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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-18/declassified-sino-russian-masterplan-end-us-dominance-middle-east

DJ-Good, long, read. Qatar having talks both with Iran and KSA/UAE. Iran and Turkey further cooperating. A.o. against the Kurds for now in the Iran/Turkey border area and north Iraq. (DJ-no doubt Syria will be next-even with the US trying to control (with IS) the Kurds.

Russia and China, Turkey going for oil deals with Iran outside the US$. Sometimes Iran-oil will be "Iraqi" for international trade reasons.

DJ-Iran does not want Russian, Chinese, or any other (major) foreign presence in Iran. Most likely advisors, trainers and security for Gazprom, China, India oil facilities are welcome.

China and Russia will not accept any plan for regime change in Iran. But also want to keep Iran under control in Syria (and Iraq). DJ-Iran, Pakistan may become the major players in Afghanistan.

The US is losing ground in the Middle East high speed !
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-16/did-b-team-overplay-its-hand-iran, https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-17/irans-uk-ambassador-unfortunately-we-are-heading-towards-confrontation-us
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/06/iran-to-exceed-some-nuclear-deal-limits-eu-under-pressure-to-fulfill-its-commitments.html

DJ-The basic conflict is on "who runs the planet" the US/west or Russia-China.

For the US it is a major problem that 5 billion of the 7,2 billion people live in EurAsia. More and more trade and transport is over land (from railways to pipelines). The US has a major strenght at sea and in the air-but for the (trade)wars that is not very helpfull.

Meanwhile both Israel and Saudi Arabia/Gulf States have a "double signal". They want the US to move towards (almost) conflict with Iran (and with that China, India). On the other hand both are doing major deals with Russia and China.

DJ-I think the US (and UK under boris johnson) may think twice before getting into major conflict. History tells that moving into such a conflict is an effective way of losing an empire. (The UK lost India, the Dutch Indonesia, France, Belgium their colonies after W.W.2).

As a bussinessman trump should know that talks-not wars-are the way to deal with conflicts.
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From http://thesaker.is/why-trump-now-wants-talks-with-iran/:

An American source said a series of studies hit President Trump’s desk and caused panic in Washington. These showed that in the case of the Strait of Hormuz being shut down, whatever the reason, Iran has the power to hammer the world financial system, by causing global trade in derivatives to be blown apart.

The Bank for International Settlements said last year that the “notional amount outstanding for derivatives contracts” was $542 trillion, although the gross market value was put at just $12.7 trillion. Others suggest it is $1.2 quadrillion or more.

Tehran has not voiced this “nuclear option” openly. And yet General Qasem Soleimani, head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps’ Quds Force and a Pentagon bête noire, evoked it in internal Iranian discussions. The information was duly circulated to France, Britain and Germany, the EU-3 members of the Iran nuclear deal (or Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action), also causing a panic.

Oil derivative specialists know well that if the flow of energy in the Gulf is blocked it could lead to the price of oil reaching $200 a barrel, or much higher over an extended period. Crashing the derivatives market would create an unprecedented global depression. Trump’s former Goldman Sachs Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin should know as much.

And Trump himself seems to have given the game away. He’s now on the record essentially saying that Iran has no strategic value to the US. According to the American source: “He really wants a face-saving way to get out of the problem his advisers Bolton and Pompeo got him into. Washington now needs a face-saving way out. Iran is not asking for meetings. The US is.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-14/putin-xi-take-swipe-trump-during-russia-meeting-boast-about-new-era-cooperation, https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/06/14/598536/Iran-Russia-putin-Rouhani-energy-investment-sanctions

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/iran-navy-surrounding-bombed-oil-ship-refusing-to-allow-it-to-be-moved-or-inspected (DJ The ships are close to Iran-waters, maybe accept an Iran-role in dealing with it. Who is the US to claim those ships ?)
Israeli claims on Iran weapons https://www.debka.com/__trashed-4/

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-13/false-flag-intro-world-war-3-tanker-attacks:
Most wars in the past 100 years have been started with a ‘spark’ which might be assassination, attacking of a ship, or bombing of Pearl Harbor.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-14/army-major-ret-why-americas-no-fault-generals-wont-save-us-next-war

DJ-Just like the US-Saudi-Israel coalition can escalate "pressure on Iran" "for a new nuclear deal" Iran (with Russia, China) can "escalate pressure" on the US (and EU),

Long term energy deals-as far as I (DJ) know can go with fixed prices not in US$. Russia can sign a contract with China to deliver a given amount of oil/gas at a certain price for a certain period. Iran can do the same with India, China, Turkey. Blocking the Hermuz strait would then do most damage to those not under long term energy contracts.

Another major factor for now is what will Pakistan, India, Turkey (etc) do ? Move even closer to Russia-Iran-China ? (Like Turkey working with Iran against the Kurds in Iraq, working with Russia on a new S500. DJ-Turkey still in NATO is getting a problem. What when Turkey wants NATO art5 help against Kurds or Israel for the Cyprus gas/oil fields-conflict.)

Afghanistan, Iraq, (just like Iran, Syria, Turkey) could join the SCO or another Russia/China project. The US would get in a very "hard" position keeping forces there. The EU (without the UK with boris johnson as a new problem) needs Russian/Iran energy and China market.

The conflict is not over Iran but over who is in charge of the globe, the US needs another way of dealing with this conflict. Or lose it.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/06/iran-decided-to-put-maximum-pressure-on-trump-here-is-how-it-will-do-it.html (DJ-Again-I do not think Iran was behind the recent attacks for two reasons:
1. They need their own oil to be able to get exported, that is difficult enough. Irans economy is in very bad shape. 2. Iran needs allies. Iraq, Qatar also need free trade routes-but also when India, China wants to buy oil it is not very wise to damage transport routes.

KSA, Israel may be feeling backed by the US/CIA to do thes false flag attacks-their economy may have room for it. Another possible "force" could be Yemen-Houthi's or Kurds (blaming KSA/UAE for supporting IS).

Iran may have been behind some terrorist attacks (like killing people behind terrorist attacks in Iran getting asylum in the EU), may have the means-can be interested in pushing up oil prices-but blocking oil export is a last means.)
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https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/06/14/598490/Iran-Rouhani-world-stability-trump-SCO-Summit DJ-Yesterday Gulf of Oman attacks, today Iran at SCO meeting....no coincident.

https://www.rt.com/news/461873-iran-attack-oman-blame-war/ Cui bono ? Who does have interest in the Oman attacks ?

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-14/dire-straits-oman
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/video-proof-iran-caught-red-handed-removing-mis-fired-mine-from-ship-hull-in-gulf-of-oman (DJ-The comments may be more intelligent than HT-this time.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_G20_Osaka_summit 28-29 june will see the G20 in Osaka-Japan. The SCO (a.o.) is getting much more important than the "old" G20.

http://thesaker.is/why-trump-now-wants-talks-with-iran/
Iran has the global economy "under control" by controling the Strait of Hormuz.
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https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201906141075859308-iran-urges-us-allies-stop-false-flag-ops/, https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377:
REMEMBER BELGRADE

Attacking a Japanese-owned ship tanker while Japan's PM is in Tehran talking to Ayatollah Khamenei trying to defuse US warmongering...

EQUALS

...Bombing the Chinese embassy in Belgrade by NATO after Beijing forcefully protested against US bombing of Serbia.

and

Meanwhile, in a civilized Eurasia environment...

CRUCIAL image - right before the start of the SCO summit in Bishkek. The bilateral went very well. Xi sounded very conciliatory - perhaps a notch above Modi. There's a serious effort by Putin and Xi to make Modi see the light re: deeper cooperation inside SCO and BRICS.

DJ-India bying Russian weapons, Iran oil (maybe not in the open) sitting down at the https://thediplomat.com/2019/06/the-shanghai-cooperation-organization-summit-kicks-off-in-bishkek/ The false flag attacks in the Gulf of Oman-just before the SCO meeting may be meant to send a (US) message to that SCO.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation: Iran has observer status in the organisation, and applied for full membership on 24 March 2008.[22] However, because it was under sanctions levied by the United Nations at the time, it was blocked from admission as a new member. The SCO stated that any country under UN sanctions could not be admitted.[23] After the UN sanctions were lifted, Chinese president Xi Jinping announced its support for Iran's full membership in SCO during a state visit to Iran in January 2016.[24]

Another note;And BBG's Javier Blas pointed out that should Iran be found responsible, it would be a strange turn of events since the Front Altair is owned by John Frederiksen, the owner of the Frontline Tanker company, who moved oil for Iran during the "tanker war" with Iraq.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-13/2-tankers-damaged-after-suspected-torpedo-attack-near-strait-hormuz-oil-soars

https://www.rt.com/news/461841-zarif-oman-tanker-iran-attack/ and
https://www.rt.com/news/461845-kokuka-owner-rejects-mine-attack/; The Japanese company that owns the ‘Kokuka Courageous’ tanker has said its crew spotted “flying objects” before the attack in the Gulf of Oman, contradicting US claims that the vessel was damaged by a naval mine.
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https://www.rt.com/news/461821-us-destroyer-tankers-incident/, https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-13/us-claims-smoking-gun-video-evidence-irans-navy-handling-mine-tanker-hull

DJ-I do not believe Iran was behind the attack on the tankers in the Gulf of Oman. When the US is thinking of further escalation they need more support than just Israel and a few Gulf States.

Even https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13300&start=70 most members do not agree-for now-with the US claims.

https://www.rt.com/news/461819-clark-serbia-kosovo-russia/ The US is putting extra military in Poland, Balkan (SE Europe)-confronting Russia. The US seems to be unable to have decent talks with China, Iran...

https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/seven-reasons-to-be-highly-skeptical-of-the-gulf-of-oman-incident-48958389f53e?fbclid=IwAR3k3IdyDZDqRDXlvgP1zW3B9UN7h5NaIiXJQNWpgca4UiCZDs8UC8p2s5I

(DJ-It is very unlikely that Iran would attack a ship with a-partly-Russian crew during the visit of Japan PM Abe to Iran. Iran has a few-very highly monitored-submarines. Any sea-mines would have been detected by other shipping. For now it looks like some sort of false flag by the US-Saudi-Israel coalition.)

https://southfront.org/cruise-missile-strike-on-saudi-airport-marks-start-of-new-round-of-escalation-in-middle-east/ DJ-If Yemen forces were behind an attack most likely they would destroy the port, refineries etc.
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DJ-There is a major crisis unfolding-updates at;

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/two-oil-tanker-ships-attacked-and-reported-sunk-in-gulf-of-oman

https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13300&sid=a03814ade8345d2998deaa08c6213d66&start=50

DJ-Attacks on oil transport in the Gulf of Oman endangers western oil supply.

https://www.rt.com/news/461758-zarif-tanker-attack-suspicious/
DJ-The attacks coincided with PM Abe of Japan visiting Iran. https://www.debka.com/khamenei-slaps-america-in-the-face-by-refusing-to-receive-trump-message-from-abe/

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-13/false-flag-iran-has-little-gain-oman-tanker-attacks

https://www.rt.com/news/461749-assange-uk-extradition-us/
DJ-Sending Assange to the US can start a "cyber action" and mass release of "secrets".

https://sputniknews.com/interviews/201906131075835948-pakistan-imran-khan-russia-india-iran-exclusive/ (DJ-Pakistan moving further away from US/nato) https://www.rt.com/news/461770-idlib-russia-airstrike-turkey-terrorists/ Turkey and Russia cooperating in NW Syria against western backed terrorists.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/06/todays-attacks-on-ships-in-the-gulf-of-oman-are-not-in-irans-interest.html#more update

DJ-For now oil/energy prices will be effected. Further escalation seems very likely (?). Will the US blame Iran openly ? Will the US or KSA/UAE attack Iranian positions in the Gulf ?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/06/uk-maritime-group-warns-incident-gulf-oman-190613054602630.html Al Jazeera is Qatar-based. Qatar has both-a very major US air base AND Iranian, Turkish soldiers protecting Qatar from KSA. Qatar and Iran exploit some oil/gas fields jointly.

(Just like HT maybe not the best source, still http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2896.htm:
A gravely worded new Ministry of Defense (MoD) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that President Putin has just placed all Russian military forces on “Full Combat Alert”—a war stance last ordered in June-2014 when the Russian peoples in Ukraine came under direct threat—and which comes six months after Putin’s ominous warning that “the United States is raising the risk of nuclear war”—with the reason for this occurring being the unprovoked torpedoing of two oil tankers by an “unspecified state actor” while they were sailing in international waters off the coast of Iran in the Gulf of Oman.
(According to some comments one of the attacked ships had a Russian crew.)
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DJ-With the re-opening of the Iraq-Syria-Lebanon oil pipeline (somehow most likely also to be used by Iran) the "West" has lost all points for their confrontation policy in the Middle East. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-09/most-crucial-pipeline-middle-east

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/iran-sends-new-warning-to-u-s-whoever-starts-a-war-with-us-will-not-be-the-one-who-finishes-it and https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-news-israel-to-be-attacked-tomorrow-with-chemical-weapons
DJ-Still the US/west "elite" may push for war.

https://southfront.org/us-creates-conditions-at-refugee-camps-enabling-terrorists-return-to-syria/, https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/06/syria-western-media-glorification-of-syrian-jihadist-is-a-sign-that-the-war-is-far-from-its-end.html DJ-The "west" keeps supporting IS, alquaida etc. against Assad (Russia-Iran-China) (with Turkey-again-supporting jihadi's in NW Syria.)

https://www.rt.com/news/461557-us-tariff-bullying-tactics/, https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-10/pepe-escobar-unipolar-moment-over

DJ-The US no longer being the "superpower in control of the world" is a major change with far reaching consequences-both for the US and the world.
The US answer of more military overstretching is "unwise" and will damage the US. Diplomacy, good trade deals (the US could be a "better partner"for China than Russia) could make the US stronger.

Also the position the US did choose-under Trump-almost identifying with Israel-leaves little room for "deals" (and is not in the best interest of Israel either-on the longer term Israel will do deals with Russia, China and some Arab states (Jordan, KSA, Egypt)

Eventhough Russia and China will try to avoid a major open conflict with the US the present "situation" can bring conflict in almost every part of the globe.
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DJ-Using an (unclear) report https://www.debka.com/two-syrian-rockets-or-shells-fired-at-israeli-hermon-positions/ of two "explosions" in the occupied Golan Heights (under international law NOT part of Israel) are an excuse for Israel for (large scale) attacks on Syria.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-02/10-pro-assad-forces-killed-major-overnight-israeli-airstrikes, https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/t4-base-in-syria-under-attack-now, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrias-t-4-airbase-comes-under-attack-likely-israeli-strikes/

In the mean time;https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-houthi-forces-unleash-big-missile-attack-on-saudi-coalition-bases-in-southern-yemen/, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-houthi-forces-fire-ballistic-missiles-into-southern-saudi-arabia/

DJ-Both "fronts" may be related with https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/massive-syrian-army-convoy-heads-to-northeast-latakia-for-kabani-offensive/ the operations to deal with (western backed) jihadi terrorists in NW Syria.

(No doubt that both Israel-military integrated-though not member-in nato and KSA are operating with full US/UK/Nato support).

Maybe "large scale western military action in Syria and Yemen" may be seen as putting pressure on Russia-Iran-China. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-02/escobar-warns-its-far-quiet-us-vs-russia-china-front

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/06/cnn-sees-saudi-success-in-disunited-gulf-summits-that-made-no-new-statements.html:
Said differently - the two summits Anderson is so exited about were nothingburgers. Their statements were similar to the once made before and the GCC and the Arab League still lack the capacity to act together on any serious issue. That they call on outsiders to tackle Iran says all one needs to know. The OIC summit was outright hostile to the U.S. and Saudi plans for the destruction of Palestine.

As long as U.S. media deliver such bad 'analysis' of foreign state positions, the policies derived from it will continue to be unrealistic.

https://eand.co/half-of-americans-are-effectively-poor-now-what-the-c944c518db6a?fbclid=IwAR3EASwXc3G3F-slfzRknxEQrmYnMS9G5bBeGcuJ88az7-c1dKEJoZyrym8

DJ-Failing politics for decades-supporting a rich elite-make the US more and more a third world country. (With 25% of all global prisoners in US prisons, the US in the same list as China, Iran, KSA for death penalties, life expectency and healthcare better in Cuba than in the US.)
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In reaction to "?" (The US-Israel most likely blame Iran-they also consider Golan Heights as Israeli-the rest of the world has a different view) https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/update-suspected-israeli-attack-kills-3-syrian-army-soldiers/ and https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/06/02/597530/Syria-Israel-missile-attack

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-01/former-obama-officials-helping-iran-outmaneuver-united-states

DJ-I am not anti Israel or anti-US. Most people in the US are strongly against another war-even more will be against a global war. You are not helping Israel by agreeing on everything it does. Israel would be better of with good relations with its neighbours-the US is not helping in that.
https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/05/30/597274/Jordan-Palestine-Israel-Jared-Kushner

The US is helping global terrorism by helping Saudi Arabia https://www.voltairenet.org/article206544.html :
The Saudi official television channel, Al-Arabiya, announced on February 1, 2014, that Daesh was led by Prince Abdul Rahman al-Faisal (brother of the foreign minister at the time).


Following the President Donald Trump’s speech in Riyad, Saudi Arabia withdrew its support for the jihadist organizations. However, we saw with the "Movement for Faith" case, called by the British propaganda, "Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army", that Saudi Arabia was leading the Rohingya terrorism in Myanmar in 2017. Since, a lot of unverified informations indicate a Riyadh’s takeover of the jihadists.

https://www.voltairenet.org/article206359.html Deash and alqueida find new warzones (strong links with CIA-main targets are countries that do deals with Russia and China.)

(https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-31/jaw-dropping-speech-malaysian-pm-says-no-evidence-russia-shot-down-mh17 DJ-Saudi Arabia is supposed to have played a role in that as well by coordinating-with others-from an AWACS-plane south of Ukraine.)

As I wrote yesterday-the US is pushing "the world" towards Russia-Iran-China. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-01/trump-declares-trade-war-india-imposes-new-tariffs
https://sputniknews.com/asia/201906021075546083-china-defence-minister-vows-fight-usa-trade-taiwan/
https://sputniknews.com/us/201906021075544264-mexican-president-tightening-migration/

DJ-The trend in US foreign policy has been-for several years-to loose alies-it seems to be speeding up, going faster. From Pakistan, Turkey, Phillipines under Obama Trump is managing to worsen relations with "the rest of the world" by tarifs, sanctions, insults and threats. Trump has made US politics become destructive for the US.

(No need for NK, Iran, Russia, China or many others to start a war against the US-the US is a DIY self destructive nation with mass shootings on a daily bases and a major drug/health crisis.)

https://www.globalresearch.ca/support-mh17-truth-osce-monitors-identify-shrapnel-like-holes-indicating-shelling-no-firm-evidence-of-a-missile-attack/5394324 (DJ-Again Russia is not a saint-but the investigation in this mass murder has become a political "blame Russia-game" not interested in what is most likely (Ukraine benifited of the MH17 downing) but in "blaming Putin". If such a disaster would happen now the "west" would blame Iran ?)
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https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-israel-claims-two-missiles-fired-from-damascus-area-have-struck-northern-israel and https://www.debka.com/two-syrian-rockets-or-shells-fired-at-israeli-hermon-positions/

DJ-Israel will attack Iranian targets in Syria. The targets in "Israel" are in the Golan heights-international seen as occupied by Israel part of Syria.
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Albert, there was an economic war between the US and Japan prior to Pearl Harbour. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan%E2%80%93United_States_relations#1937%E2%80%931941

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/china-uses-war-words-tells-usa-don-t-say-we-didn-t-warn-you, https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/05/article/far-from-quiet-on-the-us-vs-russia-china-front/ and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_Economic_Union

What the US/Trump does not seem to understand that the US was and is the major push factor for China's rise to superpower. First 20/30 years ago by "outsourcing cheap labour" to China now by putting sanctions on even long term US allies that do deals with Russia, Iran, China.

What the US should be doing is have the right people flying all over the planet making good offers to do deals with the US. Now you see idiots like pompeo and bolton making threats and insults.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/460674-freedom-gas-fracking-propaganda/, https://www.rt.com/news/460735-us-bullying-36-countries/.

"We" in the EU are almost forced to buy US LNG (or Arab oil/gas) face sanctions for buying oil/gas from Russia or Iran. "We"in the EU are forced-as NATO members to buy F35-JSF, US weapons etc. "We" in the EU see a US breaking international treaties from climate, Iran-deal to trade. "We" have to put sanctions on Russia, Iran, deal with refugees due to US wars....when you look at EU politics more and more groups want "other relations" with the US (and better relations with Asia-our "next door mega-market").

The main breaking point could be (after the brexit) between the EU and the US-not between the US and China.
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World War 3 appears to be underway, and in a way nobody expected. It's an economic war. China is control of 90% of rare minerals, of which we need for manufacturing and drugs, and they are on brink of cutting us off. This economic war of tariffs (and more) is going to have a very bad outcome.
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DJ-several frontlines;

Middle East/SW Asia;https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/covert-intel-there-has-been-an-incident-in-the-gulf-of-oman (DJ-No confirmation so far elsewere-may be false flag/false claim/fake news-on the other hand it is likely that there will be "incidents" between US and Iran in the "Iran region". "Israel/KSA/Gulf States may play a role in creating incidents-acting like or US or Iran putting the other(s) on the wrong foot.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-russian-air-force-unleashes-heavy-attack-across-southwestern-idlib/, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iraqi-forces-reinforce-syrian-border-city-amid-iranian-us-turmoil/
DJ-Allthough not very likely that Turkey goes back to the US side there is a crisis in Syria over Idlib between Russia and Turkey. Turkey may be willing to give up support for Turkish backed "groups" in Idlib when Russia is willing to support Turkey (and Iran) against the Kurds ???

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/05/31/597352/Iraq-Iran-Mecca-Meeting-PGCC-Saudi-king-salman-Salih Mecca-meeting with KSA trying to get support for war with Iran.

https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13284&start=40

https://sputniknews.com/military/201905311075494623-usa-turkey-completion-pentagon/ DJ-Turkey in NATO why ???

East Asia; https://www.rt.com/news/460689-malaysia-mh17-no-evidence/ related to https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/05/china-competition-loom-key-defence-gathering-190530051325632.html (DJ-China-US battle over Asia-Singapore meeting )
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-30/new-satellite-imagery-reveals-chinese-navy-simulating-invasion-taiwan DJ-This "news" is part of a propaganda war-still China could-as a last resort-start a war with Taiwan when the US keeps pushing for war. (Most likely that China-Taiwan war would be part of a much wider conflict.)
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DJ-War is-always-a criminal act. A planned activity for the benefit of a few at the cost of many. https://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html#c1
The 1935 book by Major General Butler.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-27/war-and-young-americans

DJ-https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-28/iran-iraq-axis-sanity If there is to be a war against Iran a very likely scenario will be an invasion via Iraq.

Turkey-still a NATO-member- could be the key factor. https://southfront.org/turkey-invades-northern-iraq-in-counter-terrorism-operation-against-pkk/, https://southfront.org/military-situation-in-syria-on-may-28-2019-map-update/ and https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/turkish-backed-rebels-execute-special-needs-child-in-northwest-aleppo/

DJ-Turkey-for now-with the help of Iran is fighting the Kurds in Iraq. Turkey is also sending reinforcements to its rebels in Idlib NW Syria. For now-Turkey is against US help for the Kurds-for as long as that may last. Also Turkey and Israel-for now-are almost enemies. Turkey and Saudi Arabia are in conflict over who is leading the Islamic world.

When you look over a longer period; Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Israel were working together with "the west" and other Gulf States, Pakistan for regime change in Syria. The present break up may be just a smoke screen.

A possible scenario could be Turkey making Iran getting in (further) conflict with the Kurds in Syria, Iraq. Then Turkey blaming Iran for agression against Turkey (Kurds in Turkey ?) and (trying to) get NATO behind a Saudi/Gulf States, US/Turkey plan for war against Iran.

Pakistan was a long term ally of Saudi Arabia. The present crisis with the US, good relations with China, maybe could be "turned over" (blocking the New Silk Road for China-that is what the US made crisis over Iran is all about. Russia has-for now- also good relations with Iran wich gives Russia-via the Caspian Sea-better connections with the Indian Ocean. For now Russia, China, Iran, Pakistan could get control over Afghanistan, Lebanon-a strategic nightmare for "the west/US").

A war with Iran will become a bloodbath with millions of people killed. The goal of this "investment" would be western control over energy, Asia.
The idea would be to let the fighting be done by Pakistan, Turkey, (Egypt just like Pakistan hired by KSA/Gulf States).

The regime change goals for Syria would also be welcomed. (Of course claiming that Saudi Arabia/Gulf States can bring democracy to Iran is insane-but most likely what the western "press" will spread.)

How likely is this scenario ?
-The US can not accept being pushed to second position by Russia and China. The US is willing to go for all out conflict-the alternative is the US as a "third world country" (like Brazil).
-Turkey and Pakistan changing sides now would bring them in conflict with Russia and China. (For the US that is not a problem, very welcome). Both countries have to make up their mind on who's side they are on. They can be manipulated into conflict(s) by not choosing sides.
-Israel has good relations with the US, Russia and China. An open war with Iran will be the end of Israel. So via covert action (supporting the Kurds, jihadi's, working with KSA in intel etc) Israel can be a main player trying to benefit of a major conflict (DJ-It may even claim to be "neutral" in a war with Iran while in secret via cyberattacks, proxies etc be the main enemy of Iran. For the propaganda "peacefull Israel trying to limit the conflicts" would do well.)
-Russia and China are well aware that the SW Asia "underbelly" is the main front for the New Silk Road. Loosing the battle there would-at best-limit their plans-but most likely open the doors for regime change in Moscow and Bejing-the west/US trying to break up Russia and China into "small states like Yugoslavia was broken up".
-The US is unable to go into open conflict with the many enemies they created; from Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela to Libya, Syria, Yemen, North Korea, Russia, China etc. The "only superpower" did get overstretched and faces collapse. (Like a supernova trying to dominate before exploding).

DJ-There are other scenario's possible. The Pakistan-India conflict had a CIA role (by the CIA funding Pakistan Sunni terrorism against India). Breaking up Pakistan would also disrupt the New Silk Road and destabilize Iran (trying to get Baluchistan, Kurdistan seperate from Iran)

Another scenario is that the US is unable to make much difference against Russia-China plans. It is already to late with the EU, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan out of much US control. Any US action only may slow down the proces and change the balance a little (the EU as a more serios equal partner with Russia and China instead of "a toy to play with-divided EU".)

At "best"-there may be an end of conflicts in Africa/Asia but the price may be Russia/China becoming the major global players. At worst we may face "the last global war".
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DJ-Some articles reflecting the Eur-Asian integration-underlining why (US) sanctions can not work.

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/05/24/596744/Iran-Zarif-Pakistan-Chabahar-Gwadar-railroad-port (DJ-India is a main investor in Chabahar/Iran-Baluchistan)
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-26/china-hails-modi-victory-why

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Pakistan_gas_pipeline,https://energy.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/oil-and-gas/undersea-pipeline-from-iran-can-bring-cheaper-gas-to-india-tnr-rao/60379977

To put this story https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/iran-president-u-s-blocking-our-ships-from-all-countries-for-10-days in perspective-the US does not control the Caspian sea connecting Iran with Russia, or the land borders between Iran and Pakistan, Iraq, Turkey.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iraq-stands-by-iran-will-not-support-us-military-action-iraqi-fm/

Putting sanctions on Iran because the US is breaking the Iran-deal is absurd. Putting sanctions on countries that refuse to buy US energy (due to Northstream 1+2, Turkstream etc), US weapons (like the F35-JSF "corruption"-the SU35 is a better cheaper Russian alternative. Turkey-Russia working on the S-500) or US high tech (HuaWei is better but not US) belongs to criminal acts NOT decent international behavior.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-26/army-virtue-tweet-backfires-1000s-expose-heartbreaking-horrors-war
War is a crime against international law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket Making money via wars is a crime-the US is a criminal state. It is the US that was behind recent wars, but looking further back in history https://medium.com/@duplacer/hitler-was-financed-by-the-federal-reserve-and-the-bank-of-england-by-yuri-rubtsov-e972e3347f0e you have to look at who is planning, financing wars to stop wars.
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Some further background info;

https://thebulletin.org/nuclear-risk/?utm_source=Bulletin%20newsletter&utm_medium=iContact%20email&utm_campaign=NuclearRiskCategory

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-22/russia-aims-exploit-africas-energy-potential

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-22/rand-corp-how-destroy-russia

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-23/trump-vs-world-jim-rickards-warns-will-get-ugly-fast

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/05/why-trumps-huawei-ban-is-unlikely-to-persist.html

https://southfront.org/houthis-release-rare-video-of-drone-attack-on-abu-dhabi-international-airport/

DJ-In my opinion the basic-main-conflict is between the US and China. Pressure on Iran is pressure on China. Other conflicts still can get out of control. The Pakistan-India conflict may pose the most danger.

Israel/KSA may take action-on their own-against Iran-force the US to react.

The Yemen conflict is more and more fought in Saudi Arabia, UAE. Pakistan, Sudan (and south American mercenaries) were on the KSA/UAE side. Now more US/UK forces seem to fight along KSA/UAE. Inflow of weapons (etc) from Iran to Yemen is very limited. Most likely the Houthi's manage to get their "goods" from forces they overtake. (Just like in other guerilla warfare Central America, SE Asia.)
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https://www.rt.com/news/460024-huawei-bannon-china-ban/ DJ-The US should remain the tech-leader in the world-policy. Proberbly the US knows perfectly how to use ICT to spy on countries, big data. They do not want China to be able to do what the US is already doing.

With the "upcoming markets" being in Asia, Africa, Latin America the "tech-trade-war" will be partly there. Self-driving cars, etc. HuaWei may be in a good position when "they can deliver better services for a lower price". (But it would be wise when "blocks" like the EU would go for their own high-tech-in my opinion-no matter what the costs are. Goes also for energy (less deals with Arab/Russia-standing on their own feet) and "defense" (The F35-JSF is already outdated, way to expensive, "we" as EU-should have a better idea.)https://russia-insider.com/en/science-tech/chinese-tech-giant-huawei-lean-mean-and-ready-knock-google-out-game/ri27101?fbclid=IwAR2XaReackXYGgZh1p1UKPBKpJETyEZR1dWpzEdXXxqe-MceNLd94Are8ac#.XOW6izsO7uA.facebook

https://www.rt.com/news/460038-iran-complete-control-us/ DJ-I did not see any news on Russia, China (or Turkey, Pakistan etc.) working more close with Iran in its "defense". (Maybe they do not see it yet as needed-the US is not ready for a major attack on Iran. Unless they would use ICBM's-in that scenario Russia and China can answer likewise.)

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/05/venezuela-after-opposition-support-deflated-us-targets-food-aid-supply.html
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