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    Posted: September 15 2019 at 4:02am
Some more info;

https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201908241076629303-why-trumps-offer-to-buy-greenland-isnt-as-mad-as-it-sounds/,
https://sputniknews.com/world/201908231076614450-trump-greenland-purchase-puerto-rico/
The New York Times has quoted an unnamed White House official as claiming that last year, US President Donald Trump jokingly called for the US to trade Puerto Rico, a self-governing overseas territory of the United States, for Greenland.

https://www.apnews.com/9d4a8021c3650800fdf6dd5903f68972:
WASHINGTON (AP) _ The United States in 1946 proposed to pay Denmark $100 million to buy Greenland after flirting with the idea of swapping oil-rich land in Alaska for strategic parts of the bleak Arctic island, documents in the National Archives show.

The $100 million was to be in gold. And even though the sale did not go through, the United States ended up with the military bases it wanted anyway.

DJ-The US may show more "interest" in Greenland while Denmark will remain in power over the area-with a role for Greenlanders.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_Council and https://forumarctica.ru/en/the-forum/about/ are international organizations were Arctic developments can be discussed.

https://visitgreenland.com/ Large scale tourism will do a lot of damage to Greenland.

https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/board,12.0.html

DJ-Maybe Denmark should discus with Iceland, Norway, Canada how to keep Greenland out of US-China/Russia conflicts. China is a major investor in mining and airfields. Due to less sea-ice the route north of Siberia-via the Arctic ocean-is getting interesting for traderoutes for East Asia-EU trade.

Trump's idea of getting more control over Greenland is a step in his anti-China policy. Increased military activity in Greenland should-internationaly-be considered as unwelcome. (Russia has a mining interest in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard-part of Norway-but demilitarized. Such an idea should also be good for Greenland. )

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It would make more geographic sense if Greenland joined Canada.
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Chump has lost the Plot.......

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Trump's Greenland disaster;

https://www.rt.com/news/466963-trump-insults-danish-queen/,
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/466903-greenland-buy-american-exceptionalism/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/21/trump-state-visit-cancellation-over-greenland-shocks-danes and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy9lxSPLNBU

https://geopoliticalfutures.com/polar-silk-road-china-comes-greenland/

From Denmark:

http://cphpost.dk/news/trump-cancellation-a-huge-cost-to-denmark.html,

https://www.thelocal.dk/20190821/denmark-greenland-danes-pour-scorn-on-trump-after-state-visit-postponement,:
Danish commentators were quick to give their views on Trump’s conduct over the Denmark state visit, in press comments and on social media.

“This is an unprecedented situation. It’s hard to find the right words. Nobody behaves like this on the international stage, least of all an American president,” Thomas Larsen, political commentator with newspaper Berlingske, told Ritzau.

“It’s a heavyweight-class insult. A state visit normally confirms a friendship, a relationship and an alliance between two countries,” Larsen added.


Politicians on Denmark's right were vocal about the issue on Wednesday morning.

“As a Dane (and a conservative) it is very hard to believe. For no reason Trump assumes that (an autonomous) part of our country is for sale. Then insultingly cancels visit that everybody was preparing for,” tweeted Rasmus Jarlov, a finance spokesperson with the Conservatives known for posting strident right-wing views on social media.

“Are parts of the US for sale? Alaska? Please show more respect,” Jarlov added.

“The US is a very special country with incredible people, but based on President Trump’s comments on buying Greenland, Denmark will gladly be postponing our meeting scheduled in two weeks for... well, until another President takes office,” Mercado wrote, adding the hashtag #notarealestatedeal.

https://www.thelocal.dk/20190821/five-things-to-know-about-greenland
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Earth's warmer, watery future is being written in fast-melting Greenland
By Associated Press - 6 hours ago

Two kayakers just escaped with their lives after a massive glacier collapsed just in front of them in Alaska.
This is where Earth's refrigerator door is left open, where glaciers dwindle and seas begin to rise.

New York University air and ocean scientist David Holland, who is tracking what's happening in Greenland from both above and below, calls it "the end of the planet."

He is referring to geography more than the future. Yet in many ways this place is where the planet's warmer and watery future is being written.


It is so warm here, just inside the Arctic Circle, that on an August day, coats are left on the ground and Holland and colleagues work on the watery melting ice without gloves. In one of the closest towns, Kulusuk, the morning temperature reached a shirtsleeve 10.7 degrees.


Brian Rougeux, New York University field safety officer, installs a GPS antenna at the Helheim glacier, in Greenland. (AP)
The ice Holland is standing on is thousands of years old. It will be gone within a year or two, adding yet more water to rising seas worldwide.

The northern summer this year is hitting Greenland hard with record-shattering heat and extreme melt. By the end of the season, about 400 billion tonnes of ice — maybe more — will have melted or calved off Greenland's giant ice sheet, scientists estimate. That's enough water to flood Pennsylvania or the country of Greece about 35 centimetres deep.

In just the five days from July 31 to August 3, more than 53 billion tonnes melted from the surface. That's over 40 billion tonnes more than the average for this time of year. And that 53 billion tonnes doesn't even count the huge calving events or the warm water eating away at the glaciers from below, which may be a huge factor.

And one of the places hit hardest this hot Greenland summer is here on the southeastern edge of the giant frozen island: Helheim, one of Greenland's fastest-retreating glaciers, has shrunk about 10 kilometres since scientists came here in 2005.


Researchers at the Helheim island in Greenland have found glaciers among some of the fastest retreating due to warm temperatures. (AP)
Several scientists, such as NASA oceanographer Josh Willis, who is also in Greenland, studying melting ice from above, said what's happening is a combination of man-made climate change and natural but weird weather patterns. Glaciers here do shrink in the summer and grow in the winter, but nothing like this year.

Summit Station, a research camp nearly 3,200 metres high and far north, warmed to above freezing twice this year for a record total of 16.5 hours. Before this year, that station was above zero for only 6.5 hours in 2012, once in 1889 and also in the Middle Ages.

This year is coming near but not quite passing the extreme summer of 2012 — Greenland's worst year in modern history for melting, scientists report.

"If you look at climate model projections, we can expect to see larger areas of the ice sheet experiencing melt for longer durations of the year and greater mass loss going forward," said University of Georgia ice scientist Tom Mote. "There's every reason to believe that years that look like this will become more common."


Researchers sit on top of a rock overlooking the Helheim glacier in Greenland. Summer 2019 is hitting the island hard with record-shattering heat and extreme melt. (AP)
A NASA satellite found that Greenland's ice sheet lost about 255 billion metric tonnes of ice a year between 2003 and 2016, with the loss rate generally getting worse over that period. Nearly all of the 28 Greenland glaciers that Danish climate scientist Ruth Mottram measured are retreating, especially Helheim.

At Helheim, the ice, snow and water seem to go on and on, sandwiched by bare dirt mountains that now show no signs of ice but get covered in the winter. The only thing that gives a sense of scale is the helicopter carrying Holland and his team. It's dwarfed by the landscape, an almost imperceptible red speck against the ice cliffs where Helheim stops and its remnants begin.

Those ice cliffs are somewhere between 70 metres and 100 metres high. Just next to them are Helheim's remnants — sea ice, snow and icebergs — forming a mostly white expanse, with a mishmash of shapes and textures. Frequently water pools amid that white, glimmering a near-fluorescent blue that resembles windshield wiper fluid .

A June 2019 study by scientists in the US and Denmark said melting ice in Greenland alone will add between 5 and 33 centimetres to rising global sea levels by the year 2100. If all the ice in Greenland melted — which would take centuries — the world's oceans would rise by 7.2 metres, the study found. (AAP)
As pilot Martin Norregaard tries to land his helicopter on the broken-up part of what used to be glacier — a mush called a melange — he looks for ice specked with dirt, a sign that it's firm enough for the chopper to set down on. Pure white ice could conceal a deep crevasse that leads to a cold and deadly plunge.

Holland and team climb out to install radar and GPS to track the ice movement and help explain why salty, warm, once-tropical water attacking the glacier's "underbelly" has been bubbling to the surface

"It takes a really long time to grow an ice sheet, thousands and thousands of years, but they can be broken up or destroyed quite rapidly," Holland said.

Holland, like NASA's Willis, suspects that warm, salty water that comes in part from the Gulf Stream in North America is playing a bigger role than previously thought in melting Greenland's ice. And if that's the case, that's probably bad news for the planet, because it means faster and more melting and higher sea level rise. Willis said that by the year 2100, Greenland alone could cause a sea level rise of more than one metre.

The Gulf Stream current in North America is playing a bigger role than previously thought in melting Greenland's ice. (Getty)
So it's crucial to know how much of a role the air above and the water below play.

"What we want for this is an ice sheet forecast," Holland said.

In this remote landscape, sound travels easily for miles. Every several minutes there's a faint rumbling that sounds like thunder, but it's not. It's ice cracking.

In tiny Kulusuk, about a 40-minute helicopter ride away, Mugu Utuaq says the winter that used to last as much as 10 months when he was a boy can now be as short as five months. That matters to him because as the fourth-ranked dogsledder in Greenland, he has 23 dogs and needs to race them.

They can't race in the summer, but they still have to eat. So Utuaq and friends go whale hunting with rifles in small boats. If they succeed, which this day they didn't, the dogs can eat whale.

"People are getting rid of their dogs because there's no season," said Yewlin, who goes by one name. He used to run a sled dog team for tourists at a hotel in neighbouring Tasiilaq, but they no longer can do that.

Yes, the melting glaciers, less ice and warmer weather are noticeable and much different from his childhood, said Kulusuk Mayor Justus Paulsen, 58. Sure, it means more fuel is needed for boats to get around, but that's OK, he said.

"We like it because we like to have a summer," Paulsen said.

But Holland looks out at Helheim glacier from his base camp and sees the bigger picture. And it's not good, he said. Not for here. Not for Earth as a whole.

"It's kind of nice to have a planet with glaciers around," Holland said.

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DJ-Trump was and is serious about making Greenland part of the US. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-20/trump-postpones-meeting-danish-pm-over-greenland-snub

Should Greenland prepare for a US invasion ? (With IS-bears as excuse....)
The world/Trump is getting crazy !

https://www.rt.com/news/466935-trump-greenland-denmark-meeting/:
Frederiksen refused to even entertain the possibility, calling the purchase “absurd” and explaining more than once that “Greenland is not for sale” - and that it isn’t Denmark’s to sell, anyway. Trump, for his part, has floated the idea of purchasing the landmass multiple times, musing that “it would be nice” for strategic purposes.
-DJ; Since Denmark is part of EU, and several other (nordic) organizations Trump's approach may increase "unease" even further between those groups and the (present) US.

Trump's idea "you can buy a country" reflects "money rules". That idea is unacceptable for almost all other countries.
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DJ-https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,2591.5800.html discussion on the 2019 Arctic Melt Season. Most likely it will end up close to the 2012 record low level. Result will be-certainly with most of the ice surrounding Greenlanden melted-increased glacier landice flow from Greenland into the ocean. And increased rise of the Greenland landmass due to decreased pressure from landice.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-18/its-not-joke-trump-confirms-he-looking-strategicaly-interesting-greenland

DJ-Trump is planning to visit Denmark next month. If Trump is serious in his idea "he can buy Greenland" Denmark may cancel that visit. https://www.salon.com/2019/08/16/denmark-trumps-plan-to-buy-greenland-is-final-proof-that-hes-gone-mad/ and https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-greenland-purchase-buy-denmark-white-house-island-latest-arctic-reaction-a9061861.html
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Greenland ice melts......
Stops Global Conveyer....
The ice age cometh......
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In Chumps world everything got a sale price......lol
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/15/donald-trump-greenland-purchase-denmark

DJ-The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland have their https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naalakkersuisut own parlement. Not very likely they want to become US citizens. (A connection with Canada or Iceland may be more logical).

There is already a "battle for Greenland" from investors loking for mining possibilities. Trump is expected to visit Denmark in september. https://www.rt.com/usa/466607-greenland-trump-buy-report/
The "idea of buying a country" may be seen as insulting. Greenland once was part of the EU, sometimes there are "corrections of borders" in good dialogue.

Industry, mining, tourism, are major risks for the Greenland ice.
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We should minimize our ecological foodprint, stop flying, eating meat, only drive cars when it is essential. With over 7.7 billion people now reducing birthrates can make a difference.

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

https://nsidc.org/greenland-today/greenland-surface-melt-extent-interactive-chart/, https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,153.0.html

At this forum discussion on Blue Ocean Event. (BOE) What happens in the Arctic effects Greenland.
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Originally posted by carbon20 carbon20 wrote:

We have Stuffed up this planet,

The only answer in my humble opinion

"Slate Wiper"

at least 75% of the human population has to be euthanized

We are the ones causing this,

No other speices,

If we were elephants in a game park destroying

The habitat the Human's would

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Population pressure is not an issue on Greenland. (But we all knew that already.) Tourism may get a problem.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-03/harvard-scientists-funded-bill-gates-begin-spraying-particles-sky-dim-sun

DJ-One could claim climate change is the outcome of "geo-engenering", humans using fossil fuels (and nuclear energy-Fukushima did do a lot of damage) are the reasons for "climate collapse".

https://paulbeckwith.net/2019/08/03/albedo-not-tomato-potato-keto-or-waco/ Melt is changing the Greenland albedo-less reflection=more absorption of the Sun energy.

https://robinwestenra.blogspot.com/2019/08/large-areas-of-blue-ocean-appear-in.html

(DJ-When the climate collapses (human) life ends, we go on a Venus-road.)
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We are so adaptable it may take a while yet, but like Jacksdad, I am sure it is on the way.

Having seen some of our TV lately*, I'm not so sure the wiper will sadden me much.

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Originally posted by carbon20 carbon20 wrote:

We have Stuffed up this planet,

The only answer in my humble opinion

"Slate Wiper"

at least 75% of the human population has to be euthanized

We are the ones causing this,

No other speices,

If we were elephants in a game park destroying

The habitat the Human's would

CULL US......





I have a feeling the problem (us) will fix itself, and a lot sooner than most people believe - if they believe it at all. We can't even feed everyone now, and we're pushing the land to it's limit already. If the population does indeed reach 9-11 billion by mid century, the UN estimates we'll need 75% more food. Access to fresh water is already becoming an issue, and we won't be able to rely on the oceans for food because it's predicted that they'll be effectively fished dry by 2050. With changing weather patterns expected to impact growing regions with devastating results in the next few decades, a perfect storm is heading our way and few people see it.

I honestly believe that global famine is a certainty in the near future, and for the first time since the Black Death we're going to see a massive human die-off. It pains me to think that way being a parent, but we've painted ourselves in this corner and I don't think we have the sense to get ourselves out. I don't believe we're doomed as a species because we're just too adaptable, but just as all the other great civilizations fell, I think this one also has an expiration date and we're fast approaching it.

This is not sustainable.



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Some links;

https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,2543.400.html discussing the present Greenland melt.

https://nsidc.org/greenland-today/greenland-surface-melt-extent-interactive-chart/ 2019 melt vs 2012 melt Greenland

https://www.google.nl/maps/@67.0447609,-52.0105437,120261m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=nl A long streetmap view of Greenland from Sisimiut (2nd largest "city" in Greenland) to Kangerlussuaq and ice sheet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSR7cYgK-is Euronews on present melt.
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We have Stuffed up this planet,

The only answer in my humble opinion

"Slate Wiper"

at least 75% of the human population has to be euthanized

We are the ones causing this,

No other speices,

If we were elephants in a game park destroying

The habitat the Human's would

CULL US......



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The Greenland ice sheet poured 197 billion tons of water into the North Atlantic in July alone
Ongoing extreme melt event continues, with more than half the ice sheet experiencing melting on July 31.
Melting ice forms a lake on free-floating ice jammed into the Ilulissat Icefjord during unseasonably warm weather on July 30, 2019, near Ilulissat, Greenland. (Sean Gallup/Getty Images)
Melting ice forms a lake on free-floating ice jammed into the Ilulissat Icefjord during unseasonably warm weather on July 30, 2019, near Ilulissat, Greenland. (Sean Gallup/Getty Images)
By Andrew Freedman and Jason Samenow
August 1, 2019 at 11:10 AM EDT
When one thinks of Greenland, images of an icebound, harsh and forbidding landscape probably come to mind, not a landscape of ice pocked with melt ponds and streams transformed into raging rivers. And almost certainly not one that features wildfires.

Yet the latter description is exactly what Greenland looks like today, according to imagery shared on social media, scientists on the ground and data from satellites.

An extraordinary melt event that began earlier this week continues on Thursday on the Greenland ice sheet, and there are signs that about 60 percent of the expansive ice cover has seen detectable surface melting, including at higher elevations that only rarely see temperatures climb above freezing.

July 31 was the biggest melt day since at least 2012, with about 60 percent of the ice sheet seeing at least 1 millimeter of melt at the surface, and more than 10 billion tons of ice lost to the ocean from surface melt, according to data from the Polar Portal, a website run by Danish polar research institutions, and the National Snow and Ice Data Center. Thursday could be another significant melt day, before temperatures drop to more seasonable levels.

According to Ruth Mottram, a climate researcher with the Danish Meteorological Institute, the ice sheet sent 197 billion tons of water pouring into the Atlantic Ocean during July.

This is enough to raise sea levels by 0.5 millimeter, or 0.02 inches, in a one-month time frame, said Martin Stendel, a researcher with the institute.


This might seem inconsequential, but every increment of sea-level rise provides a higher launchpad for storms to more easily flood coastal infrastructure, such as New York’s subway system, parts of which flooded during Hurricane Sandy in 2012. Think of a basketball game being played on a court whose floor is gradually rising, making it easier for even shorter players to dunk the ball.

As a result of both surface melting and a lack of snow on the ice sheet this summer, “this is the year Greenland is contributing most to sea-level rise,” said Marco Tedesco, a climate scientist at Columbia University.

Thanks to an expansive area of high pressure enveloping all of Greenland — the same weather system that brought extreme heat to Europe last week — temperatures in Greenland have been running up to 15 to 30 degrees above average this week.

(National Snow and Ice Data Center)
At Summit Station, which at 10,551 feet is located at the highest point in Greenland and rarely sees temperatures above freezing, the thermometer exceeded this mark for about 11 hours Tuesday, according to Christopher Shuman, a glaciologist at the University of Maryland-Baltimore County and NASA Goddard Space Flight Center.

The ongoing melt event is being compared to a record extreme heat and melt episode that occurred in Greenland in 2012. While the extent of surface melt during that event may have exceeded this one so far, Shuman found that Summit Station experienced warmth that was greater “in both magnitude and duration” during the current event. The temperature only remained above freezing about half as long in 2012, and the peak temperature reached 34.02 degrees this year, whereas it only hit 33.73 in 2012. During the 2012 extreme event, however, 97 percent of the ice surface experienced melting.

“Like 2012, this melt event reached the highest elevations of the ice sheet, which is highly unusual,” says Thomas Mote, a professor of geography at the University of Georgia. “Both our satellite observations and the ground-based observations from Summit indicated melt on Tuesday.”

“The event itself was unusual that the warm air mass came from the east, and appears to be a part of the air mass that caused the record-breaking heat wave in Europe. Most of our extreme melt days on the Greenland ice sheet are associated with warm air masses moving from the west and south. I cannot recall an instance where we saw such extensive melt associated with an air mass coming from Northern Europe,” Mote said.

The heat, along with below-average precipitation in parts of Greenland, has even sparked wildfires along the Greenland’s non-ice-covered western fringes. Satellite images and photos taken from the ground show fires burning in treeless areas, consuming mossy wetlands known as fen that can become vulnerable to fires when they dry out. These fires can burn into peatlands, releasing greenhouse gases buried long ago through decomposition of organic matter.

A wildfire burns in western Greenland on July 31, 2019. (Orla Joelsen via Twitter)
Studies have shown that ice melt periods like the one seen in 2012 typically occur about every 250 years, so the fact that another one is taking place only a few years later could be a sign of how climate change is upping the odds of such events.

According to DMI’s Mottram, the short-term, extreme melt event is a sign of climate change’s increasing influence on the Arctic.

“So yes it’s weather but it shows that in spite of internal variability the background signal of a warming climate is still “winning,” she said via a Twitter message. She said state-of-the-art climate computer models have been unable to simulate events like this, which hampers scientists’ ability to accurately predict Greenland ice melt and, therefore, future sea-level rise.

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