to go around hugging people and holding babies. This is politics - it is grandstanding and incredibly fake. I don't see Hillary going on twitter expressing her sadness and compassion for those in Texas. Not a single democrat in New York or California so far has said much about Harvey.

Nope - they are too busy trying to convince the public that Trump is crazy and should be impeached and we should become socialist and open our borders to everyone as the jobs flow outward as well as our money to other countries.

So far not a single celebrity I have read about has said thing one about Texas. No heartfelt compassion or even assistance.

It won't revive their being forgotten as they age badly and need to keep reminding everyone what they have done.

FEMA was dead in the water during Katrina - and we have another Katrina coming in a few days in Louisiana. Prevention is worth a pound of cure and getting the agencies together to help people get food, power, and a place to stay is more important than expressions of pity with nothing to back it up.

A starving person would say - I don't want your pity - I need your help.

New Yorkers are not that fond of Texans or the South. Neither are Californians. Their primary interest is their own cities, their immigrant population, and not improving the economy or caring about other parts of the U.S. Not all - but many - only care about themselves.

People are too busy beating people up and calling everyone racist to show some genuine compassion for a state that has had a storm of biblical proportions and the press way too obsessed with negating any positives on Trump with stories of "the investigation continues" while Hillary did not even get a slap on the wrist for treason and never will.

She was above the law. Bill Clinton was above the law. Their organization sold favors for money to enemies of the U.S. and made hundreds of millions of dollars (as is Obama is now) while professing to care about the poor.

They never did.

It is unlikely the mainstream media will ever change. That is why we desperately need Independent News and an effort to find out the truth.  It will emerge and finally just as Twitter does- move around all the controlled political complex and companies that control data in the world and give you the truth - the real news.

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You said:   "A starving person would say - I don't want your pity - I need your help. "
I said: "Trump going to Texas was a HINDERANCE, not a help.  But it makes him look humanitarian."
'Nuff said.
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Ps, No one is above the law. Bill Clinton was impeached after all.  But the very rich and powerful can sometimes put it off a while.  That is why Trump is vastly rich while the people he ruined with repeated bankruptcies may never recover.  Now he is in control of the appointment of the most senior judges, political advisors and the head of the FBI.  That should hold the law off for a while.
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