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Med - eight years ago, many of us were discussing the very real possibility of having to prep for a global depression rather than a pandemic. The domestic auto industry was in danger of sinking without trace, foreclosures were running at record levels, and the stock market was dead in the water. Obama certainly didn't do all he promised while he was in office, but considering that house Republicans like Mitch McConnell pledged from the beginning of his presidency to block everything he tried to do, it was remarkable that anything was acheived.

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"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.
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many Presidents are remembered for the words they have spoken,inspiring words of wisdom that have given the country strength during troubled times
others
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not so much

Haunting Photos Feature Trump’s Sexist Comments Drawn On Women’s Bodies

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0bd9c3dfddf27
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CONFIRMED: Donald Trump Wants Goldman Sachs President for Top Economic Job

CONFIRMED: Donald Trump Wants Goldman Sachs President for Top Economic Job

CONFIRMED: Donald Trump Wants Goldman Sachs President for Top Economic Job

http://www.redstate.com/joesquire/2016/12/12/confirmed-donald-trump-wants-goldman-sachs-president-top-economic-job/



the VERY people largely responsible for the 2008 crash that was the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression


but I will be different this time

NO

REALLY

it willTongue

what is that Judge Judy says ?

something to the effect

"doN'T %$%$ on my leg and tell me its raining ' ?


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A Guide to Donald Trump's Huge Debts—and the Conflicts They Present


http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/12/guide-donald-trump-debt


"One of those loans is a $950 million deal that was cobbled together by Goldman Sachs and the state-owned Bank of China"

hey wait a minute

didn't Trump just put A Goldman Sucks guy in charge of something?

yeah,I think he did


good grief

"conflict of interest" doesn't even begin to describe it

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As long as the Federal Reserve Bank controls the currency, presidential elections are nothing more than political theatrics. Ask yourselves a question, since the first time you first cast a ballot in a presidential election, name one thing that has ever truly changed, except for higher taxation, regulations, and more laws. The wars on poverty, homelessness, hunger, illiteracy, drugs, terrorism, and ....... still rages on! For all of the trillions of dollars that have been pissed away, you would think we would have reached Nirvana by now.
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Originally posted by MrMouse MrMouse wrote:

As long as the Federal Reserve Bank controls the currency, presidential elections are nothing more than political theatrics. Ask yourselves a question, since the first time you first cast a ballot in a presidential election, name one thing that has ever truly changed, except for higher taxation, regulations, and more laws. The wars on poverty, homelessness, hunger, illiteracy, drugs, terrorism, and ....... still rages on! For all of the trillions of dollars that have been pissed away, you would think we would have reached Nirvana by now.


This is a very interesting comment and I thank you for posting it. One thing that has truly changed is we have never had a billionaire for president. Politicians throughout the history of the United States could be bought in one way or another, if only by the money to help them get elected.

I have never seen any president take on both Boeing and Lockheed Missiles and Space. I worked at Lockheed and during the time of nuclear missile production and other contracts, no one dared to say - you are charging too much.

Rarely has a president balked at using much less financing with taxpayer money Air Force One. Few have stood up to China and most recently Iran for that matter.

Perhaps a few - as in Bush - stood up and sent troops into Iraq after they invaded Kuwait and kicked some butt for the first time in decades anywhere. Kennedy in my lifetime told Russia to backoff and they did. We all felt we were on the verge of a nuclear war.

Presidents have come and gone with their mistresses and shady encounters where perhaps less than you can count on the fingers of your two hands have been faithful to their wives.

If Wall Street is so powerful then they must know something about Trump that most don't - look at the market.

The Democrats still won't quit and accept the Hillary lost.  

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/13/trump-victories-certified-in-wisconsin-pennsylvania.html


President-elect Donald Trump's victories in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania were certified Monday, further affirming his win over Democrat Hillary Clinton in last month's presidential election. 

Wisconsin finalized its recount, which showed Trump beating Clinton by more than 22,000 votes, on the same day that a federal judge issued a stinging rejection of a Green Party-backed request to recount paper ballots in Pennsylvania's presidential election and scan some counties' election systems for signs of hacking.

Later Monday, Pennsylvania certified the state's results in the Nov. 8 election, which saw Trump defeat Clinton by more than 44,000 votes. 

comment: Yet, now we have a new strategy. Say the vote was invalid because of Russian hacking emails and having them published.

And once again - the same song. No, we aren't trying to invalidate the election, we just want to know the truth i.e. President Obama.

Since when do the NSA, the FBI, or the CIA start making public their private intelligence?  This is not the FBI, CIA, or NSA I know. Secrecy is important to protect agents,  contacts, and lives, and people in place and investigations. Since when do they publically tell what is going on with hackers from Russia?

If the government hadn't blown it by announcing plans to invade Mosul, we would have probably gotten the head of ISIS. Trump said this was dumb and criticized them for it.

At the same time, Clinton was a huge security risk and even gave away the protocol for the U.S. president to respond to a nuclear threat and specifics on it which were a violation of national security. 

The Democrats were in power and helped to form ISIS just as they did the Mujahadeen.  Arming terrorists and sending them to training camps is not the way to deal with the Middle East. The rebels in Syria were for the most part terrorists who were attacking us in other areas. 

Nothing is more degrading to women than to betray your own wife and having sex in the White House and then be impeached for it. Not the sex - for lying about it.

Trump is bringing not only people of color into the Cabinet, but women to powerful positions and continues to break the glass ceiling in many ways.  He did not use this as a campaign circus to get votes and the people he is picking to make things better for the blacks and minorities are significant intelligent voices who will help clean up the inner cities.

Who has done this in 30 years? No one.

Up until now money has ruled most of Congress and even the Presidency. Not any more. This president doesn't need their money. He has his own. Yet, he is sensitive to and trying to help the working class, businesses, and bring jobs back.

There will be change and it's about time isn't it?  Time to move on and build a better America. I am tired of being ashamed of our policies and actions around the world. I want to be proud of my country, our armed forces, our law enforcement, and the salt of the earth people who break their backs working to support the majority who don't. I already am and now we have someone who respects these people as well.

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LMAO !
I'm not gonna waste my time going over that post line by line

lets just pick one topic to address

the new Air Force One

Trump is talking about something he knows NOTHING about
and neither does anyone else who just repeats his talking point
do a little research on the subject

yes
taxpayers would save a fortune if Trump could use his personal plane for example
or another off the rack jet liner
but a gold plated toilet ain't gonna stop EMP or an air to air missile LOL
this is the leader of the free world for crying out loud
his or her life HAS to be protected at any necessary cost

good grief
its like watching the FAUX News Network
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steps 1 and 2 ?

It's Official: Trump Picks Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson To Lead The State Department



CONFIRMED: Donald Trump Wants Goldman Sachs President for Top Economic Job



"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power."

Benito Mussolini, Fascist dictator of Italy

anyone here capable of adding up 2+2 ?
let me know what ya come up with
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Shep Smith: 'Russians Did Intervene In Election'

http://crooksandliars.com/2016/12/sh...ian-government

and have you seen the new info coming out about Trump and Turkey?

AMuRiKA,what have you done ? Cry
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Unemployment Rate SKYROCKETS to 42% First Day of Trump Presidency !!!

I Can't Wait To Hear Donald Trump Discuss 'HIS' Unemployment Numbers


http://crooksandliars.com/2016/12/i-cant-wait-hear-trump-discuss-his

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My previous post was dealing with domestic issues that Americans face on a daily basis. Politicians live in a different reality than the vast majority of Americans. They don't truly represent their constituents, they're in the back pockets of the Central Bank, Wall Street, Big Pharma, Military Industrial Complex, Big Oil, and whom ever else grease their treads with campaign contributions. And, all the while we struggle to keep roofs over our heads and food in our stomachs. Every election cycle it's always the same BS, about how we need change, but what ever charges for the better on a micro economic level for the everyday American? Yeah, the Central Bank has kept the interest rate artificially low to off set the value of the dollar, but aside from that energy prices are up, college tuition is way up, food prices are up. So, if Hillary would have won I really don't see how she would have improved the everyday situation for most working class Americans either.
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Here's an example of something that could have changed the lives of Americans. When President Obama first took office in 2008, he ran on a platform of Hope and Change. There's hardly a day that goes by that we don't hear about climate change, and how the administration was going to usher in a new era of shovel ready jobs in the technology sector to help combat carbon emissions. Well, we all know what happened with Solyndra, and all of that money that went down that rabbit hole! Imagine if our tax dollars weren't squandered away on this, that, and the other, and instead that money invested in powering most homes in America with solar systems. But, we all know that if Americans cut the cord with their utility companies that would cut into profits, and cities would lose tax revenues. How would they tax the sunlight?
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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

Shep Smith: 'Russians Did Intervene In Election'

http://crooksandliars.com/2016/12/sh...ian-government

and have you seen the new info coming out about Trump and Turkey?

AMuRiKA,what have you done ? Cry


Wrong.

This is infighting of the Democrats over the betrayal of Bernie Sanders by an aggressive Hillary Clinton and revenge for stealing the nomination. It has nothng to do with the Russians at all.  The entire circus was so corrupt with hired people to sabatoge the Republican rallys and start violence. Fox and CNN are hurting and are now resorting to creating news versus reporting it.

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WRONG!

seriously ?
some EX-ambassador says something and now it is taken as gospel ???
even a REPUBLICAN Senator has now come out and said his campaign was hacked by the Russians

and Bernie was not going to win the nomination anyway

sabotage the Republican rallies ?
LMAO !!!

I can't wait to hear your spin on the TRUE unemployment rate
LOL !!!
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I can't wait to see how Trump deals with this

China adding weapons to artificial islands, increasing tensions in South China Sea
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/12/15/1611387/-China-adding-weapons-to-artificial-islands-increasing-tensions-in-South-China-Sea

he has a secret plan to defeat ISIS
he has a secret plan to end inner city violence
he has a secret plan to bring back ALL the coal mining jobs
he has a secret plan to bring back tens of millions of manufacturing jobs
surely he has a secret plan for this too ?

I think Obama should step down early
I can't wait to see Trump in action
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Personally, I haven't seen Bernie stir up so much excitement in a very long time! In my area there were Bernie signs everywhere, and people canvassing neighborhoods during the primary urging anyone and everyone who would listen to vote for Bernie. My wife worked the polls during the primary, and she said people were tremendously excited about Bernie. I know a lot of die hard Bernie supporters, and they felt robbed by the Hillary' campaign. I noticed an interesting observation after the primary, I saw only a handful of Hillary yard signs out, and absolutely no enthusiasm for her at all. I'm a member of one of the largest labor unions in the country, and there was no overwhelming excitement for her at all compared to Bernie. The Democrats shot themselves in the foot by stealing the nomination away from Bernie because I think he could have beat Trump. I got the sense that Hillary felt she was entitled to the democratic nomination and presidency.

Bernie Slips on Hillary? - Trump Ran Against ‘Most Unpopular Presidential Candidate in History’

http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/eric-scheiner/bernie-slips-trump-ran-against-most-unpopular-presidential-candidate-history - www.cnsnews.com/blog/eric-scheiner/bernie-slips-trump-ran-against-most-unpopular-presidential-candidate-history
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depends on what area of the country you are in
around here I did not see a single Bernie sign
I did see one bumper sticker though
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I live in Los Angles. I think why Trump won was because people wouldn't admit to their friends and family that they were going to vote for Trump, but once in the election booth they did.
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oh great
so now we're not going to have a real First Lady in the White House?

Ivanka Trump is literally moving into a space meant for her father's wife

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/12/15/1611080/-Ivanka-Trump-is-literally-moving-into-a-space-meant-for-her-father-s-wife


oh well  Melania after all is a piece of arm candy from Slovenia with a high school education
and lets not forget the nude photos

Hollywood couldn't make this stuff upLOL
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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

WRONG!

seriously ?
some EX-ambassador says something and now it is taken as gospel ???
even a REPUBLICAN Senator has now come out and said his campaign was hacked by the Russians

and Bernie was not going to win the nomination anyway

sabotage the Republican rallies ?
LMAO !!!

I can't wait to hear your spin on the TRUE unemployment rate
LOL !!!


This isn't spin. This is basically the source of where the emails came from that were up on Wiki. No evidence has been posted of actual Russian hacking except for one attempt on one email.

This a clear and pure effort to ruin the electorial vote without any proof or evidence. 

It is incredible how both Fox and CNN are once again trying to change the election.  The liberals are now so desperate they are trying to create such a furor that the no one will get a majority and the president won't even be elected by the people. Clinton won't get it. And if they put in someone who is not elected really - there will be anarchy in the streets.

We suffered through countless polls generated by the mainstream that were totally non-representative of how people felt.  Then we endured people hired by a billionaire working with Mexico hiring people to demonstrate and chant "not our president".

There are indeed some powerful people, and many of them part of the huge corrupted infrastructure in place that has been selling pay for play to foreign countries for years.

I do not have a personal spin nor do I have anything to gain or lose by this election. I am Independant wish we had had better candidates.

Yet we cannot let huge press based on "rumors" that are not even substantiated control peoples minds and also generate fake news. 

As I stated and know, the FBI, CIA, and NSA have an obligation to keep things secret and not available to anyone without a need to know for national security - not the fodder of another attempt to invalidate the election.

If they knew about these attempts to hack - and let's face it - we have been at cyberwar for years - why not act sooner.  Wherever the emails came from and it highly unlikely it was Russia, what about the content. That has been forgotten. They clearly show criminal activity at the highest levels that anyone else not in the system would go to jail for.

Can you imagine an agent working for FBI or CIA found involved with foreign government taking money and building an empire greater than 100 million dollars while working in a capacity and running an organization which fronted all these transactions?

The Democratic party continues to try and divide America as well as an outgoing president who did no good in 8 years and lied to the people on many occassions.  This is reality. The real issues - that are crucial to our survival as an economic and military power in the world are at stake here. This is no Jerry Springer drama we can watch and eat popcorn and find amusing.

America is in danger and we need a strong leader as well new courses of action to build our economy and become great once more.

one more thing: The true unemployment rate is up in the 30%s which is greater than the worst year of the Great Depression.  Huge numbers have left the work force and are not even counted and our current numbers are based on that. This method of putting out positive numbers when actually huge numbers of people are losing their jobs and are in real trouble, is worse than ever. 

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

This is not the first walk in the park for Senator Harry Reid and baseless accusations.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/sen-harry-reids-baseless-domestic-terror-accusations/2014/04/21/9ee485fa-c952-11e3-93eb-6c0037dde2ad_story.html?utm_term=.72a7fea6e721

http://www.news965.com/news/news/local/harry-reid-no-regrets-over-unfounded-mitt-romney-a/nkjyM/

And this is so typical of mainstream to take this kind of thing and run with it days before the electoral college votes to try ONCE AGAIN to control the election.

No doubt, these are Ninja type attacks holding American in suspense with "this investigation will take weeks" when we don't have weeks can do a lot of damage.

We Avian Flu Talk people should really go back our roots of questioning conspiracy theories (Tin Hats) with no proof.

Google does not equal truth nor does Youtube - both which are heavily controlled. One does have to go outside of America in terms of data and information to get the real news in many instances. It has been that way for years. When I stopped using Google as my main search engine, I began find things other people weren't finding. That includes Bing and other tracker machines that log everything you do. Never in history has information been so controlled and often more falsely reported than in the present day mainstream media which is rapidly losing total credibility to growing number of people who want "the real news".

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