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I wish Trump supporters would stop whining about Democrats whiningLOL

the Democrats are gonna whine till the next election
just like Republicans did

get over it'
time to move onLOL
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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/06/07/dershowitz-comeys-statement-fails-to-deliver-smoking-gun-democrats-craved.html

Former FBI Director James Comey's written statement, which was released in advance of his Thursday testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee, does not provide evidence that President Trump committed obstruction of justice or any other crime. Indeed it strongly suggests that even under the broadest reasonable definition of obstruction, no such crime was committed.

comment: Expect whining as the highest octaves. Expect moves to impeach the president based on vapor and no proof. The irony is that everyone with common sense and intelligence knew that President Trump never colluded with Russia or was under serious investigation for any crime or obstruction of such.

It was all BS to generate viewership for a media gone nuts since the primaries started and little improved until recently.

You might compare this to a husband who has cheated on his wife standing with tears in his eyes and pleading "You don't love me anymore" and his wife replying "No I don't you heartless bastard and you would do it again."

Yes, they will do it again. Over and over in protests and an uninformed and media controlled group who know little behind what they are told and follow like sheep. And there will be some of us who pace back and forth in front of the masses and look forward to the goals of improving America and make us great again as to all the pure BS crap that continues to go out "It just doesn't matter".

The greatest enemies of America are those who continue to try and create strife and division so that somehow the Democrats after years of disaster and get back in power. It's not about truth, justice and the American way (Superman) but petty whining by special interest groups because they are about to lose racist unfair huge amounts of money they have been demanding for decades. It party is over.

No longer will we find whether are not transsexuals have bathrooms in churches as top item on our rights agenda. No longer will taking care of illegals from outside the U.S. will be pandered for illegal votes to put in a criminal guilty of treason.

It's time to move on.

Medclinician

to the tune of - "all the BS is not helping anyone anywhere to get jobs, fix our economy, "provide the common defense" or anything to improve our nation. The rest - "it just doesn't matter". We need to focus on what does matter - and unite and work to end division based on race, religion, or party to get back to where we once were as a country to be admired and respected in the world.

 


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"Not criminal" is not the same as "not morally wrong".
Absence of proof is not proof of absence.
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Originally posted by Medclinician Medclinician wrote:

The irony is that everyone with common sense and intelligence knew that President Trump never colluded with Russia or was under serious investigation for any crime or obstruction of such.


The inference being that those who disagree are...?

Thanks Med - nice to know you hold so many of us in such high regard. I just hope that one day we can learn to quit whining, and instead offer constructive criticism in much the same way the right attempted to respectfully guide President Obama during his two terms. Baby steps.





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We need to focus on what does matter

agreed
as we speak the Republicans are absolutely gutting Medicaid
Paul Ryan has made it clear that once Medicaid is gutted
he's going after Medicare next and the on to Social Security
I hope anyone who is blue or white collar FULLY understands the ramifications of this
one CRITICAL reason middle class people can retire is SS and Medicare
how anyone with a functioning brain can continue to support someone as odious as Trump
is beyond me

got a person in your family on Medicare now?
you do realize that for a very reasonable amount they have access to good health care
Ryan wants to turn that into a voucher program
you get a fixed amount and then your 85 year old grandma goes out and finds her own private insurance
and too bad if that voucher diesnt cover the full cost (which it WON'T)

wake the hell up America
what the hell is WRONG with you
you've voted to DESTROY yourselves and your very way of life


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Nomination Of Christopher Wray As FBI Chief Is Middle Finger To FBI; & He's Involved With Russia

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/8/1670097/-Nomination-Of-Christopher-Wray-As-FBI-Chief-Is-Middle-Finger-To-FBI-He-s-Involved-With-Russia

the dumpster fire that is the Trump Presidency-burning even brighter and smellier
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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

I wish Trump supporters would stop whining about Democrats whiningLOL

the Democrats are gonna whine till the next election
just like Republicans did

get over it'
time to move onLOL

Yeah, no kidding!!  Bitch & moan!  LOL

The Repugs have no reason to complain, except that their Cheeto in Chief is incompetent.  They control the House, Senate, Supreme Court, White House, most of the state houses, etc.   And still, both sides keep replaying the election, but there is no turning back. 
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what a freaking IDIOT

Trump Walks All Over Tillerson On Qatar Dispute

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-tillerson-qatar_us_593add6be4b024026878e24a?yz&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009


but just a few weeks ago

Trump: Qatari emir and I to discuss purchase of ‘beautiful military equipment’

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gulf/2017/05/21/Trump-Qatari-emir-and-I-to-discuss-purchase-of-beautiful-military-equipment-.html


and apparently Trump doesnt realize the US has a huge base in Qatar ?


and why is Trump selling military hardware to a nation he accuses of sponsoring terrorism ?

kinda makes him guilty of TREASON don't it ?


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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

what a freaking IDIOT

Trump Walks All Over Tillerson On Qatar Dispute

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-tillerson-qatar_us_593add6be4b024026878e24a?yz&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009


but just a few weeks ago

Trump: Qatari emir and I to discuss purchase of ‘beautiful military equipment’

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gulf/2017/05/21/Trump-Qatari-emir-and-I-to-discuss-purchase-of-beautiful-military-equipment-.html


and apparently Trump doesnt realize the US has a huge base in Qatar ?


and why is Trump selling military hardware to a nation he accuses of sponsoring terrorism ?

kinda makes him guilty of TREASON don't it ?


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I saw Drumpf give a press conference today, and he was moaning about Qatar providing funding for terrorist funding.  However, he was just in Saudi Arabia, which not only provides vast amounts of funding, but exports Wahabist teachings through support of Islamic madrasas (religious schools) in countries like Pakistan, thereby planting the seeds for new, young terrorists who will hate the West. 

Trump is a complete disaster of a US President.  I see nothing redeeming in his administration at all.  Mind you, I've voted for the GOP since my first election (Jerry Ford, a fine man), and I was one of the "Never Trumpers" in the party.  


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Same reason he backs Saudi Arabia - terror sponsors on a grand scale - OIL!

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Originally posted by Technophobe Technophobe wrote:

Same reason he backs Saudi Arabia - terror sponsors on a grand scale - OIL!


Plus, they gave him some serious bling & threw him a great party!!   This really disgusts me....






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He's an embarrassment.......
12 monkeys!!!!!
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poor Trump
Mueller ain't playin'
this is the second HEAVY HITTER he has brought on board

Good News. Robert Mueller prepares to kick a**. Trump's week just got a whole lot worse.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/9/1670437/-Good-News-Robert-Mueller-prepares-to-kick-a-Trump-s-week-just-got-a-whole-lot-worse

and who does Trump have "defending" him ?
his real estate lawyer from New York
NOT ONE single DC heavy hitter would sign on to defend him
NOT ONE
they knew he wouldnt listen to them
and they KNEW he would stiff them when it came time to pay his bill
guess his bad reputation has finally caught up with him

Trump better hope and pray he is lily white pure
'cause if he ain't Mueller is gonna find him out
and HE WILL BE IMPEACHED
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Originally posted by jacksdad jacksdad wrote:

Originally posted by Medclinician Medclinician wrote:

The irony is that everyone with common sense and intelligence knew that President Trump never colluded with Russia or was under serious investigation for any crime or obstruction of such.


The inference being that those who disagree are...?

Thanks Med - nice to know you hold so many of us in such high regard. I just hope that one day we can learn to quit whining, and instead offer constructive criticism in much the same way the right attempted to respectfully guide President Obama during his two terms. Baby steps.



Actually most of the posts here are intelligent and way above the garbage on mainstream media. My primary issue with social justice warriors is that they are often violent, encourage reverse discrimination and racism, and conveniently ignore the truth which does not fit into their agenda. The agendas being pushed were for minorities, Muslims, atheists, Gays, or LBGT who really are not just asking for equality but trying to take over the government.

I have seen this in California all my life as farm workers who came to help harvest crops in Silicon Valley repopulated it and became the majority. The officials elected did not represent White People, but the minorities and selectively hired them for projects, gave contractors preference and even made the universities do quotas of hiring and those admitted for school.  This was wrong.

Somewhere along the line the Democrats have become associated with almost every radical group there is and which are misnamed "the people".

My mother was a Democrat and religiously so - my father a Republican. I grew up in a war zone every election. There was a time when the Democrats represented the worker class - not any more. Not they represent the "taker" class who get benefits of some kind without every really earning them.  The Welfare system nearly destroyed America and provided a breeding ground for a non-violent revolution to demonize those of us from Europe or Native Americans - especially males.

My definition of whining is complaining without offering solutions. A common sense person would say "okay I don't like it -let's try this".

I see the last election and issues from the Democrats as saying "I want special treatment because I am -"female" - "gay" - "atheist" - "Muslim" - "an immigrant - Latino or Black". You must hire equal numbers of us - put equal numbers in commercials and movies or we will hurt you and your business.

There is a concept called "Sins of the Fathers".  None of me, mine, or ancestors were Klu-Klux-Klan,
had plantations, slaves, or were racists. I am not responsible for those who did and it is now a very long time since slavery. I wasn't a Nazi, am not descended from any and have no issues with Jewish people or Arabs. No one should get special treatment.

There is an expression I have been told and finally got - "Get over it."

If anyone is persecuting anyone disabled, white or black or any color, arrest them and put them in jail. Any religion that teaches violence or putting itself over others without their consent is wrong. The same applies to any sexual orientation or race.

The Democrats want back in power. They will use any method, any propaganda, lie, cheat, steal, make up stories, anything they need to get back Congress and put in a Democrat as president. None of this considers the good of the American people. It is all partisan. Comey's testimony, as far as I am concerned ended the case for Trump to be tried for anything.

There will not be another election for 3 some years. There will be no impeachment. It is a dumb idea and will never get support without facts and a crime. There is none.

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'Sympathies Med.  My dad was "orange" and my mother "green" meaning that Mum wanted a united Ireland and my father wanted the north of Ireland to remain part of the United Kingdom.  I know that war zone.  I even found I was not alone:......................
                                                                        http://www.metrolyrics.com/the-orange-and-the-green-lyrics-irish-rovers.html.   Needless to say, childhood was interesting!

Well, we may disagree on the current president, but, at least, all that arguing brings back childhood memories. Sigh!

I envy you on one point, our Prime Minister stays in power for 5 years, sometimes that is far too long.  Currently we have achieved the worst option of all: just before our departure from the European Union, when we desperately need negotiating power, we have a hung parliament.  I wish I could supply the rope!
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You are correct in your thinking Med. When Obama was elected and the Dems in control conservatives (Repubs) did not act like this. Well sad but Dems (Liberals) are weak whiners, I just hope people see this. 2018 is coming fast!
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Thanks, JD!  

The way that list is laid out, charts each time Trump was logged as making a false statement.  I read about 1/6 of them and removed the repeats of the same lie, counting each lie only once - irrespective of how many times he told it.  I counted 25 original lies repeated on average 3-10 times.  assuming the rest followed the same pattern, that totals 150 original lies over a 3 month period: or 50 lies PCM.  

Though that is utterly disgusting, it is not totally unexpected in a politician.  I would love to see the equivalent list for Hilary.  If anyone can find one, I will apply the same formula and give the result here.

IMO, her list would be a little bit shorter.  But, that is my opinion and I would love to see how right/wrong I am.  That was obviously an anti-trump site.  For fairness, her list would need to come from an anti-hilary site.

Any takers?
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I'm guessing it's the magnitude of the lies, and the ease with which they can be disproved that would make Trump's list all the more significant, Techno.

"...never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it" - Office of Strategic Services' assessment of Germany's leadership during WW2.




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I am absolutely bloody certain you are right, JD.  The Trump media team and the man himself strongly remind me of pre-war Germany. That is still just my opinion, even though the resemblances are amazing.  

'And, who is to say Hilary is not as bad?  Everyone, me included, tends to read the stuff which agrees with the opinion we already hold.  I would like to see the other side before my certainties are set in concrete.
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