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Panic causes trouble - Event Date: April 13 2006

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    Posted: April 13 2006 at 7:42am
I need to mention that this topic of the bird flu is causing panic in my family.  My husband has been told about what to do and how to prepare and he has spent over $1,000 in food, gun, and others.  I think there is no need to panic and overload your home with food and unnecessary items yet.  This is causing a financial problem and I think there is no need to overflow your home with food that may go bad in a couple of months.  Please stop panicking other people about this issue.
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He shouldn't be buying food that goes bad in "a couple of months" for long time storage.  It sounds like he needs better advice.  There is nothing wrong, however, in preparing in earnest.  You will thank your husband if BF hits.
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Many foods can be stored for years. It is important to have an adequate supply of food and water becuase you never know when you might need it (hurricanes, earthquakes, bird flu, etc....)
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Yes, he needs better advice , he is being getting it from here.  He is being buying canned food to expire in about 1 year.  I not against not being prepared I contributed to buying "some" food to put aside but not the point where he spent $700 in one day for food and shot gun for $300 and now we are overdrawn until next week.   We need gas money to go to work.  Using credit cards because of his overspending in food is trouble for us.
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That I understand, we went through 8 hurricanes last year and the year before.  My point is why overspend now, this can be done slowly (storing food).  Not to the point to spend $1000 in one week including gun and amunitions.  It is good to be prepared but not the point where is causing arguing and fighting about over spending.
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I totally understand your frustration. My family of 5 is currently living off of one income and an unemployment check. To say money is tight is an understatement.
The food you purchased will not go to waste, after all you can eat some of it now if you have to. Spending money on preps to the point one is overdrawn is not good for anyone. Is there something that can be returned so that you can have enough cash for gas?
Let this be a lesson learned for both of you (sadly the hard way) that you can turn into a positive. Why not set down and go over what preps you have made together so you know where you are with prepping. You could then make a plan for any future prepping so that neither of you spends money for preps unless you are following the plan and have the cash available to make those purchases. That way you will not purchase things you do not need or become overdrawn because of prepping.
Personally I have a list of specific items to purchase and I know which of several stores has the best buy on those items. I will only buy those items that best meet my needs for the best price when the cash is available. If I find an item on sale I compare it with my list, if it is a better price then I make that purchase only if the funds are available because a sale is not a sale if it leaves me overdrawn and wanting for gas money.
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I agree he has gone overboard. I think this is an unfortunate side-affect of when people start to "get it" just how bad this thing has the potential to become. But we need to remember, at this point it is still just a possibility, with a ton of unknowns. Luckily, for most, it seems to be a temporary thing, then he'll settle down and prep in more measured and affordable doses. Keep your eyes on developments, especially China and Azerbajian, they seem to be hot spots.
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Thank you, that is what I want to hear.  He knows we need to sit down and talk.  I live in Florida and used to live in mobile home.  I know what it is to evacuate 2 or 3 times a year with birds, cats and a dog.  I was always prepared for canned food, candles, batteries and extras, but never got ridiculous.  Thank you for understanding my point.  I will show him all the replys.
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I think your husband has the right intentions but may have gone about it in the wrong way. It is never a good idea to spend more money than you reasonably afford , which then creates financial problems for your family.  My advice is to look at how much you can afford to spend on preps each week or month, and then set a "budget" and look for items on sale. If you buy a little bit at a time, you will be surprised how quickly it adds up.
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We have about 50 1 gallon water, and two of the big ones plus he wanted to buy the 30 gallon garbage cans to store more water.  this is too soon.  Cases of canned food and dry soup that you mix with water.  and much more.  toilet paper by the tons.  Enough for 4 bad hurricanes.  I know we all have to think about this pandemic may come but I think we need to wait until scientists and researchers (my daughter is one) find something alarming.. My daughter is in the medical business and I know she will let me know immediaately if there is a reason TO PANIC!
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sunshinekey1-
 
Most money problems in a marriage are usually communication problems.
 
Realize that even  if this website never existed, the strong recommendation  to prepare is coming from a Cabinet Official in the Admisnistration- Michael Leavitt.
 
 This website simply helps you prepare more effectively and efficently.   
He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.Proverbs 13:20, The Bible
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Yes, I agree.  Look at the article of the Girl in Cambodia, I am aware of what is going on.   But people no one has died here in the The United States of America of the bird flu.  Let's prepare NOT PANIC

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Thank you, you are absolutely right.  We will talk, this will not happen again.  I am doing this so that this does not happen to somebody else.  DO NOT PANIC, just plan intelligently.
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GOT TO GO.  GOT TO WORK.
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Sunshinekey1, waiting until there is something to panic about is not what we want to do. We are trying to prepare ahead of time, before the panic, once "there is reason to panic" everyone else is also going to panic and you won't be able to get the supplies you need. You live in FLA, have you ever tried to buy supplies before a hurricane when everyone else is trying to get supplies? There is nothing in the stores. Having lived on the coast half my life, I have no desire to not be able to get the things my family will need, therefore I am preparing ahead of time. This pandemic, when it happens, will last a whole lot longer than a hurricane and the aftermath, so you will need alot more than what you would need getting ready for a hurricane IMO. You said your husband has bought 50-1 gallons bottles of water, for 2 people (not sure if there are more in your family) that is only a 25 day supply of water, less of a supply if you have more people. I am sorry you are overdrawn and have no gas money, hopefully you all will be able to sit down and do a budget with your husband and get back on track.
    
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Sunshinekey1 wrote, "DO NOT PANIC". I agree; panic causes people to make irrational decisions. Buying things a little bit at a time makes better sense. Personally, I would go "freaking crazy" if I rushed out all at once to buy supplies. Instead, I buy a few things here and there, and that gives me time to decide whether the items are really essential or just an impulse buy. Don't get me wrong; I have done my share of impulse buying so I have learned my lesson the hard way. In addition, discussing this issue with your husband might be very helpful as well.


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Sunshinekey, I agree to not panic, just use what you can afford to stock things, and I personally don't stock things that ruin in months.

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Sunshine rotate your food stock -then it does not expire. Just repalce things as you go - then nothing is wasted and nothing runs out.
 
the experts have sounded the alarm to begin preparing Waiting untill news of sustained human to human transmission is going to be too late.
 
I understand your financial concerns few of us on the board are wealthy, were in the same boat as you. One of the untold benefits of prepping is that your grocery bill will go down not up - your more careful with your funds and eventually you only have to buy when something is discounted . For me it cut my monthly bill by 25% so preparing is really financially sound.
 
Only buy what you eat regularlly - just in larger amounts.
 
Have you considered a garage sale to cover the cost of ssome of the things your husband bought? What about working overtime or picking up a part time job for one of you for a short time you would be surprised what a difference that would make in your over all financial picture.
 
Either way you and your hubby need to come to a meeting of the minds and work together. Your lucky that you have a husband that is spending money on proctecting his family instead of on something that benefits him. He sounds like a great guy wish there were more men out there that cared that much about there familiesCry
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sunshinekey1-
 
You have raised an issue that will effect everyone of us- the economics of any flu pandemic.
 
Just as you have to go to work, sooner or later we will have to go back to our businesses and jobs after a pandemic. And the pandemic could last a long time, wave after wave. We can not, or will not, hunker in the bunker forever.
 
One very effective thing to do is to only eat the flu food and save money. I can assure you he will want to eat fresh food before a week is out and you can save the money. This site stresses eat what you buy and buy what you eat.
 
Money comes and money goes.How you and your husband resolve this is the most important issue.You two need to work together.
 
You can tell your husband that I do not buy any prep items unless I talk it over with my wife FIRST, before I buy,and cost is not really an issue. Communication is the issue.
 
If either of you were injured, and had to pay the $1,000 in medical expenses, you would sacrifice and do so. You can overcome this if you work together.
 
Please let us know how this works out.
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