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https://syrianfreepress.wordpress.com/2016/09/22/deirezzour-saa-survivor/ Last saturdays US attack on Syrian Army positions included recognize flight with a drone and killing woonded Syrian soldiers with machine gun fire. (DJ even if this could be propaganda the time for talks between the US (plan-B) and Russia is gone. 


Will China get more involved in Syria. I do not doubt that China has intelligence in Syria to ask Uyghur-Chinese-IS fighters taken prisoner questions about all kinds of things. http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/china-joins-russia-syria-shaping-new-anti-terrorist-alliance/ri16618 Several thousends of IS fighters come from Russia and China. That is one of the reasons why Russia and China deal with this the way they do. An IS victory in Iraq and Syria, IS presence in Afghanistan is a serious risk for China and Russia. China has oil-interests in Libya attacked by IS. 


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Further escalation, also in Europe-a major operation planned to start october 10 ? From Poland NATO will send reinforcements to Ukraine ? Russia testing ICBM technologies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f4GQwhVBrk (Israeli News Live)

Confirmation on the Russian attack on a "Fields Operation Room" from the western coalition near Aleppo. That center did send US planes attacking Syrian forces in eastern Syria last saturday. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/09/23/us-israelisis-control-center-wiped-out-by-russian-missiles/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/09/23/syrian-army-discovers-turkish-manual-instructing-terrorists-in-use-of-nukes/ Syria once had some freedom of press. The Turkish jihadi book maybe once wes legal in Syria. 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-23/caught-tape-did-us-target-syrian-aid-convoy-hellfire-missile The attack on an aid convoy monday, west of Aleppo was done by a US-drone from Incerlik Air Base Turkey. (The US-kerry trying to use that attack as an excuse for a Syrian/Russian no-fly zone above Syria makes clear wich side the US chooses. )

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/2093 All of Syria is within the 2000 km range of Pakistans Ghauri-2 missiles (+ 30Kt nuclear warheads), but the main targets for Pakistan are in India. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia have "strong relations". Without Pakistan there would not be Taliban in Afghanistan, without Saudi Arabia Al-Queda and IS would not excist. Both countries are "friends of the west".
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http://www.debka.com/article/25676/Russian-Syrian-Aleppo-tactics-await-the-South According to Debka Russia and Syria might be planning to "push out" the Sunni-population in eastern Aleppo. The over a 100.000 Sunni-civilians would be forced to go to a "Turkish/Russian/Syrian safe zone" in northern Syria. (The "rebels" proberbly can choose between prison and getting killed). According to Debka Syria has the same kind of plans for the Israeli/Jordan border region. Sunni-citizens to be pushed into "safe zones" close to the border. 
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-37460849 cutting of water supply means that Syria and Russia want to end the battle for Aleppo in the coming days. (This plan may have been part of the Russian-US peaceplan ? http://www.pravdareport.com/world/asia/syria/23-09-2016/135690-Syria-0/

Several thousends of Russian forces are supposed to be fighting in the Aleppo-region (?) http://www.globalresearch.ca/video-syrian-anti-terrorist-operation-in-eastern-aleppo-coordinated-with-russian-military-advisers/5547515. US and other NATO special forces proberbly not that far away from the fighting (and on the "rebel side" fighting the Syrian Arab Army and the Russian "advisors", "volunteers" etc. and regular Russian Army ???)

The Russian attack on a western/rebel operation center near Aleppo came after that center was the info-basis for the US/IS-attack on Syrian http://www.pravdareport.com/opinion/columnists/19-09-2016/135646-us_massacre-0/ (and Russian) forces in eastern Syria. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STN7E2yREjI (Israeli News Live) and http://www.pravdareport.com/video/23-09-2016/135692-syria-0/ (DJ the attack on Syrian (and Russian/Chinese (???) intelligence) forces in Eastern Syria by the US was a decleration of war for Russia (and proberbly also for Iran and Syria). Turkey (as a NATO-member !!!) can deal with the Kurds in Syria (and Iraq) when it cooperates with Russia and Syria. 

(DJ) Although Bush and Blair are the ones who started the illegal war against Iraq, Obama is the main person responsible for the wars in Ukraine, Libya, Syria, Yemen and the continuation of wars in Afghanistan, Iraq. 
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This is scary. It truly mystifies me how people are agonizing about crazy people shooting people (which is very sad and there are not a few nut cases in the U.S.) while we could be on the virge of war. Is the administation on a different channel than our generals? You simply cannot have it both ways. You cannot support terrorists to take out Asaad (no matter what he has done or will do) as we get bombed by Syria and possibly Russia and not have a blow up. What are these people thinking? 

If a jet goes down on either side, will they say - that's okay?  It was an accident. When we have hostile forces buzzing ships and planet at less than 30 feet, someone is going to crash into each other and all the readiness things will kick in.

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In eastern Syria sept 17 the US attack on Syrian Army defending an airfield against IS killed not only 62 Syrian government soldiers but also 20 Iranian troops and about 12 Russian commando's. According to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYwzL9l_LVQ The attack lasted 50 minutes (17.00 till 17.50 local time, I understand 17.57 IS forces moved into the bombed area suggesting communications between US and IS (From the command center near Aleppo wich was destroyed a few days later by Russia ?). The attack did not stop with two Russian warnings only when Russia got ready to shoot the US (most likely, F16's are widespread but only a few countries (Denmark, UK, Australia) have A10 ground-attack planes-some of the countries claiming they did the bombing do not even have F16's ! )planes the attack stopped. 

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/2107 Syria demands Turkey to pull back its forces from Syria. (DJ: Assad does not want strong Kurdish groups in northern Syria-Turkey is doing a job for Assad).
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https://www.rt.com/news/360590-ahrar-sham-chemical-attack-syria/ Rebels (backed by west) planning to use chemical weapons (a.o. white phosphorus the US sold to Saudi Arabia) against civilians. Russia and Syria expect that "the west" will try to put the blame on them (for the interest of western fossil fuels industry, selling of weapons etc.-a fierce competition with Russia and China who also want to secure their "economical interests".) see also http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/09/25/ahrar-al-sham-al-nusra-plans-to-launch-chemical-attack-on-civilians-blame-it-on-syria-govt/

http://www.debka.com/article/25684/Iran-gains-Mediterranean-bases-in-Italy-and-Syria Less US navy ships in Italian ports is less income. Italy is interested in also using Iranian ports. (It is all about money !)

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/09/25/us-deploying-forces-in-7-bases-in-northern-syria/ Over a 1000 US troops with the Kurds, but also sharing intelligence with the Turkish army (?)

http://www.voltairenet.org/article193367.html Eastern Syria is the link between Damascus-Bagdad-Teheran, the western part of the "New Silk Road". By keeping IS in position there the US is blocking Russian, Iranian and Chinese plans.
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https://southfront.org/overview-of-military-situation-in-aleppo-city-on-september-29/ False-flag -US will claim Russia used chemical weapons in the battle for Aleppo ? 


DJ; Both Russia and the US have soldiers in Syria-in the Aleppo region. There is a very real risk of direct fighting between the US and Russia in Syria. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/09/28/hd-footage-of-ongoing-combat-in-aleppo/
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http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/09/29/syrian-war-report-september-29-2016-us-deploys-troops-near-aleppo-city/ US troops north of Aleppo. 


Is loosing the battle for Aleppo loosing the Syrian war ? Does that effect US control of oil and energy ? The petro-dollar ? Does loosing Syria open the door for China's New Silk Road ? 

(DJ) I hope that in the chain of command from both Russia and the US (and Israel with 200 nukes) there is enough common sense to de-escalate. 


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The war for Syria is growing into a US-Russia conflict. http://www.debka.com/article/25696/US-Russia-on-brink-of-military-showdown-in-Syria-, http://theduran.com/us-prepares-tell-russia-no-more-talking-as-obama-prepares-war-strategy-syria/

There is not much support for a major war for Syria. http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/09/syria-us-propaganda-shams-start-to-openly-fail-.html. The US/west is supporting "rebels" that are not very different from the IS the US/west claims to fight. 

Today is the funeral of Shimon Peres in Jerusalem. http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/18303/State-funeral-for-Shimon-Peres-in-Jerusalem There will be a lot of conversation and discussions about the prevention of war (hopefully) and wich country will do what in a "major war scenario". 

https://www.rt.com/news/361141-us-nuclear-concern-russia/ An escalation of this conflict-Syria is not the basic conflict-it is about the US being the only super-power or has the US to share the world with (a.o.) Russia and China-proberbly can become a large global conflict. From the South China Sea to Ukraine. Under such circumstances countries like North Korea can become very unpredictable. 

A North Korean missile attack on a US bases in South Korea or Japan can be misinterpreted as a Russian or Chinese attack. An Israeli ( or Saudi) attack on Iranian or Hezbollah forces in Syria or Lebanon could be seen as an US attack. Given the tensions between India and Pakistan things look very "dark" at the moment. 
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Reposting this which was mentioned by Hillary Clinton in the debate last night. It is a reality that Aleppo is a human tragedy and a caualty of the terrible war in Syria. There are no winners when the cost of this conflict are women and children who do not know or understand the neverending bombs which have destroyed their home. If the true horror of such a war is ever brought to American shores perhaps then people will begin to understand. As terrible as 9-11 was and two huge buildings collapsed and thousands died, imagine if all of New York were reduced to rubble as Allepo is. Much like it has been said - if those over 30 were required to go fight in wars - there would be no more wars. We live now in a global economy and cultural planet. Everything effects us - all religions - cultures - races - genders and countries. We must effectively learn to work together to end it - or there will never be peace.

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Russia is to build a nuclear power plant in Turkey, also other energy-investments from Russia in Turkey. Erdogan is looking after Turkish interests-wich will effect the Syria-war. Russia has been talking about the use of Incerlik-airbase for Russian aircraft. https://www.rt.com/news/362285-putin-erdogan-turkey-meeting/ Oil-prices going up is good news for Russia, Gulf states, Venezuela.  http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/18461/Putin-and-Erdogan-sign-Turkish-gas-pipeline-to-Europe-deal

The diplomatic offensive from Russia and Iran towards Turkey can make Turkey giving up support for US backed jihadists in Syria. Also the US may loose the chance to operate inside Syria from Turkey (with aircraft and special forces-in Iraq the US still has a large army presence, also in Jordan and Saudi Arabia eventhough some of the US bases are getting hit by Yemen missiles. https://southfront.org/footage-houthi-missile-hit-saudi-air-base-which-hosts-us-military-personnel/


http://www.voltairenet.org/article193595.html Russo-Egypt army excercises id desert warfare against jihadis (Egypt is facing IS in Sinai and western Egypt. Russia to open an old Soviet Navy base in western Egypt ? https://www.rt.com/news/362243-russia-military-base-egypt/. ) Russia also (with Iran) present in Yemen (in the war with Saudi Arbia/Gulf States (and US). 


https://www.rt.com/op-edge/361915-syria-conflict-russia-china-us/ It is likely China has information gathering in Syria-several thousends of the IS fighters come from western China. (Around 20.000 IS fighters have Russian nationality). China is expected to give medical aid and training to the Syrian Arab Army. It is also very likely China has some sort of Navy-presence in the Eastern mediterrean. On the diplomatic front China may have become a line of communication between the US and Russia. One of the reasons for the US not attacking Russian positions in Syria may have been that China warned for consequences (also from China). 

A major US-led escalation in Syria could mean war with Russia, Iran and China. The EU will not follow the US in such a war. Turkey is doing bussiness with Russia and the Gulf States are loosing the Yemen-war. The US may keep some influence in Iraq, but for Syria at the moment the US did loose that war. 
http://www.voltairenet.org/article193570.html Did Russia shoot down an Israeli drone above Syria ? Did Russia fire "warning shots" at a US Navy ship near Yemen ? (Yemen is close to the (small) link betwee the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean-a major oil-transport route). 


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In addition to the current escalation in Yemen, there is heavy bombing and another serious flash point in Syria.

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-24/oil-gas-war-over-syria-4-maps

The first presents the effort by many countries to eliminate ISIS control over the large Iraqi city of Mosul. A remarkably frank remark made in this map is "An escape corridor into Syria will be left for Daesh [ISIS] so they can vacate Mosul" - an admission that the U.S. - Saudi - Qatari team want the ISIS jihadists who are in Mosul to relocate into Syria to assist the U.S. - Saudi - Qatari effort there to overthrow and replace the Assad government: 


The West, collectively, is a fox in a hen-house, a man who shot his trusting Best Friend in the back, a sociopath and a psychopath, a monster. Its policy is formulated by the puppets of the lobbies which dominate its governments as its media peddles lies to shape public opinion to whitewash its crimes and invent an orge to justify the “us” by manipulating fear of “them”.

That Russia is preparing for war is no secret.

They’ve deployed a fleet toward Syria that, ironically enough, is set to arrive just before the US election. The Russian government held a massive civil defense drill just over a week ago that involved 40 million civilianspreparing for biological, chemical, and nuclear attacks.

Now, Lt. Gen Evgeny Buzhinsky, former head of the Russian ministry of defence’s international treaties department, said that Russia and the US areon the brink of full-on war:

“If we talk about the last Cold War, we are currently somewhere between the erection of the Berlin Wall and the Cuban Missile crisisIn other words, teetering on the brink of war, but without the mechanisms to manage the confrontation.”

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