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    Posted: July 28 2016 at 9:54pm
YOU'RE A RAGING LIBERAL ***** WHO DOESN'T ALLOW ANYONE TO SPEAK THEIR TRUTH WHEN IT DOESN'T MATCH YOUR OWN.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2016 at 10:25am
not sure what I missed since I don't check everyday but I will chime in and say I like JacksDad.  He's been on this board for along time and I've never known him to cause any issues.

We have alot of liberals on this board, I'm not one of them but I recognize their right to think they way they want to. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2016 at 2:00pm
I've never met Jacksdad, but I'd kill for him if it came to that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2016 at 2:22pm
Can someone just delete these meaningless threads??
NOW is the Season to Know

that Everything you Do

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2016 at 4:09am
Originally posted by Crabby Crabby wrote:

YOU'RE A RAGING LIBERAL ***** WHO DOESN'T ALLOW ANYONE TO SPEAK THEIR TRUTH WHEN IT DOESN'T MATCH YOUR OWN.


If you take the time to look back through my posts, one thing I don't do is engage in discussions about politics much (if at all) these days. In the past I'll admit I've been part of some pretty heated discussions on the subject, but I take my responsibility as a member of the moderator group very seriously and now try to leave my political affiliations at the door when I log on to AFT. It's not part of my job to hound others for their beliefs, but hate speech is quite another thing.

While I fully support the other mods who have been taking down your posts, you need to understand that most of them are not my doing. I joined the drama-fest you're trying to create a little late, and you were already being discussed in the moderator group meeting room. You'd managed to offend quite a few people with your bigotry at that point, and some of your more vitriolic posts had already been hidden. Having read them and seen how they all eventually turned into irrational racist rants, I see no reason why they shouldn't stay hidden.

For the time being though, I have no problem with this thread staying up. I can deal with a little name calling.








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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2016 at 5:53am
You should not have to JD.  Some of us really like youHeart
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2016 at 6:32am
This is a survivalist forum, not a political one. I for one am glad of that. Politics come and go. Survivalism is permanent. The advice given here is life saving in a shft situation. By then politics is dead.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2016 at 8:46am
It has been a long time since we have seen this kind of thing on AFT. It is clearly disruptive and a personal meaningless attack on an individual. Our family, including Jacksdad has been here and posting for years. We face serious issues in the world today. Zika is loose in Florida and while we do enjoy sparring here sometimes and discussing many topics, we do so with mutual respect and courtesy.

Is there an attempt here to be disruptive and hurt the site? I think there is and it goes beyond any opinion on any topic. It is trolling. Have we once again journeyed into areas and are posting information that some groups may not like? Very possible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll


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Thank you, guys. Your support is very much appreciated.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2016 at 1:12pm
I live outside 100 to 150 nights a year. Preparation is better then ignorance. Let's see how political haters do when shtf happens. Zero politics then. Only sites such as this will matter. And I live in the uk. Be prepared is better. Wait and see. Learn from people such as jacksdad. I don't comment often, but survivalism might just save ur life. And sooner then u think.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2016 at 4:10pm
Jacksdad should not have to take all the heat, I have deleted quite a few of the posts myself.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2016 at 8:29pm
Originally posted by Medclinician Medclinician wrote:

It has been a long time since we have seen this kind of thing on AFT. It is clearly disruptive and a personal meaningless attack on an individual. Our family, including Jacksdad has been here and posting for years.


Sorry guy, but the attacks have come at me in the form of censorship.

There is supposed to be this little thing called "freedom of speech". I'm not hating on anyone, but stating my personal opinions about racism in general. It works both ways.

I have also been here years and am not a troll. I'm an honest individual who has some strong opinions about what is happening to our country and the protected few seem to get away with stirring up chaos and all anyone wants to do is sweep this crap under the rug.

Many of my posts were deleted without good reason other than they didn't agree with what I had to say.

By the way, Jacksdad was the only one up when my last post was taken down. Who else is there to blame?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2016 at 8:56pm
Not sure which one you're talking about, but I didn't say that I hadn't taken any of your posts down - just letting you know you're offending more people than you seem to realize. It's not an exclusive club by any means.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2016 at 9:16pm
Then let them come at me and explain why we can't discuss these issues below that I've raised or why they personally feel offended.

Segregation by blacks in their exclusive black only groups of which are lots of them.
Knock out games (black on white crime)
Flash mobs of stores (black youths)
Rioting/looting/burning (Black youths in St. Louis and Baltimore.)
Killing of police (black hate crimes against police of all races)

I've openly admitted that I've become more racist as I've aged. I don't hate all black people any more than I like all white people. I don't care who you are, if you do the crime, you should do the time. However, these new trends in black lawlessness are hard to ignore and the situation is not getting any better.

Does anyone in the black community here have the answers as to why this is happening or are they afraid to speak truthfully about it for fear of being labeled a racist themselves? Can they be honest with themselves? I want to know!

You can delete my posts a thousand times, but the current situation isn't going away.

The issue that I have is that important black people in this country don't seem to want to address these issues in public. Are they secretly wanting this stuff to get worse for some reason? What am I missing?

People here can hate me all they want, but I'm a law abiding citizen. My only crime is to have opinions and to voice them. I think that's a little thing called "freedom of speech".

If people on this forum feel so strongly about my posts, then I'd rather they confront the issues that I've raised rather than attack me personally or constantly delete my posts.

The single detailed explanation of all of my posts that were deleted was for using the supposed derogatory word "gals". WOW!

If the moderators have found certain posts offensive, then point out exactly how they've been offensive rather than this generalized BS that they hide behind simply because they don't agree or like what I've said.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2016 at 11:31pm
We've tried to tell you why your posts are being hidden, but you don't seem to want to listen. If this is indeed Elver, as many of the mods (myself included) believe, we went around and around with this the last time you were here, and ended up at the same impasse.
That ended with you deleting most of your own posts if memory serves. Pretty ironic, all things considered.






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2016 at 4:51am
I also hid some of your posts, Crabby.  You lump everyone of the same color together, or at least appear to.

Some "white" people behave as badly as the "black" people you single out as examples.  Most people of any color behave very well, and do none of those things.

As I attempted to point out to you: You can support the nice people or the nasty: AND YOU ARE DOING THE LATTER!!!  This makes you one of the "white" examples of bad behavior, maybe not one of the extreme ones, but bad enough!

The discussions you want to start, whereas they are legal under the US constitution, are not helpful, pleasant, balanced or fair.  The arguments they spawn help no one, "black or white".  They offend kind innocent "black" people by tarring them with the same brush as your hateful examples.  To reply in kind would only do the same thing to kind innocent "white" people.  I wish to offend neither: that is why I hide instead of argue.

Finally, such arguments do not belong here.  This is a survivalist/flu monitoring website, not a place for political discussion.   There are plenty of political forums out there who would consider your postings valid arguments.  Why not post there and stop offending my friends and family (Willowby Brat is my husband!)?

So I will continue to monitor and hide your rantings. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2016 at 9:27am
Originally posted by Crabby Crabby wrote:

Then let them come at me and explain why we can't discuss these issues below that I've raised or why they personally feel offended.

Segregation by blacks in their exclusive black only groups of which are lots of them.
Knock out games (black on white crime)
Flash mobs of stores (black youths)
Rioting/looting/burning (Black youths in St. Louis and Baltimore.)
Killing of police (black hate crimes against police of all races)

I've openly admitted that I've become more racist as I've aged. I don't hate all black people any more than I like all white people. I don't care who you are, if you do the crime, you should do the time. However, these new trends in black lawlessness are hard to ignore and the situation is not getting any better.

Does anyone in the black community here have the answers as to why this is happening or are they afraid to speak truthfully about it for fear of being labeled a racist themselves? Can they be honest with themselves? I want to know!

You can delete my posts a thousand times, but the current situation isn't going away.

The issue that I have is that important black people in this country don't seem to want to address these issues in public. Are they secretly wanting this stuff to get worse for some reason? What am I missing?

People here can hate me all they want, but I'm a law abiding citizen. My only crime is to have opinions and to voice them. I think that's a little thing called "freedom of speech".

If people on this forum feel so strongly about my posts, then I'd rather they confront the issues that I've raised rather than attack me personally or constantly delete my posts.

The single detailed explanation of all of my posts that were deleted was for using the supposed derogatory word "gals". WOW!

If the moderators have found certain posts offensive, then point out exactly how they've been offensive rather than this generalized BS that they hide behind simply because they don't agree or like what I've said.




Crabby, some of us work in law enforcement.  Be careful what you post on forums, assume you are being watched.  
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1. No one hates you (as you mentioned in your post)
2. This is not a race relations discussions board, but I am sure there are some out there if you choose to find some to discuss your issues in.
3. Freedom of speech- this forum is paid for/owned by someone, we have been requested to moderate it. When you offend and we get complaints we look into it.
4. Every moderator here has been moderating on this board a good number of years, for a long time it was just myself and the owner. All the moderators here do an excellent job! Thank you mods for all your hard work!
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Originally posted by Penham Penham wrote:

1. No one hates you (as you mentioned in your post)
2. This is not a race relations discussions board, but I am sure there are some out there if you choose to find some to discuss your issues in.
3. Freedom of speech- this forum is paid for/owned by someone, we have been requested to moderate it. When you offend and we get complaints we look into it.
4. Every moderator here has been moderating on this board a good number of years, for a long time it was just myself and the owner. All the moderators here do an excellent job! Thank you mods for all your hard work!




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2016 at 10:19pm
PENHAM, YOU'RE A HYPOCRITE!

You say that this isn't a race relations board, but you allow talk about every other subject under the sun such as global warming, the middle east, guns, gardens, EMP's, etc. Why then do you have an "off topic discussion" or the "dungeon"?

Why is it that you're singling out a topic that I didn't start, but joined in on? The original topic that started all of this was posted by Med titled "The Children of Anarchy-Racism and Hate in America".

Do you remember where Med said this? "This in no way justified what was a clear racial and violent act in the killing of five white Dallas police officers."

Do you also remember where Med said this? "We have reached a point in popular music where songs exemplify the abuse of women, violence to the innocent, and where it is cool to take an person who has done nothing wrong to anyone and kill them or hurt them badly just to score points in the 'Hood'."

In fact someone took down my post where I quoted the black rap lyrics about killing white people because they were deemed too offensive. Was it taken down because the blacks on this forum don't want this stuff exposed on the internet for what it is? Those lyrics didn't offend me. It just made me mad and demonstrates the hypocrisy of racism in America.

So, you're being pretty hypocritical to NOW say that this isn't a race relations board. Did you also miss Med's comment where he said this? "One thing you will probably never see - with all the spin and outcry about discrimination, is calling any act racism against a white person."

Did you not notice this comment either? "Racism can be against any race including white people and often is."




You only want to silence posts when they hit a nerve, apparently a big one from the looks of it. Why so?

Just tonight I heard on our 6:00PM news that the black and white ministers in our community met with law enforcement to discuss "unity". Why do you think they want to talk about unity all of a sudden? It's because crap is happing in this country. Race relations are at an all time low considering the supposed progress that's been made over the past 40 or 50 years, so why now all of a sudden? Or has something been simmering below the surface in the black community all along and it is just now boiling up again?

There's a heck of a lot of survival talk on this forum. Perhaps everyone here ought to think about the break down in our society that is starting to happen.

Never before in my life time have I ever seen so much chaos that's occurring right now in this country and it is VERY racially motivated. You can stick your heads in the sand all you want or silence people for wanting to talk about it, but people had better wake up to what's going on around them. My fear is that this is just the tip of the iceberg of what lies ahead.

So, really, when it comes down to it you discriminate against some people here, but not others. I just happen to be a little more honest about my feelings here than other people because they're afraid to say what I've already said. Obviously I've struck a nerve and not everyone agrees with what I have to say, but I'll bet you there are white people on this forum who do, but they're too chicken ***** to come right out and say it for fear of being banned from this forum or have their posts deleted like mine have. Med just has a little more finesse than I do.
I'm to the point where I don't give a crap. I'm so absolutely disgusted with the bad black behavior that is going on and the fact that there are few black people standing up against this criminal behavior.

And the recent incendiary black behavior is EXACTLY why I'm becoming racist myself. I was never raised that way, but I just can't help the way I've been feeling lately. Rather than constantly silencing me you should try and understand me.
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