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https://www.debka.com/palestinian-gunman-shoots-dead-4-israelis-har-adar/

https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2017/26-september-fares-shehabi-government-mp-for-aleppo-on-how How can US backed SDF move over 50 kilometer via IS territory without a fight ? 


https://www.rt.com/news/404589-russian-airstrikes-idlib-terrorists/ When the Syrian army reached Deir el Zur (with Russian-Iran-Hezbollah aid) "moderate al nusra (=al quada) rebels" attacked the Syrian army. Russian airstrikes stopped these (US coordinated) attacks. 

DJ; more or less a news black out. But escalation may be in full swing. 
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-27/maduro-generals-prepare-war-criminal-empire-us

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DJ; the basic-maybe 200 year old conflict is about the US moving west, Russia and China moving east. Russian America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_America became "Alaska"(a.o.).
NATO moved east after the end of the Soviet Union, even into Afghanistan close to the Russia/China borders. Syria/Iraq is just the latest-Korean conflict is over a 100 years old (Japan took Korea in 1910

NApolean moved into Russia, the NAzi's did, now NAto want another war...

Only talks can end the conflicts-the "military solution" may kill us all.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndD1kmY8_oI Israeli News Live-with links

Articles like http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/u-s-national-news/1343-very-bad-news-i-m-sorry-to-have-to-deliver-this and http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-30/truth-about-nuclear-proliferation-and-north-korea show a total inability of the US to understand the problem. North Korea has to give up something, the US can keep making threats-stay in South Korea. 

In Syria https://syria.liveuamap.com/ the US is blocking an offensive of the Assad-government forces to the eastern part of Syria. The US is again accused of transporting IS fighters to fight against the Assad fighters, renaming tribes that were part of IS as SDF-taking over parts of eastern Syria from IS without a fight. 

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/09/by-the-grace-of-israel-the-barzani-clan-and-kurdish-independence.html#more The Kurdish question created a big gap between the US and Turkey. Kurdish leaders know they have to do a balancing act-Turkey, Iraq, Iran and now Syria do not want a "Kurdish State", the US want to use the Kurds to do the US dirty work. The US in history can be held responsible for (support of) genocide on the Kurds (by selling weapons to Turkey, Iraq, Iran under the Shah). The best chances for the Kurds are in talks with regional governments for a form of self-rule inside other countries. Oil is a curse for the Kurds-the US is NOT their friend, Russia may be a better bet loking at history. 

https://www.rt.com/news/405185-hezbollah-kurdistan-region-partition/ The US want the SDF to take over eastern Syria and start there own anti-Assad, anti-Iran state. Russia can not allow that to happen. The outcome could be that Syrian Arab Army (Assad) , with Hezbollah, PMU-Iraq (pro-Iran), Iran and Russia will attack SDF after the war with IS or if the SDF hinders the Assad-offensive to much. Turkey  (still a NATO-member) could start shooting at US planes in an operation-with Iran-against Kurds.

For North Korea-Rex Tillerson was in China to see their point of view-room to move. Russia and China see the US position on North Korea also as an anti Russia-China action. 

The US is west of Russia in the Baltics, Ukraine, south-west of Russia and China in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan. India would not have problems with China without US support-the South China Sea is a US-China problem, and then to the east North Korea ? The US is NOT the agressor ? 

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https://www.rt.com/on-air/405177-barcelona-poll-referendum-catalonia/ After Catalunya, Bretagne https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittany wants to have a referendum. The Basks, Corsica, Sardegna, Frisians, etc. etc. etc. are next. 

You can have a Kurdish, Scottish referendum. You need a framework to deal with smaller "old nations" that want a form of self-rule. 

From (south) Dakota to Chechnia central governments fall back to repression-proberbly creating more conflicts. 

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https://southfront.org/us-led-coalition-strikes-hezbollah-fighters-combating-isis-in-syrian-desert-reports/ and https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2017/2-october-east-syria-2-hezbollah-commanders-killed-on-road 



DJ; Israel prefered IS above Iran at the Israeli borders. Nethanyahu-Isr.P.M. would like more (US) action against Iran. For Saudi Arabia the Yemen war (against Iran) is a total disaster. In Syria the US is trying to stop Russian-Iranian influence (by supporting/assisting/airlifting IS https://www.rt.com/op-edge/404438-us-hardware-terrorists-syria/ while claiming they are fighting IS). 

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In Syria the main goal for both the US and Israel is to limit influence of Iran, regime-change in Damascus. https://www.rt.com/news/405588-lavrov-us-syria-provocations-russia/. The US is cooperating with IS for those goals. https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2017/3-october-israeli-defense-minister-lieberman-asks-us-involvement Israel now also considers Turkey as an enemy. 

https://www.globalresearch.ca/shift-in-geopolitical-alliances/5611373 Turkey is buying S400 missiles from Russia, works with Iran against US backed Kurds in Syria. Qatar-main US base-is working with Iran. China and Russia main investors in oil and gas. Pakistan working with Iran and China. The Shanghai Cooperation Organization has welcomed India and Pakistan, will welcome Turkey and Iran, Afghanistan. (May be a tool to get influence on North Korea DJ ?)

https://www.rt.com/news/405591-spanish-police-hotel-evictions-catalonia/ Both the EU and the US do not know how to deal with the Catalunya-crisis-making things worse. Silence is not an answer here. 


Russian President Vladimir Putin will meet the king of Saudi Arabia, Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, on Thursday to discuss the situation in the Middle East and North Africa, the Kremlin press service said on Tuesday. The meeting will focus on untangling the ongoing conflicts in the regions, as well as on various aspects of cooperation between Russia and Saudi Arabia. Several documents are expected to be signed during the meeting.

Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro will visit Moscow on Wednesday to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin and participate in the ‘Russian energy week forum,’ the Kremlin press service said Tuesday. The leaders are set to discuss the development of the strategic partnership between the two states and exchange opinions on international and regional politics.

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https://www.rt.com/news/406556-iran-us-nuclear-chaos/, https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/10/12/mogherini-endorses-vts-editorial-position-that-trumps-breaking-the-jcpoa-will-isolate-us/


DJ; US plans to get out of the UNSC-deal with Iran, after the US getting out of UNESCO, the Paris-climate treaty, is damaging the US. Even the UK does want to continu the Iran-nuclear deal !


When the US is sabotaging a nuclear deal with Iran-how does the US expect North Korea to take talks with the US serious ? The way out of the North Korea-crisis will be Russia and China leading negotiations with North- and Southh-Korea. Offering benefits from co-operating in the new Russian-Iranian-Chinese global system. With US stopping support of the Iran-treaty the EU gets pushed further towards "the east". 

Turkey and Iraq may be starting an offensive against the Kurds. The Kurds depended to much-to long on US (and Israel) support to fight Assad in Syria. https://www.rt.com/news/406552-turkey-russsia-s400-s500/ Turkey has now joined Russia and Iran-to a limit-against the Kurds. When Turkey has a choice between a Kurdish state at its borders or Assad-Turkey goes for Assad (while the US supports the Kurds for the time beeing). 

Saudi Arabia=oil. With the EU using less fossil fuels China is the intersting market. The US has proven-even for Saudi Arabia-not to be reliable. Russian and Saudi oil-interests may coincide. The China-Pakistan-Economic-Cooperation makes clear for Riyad were the futere interests are; Asia. 

I do not think it is fair to put all the blame on the failing US foreign policy on Trump. The US made wrong decisions since the fall of the Soviet Union (by moving NATO to the Russian borders, blind support for Israel, The Ukraine-coup (against even the EU !). But Trump is doing everything to make the disaster even larger.


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https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=10936 CIA; NK months away of ability to strike US. 

DJ; There are many sides to any major conflict.
-The open side, politicians talking, propaganda
-the "not-open"side; gathering information spreading disinformation, military preparation.

My impression on North Korea is that;
-The US President Trump wants (some form of) military action.
-Both military and political leaders in the US are (mostly) against such action.
-Russia and China have warned the US against any military action against NK-and NK against military action against the US.
-Russia and China are working on a political solution wich would include (both) Korea('s) in an economic cooperation like SCO/de-militarization.
-The Russian/China plan is not very welcome for the US because the US would have to decrease influence in South Korea (and thereby Japan).
-The basic conflict is NOT over North Korea but another Us-China/Russia conflict.
-Therefor an attack by the US on North Korea will be seen by Russia and China as an attack on them.
-Russia and China will do (almost) all they can to limit any military conflict-including shooting down missiles/planes/drones from both the US and North Korea that might be involved in military action against eachother.
-International support for major US actions against North Korea is very limited.
-Because of the "political"situation in the US Trump could be persuaded to take action.

In 1960 the US/Kennedy was thinking of attacking China for their nuclear program-in stead of a direct attack the US went for "consolidation" in Viet Nam.
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Starting wars to cover things up is so common we have a term for it, DJ. We call it:  "The Tail Wagging The Dog."  It is usually a sex scandal (hence the 'tail') but this latest one is quite inventive in finding new scandals to devise.
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http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/assassinating-kim-jung-wrong-171020080046237.html

Several reasons why "killing Kim" may be not the best idea. DJ; I think the last reason in the article-even when Kim is dead the NK military still would go to full scale war is proberbly the best reason. Besides that from China/Russia perspective the US has no need to kill Kim. They want to still talk with both North and South Korea on a lot of military issues. 
https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/921554906510712837 Growing concern, is the US ordering people to leave South Korea ? Or is it part of a drill ? 

Former German Prime-Minister Gerhard Schroeder-now working for Russian Gas exporters; https://www.rt.com/business/407317-us-economic-war-schroeder/ 

Another look at history; China got their first nuclear bomb in 1964. But the program was on its way in 1960 (first with Soviet help). The US-Kennedy wanted to stop China. Since a direct confrontation via Taiwan (or the Soviet Union-they had a short war in 1969 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_split and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_border_conflict) did not work the US did put missiles in Italy and Turkey. The Soviet Union did put then missiles on Cuba https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis

During the 1967 six-day-war Israel had a nuclear bomb as "last resort".http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-nuclear-bomb-six-day-war-sinai-egypt-use-weapon-syria-jordan-iraq-a7774921.html (France did provide Israel with "the bomb"after the 1956 Seuz-crisis https://www.thenational.ae/opinion/who-gave-israel-a-nuclear-bomb-1.10355 France did sell Iraq a nuclear reactor in 1976-wich Israel bombed in 1981-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Opera)

The Iraq story may indicate that military action can prevent a country from getting a nuclear weapon. But looking at more info-Iraq was very far from getting a bomb-NK is NOT Iraq 1981-military options to stop countries from getting a nuclear weapon are limited. South Africa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction dismantled its six nuclear weapons before the ANC came to power. Zaire-under Mobutu had a programm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_Center_for_Nuclear_Studies with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OTRAG wich moved to Libya under French/Soviet pressure. https://fas.org/nuke/guide/libya/index.html Libya tried to buy a nuclear reactor in 1984 from Belgium-when the Soviet Union hesitated-later on the Soviet Union started some construction for a nuclear reactor in Libya-Surt(e). But the Soviet-Libyan plans never were completed (a.o. because of the collapse of the Soviet Union).
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(it's looking to me that Trump is getting ready to strike NK first....this is more than a "show of sea and air power.  Watch for it.)

The USS Ronald Reagan, a 100,000-ton nuclear powered aircraft carrier, is patrolling in waters east of the Korean peninsula, in a show of sea and air power designed to warn off North Korea from any military action.

The carrier sailed into the port of Busan in southern South Korea on Saturday in a regular visit to the country as tensions stemming from North Korea‘s missile and nuclear provocations simmer.


The U.S. Navy's biggest warship in Asia, with a crew of 5,000 sailors, sailed around 100 miles launching almost 90 F-18 Super Hornet sorties from its deck, in sight of South Korean islands.


It is conducting drills with the South Korean navy involving 40 warships deployed in a line stretching from the Yellow Sea west of the peninsula into the Sea of Japan.



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Trump I'm afraid is going to launch a war.  He just signed a executive order to give the military the ability to bring personal out of retirement.  we can only hope that millions rather then 10's of millions will be killed. Anthrax and smallpox may be released. It will be the bloodiest war since WWII and will change the world we knew forever I'm afraid.  
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Taxman100, looking at history "most soldiers would be back home at christmas" never worked out in major conflicts. In my opinion there is a major conflict between "east" Russia-Iran-China" and "west" US.
The position of the EU is vague...divided in itself. 

"Hot fronts" are the Ukraine, Turkey-Syria-Iraq, Afghanistan/Pakistan, possibly Bangla Desh/Myamar, North Korea. "Cold fronts" Baltics, Balkan, Black Sea, South China Sea, Taiwan, Bering Strait. Eventhough NATO moved east it is to simple to put all the blame on the west. Under Putin Russia started a build-up to Soviet strenght, China has become an economic giant. 

North Korea is the big questionmark. Can China, Russia, US (together or apart from eachother) get North Korea talking. The nuclear tests in NE-North Korea, not far away from Wladiwostok, China-border have become to risky-even Kim will realize this. (Kim is NOT a mad-man-he copied Israels route to nuclear weapons as a strategic gamechancher, he is now in the position to make (some) demands-overplaying will damage that position.)

Russia-Iran-China leading international cooperation away from the US (petro-dollar) will be hard to accept for the US. But a major war will not change that-minor wars can slow that proces. 

When "things do get out of hand" in my opinion it will get far worse than anything humans have ever seen. 

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As https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooHxSfI8_p8 Israeli News Live asks, why did Israel not fight terrorism in Syria. http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/11/lebanon-hariris-resignation-the-opening-shot-of-the-saudi-war-on-hizbullah.html# Moon-of-Alabama already has an answer; Israel-Saudi Arabia and the US are at war with Iran and Russia, China. 




DJ; Trump is starting his Asia-tour on monday in Japan. He will meet both Xi-from/in China and Putin during a top in Viet Nam. As several comments on MoA, Saker etc. point out-Trump may find out that he is empty handed. In the US a "deep state elite-anti democratic" is trying to sabotage his presidency (and Trump himself is helping them by his lack of "political talent"), outside the "America First" story is not helping (long term) friendships. 

In my opinion there is a powerstruggle both in Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, maybe even South Korea, Israel, Turkey between those who want to stick to some "form of friendship with the US" and those who want to go for deals with China and/or Russia (hoping to limit the role of Iran). So far the US-long term-strategy only made matters worse for "the west". More wars are not welcomed by most countries-when the US only has war to offer it is time to look for better offers. 

The US petro-dollar age-and with that the US leadership-is coming to an end. China does not need the US-the US needs China much more. 

In Syria Putin is willing to work with Israel to keep Iran to close from the Golan-heights. China and Russia want to involve North Korea in a plan for Korean unification on the long term-the US is blocking those peacefull initiatives. 

RISKS: The US has 4000/5000 soldiers in Syria, several thousends in Iraq, Turkey. The US presence in Syria is against international law. The US may not give up its presence in that region very easy. Both Israel and Saudi Arabia may take (more) action against Iran(ian influence). (Both are directly involved in the wars in Syria and Iraq against the Bagdad and Damascus government.)

On Korea it is the US that does not want further talks. Even Japan is not on that line. A military "solution" will turn into uncontroleble very easy, very fast. When the US is willing to sacrify South Korea to deal with a Nort Korean threat other long term US friends will "review their friendships". 

Inside the US the political elte is creating chaos on an unprecedented scale. Starting a major war could become attractive to get some control on the country. 

A conflict could start when a plane crashes, a ship has an accident http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-04/us-navy-being-truthful-its-report-recent-crash-incidents. The cyber-war is already going on. We may be just a few steps away from further (false flag) escalation-proberbly during the Trump Asia visit coming week. 

The Russia-China relation is quite strong. Turkey and Iran could join forces to get a role in the new world order.
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Eventhough the Gulf States and US blockade Yemen ports the US led coalition is losing the Yemen war. So they blame Iran. http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/1544-saudi-arabia-analyzes-missile-intercepted-northeast-of-riyadh-iran-supplied-missile and http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-05/saudis-call-missile-attack-blatant-act-aggression-iran-could-be-considered-act-war



Of course it is all about the controll of energy. petro-US-dollar etc. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-05/did-russias-iranian-energy-deal-kill-four-birds-one-stone (South Asia stream links Iran-via Pakistan with India, Iran and Russia work together for the EU market, Azerbeidjan is a link between energysupply Russia-Iran, also Russia prefers doing bussiness withIran above any deal with (present) KSA) War with Iran would make clear what position Russia, China, Turkey will take. 


Saudi Arabia can only start an open war with Iran with US help. Russia will support Iran, Israel, some Arab states support KSA. Egypt, Pakistan have to choose-working with Iran/Russia would mean break up of old ties with KSA. https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/11/04/a-new-war-in-lebanon-syria-iraq-and-beyond-on-the-way/ KSA/US integrating IS into SDF.
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http://theduran.com/breaking-saudi-regime-orders-arrest-called-syrian-opposition-leaders/ The Duran has an interesting interpretation of the events in KSA. The crownprince may be moving KSA towards accepting the petro-yuan. Arresting those who stand for the petro-US$, supported a policy for foreign intervention. Crownprince Muhamed Bin Salman(MSB) wants to focus on modernizing KSA-would welcome foreign investors (China). http://theduran.com/crisis-in-saudi-arabia-first-shots-in-a-civil-war/ The (saudi) "royals" may have gone to far in their decadence and stealing from the poor. Their time could be up.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-06/verge-catastrophe-saudi-arabia-says-lebanon-declared-war In Lebanon with (Saudi passport) Hariri in a KSA prison Hezbollah may gain influence. 

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http://unfccc.int/meetings/bonn_nov_2017/meeting/10084.php Trump wants to give up the Iran-deal, the Paris climate agreement etc. Internationaly things do not work that way. Many countries are accepting a need to co-operate. Giving up on the outcome of years of negotiations (by the US) is an insult for most other "partners"; isolating the US even further. 
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Since this story involves Saudi Arabia, Lebanon and effects global affairs;

http://theduran.com/leaked-cable-confirms-israel-and-saudi-arabia-coordination-to-start-a-middle-east-war/ After the arrest of Lebanon PM Hariri-a saudi bussinessman as well-both Israel and KSA started a campain to blame Iran. 
http://thesaker.is/the-inside-story-of-the-saudi-night-of-long-knives/ The powergrab of MSB may cause a civil war in KSA (and explain why oil-prices go up around the world). 

https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377 is on top of this story. It is unclear what KSA is going to do. Does it go with the US and Israel-start a war with Iran, or is it turning towards Russia, China ? 

The Saudi royals-and there are several thousends of members-claim to own Saudi Arabia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Saud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW8e_TBDrNM Israeli News Live; US about to start war with Iran.
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/11/defeated-elsewhere-saudi-ruler-declares-war-on-lebanon.html (Also about Trump son-in-law Kushner's role, DJ the Saudi story reminds me of the Roman emperor Caligula, MSB robbed 7% of the KSA GDP in one weekend. )
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Thanks, Dutch Josh, good reporting!  This is not being covered much in US media, as the focus is upon Pres. Trump and his activities. 

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Thanks. An understatement; "there were some doubts about Trump being able to make good foreign policy decisions". "The west" has made stupid mistakes since the fall of "the east" in 1989/90. The Warsaw-pact ended, NATO moved east. Several wars since that time can be blamed on that western policy, from Yugoslavia to Syria. You ara then talking about millions of lives lost, "zillions" of US$. € etc being spent on military while it should heve been spent on education, healthcare, energy-efficency etc. 

It may go a bit to far to claim that after 1990 the "west" destroyed the globe-but it is less far of than I like. 

The "press" in the west is mostly failing to report the insane situation the world is in now. From climate change, radiation to war, overpopulation, our time is running out. But "media" is looking the other way. Are humans an insane species ? 
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Thanks. An understatement; "there were some doubts about Trump being able to make good foreign policy decisions". "The west" has made stupid mistakes since the fall of "the east" in 1989/90. The Warsaw-pact ended, NATO moved east. Several wars since that time can be blamed on that western policy, from Yugoslavia to Syria. You ara then talking about millions of lives lost, "zillions" of US$. € etc being spent on military while it should heve been spent on education, healthcare, energy-efficency etc. 

It may go a bit to far to claim that after 1990 the "west" destroyed the globe-but it is less far of than I like. 

The "press" in the west is mostly failing to report the insane situation the world is in now. From climate change, radiation to war, overpopulation, our time is running out. But "media" is looking the other way. Are humans an insane species ? 

Good points, all!  

I was a Reagan/Bush Republican during the Cold War, and was pleased when the Berlin Wall fell.  However, I agree that the expansion of NATO into former Soviet client states (Poland, Czech Republic etc.) was unnecessary and provocative to the Russians.  Imagine how Americans would have felt if Russia mobilized troops into Canada and Mexico?  

Putin hates the US and West for helping to foment the dissolution of the USSR, so we are back to a solid Cold War footing.  I had once advocated a strong West/Russia alliance (I called it "USSA"!), and we have many areas to collaborate including solving climate change, building a large base on the moon as a stepping stone to further space adventures etc.  In many ways, Russia would seem to be a good partner for the West, if we can get rid of the animosity. 

However, I don't see that happening while Putin is in power.  Pity, we are wasting a historic moment. 
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I think at the end we have no choice. "United we stand, divided we fall" as humans. 

Abrupt exponential sealevelrise-in my opinion-is becoming unavoidable by now. (The IPCC once came with their expectation of 1 meter sealevelrise by 2100, with more after that "magical"year-even that is totally unacceptable. The melt of ice in the(Ant)Arctic, expansion of water due to warming, will bring the 1 meter sealevelrise by 2040 ? Also "abrupt" because of mega-storms and "rivers in the sky" will bring the sea/ocean in places within a few hours-it will not al go smoothly.)

On the "war-front" Israeli https://www.debka.com/iran-threatens-hit-saudi-abu-dhabi-dubai-air-sea-ports-ships-missiles-yemeni-houthis/. (Other sources point out that the Yemen Army-KSA is fighting that army-is capable of modernizing Scuds themselves-they do not need Iran for that.)
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http://theduran.com/turkeys-president-erdogan-visit-qatar-next-week-amid-saudi-crisis/
Since the Saudi's threatened Qatar for "supporting terrorism" this summer Turkey stationed troops in Qatar. Qatar exploits a gasfield with Iran something Israel, KSA and the US do not like. 


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident A possible scenario could be an Israeli submarine firing scud-like missiles from Yemen coastal area at KSA (why not Mecca and Medina region ?) and KSA blaming Iran for that. KSA would "react" by attacking Iran before the world has a chance to realize they are being fooled. 

Further escalation could be "Iran missiles on Israel" (by Israel) so both Israel and the US can "defend world peace" against "Iranian agression". https://sputniknews.com/politics/201708051056203777-russia-iran-military-cooperation/ https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2015/01/22/russia-iran-military-cooperation-agreement-step-strategic-cooperation.html

Israel has nuclear weapons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Israel#Stockpile all aimed at Iran. 

Another possible scenario is Israel attcking Hezbollah in Lebanon and (via Lebanese airspace) Syria. Israel has done this earlier several times.

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Of course starting a major war is a big investment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjJ1cjzgttg AT&T provided the nazi's with telecom, Standard Oil worked with IG Farben (now BASF), Royal Dutch Shell provided fuel for nazi tanks build by Ford. So this should not surprise anybody; http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-08/real-motive-behind-saudi-purge-emerges-800-billion-confiscated-assets

To fight a war you need oil. When you can use nazi's for that goal you use nazi's to invade the Soviet Union. When you have to create IS for that goal you do so. 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-08/how-broke-house-saud The 15.000 Saudi "royals"are running out of money. Behind the scenes some major "investors" will be welcoming this oppertunity to take over the Saudi oil industry. Behind the scene United Arab Emirates is running the show. In Dubai; "If you’re planning to visit the oh sooooo civilized new Louvre in Abu Dhabi there’s a few things you need to know.

No amount of slick P.R. in D.C. or suave lobbying by UAE ambassador Otaiba masks the fact the UAE is the most corrupt country on earth, hands down.

More corrupt than Nigeria – and no offense to the Nigerians.

There are auctions in Dubai of kidnapped Eastern European pre-pubescent girls; take that, “progressives” horrified by the Weinstein saga.

The Taliban for years were supplied on everything out of Dubai.

And the UAE is the largest heroin laundry operation on the planet - cleansing Afghani heroin money.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-08/saudi-purge-middle-east-verge-new-war Many "leaders" have lost support and need enemies so "the nation"gets united again against a made up foe. "War is business". 


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Bahrein and KSA telling their citizens to get out of Lebanon. KSA and Israel preparing for anti-Hezbollah war in Lebanon ? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-09/israel-and-saudi-arabia-target-lebanon-what-are-hezbollahs-military-capabilities and http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-09/saudi-arabia-orders-its-citizens-leave-lebanon-immediately 

The Saudi actions against Bahrein, Yemen, Qatar, Syria (via IS) all had to do with the KSA/US?israel conflict with Iran. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-09/saudi-arabia-orders-its-citizens-leave-lebanon-immediately



Debka (Israeli) Egypt on KSA (and Israel) side https://www.debka.com/mivzak/sisi-not-war-gulf-security-red-line/ https://www.debka.com/isis-last-stronghold-syria-abu-kamal-falls-hizballah-iraqi-shiite-force/ (For Israel it is important to stress that Hezbollah and Iraq are fighting in Syria. A scenario could be IS getting support and gaining ground again after Hezbollah is pulled to Lebanon.).

DJ; Both Israel and KSA buy US weapons. In Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Qatar, Kuwait  (Afghanistan-Pakistan if the conflicts widens to a US-Iran war) the US has military. The US is believed to support "rebelgroups" in Iran. Israel, KSA, US did support IS with weapons, info, logistics-so when IS is kicked out they still have the Kurdish card. 

Russia and Iran have advisors fighting with Syrian Arab Army, Hezbollah (and others-Afghans etc.) in Syria. An attack on Hezbollah may cause damage to Iranian, Russian military. The US-led coalition "fighting IS "in Iraq and (without permission) Syria did attack SAA forces in the past "by mistake". 
The "room for mistakes" may be running out. Russian air defense may become active (on request) above Iraq, Lebanon. 

Basicly this is an east-west confrontation. With both Russia and China on the Iranian, Hezbollah side and the US on the Israel, KSA, UAE etc. side. 

http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/u-s-national-news/1559-former-intelligence-operative-is-picked-up-by-the-fbi-after-warning-about-a-false-flag-terror-attack-inside-the-united-states A scud-missile is NOT an ICBM ! Still the chance for a false flag is increasing. Trump in Asia may bring surprises, proberbly with Israel in a role.
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U.S. Could Lose in a War Against North Korea's Massive Army, Former Pentagon Commander Warns


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On Korea I think the basic "fight" is over who runs Asia; Russia-China or the US (with India ?). North Korea needs the US as their enemy. The whole political structure of the Kim-dynasty is build upon the US being the major danger for all North Koreans. (For that matter I see some similarity with the way some in Israel see the world-the conflict as a basis for its existence).

My hope is that Russia and China were able to get some "advisors" inside the DPRK to check the nuclear testsites. Even Kim is not waiting on tests that would blow up their own country ! Russia and China can not accept tests that endanger their country. 

The US has "very limited options" against NK-but NK does sell weapons to Japan, SK etc. So far businessreasons the US welcomes the NK treath. 


Gulf States have been arming Sunni-extremists from Nigeria, to western China, Indonesia, Philipines. The US/west believed that these groups would do the "dirty work" for western interests. A mistake made earlier in history (by a western elite believing the nazi's would only deal with the soviet union, communists etc.).

A likely scenario would be further escalating by proxy wars. IS getting more active in Iran, Russia, China. "Unknown origin" missiles striking in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Saudi Arabia. More cyber-wars and false flags.

The sinking of an oil-tanker in the strait-of-Hormuz blamed on Iran could start a major conflict. Escalation of Turkish war against the Kurds in SE Turkey, Iraq, Syria (not only Hezbollah did get stronger in Syria so did the Kurds). 

The past years did bring an increase of chaos but the situation in Egypt, Turkey is different from Libya, Syria, Iraq eventhough all are in some sort of "civil"war. 


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China, Korea, Japan (a.o.) may find it hard to believe Trump. https://southfront.org/donald-trumps-north-korea-strategy-words-and-reality/ 

http://theduran.com/duterte-meets-putin-thanks-him-for-helping-philippines-to-win-battle-against-isis/ and http://theduran.com/south-korea-shifts-towards-china/ China is improving relations with South Korea. Russia has good relations with North Korea, Philipines. East-Asia may be better of working with Russia and China than with the US an ocean away. Many countries in the region have not forgotten what Japan did to them prior to 1945. Koreans may even get united against Japan-the US fails to understand that. 


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Middle East

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-11/if-saudi-arabia-situation-doesnt-worry-you-youre-not-paying-attention and https://www.peakprosperity.com/insider/113427/oil-threat (part 2)
China is facing an energycrisis and needs Saudi oil, the US is producing (by fracking partly) oil (even for export) and has become a competitor for the KSA. (DJ; KSA is making deals with China, improving relations with Israel while moving away from the US. The corruptionpurge in KSA is serious and may backfire to the US, UK and others-weaponproducers, buildingcompanies go hand in hand with corruption).

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/may/21/trump-joins-ceremonial-sword-dance-in-saudi-arabia-video The US still is a major partner for KSA-proberbly the KSA message is: we have alternatives for the US-give us what we want.

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With IS being kicked out of Iraq and Syria not making headlines what does that tell you of western "news" infotainment. The US is losing the war for the Middle East.
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In the middle east another balancing-act taking place; 

On the side of war:
on the side of peace:

DJ; Netanyahu is in Israel on the war-side, but many Israeli's are not waiting for a major conflict with Hezbollah and Iran. Russia could play a diplomatic role between Israel and Iran (the US has no good position for that with Iran). 

"Non-sense-news" http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/1586-iran-earthquake-was-actually-covert-nuclear-detonation. The embedded media has to create the atmosphere for starting another major war. (DJ; In the article itself it is left open who might have done a nuke-explosion. I would not rule out that an "anti-Iran" "force" could use a nuclear weapon against Iran. Israel and the US have nuclear weapons and special forces wich might be able to put a nuclear weapon in position. KSA is believed to have bought a Pakistan nuclear weapon. https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/11/11/zionist-agenda-to-denuclearize-pakistan/) (From the comments, the quake proberbly was to deep 23km and near a faultline. A "normal" earthquake is the most logical explanation. DJ; US navy monitoring for radiation in the Gulf after the quake makes sence since this quake may stir up all kinds of "dust". The quake was near Halabja-in Iraq-known for the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_chemical_attack)


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https://www.debka.com/mivzak/trump-cuts-short-asian-tour-drops-philippine-visit/ and http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-14/trump-says-he-will-make-major-statement-when-he-returns-us  DJ; Will Trump say something on foreign policy or will it be domestic ? (Why the urgency ? He did not have talks with Putin in Viet Nam. Is there an Israel/Saudi Arabia "thing" on Iran ?) https://www.debka.com/mivzak/159887/ US and Russia do not agree on Syria to such a level that US will demand Iran to leave Syria "or else"?)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-14/bombshell-report-confirms-us-coalition-struck-deal-isis In fact "old news" but that the US, UK and Kurds moved over 4000 IS-fighters from Raqqa to other area's, including allowing them to go to the EU for further attacks, is insane. The over 5000 US soldiers in Syria-against international law-will stay in Syria "to fight IS" (untill they are kicked out).

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/11/the-saudi-tyrants-devilish-plan-sell-out-palestine-for-war-on-iran.html#more Saudi Arabia wants the US (and Israel) united against Iran and is willing in exchange to give up support for Palestinians. 

http://theduran.com/game-iraqi-kurds-renounce-secession-claims-will-remain-part-iraq/ The Kurds in Iraq are accepting to become part of Iraq. This means that Syrian Kurds (with Turkey in the North, the Syrian Army in the South and Iraq in the East will have to start negotiations with Assad. The US has lost it last supportgroup in Syria.



DJ; The US position in all of the Middle East is getting impossible. In the north Iran and Russia are in control. More south corrupt royals try to hold on to power with US support. Egypt will not go to war with Iran-certainly with (Saudi backed) IS in the Sinaï and Libya. Russia may see her influence growing in Northern Africa. https://www.debka.com/israel-high-alert-deploys-iron-dome-batteries-missile-attack/ Will Israel do a false flag to start a war with Iran ?
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DJ-The Us being with over 5000 soldiers in Syria "to fight IS" helping the Kurds is against international law. https://www.rt.com/usa/409881-mattis-us-syria-un/ The US is in Syria for oil. An outcome could be that Assad will make a deal with Exxon/Rex Tillerson on explorationrights. In return the US would have to take away their army. Russia is not waiting for a war against the US in Syria.

Israel and KSA do want war with Iran. Iran proberbly has to give in to some Russian "wishes" (a.o. Iran/Hezbollah to stay away from the Golan heights) and in return gets Russian "protection". The KSA can even buy Russian missiles under a guarantee that those missiles will not be used against Iran ? (With microchips to guarantee such missiles will not work against Russian made possible targets ?)
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roni3470 Iḿ glad when I find time to look at the links-sometimes I even find time to read it ! A summary proberbly not-but maybe I could copy some major points Okay ?

(This link offers another link to a pay-for-view (?) site-but major point is the Israeli claim Iran already has 13 bases in Syria. DJ-When Syria-Assad allows that Israel may not like that but may have to accept it.)


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-15/libyas-slave-auctions-and-african-genocide-what-hillary-knew (DJ-h clinton-"we came wa saw now he is dead" on Qadaffi. NATO is responsible for the chaos in North Africa. clinton should be in prison for warcrimes.)

https://www.rt.com/business/409905-saudi-arabia-iran-war-oil/ oil 300$ per barrel with Iran-Saudi war ? 



Russia is succesfull in using diplomacy to get "global influence". Turkey, Pakistan becoming "frenemies"
of the US. Working with the US/NATO at some level while working with Russia/China for their own interests.

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http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/11/syria-summary-the-idleb-battle-comes-into-sight.html#
DJ; The US and Israel want to keep Iran control limited in Syria. Therefor they work with IS and SDF (claiming to be fighting IS). Since SDF is under Kurdish command but in Arab land the SDF as a US proxy is not working very well. IS fighters from Raqqa-under US control send to the Iraq-Syria border are fighting the Syrian Arab Army. 

US presence will be unacceptable for Syria and Iraq-since the US worked with both IS and "moderate"rebels. Iran would like to have a land-route to Lebanon-partly for trade-oil with the EU. Turkey wants the US out since the US and Israel gave the Kurds-also fighting in Turkey-modern weapons. 

DJ; The longer the US will stay in Syria the more damage the US is doing to itself. US in Iraq is on an other legal ground. The countries in the region have united against the Kurds. In Iraq and Syria Kurds are now discussing their future as part of those countries with Russian help. (The Kurds may have reason to feel used by the US, betrayed-could turn against the US for getting a better position in Iraq and Syria.)

Israel and KSA want Iran out of Iraq and Syria. Without US help they can not start a major war for a long period. Eventhough the next KSA-king stole over 800 billion US$ worth from his own rich elite, fighting in Yemen is done by mercenaries from Latin America (and eastern Europe, Ukraine ???)-there is a limit money can buy. 

Korea


DJ; Both Russia and China-even South Korea-want peace in the region. If that means the US has to take a smaller role in the region the US should think of that. So far the US does not listen to other voices than their own. Any US military action will be answered by Russia and China. 

On the long term Russia and China want to integrate Korea (possibly as one country-two governments) in their EurAsia economic plans. North Korean nuclear facilities proberbly are a danger to the region-pushing North Korea towards China and Russia for help. 

The US is losing global power, China-Russia are becoming the new global leaders. (A historic proces, the Spanish-Portuges ruled the world 15/16th century-after that the Dutch were in power for a while in the 17th century-the UK and France did fight for global power after the 17th century with the British getting most of the power untill 1914. The US became the new global power after world war 1-that lasted a century. Asia has more than half the global population-China-Russia could become the "new dominant country" in the 21st century.)
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https://www.debka.com/iran-already-13-bases-syria-tens-thousands-troops-removal-realistic/

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said earlier this week that Israel reserves its freedom of military action in Syria to defend its borders.
Strong words about not letting Iran establish a military presence in Syria have also come from US President Donald Trump and Saudi Crown Prince Muhammad. The Saudi prince, who orchestrated Lebanese prime minister Saad Hariri’s flight to curtail Iran’s hold on Beirut, has summoned a conference of Syrian opposition leaders for Nov. 28, to create a powerful new bloc against Bashar Assad and his Iranian sponsors..

So how far and how deep is Iran’s grip on Syria?  What are the facts? An answer with full details is provided in the coming DEBKA Weekly #778 issue out Friday in an exclusive rundown, the first ever, of Iran’s military deployment in Syria, naming each of its 13 bases, place by place. This deployment is so extensive and organized, that talk of removing Iran’s military presence from that country is by now unrealistic without a major upheaval.


The London Daily Mail reported Thursday from a “a source close to the Saudi royal family” that King Salman is planning to give up the Saudi throne next week and name his son, Crown Prince Muhammad bin Salman, 32, as his successor. The king will reportedly “play the role of the queen of England,” keeping only the title  of “Custodian of the Holy Shrines.”
Twelve days ago, Prince Muhammad ordered 500 notables, including princes, former ministers and business leaders, detained on charges of corruption. The British newspaper carried the first photos of detainees sleeping in mattresses on the floor of the Carlton Ritz Riyadh.  After he is crowned king, the prince will focus on Iran, according the Daily Mail. His plan is to start the fire in Lebanon, said the source, in the hope of Israeli military backing. He is convinced he has to hit Iran and Hizballah – contrary to the advice of the royal family – and will enlist the help of the Israeli military to crush Hizballah, for which he has promised Israel billions of dollars if they agree.
The source stressed: MBS can’t confront Hizballah in Lebanon without Israel. Plan B is to fight Hizballah in Syria, said the source.

http://thesaker.is/a-ziowahabi-attack-on-hezbollah-and-iran/ (DJ-I do not like the words used in the article. But a strategy of limited reaction of Iran on an Israel/Saudi attack (like Putin would have in the Eastern Ukraine) could make the Israel/Saudi warplan useless-no escalation could mean the US only can give limited help.)

The context: a total AngloZionist failure on all fronts

To understand the context for these developments we first need to quickly summarize what has taken place in Syria and the rest of the Middle-East in the past few years.

The initial AngloZionist plan was to overthrow Assad and replace him with the Takfiri crazies (Daesh, al-Qaeda, al-Nusra, ISIS – call them whatever you want). Doing this would achieve the following goals:

  1. Bring down a strong secular Arab state along with its political structure, armed forces and security services.
  2. Create total chaos and horror in Syria justifying the creation of a “security zone” by Israel not only in the Golan, but further north.
  3. Trigger a civil war in Lebanon by unleashing the Takfiri crazies against Hezbollah.
  4. Let the Takfiris and Hezbollah bleed each other to death, then create a “security zone”, but this time in Lebanon.
  5. Prevent the creation of a Shia axis Iran-Iraq-Syria-Lebanon.
  6. Breakup Syria along ethnic and religious lines.
  7. Create a Kurdistan which could then be used against Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran.
  8. Make it possible for Israel to become the uncontested power broker in the Middle-East and forces the KSA, Qatar, Oman, Kuwait and all others to have to go to Israel for any gas or oil pipeline project.
  9. Gradually isolate, threaten, subvert and eventually attack Iran with a wide regional coalition of forces.
  10. Eliminate all center of Shia power in the Middle-East.

That was an ambitious plan, but the Israelis felt pretty confident that their US vassal-state would provide the resources needed to achieve it. And now this entire plan has collapsed due to the very high effectiveness of an informal but yet formidable alliance between Russia, Iran, Syria and Hezbollah.

To say that the Israelis are seething with rage and in a state of total panic would be an understatement. You think I am exaggerating? Then look at it from the Israeli point of view:

  1. The Syrian state has survived and its armed and security forces are now far more capable than they were before the war started (remember how they *almost* lost the war initially? The Syrians had to bounce back, learn some very hard lessons, but by all reports they have made tremendous improvements and while at a critical moment Iran and Hezbollah were literally “plugging holes” in the Syrian frontlines and “extinguishing fires” on local flashpoints, now the Syrians are doing a very good job of liberating large chunks of their country, including every single city in Syria).
  2. The not only is Syria stronger, but the Iranians and Hezbollah are all over the country now which is driving the Israelis into a state of panic and rage.
  3. Lebanon is rock solid, even the latest Saudi attempt to kidnap Hariri is backfiring.
  4. Syria will remain unitary and Kurdistan is not happening. Millions of displaced refugees are returning home.
  5. Israel and the USA look like total idiots and, even worse, as losers with no credibility left.

This is all a disaster for the AngloZionists who now are falling back to their typical attitude when met with resistance: if we can’t control it, then let’s destroy it.

The plan: force the USA to attack Iran

Saudi Arabia just introduced a 70% wealth tax. 

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https://www.debka.com/hariri-lands-paris-watch-money-trail-riyadh-business-partner-prince-abdul-aziz/

  1. According to our sources, the Crown Prince has assessed Hariri’s Saudi business partner as worth some $7 billion, which he has decided that he and their partnership owe to the Saudi state treasury and which they are now being told to surrender without delay. Since the family’s Saudi business empire bankrolls the former Lebanese prime minister’s prominent political standing in Beirut, Hariri could not afford to ignore the Crown Prince’s ultimatum. When his princely partner was arrested, Hariri flew to Riyadh to salvage what he could of their financial concerns.
  1. Notwithstanding the denials that Hariri was being held against his will, the truth is that he was held in some sort of house arrest. But only his high position as a top Lebanese leader – albeit a holder of dual Saudi nationality – and reluctance to gratify Tehran and Hizballah and justify their allegations – saved him from being locked up with the 500 Saudi high-ups at the Carlton Ritz.
  2. The French president intervened in the affair to rescue the longstanding French financial stake in the Hariri firms, without jeopardizing French-Saudi trade relations.
  3. Negotiations between French Foreign Minister Jean Yves le-Drian and Prince Muhammad resulted in permission for the former Lebanese prime minister to travel to Paris under the protection of the French secret service, the while France undertook to quietly negotiate a deal for the Hariri family companies to surrender a substantial sum to the Saudi state.

"Now, we are in a really dangerous situation where if a war breaks out, you have the great powers supporting opposite sides," he said, referring to Russian support of Iran and the West's backing of Saudi-led initiatives, such as the coalition in Yemen.

"I have long been warning that if we didn't help to build bridges and the West simply supported the Sunnis, in this case, Saudi Arabia, that it would be inevitable that Russia would support the Shia," he said.

Ashdown also described the sale of British arms to Riyadh for use in the war in Yemen and the UK's "tacit support" for the Saudis as "shameful".

"It is shameful that Britain is supplying weapons and indeed tacit support to Saudi Arabia when it is clearly in breach of international law in its indiscriminate attacks on civilians in Yemen."


Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is refusing to let NATO off the hook for an inadvertent yet insulting gesture that prompted him to remove 40 Turkish troops from a joint military exercise in Norway.

Russia Today reports that Erdogan has rebuffed a NATO apology for what he called “impudence” after his name was included on an “enemies chart” shared with military officials participating in the exercises. Erdogan’s name was reportedly included alongside a photo of Turkish founding father Mustafa Kemal Ataturk.

Following the scandal, both NATO and Norway offered their apologies for the incident, saying that the message did not reflect their views. But Erdogan, who has grown increasingly critical of NATO in recent years following clashes with German Leader Angela Merkel, is apparently using the incident as an excuse to widen the rift between Turkey and Brussels.


https://www.debka.com/mivzak/palestinians-will-break-contacts-us-washington-office-closed/ DJ-The main reason Russia and China get more influence is that they use diplomacy. What is wrong with that ? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-18/russia-gate-spreads-europe After "embedded journalism" now politics has found Russia to blame for unwelcome news. Insane !

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/ The US war on Iraq has killed almost 1,5 million people. For what ? Oil ? US foreign policy-with EU help-is a crime.

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