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Iran-Saudi Arabia

"press/propaganda-outlets":https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/15/technology/saudi-arabia-hacks-cyberattacks.html and http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/12/21/cyber-attack-targets-safety-system-at-saudi-aramco/ (why the nytimes now is supposed to be news-in december 2017 fp had a same story-claiming Iran/Russia behind a cyberattack at Saudi Aramco)-DJ More "grounds" for war with Russia and Iran ? 

UK-Russia

"Russia started-so now we have to have chemical weapons also"
https://southfront.org/skripal-poisoning-british-provcation/ (DJ-even at defcon some have doubts https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=11646&start=10 DJ-the point that WHEN Russia would have done this attack it was meant to send a message may have some relevence.

Syria

https://southfront.org/white-helmets-accuse-assad-regime-using-chlorine-gas-eastern-ghouta-msm-repeats/ "white helmets=alquada "aid/MI6"-mix making another story western "media" may use-"politicians" can use "to protect Syrians from their government".

Iran-Turkey-Azerbaijan-Georgia cooperation

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There is no REASONABLE doubt that either Russia, or a breakaway faction within Russia organised the Skripal attack.  Either way the buck sill stops with Putin.  Everyone across the West knows this and Russia knows we all know.

Where diffrences arise is what to do next.  Using a chemical weapon, outside wartime, that can only come from the chemical labs of an industrialised country, that is used against international treaties and provably so, is a fantastically bold move.  To us, it looks as if Russia is treating us with absolute contempt.  I would not know what the next move should be, but it must be brave and strong or Russia will just laugh louder. 

Chamberlain taught us where appeasement gets you.
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Technophobe, there is disagreement on who is the agressor so also were appeasement is coming from. 

The UK is in a Brexit-crisis. The European Medical Agency https://www.ft.com/content/4abde47b-1b6c-32e9-95cb-db363013b74e is moving from London to Amsterdam. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/mar/15/unilever-brexit-rotterdam-hq-london Unilever did have two HQ's (just like Shell) Londen and Rotterdam. (Shell has a HQ in The Hague https://www.shell.com/about-us/contact-us.html#iframe=L2Zvcm1zL2VuX2NvbnRhY3RfdXM=).Unilever closing its London HQ (and maybe Shell doing the same soon) must be a nightmare for Theresa May.

In my opinion the present-cold war-crisis is between the "old" west (US, EU, Australia, Japan) and a "new"east (Russia-China-New Silk Road). 

The present crisis-just before sunday's Russia presidential election is organised (by the west) on-at best-weak claims of Russia making Trump win the US election, causing Brexit etc. Also the chemical weapons claims in Syria-now (a new case) in the UK are not very strong. (The used poison is not only available for Russia, Russia did not have a clear reason to kill this former double agent.)

NATO did move east, NATO countries invaded Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan-were behind the Ukraine coup. 

Let me be clear though-IF Russia was murdering people somewere in Europe for its own reasons it is an act of agression. Just like the US picking up people from EU streets because they believe the person to be a terrorist (a person with the "wrong" name-his name was also on a wanted-list-ended up in Guantanomo. ) The US deploying its Delta force without permission in Italy (then this force around a hijacked airplane in Sicily was surrounded by Italian special forces) etc.

Referring to history-https://www.amazon.com/I-Paid-Hitler-Fritz-Thyssen/dp/B0006APEIW Hitler worked for UK-French intelligence under German veterans after w.w.1. The nazi-party got financed by German and western "elite" (from Henry Ford, the Bush family, to several European royals-most with German family in leading positions in Germany even during the war).

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I was making a post-getting kicked out ? "internetproblems"?

Syria

Chinese Uyghurs fighting with pro-Turkish groups against the Kurds



DJ-It looks like "the west"is preparing for "action" on several fronts in Syria to push back Russia and Iran.

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https://www.rt.com/uk/421442-jeremy-corbyn-russia-skripal/ DJ-When asking questions become a crime democracy ends.

Putin

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DJ-It starts to look like preparations are being made for major NATO intervention in Syria (against Russia-risk of major escalation-"west" shooting missiles-Russia bringing missiles down--further escalation.)http://theduran.com/nato-uses-uk-poisoning-hoax-to-push-for-conflict-with-russia-video/

+++ Info still unconfirmed +++ RUSSIA SHIPS ROCKETS AND WARSHIPS TO SYRIA - AFTER THE USA PREPARES ATTACK ON SYRIA +++

The info is still unconfirmed and is not commented by the Russian army. Some Russian media report that Russia is increasing its Syria contingent after the US constricts its warships and submarines (with cruise missiles) in the Mediterranean, despite the Russian warning that the Russian army will respond to a US attack. Accordingly, the US and some "allies" are preparing a massive attack on Syria - from the Mediterranean, as well as from Cyprus, Iraq and Jordan.

According to the US threat of attack, Russia increased its number of warships off the Syrian coast from 15 to 20. The two Russian frigates "Admiral Essen" and "Admiral Grigorovich" were armed with "caliber" cruise missiles. The two landing ships "Orsk" and "Minsk" were also laid, each carrying up to 400 Marine Special Forces soldiers (special forces) or 45 infantry combat vehicles. Turkish media claims there were up to 1,000 Russian marines on it when they passed the Bosphorus the day before yesterday. The Russian submarine hunter frigate "Pytlivyj" is off the coast of Syria today, along with several Russian submarines, the exact number of which is unknown.

In addition, there is also the transfer of about 20-30 other Russian fighter jets Su-30CM and air superiority fighter Su-35, along with 2 to 3 of the latest (not yet in service) fighter jets Su-57 ("T-50"). Released in the last two days and other air defense complexes S-400, and coastal defense missiles K-300 "Bastion" (up to 600 km range), so the unconfirmed infos.

http://www.newsli.ru/news/world/politika/28776

Addition: France ready to attack syria with the US


Chief of the French General Staff, Francois Lecointre, has confirmed to the French radio station Europe-1 that France is ready to attack the sovereign Syria together with the USA and to destroy all bases with "chemical weapons" and "camps". France would take "the right" and intervene in Syria.

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"west"/NATO -Russia/China/Russian presidential elections mix with false claims

DJ The goal is to influence Russian elections-could work for the opposite-give Putin more support. Claims on cyberattacks are always hard to proof. At the moment US/NATO is trying to tell the world they are the boss. Both Russia and China see that in an other way.

https://www.rt.com/usa/421553-mattis-us-aid-saudi-yemen/ US support for Suadi Arabia reduces casualties
There is not any proof of Russia being behind a chemical attack on a former spy

Since the west does want to get rid of Putin-from defcon https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=11662&start=20two posts:

CuriousWatcher wrote: 
Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:14 pm
So far I'm not seeing any western media sources confirming U.S. preparations for an attack on Damascus. Though it certainly seems from General Mattis remarks that there is concern about the possibility of ongoing chemical attacks. The rhetoric around this on both sides is concerning but thus far I can't really pin anything concrete about it down. Could it be an attempt to shift attention away from the poisoning issue in the UK?
well i can't say that for sure but i kinda doubt it. As far as i am informed, russia asked the UK for a sample of the used poison to analyze it but UK refused to give it. So this may be just a unproven claim that russia had actually to do with it. I guess we need to wait and see what the future brings. 
As i mentioned in my earlier posts, just keep an eye on this strange situation for now. Noone knows what russia may be up to. I will dig and wait for news on the current events and try to keep this topic up to date with news. Also, this is not for RU - UK relations but for RU - US ones.

A litte though by me:
Russia is said to want to kill an ex-agent whom Russia had imprisoned for years and who could have eliminated it much more inconspicuously.
Russia uses a poison that is ONLY available in Russia and is excellently detectable, leaving a thick, fat neon-faded fingerprint as a "claimant" at the scene.
Moreover, Russia is too stupid to kill the target and pulls in 20 more bystanders.
But the most important point: Russia does not do that at some point, no! But quite by chance shortly before the presidential election and the FIFA World Cup in their own country to get the most attention possible.
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 Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:12 pm

France Foreign Ministry tells reportes to stop all travel to Syria; head of French army, Francois Lecointre, says French army ready to act if needed - Reuters
  • Paris frustrated with Moscow's failure to push the implementation of the U.N.-backed truce
  • Upsurge in violnce in eastern Ghouta and Afrin prompts Foreign Ministry to say "we would be grateful if you would give up any plans to go to this country or to send reporters”
  • Francois Lacointre said that the French army is ready to act, but "it would probably be in coordination with the Americans"
  • Macron states that he would not accept "failures to open humanitarian corridors in Syria" nor "the use of chemical weapons". Said both are "red lines"
French military has means to intervene in Syria - Anadolu Agency
  • France has necessary resources to carry out military interventions in Syria; with or without the US
  • Macron states that they will do so if "irrefutable evidence" of chemical strikes on civilians is found
  • They can do it independently but "it has to show solidarity with a strategic essential ally, we share the same vision....about the situation in Syria"
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Turkey

https://turkey.liveuamap.com/en/2018/16-march-president-erdoan-holds-phone-conversations-with NATO chief and Poroshenko Ukraine. DJ-Turkey is a factor on its own in the Middle East/Asia/Europe/Africa. Erdogan seems to be looking for a neo-Ottoman empire. When Russia, Iran can help they are welcome, when IS can help https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/literally-hundreds-of-ex-isis-fighters-now-serve-with-turkey-led-forces-in-afrin-picture-evidence/ by renaming them-becoming part of "moderate rebels" like SDF-no problem. The US/NATO did everything they could to assist Turkey against the Kurds inside Turkey. In the past Turkey also worked with Israel, there is a Turkish minority in Ukraine/Crimea. 
DJ-Turkey still is in NATO, Erdogan still welcomes billions of EU€ to "take care of refugees". Is Erdogan part of a plan for attack on Syria (or with Ukraine/others even Russia) ?

UK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l9Gk38pvGc Israeli News Live-after the collapse of the Soviet Union the US did help Uzbekistan to deal with Soviet-chemical weapons. Western powers were in control of Novichok nerve gas since 1999. http://theduran.com/strange-case-russian-spy-poisoning/-why do so now ? (DJ-When asking questions becomes a crime democracy ends. The former spy was NOT murdered (yet), a "only Russia made" weapon was used against him just for the Russian elections. Why would Putin do so-and in this way ?Why exclude all other scenario's (just like MH-17 flight/mass murder-when there would be a claim the "Vagner Private Military Contractors did it-they have the knowledge. But that is not the western version)

Results of US "invasion

http://thesaker.is/what-results-when-u-s-invades-a-country/ The US/NATO destroyed Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan-was Syria next ?
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NATO-Russia

The provocations will be used as a pretext by the United States and its allies to launch strikes on military and government infrastructure in Syria,” the official stated.

“We’re registering the signs of the preparations for the possible strikes. Strike groups of the cruise missile carriers have been formed in the east of the Mediterranean Sea, Persian Gulf and Red Sea.”


https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2018-03-16/nato-expansion-what-yeltsin-heard After the end of the Soviet Union Boris Yeltsin believed NATO wanted to include working with Russia.



http://www.voltairenet.org/article200163.html Who are the "moderate rebels"in East Ghouta

The US tells Russia not to sell weapons without US permission

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/17/555734/Russia-UK-spy-poisoning UK tells 23 Russians to leave so Russia does the same.

DJ-I think a main goal is to get rid of Putin. Tomorrow-sunday-Russia will have presidential elections. The Russian involvement in Syria is not very popular in Russia.
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The United States appears to be preparing a very large strike upon Syria.  U.S. Navy Guided Missile Cruisers and Destroyers have been formed into strike groups in the eastern Mediterranean Sea, in the Red Sea and in the Persian Gulf.

Worse: Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) reports US forces have trained terrorists in Syria’s southern de-escalation zone to use chemical weapons and are preparing a false flag attack, 20 tons of chlorine has been delivered to them.

RUSSIAN FM SERGEY LAVROV: THE US, THE UK AND FRANCE ARE NOT FIGHTING SYRIA BY PROXY. US, BRITISH, AND FRENCH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCES ARE ON THE GROUND IN SYRIA DIRECTLY ENGAGING THE SYRIAN ARMY

 

Editor's Note: This has "DISASTER" written all over it.

More details as they become available. Please check back. . .

 

UPDATE 12:04 PM EDT --

France's foreign ministry tells reporters to stop all travel to Syria

 

DANGER:  Russia has now said that unlike the last time, they will respond with military force and not only shoot down the missiles, but destroy whatever shot them.

That right there will change everything in an instant if that happens. WWIII WILL kick off, no going back once Russian forces directly attack U.S. forces.

When that happens, it will be on like Donkey Kong.

Satellite images show the USS Theodore Roosevelt strike group in the Persian Gulf 


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Syria

East Ghouta
https://southfront.org/syrian-president-visits-frontlines-east-ghouta-meets-saa-soldiers-displaced-civilians-videos-photos/ and http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/18/555867/Assad-Eastern-Ghouta-troops DJ-Maybe in reaction to western pressure Assad showing up-with what may be partly Russian bodyguards-can be as a sign of Assad not giving in. https://www.rt.com/news/421616-eastern-ghouta-exodus-/ (DJ-Most Syrian refugees live inside Syria under pro-Assad rule. ) http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/18-march-bashar-alassad-near-the-frontlines-of-eastern-ghouta-picture taken by Asma al Assad-wife of Assad

Afrin
https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/18-march-asked-where-the-next-target-is-after-taking-over-(pro)Turkish military-making gray wolf sign-after Afrin Manbij, Kirkuk, Mosul, Aleppo (DJ-Indicating neo-Ottoman ideas)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jpkMn3mvF8 Israeli News Live (Turkey plans genocide on Kurds?)

Korea


Israel


Russian elections



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Korea

Xi invited Kim-China continues cooperation with (North)Korea. Hints at Moon-Putin-Plan. Korea one state-two systems with China/Russia investments ?

https://www.debka.com/israel-opts-out-of-us-eu-anti-russian-expulsions-its-intelligence-finds-novichik-stocks-in-20-countries/ DJ The Novichik-lies will backfire on T.may. Russian diplomats likely to be replaced/return. Russia will react-western countries can have the same amount of diplomats in Russia as Russia can have in the western country.

Syria

https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/27-march-hezbollah-leader-claims-saudi-offered-to-cut-off Saudi Arabia willing to stop aid to "rebels"when Syria stops cooperation with Iran. (DJ-The "rebels"are as good as beaten. Assad depending on Russia/Iran-can and will not stop that support.)

Iran

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/ap-sells-anti-iranian-lobbying-firm-as-independent-watchdog-group.html Basicly since some road-bombs in Yemen and Syria use Chinese wiring Iran has to be behind it. Just like to novichik-story complete insanity paid for by UK taxpayers. 

DJ-My impression is that the Russian message was very clear. An attack on Syria would be dealt with as if it was an attack on Russia. Most likely that goes for Iran as well. China will not accept (for now) any attack on North Korea. A new "balance of power" may be growing. This does not mean peace-still maybe limit the chance of a major conflict.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-29/you-know-us-losing-were-willing-talk and https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-29/trump-were-coming-out-syria-very-soon-others-can-take-care-it-now

DJ-At the end of the Viet Nam war the US left South Viet Nam to do the fighting. De facto admitting the strategy did fail. In Syria-at several points in time-the US was ready-with (a.o.) Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Israel to intervene/invade. Most likely one of the reasons the US did not invade was fear for another Viet Nam, Iraq-scenario. DJ-I do not rule out the possibility of Russia, Iran, China demonstrating they could take over control of US weapons. They have been working hard on it-to take over drones etc. Also the story of a US Navy ship in the Black Sea were electricity was stopped-possibly by Russia may have soom truth. https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/03/27/russia-game-changing-weapons-that-were-not-mentioned-in-putin-speech.html


DJ-Turkey, Hamas, other "parties" are not "in control" wich could give escalations. Israel testing F35's in Iran airspace gives a lot of info on Iran (Russia) airdefense. 

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/elijah-magnier-how-syria-challenges-the-unipolar-order.html DJ-In my view "the west"simply had to accept the end of the unipolar-order. They do not like it, some countries may have to find a way to deal with it. Some "leaders" would like to go to war for it-the main reason we are NOT in world war 3 is that "the west" may loose this confrontation before it even realy started. (By cyber/electronic war, hyperweapons mach5+=6000km/4000m-per hour+)

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/she-is-risen-last-act-of-novichok-drama-revealed-the-skripals-resurrection.html DJ-The western "media/politicians" insanity is shocking. Since the short-term "war"strategy is not working-"the west"may go for demonizing Putin, China, Iran, Venezuela, North Korea etc. De facto "the east" will start spreading their influence from Northstream-2 (Russia-German pipeline) to "peacekeeping"in Afghanistan, Iraq. (Expect Trump to "reduce US forces" there as well. DJ-The only group that is winning by the US staying in the Middle East is oil/weapon-elite making money out of war.) https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/03/25/how-military-controls-america.html
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May is mad-and she is not the only one !

http://theduran.com/furious-china-ramps-support-russia-skripal/ DJ-The UK, NATO, EU and some other countries transferred a possible case of food-poisening into an international crisis. Of course this will have consequences !

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-30/xi-jinping-and-kim-jong-un-make-korea-united-again DJ-Since most countries are "not western" the level of insanity produced by the west is making those other countries loking for a better alternative. Korean unification is coming insight-with North Korea willing to give up its nuclear weapons when the US is willing to leave South Korea-South Korea, PM Moon-can choose between a tradewar with the US and tradedeal with Russia and China. 


When the "west" has https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/03/31/dangerous-combination-bolton-and-boris.html to deal with foreign affairs-after the illegal wars against Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya can anyone seriously believe "the west" is "leading the globe in a good direction"?

https://www.rt.com/business/422838-petro-yuan-dollar-gaddafi/ DJ-Gaddafi (the father) got murdered because he wanted to trade oil not for US$ (but an all African currency to fight poverty). (Gaddafi the son may become the next Libya president-no doubt backed by Russia, China etc.)

DJ-China is tired of western insults and-already working with Russia, Iran, Pakistan. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-venezuela-china/china-rebuffs-u-s-criticism-of-relations-with-oil-rich-venezuela-idUSKBN1FP0ZF and http://www.africanews.com/2017/05/04/china-becomes-single-largest-contributor-of-africa-s-fdi-report/. The present level of western stupidity is pushing the rest of the globe away from the west. 

We deserve better leaders than this group of warmongers !
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The US backed, Kurdish-led, "SDF" was controling also large area's with non-Kurdish inhabitants. (DJ-The Kurds only were a small minority in Syria. From the Kurdish perspective "Kurdistan" is for the Kurds. No borders defined-means some Arabs had to make way for Kurds. A lot of the Kurds in Syria may come from Turkey and Iraq.)

The US: 1 Does not want more US forces getting killed in Syria, certainly not by another NATO-member; Turkey. When forced to make a choice the US has to drop the Kurds for Turkey/NATO. Turkey is essential for the US to keep a finger in the Middle East. (There have been reports of the US building a large base in Saudi Arabia (a.o. Debka reported it)-to replace US bases in Turkey and Qatar. In my opinion the US is likely to replace "strategic weapons"(a.o. nuclear) to that Saudi base-but the Qatar,Turkey bases will remain US bases).
2 https://southfront.org/turksih-media-says-french-troops-deployed-at-5-military-bases-in-northern-syria/ France, UK, Turkey want to take over control of East Syria oilfields. The US may have reached some kind of deal with Turkey as well. (There were some reporst of US forces moving out of East Syria-the US centcom claims that was "normal logistics")

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/31/557039/Russia-Syria-oil-arms-terrorists-Nusra-Daesh-Eastern-Ghouta Russia "rebels"still getting lots of weapons-rebel oiltrade as good as stopped.

(DJ-There are some-very unlikely-reports of pro-Assad forces preparing action in East-Syria. Most likely Russia wants to find a diplomatic solution in talks with the Kurds. After Turkey took over Afrin the Kurds in East Syria-a minority in a large part of the area-not only face Turkey moving in from the north, uprisings of the Arab population is another risk, (pro)Iran forces moving in, logistics getting more difficult. The US seems te be rearming/renaming IS fighters. For the Kurds making a deal with Assad may be the best option when US support stops.)

Iraq

https://southfront.org/turkey-expands-its-ground-operations-against-pkk-in-northern-iraq-reports/ and https://iraq.liveuamap.com/en/2018/31-march-turkish-army-says-the-operation-to-clean-pkk-from DJ-Since the-almost civil-war against the Kurds inside Turkey is about getting control over flow of money (a.o. from the EU) and weapons/fighters Turkey want to take over control of borderarea's under Kurdish control both in Syria and Iraq. (DJ-Turkey and Iran may have an agreement on Kurdish seperatism-Iran also has a large Kurdish minority of up to 8 milion.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds_in_Iran and https://kurds.liveuamap.com/ ).

Petro-Yuan

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-31/china-plans-pay-oil-imports-yuan-instead-dollars DJ China has replaced the US as #1 buyer of oil in the global market. Although not directly visible in the Middle East wars China is the major player behind the scenes. (DJ-Due to Fracking the US has become the #1 oil producer with Saudi Arabia #2, Russia #3. Both Saudi Arabia and Russia are willing to make deals with China outside the US-petro-$, oil-for-goods often).

DJ-China gave Venezuela "loans (in US$) for oil", Angola is accepting Yuan. Malaysia, Indonesia, several Arab/African countries are "happy to spread the risks" by doing some of the energy-deals outside the US$ system. 

How this will effect the US economy is mainly depending on how the US deals with this situation. (in the past countries that dumped the US$ for energytrade ware invaded. The US most likely will not start a war with China (and thereby all the China-partners, Russia, Iran etc.). I-DJ-understand the US need for better tradebalances. Trump his urge for reopening all kind of trade-deals is logical. Starting tradewars is stupid !

It would be in the best US interest to slow the Petro-yuan-but the US can not stop it.

UK

The "Russia tried to kill a former agent and his (visiting from Russia) daughter" story proberbly has to do with the UK-Brexit-problems and T.may's lack of support in even her own party. The UK cabinet most likely will switch to the "silence mode" "not to hinder further investigations", maybe even "privacy"as excuses. I-DJ-expect T.may not to be the UK PM by the end of the year. 

DJ-The EU, NATO, etc did-for the public eye-give support to the UK. Most likely behind closed doors the picture may be "very different". A "hard"Brexit may be on its way. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/brexit-negotiations-tracker/
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Financial War 

DJ-The outcome of sanctions; Turkey instead of EU selling fruits and vegetables to Russia, Petroyuan, integration of Russia-Iran-China as a motor for one EurAsian market.

T-N-exit ?

https://southfront.org/towards-nato-exit-shift-structure-military-coalitions-turkeys-alliance-russia-china-iran/ Turkey leaving NATO (with Russia/China protection) could be a next step. 

Gaza

DJ-Hamas-in my opinion-is a terrorist organization. Some Gaza-Palestinians may have connections with Sinaï IS. Still as the video's show the use of deadly force against these demonstrators was disproportional. There is no need to kill demonstrators that are over 10 meters away from a border with gates, ditches etc. Even when those demonstrators would reach the borderline they would not be able to get across it. Teargas, rubber bullets, etc. would be enough for crowd control. The west not seriously protesting is another shame !
(DJ-The UK poisoningcase-in wich several countries took diplomatic steps-has made familymembers of the MH17 massmurder ask why those steps were not taken after the downing of the MH17 flight over East Ukraine. The west keeps claiming Russia did it-but no diplomat was send home while 298 innocent people were killed. In the UK case nobody got killed-it may even have been foodpoisoning-but the west overreacts.)

Syria

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrian-pro-govt-forces-claim-us-base-attacked-in-raqqa/ DJ-The Arab population now under Kurdish control-with US support-are getting tired of being occupied. (DJ-Again; the Kurds in Syria are a small minority living near the Turkey border. Bringing all of Arab East Syria under Kurdish control is asking for problems. https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201804021063130081-iraq-operation-syria-abadi/ (DJ-Such an Iraqi operation would be in East Syria were the US is protecting/renaming IS groups.)
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East-West relations

http://theduran.com/heres-why-the-us-failed-to-save-the-jihadis-in-east-ghouta/ DJ-The US did not intervene in Syria because Russia (DJ-and China, Iran-most likely others) would start a war if the US/NATO attacked pro-Assad forces in Syria. But that lesson means the US is no longer in control.


DJ-The picture I am getting is that Saudi Arabia is paying the US (or Trump ?) to keep forces in Syria. The official story is "to fight IS" only that is not what the US has been doing the last months !

UK-Russia

DJ-When there is not any proof of a chemical weapon being used (by anybody) how insane are governments, media, to create these kind of massive lies ? 

Again East-West relations

http://theduran.com/russian-envoy-to-nato-you-crossed-red-line-with-military-build-up/, http://theduran.com/china-retaliates-to-us-retaliation-to-china-retaliation-to-us-tariffs/, http://theduran.com/chinese-defense-minister-wants-to-show-america-how-close-china-and-russia-are-in-military-cooperation/. DJ-Putin must be very gratefull to the "west" pushing China, Iran, Korea, Iraq, Libya, Egypt, etc. on the Russian side. https://sputniknews.com/military/201804051063241037-syrian-army-finds-weapons-stockpile-in-deir-ez-zor/ and http://theduran.com/saudi-crown-prince-mbs-comes-clean-saudi-nationals-have-funded-terrorist-groups/ IS and other "rebels" were armed and paid by the west, Israel and Gulf States. http://theduran.com/putin-isis-remains-a-global-threat-despite-military-defeat-in-syria/ At the end Russia and China were the IS targets. 

The outcome is that even more money is spend on another insane armsrace, cold war. Instead of education, housing, healthcare, climate change "we" as citizens end up paying tax for destruction not solutions.

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Skripal scarlet fever ?

On the Skripal-story http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/2313-british-experts-unable-to-identify-precise-source-of-novichok-that-poisoned-spy-but-continue-to-blame-russia



Since the Skripals are Russian they may react different on both the scarlet fever infection, complications and treatment. It may be misinterpreted as a chemical attack ?
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Yes, of course, scarlet fever has no incubation period (the policeman) and leaves traces on furniture which then test positive for a nerve agent (table).

Seriously though, we do have scarlet fever, which is a regular occurence every year, but that makes it easy to spot.  It is a bacterial disease and so is both culturable and visible with an optical microscope.  I know we also have a Boris Jonston, but he is neither as stupid as he appears, nor tyical of British intellect.

As to Blaming Russia, our Prime minister managed to convince a large swathe of leaders from other countries of Russia's involvemet.  They can't all be nuts.  Making novichoc agents is a complicated and technical thing.  That reduces the chances of it being other than the product of a large country with (now or in the past) a history of WMD production.  I suspect it was actually a break-away faction within Russia rather than Putin's instruction.  But, the buck still stops with the boss even when his underlings missbehave.  It was an unfortunate coincidence that Russia boasted of its murder of double agents at the same time.

Finally, Russia is clearly behind the chemical weapons Assad's forces are using on his own people  (Once again the effects of sarin and sabin differ from chlorine and the rebels do not have sufficient ability to make anything but the latter.  They also have no reason to use them on their own people.)  so Russia has a proven track record of chemical weapons use.

Overall, I know we are fed a steady diet of propaganda, but I still remain convinced this came from Russia.  The only bit I remain unsure of, is the precise source within Russia.

Scarlet fever indeed!
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Ps.  Russians and Western Europeans are fairly closely related.  Their history with scarlet fever is similar to ours.  Native Americans and Australian Aborigines suffer the same symptoms as we do and they are from previously isolated communities, unlike Russians.

Oh, and annother thing, Russia has a history of murdering its double agents, Litvinenco's polonium and the poison pellet of ricin come immediately to mind.

There is one point of obscurity.  Russia's revenge attacks are usually fatal.  Why not this time?
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