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Online Discussion: Tracking new emerging diseases and the next pandemic.

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    Posted: January 19 2006 at 2:59am

What types of preps are you getting to barter with..thats if you dare to venture out..

I picked up another 8 tubes of toothpaste yesterday..now I have enough for a year..so I was thinking about getting about another 8-10 tubes as a barter item..I also have candy stored that might be good and of course flour and rice would be good also

What I a wondering is there anyone else thinking along this lines...

oh and I have lots of hooks and fishing line..

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Hi Muskrat,

wouldn't it be better to spend your money on something you could use yourself instead of buying items with the intention to barter?

That way you are more self reliant and nobody would be the wiser of the fact that you have a stash of food and other goodies....
Going out to barter might attract unwanted attention to you and your family.

And what would you trade your toothpaste for?
Food? Water? Better to buy that now yourself, in case of an pandemic prices only go up, never down!


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(Who is sure she is forgetting something for her stash... but what????
Will probably come to me when it is too late..... )
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I had a one time a list of the first 100 things to sell fast in emergency..I should have kept the list..so if anyone has it would be appreciated..
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I think the thing I would be trading for most and being very crefull when I do it..would be firewood....althou I have some wood..I will not be able to store enough to cook and since I have plenty prepped I would trade meals and such for someone to brave collecting me some...

I am working on this, but I am still wondering this year or next year..

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Toilet paper.

Kleenex.

Babywipes.

Hand sanitizer.

Matches.

Rolling tobacco.

Coffee.




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Don't forget the old vices such as alcohol and cigarettes.
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Or modern essentials like baby formula and disposable diapers.
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I have those individual size alcohol bottles, cigarettes, chocolate, shotgun ammo., and of course personal hygiene supplies. I'm trying to think of other items so this is a good thread to have!
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I'm thinking of purchasing a bunch of TP, then removing the inner cardboard roll, then flattening them and sticking each roll into a ziplock freezer bag -- this really reduces the amount of space needed for TP storage, (and incidentally, was how the troops in Iraq specified as the best way to ship TP to them.)

However, I'm unsure whether these rolls will actually ROLL on the toilet paper holder after they've had their innards removed.
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muskrat,

imo, the best trade goods you can get are food, food and more food.

with the exception of water, that will be the first thing that gets hard to get for the unprepped,

plus you can always eat it yourself if needed.

the other most useful trade goods (imo) are tobacco and booze

 

omega,

good tip.

and to be honest, who will care if it goes on the loo holder, lol

its better than large leaves

i read somewhere the first two things that people panic buy are sugar and tp

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Originally posted by pioneer pioneer wrote:

muskrat,


imo, the best trade goods you can get are food, food and more food.


with the exception of water, that will be the first thing that gets hard to get for the unprepped,


plus you can always eat it yourself if needed.


the other most useful trade goods (imo) are tobacco and booze


 


omega,


good tip.


and to be honest, who will care if it goes on the loo holder, lol


its better than large leaves


i read somewhere the first two things that people panic buy are sugar and tp



I don't plan to NEED to barter; however, if I receive help from someone during a disaster, I'd like to give them something decent and that they can use --- but although it will be easier to store TP in the manner described above, I don't want so many done that way that they never get used up by the family because they can't go on the TP holder.

Almost ALL reports I've read about modern disasters in the west was that people most wanted toilet paper and a pair of clean fresh new underwear.

Frankly, I'm not certain I'd want to barter with anyone who was literally enthused, in the midst of an international pandemic about receiving liquor in a trade.

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My guesses would be:

Fats, meats, spices, candles(batteries or forms of light), OTC meds and anti-biotics.

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omega,

with all due respect,

if thats all the tp they have, will they care?

yes i agree about the literally enthused bit with booze.

but it would be a valuble trade item if trading away from home turf.

imo, a lighter, box of matches, firesteel and or candles might be a good useful gift and if they have children chocolate

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thanks kevin.

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Many of the posts I read on many of these forums, there is mention, again & again, repetitively, that many posters are running out of space.

Perhaps you still have a large amount of room to store preps. Many here apparently do not.

I was offerring a way to reduce the size of one bulky item, for storage purposes; however, like I mentioned -- I don't want a HUGE stash of TP that is not usable on toilet paper holders.

Your mileage may vary.

So be it.

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omega,

i think you misunderstood my answer,

i said it was a good idea,

btw, i just  removed the inside and flattened one,

i know it was only only flattened for a few minutes but it goes on a holder and rolls ok. 

as i said good tip and one ill be using,

thank you

 

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I'll have to try that, myself - I'm glad your experiment worked, it seems to me that it MIGHT (?) last quite a bit longer, individually squished into a small ziplock freezer bag, could be stored in the basement for long periods of time with no worry about mold.

See, the attic is NOT a good place for any paper items, the heat & dryness of most attics over the summer are perfect conditions for DRY ROT.

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p.s. I've also read online, but have never done it myself, that you can further decrease the size of TP by using one of those vacumn pak machines which removes all the air --- in fact this is really helpful if you ever send stuff like bedding & pillows to deployed troops, the final box is SUBSTANTIALLY smaller, LOL, according to what I've read.

I don't remember how much smaller the roll of TP got, but you can see that simply by removing the cardboard and squishing it flat that it already is substantially reduced in mass, and in this new shape is much easier to store with no dead space.
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One of the "basic elements"  is fire.  For 6 or 7 bucks you can buy 100 butane lighters at Sam's Club.  They have Bic for slightly more but hey who cares?  If you have no other form of fire other than 2 sticks a full disposable lighter will go a long way.  And its something most people don't think about and its CHEAP.
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