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Problem is this: Where you gonna go?

It is more likely that on paper the stock markets and money will continue to appear to be in a lot better shape than they are. As was true in the midst of what felt much like a depression, those in money positions will continue to prosper while the tax burden, unemployment, poor health care, and discrimination against older citizens will continue to worsen. Medical aided suicide and committees refusing operations and benefits to those with shorter lifespans will become more and more prevalent.

Despite the continued reassurance of those in power with money, the worker class are likely to see new highs in unemployment. As well, human tasks will be replaced with robotic devices and automation.

2010, if there is to be a stock market crash, will be a lead in to 2012 in which there probably will be. With the transfer of the economic center to Asia, jobs, even the money system, the Stock Market in the U.S. may become less and less significant as opposed to a whole New Order and trading system spawed either by a Russian Latin American Alliance- or an Asian one.

We run the serious risk of becoming a thrid world country with an economic implosion and great and greater buy out by Asia.

Depending on the over all disease situation, Pandemics, and also possible civil war- the baanks may simply shut down as well as the Stock Market, making it a moot point.

Huge changes may occur in society as we know it. One consideration is where 1.6 billion Muslims will even engage in a practice which is against their fundamental religion.

http://muslim-investor.com/stocks/stocks.html

It would be the equvalent of someone with a portable T.V. set without batteries looking for a light socket after a nuclear strike. No doubt, we may live to see the equivalent of a nucleaur strike on stocks and bpnds and where the bustling stock fllor is strangely silent as we face an Ice Age instead of global warming.

The world of the future may be far different than those speculating suppose. Much like the sci-fi movies with airline stewardesses on a starship.

Just some interesting alternate thought. We so much think that nothing huge will happen to disrupt life as we know it.

Med

Technologist wrote: Medclinician wrote: It is more likely that on paper the stock markets and money will continue to appear to be in a lot better shape than they are. As was true in the midst of what felt much like a depression, those in money positions will continue to prosper while the tax burden, unemployment, poor health care, and discrimination against older citizens will continue to worsen. Since when are we discriminating against the elderly? The Elderly have the best care in history. The Great Depression helped create security and protection for the elderly. Did we have Medicare, or Social Security before the Great depression? Now the elderly can simply walk into a Hospital and be treated without paying in advance and if you can't pay then you don't pay.

So far, and even in .gov vets- and especially when we went to VA near Stanford- the care was exceptional.

I recently posted here a letter from a doctor to a senator itemizing specifics of the new health care bill. Granted- the bill that finally passes will be different  and right now thay are scurrying to get 3 votes to pass it- but there are some pretty grim subclauses.

From the doctors I have spoken to the essence of this is life expectancy. Basically if you do not have a life expectancy of let us say 3 years- 5 years- in the fine print and with the final committee nod- you don't get the operation. Example- you need a hip replacement- you are 62- they decide they are cutting down costs and you won't be approved.

Then the health care for elderly takes a dive when it is correlated with life expectancy. The young of course are more valuable- i.e. wage earners, hjgher tax payers, mainstream society versus the feeders; the ones drawing pension checks and requiring huge expensive medical treatment and drugs for a person who may not live 3 years.

Here is a thread I put up with a letter

http://avianflutalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=26308&KW=doctor+senator+letter&PID=204486#204486

If you will read through this legislation you will find this

Page 425 Lines 17-19: The Govt will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney, etc.  (And it'smandatory!)
Page 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3: The Govt provides an "approved" list of end-of-life resources; & guiding you in death. (Also called 'assisted suicide.')
 
Page 427 Lines 15-24: The Govt mandates a program for orders on "end-of-life."  (The Govt has a say in how your life ends!)
 
Page 429 Lines 1-9: An "advanced-care planning consultant" will be used frequently as a patient's health deteriorates.
 
Page 429 Lines 10-12: An "advanced care consultation" may include an ORDER for end-of-life plans.  (AN ORDER TO DIE FROM THE GOVERNMENT?!?)

comment: few people have the luxury of reading this bill. Especially some of the legislatures themselves who have never read it - but have staff read it for them.

Kickers on the bill are larger deductibles for medicine. One grandmother had ONE medicine which runs $946 with a 410 deductible and CRX plan. This is close to more than here social security check for a single medicine.

The current bill is really something just rammed through by December to say a bill had been passed. With 3 members needed margin to even get it through- if it passes- it will be not only bad news for elderly- but a terror for doctors as well with fixed numbers as to how much they can charge or make.

We will look back with great fondness when the elderly, even in convalescent hospitals getting substandard care- at least could get a hip transplant and not be told. Nope. You have a condition and you probably won't make it two years so why do the operation?

Talk to some doctors about this. You wll get an earful on this bill- and they aren't so happy about it as well.

Med

The health care bill forces people to buy wether they can afford it or not. This is in your face socialism. The health care insurers will sure love it. They seemed to have become quiet lately. If they are not bitching you know it is a sweet deal for them.

hmmm... violence in the home... fleeing the country... go for it.

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I have never seen so many people on the street asking for assistance.  I use to just give a dollar but the people are really looking bad, so now i am giving $1 and a can of vienna sausages in a plastic bag with a fork and napkin.  At least they have something to eat and a little money for a drink, a shot of some sort of spirits would probably brighten up their day.

Even Jesus provided bread and fish for the hungry and provided a royal wine for a wedding.

Markets down 100 points.. Buy this   http://artec-inc.net/home.htm...  

Hang on to your hats.  It is not good to bite the hand that feeds you.  Banks bought and paid for O and his campaign.  Sounds like a little trouble in paradise.

It was a significant down week. 4% for the dow.

I used to love that yoyo effect. That was where I made my living trading Biotech. Been out for a while. Not sure when I will get back in.

hmmm it's been rolled out since... 1999- 2003?

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good advice...different countries.  Iv'e tried to look into Africa...as in putting up articles.I think Africa will be heard from more as many countries are making moves there.  I like businesses that are connected to Germany.... as partner.   What did you think of 'C..  amazing... 244 billion in cash.  

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