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Bahrein and KSA telling their citizens to get out of Lebanon. KSA and Israel preparing for anti-Hezbollah war in Lebanon ? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-09/israel-and-saudi-arabia-target-lebanon-what-are-hezbollahs-military-capabilities and http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-09/saudi-arabia-orders-its-citizens-leave-lebanon-immediately 

The Saudi actions against Bahrein, Yemen, Qatar, Syria (via IS) all had to do with the KSA/US?israel conflict with Iran. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-09/saudi-arabia-orders-its-citizens-leave-lebanon-immediately



Debka (Israeli) Egypt on KSA (and Israel) side https://www.debka.com/mivzak/sisi-not-war-gulf-security-red-line/ https://www.debka.com/isis-last-stronghold-syria-abu-kamal-falls-hizballah-iraqi-shiite-force/ (For Israel it is important to stress that Hezbollah and Iraq are fighting in Syria. A scenario could be IS getting support and gaining ground again after Hezbollah is pulled to Lebanon.).

DJ; Both Israel and KSA buy US weapons. In Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Qatar, Kuwait  (Afghanistan-Pakistan if the conflicts widens to a US-Iran war) the US has military. The US is believed to support "rebelgroups" in Iran. Israel, KSA, US did support IS with weapons, info, logistics-so when IS is kicked out they still have the Kurdish card. 

Russia and Iran have advisors fighting with Syrian Arab Army, Hezbollah (and others-Afghans etc.) in Syria. An attack on Hezbollah may cause damage to Iranian, Russian military. The US-led coalition "fighting IS "in Iraq and (without permission) Syria did attack SAA forces in the past "by mistake". 
The "room for mistakes" may be running out. Russian air defense may become active (on request) above Iraq, Lebanon. 

Basicly this is an east-west confrontation. With both Russia and China on the Iranian, Hezbollah side and the US on the Israel, KSA, UAE etc. side. 

http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/u-s-national-news/1559-former-intelligence-operative-is-picked-up-by-the-fbi-after-warning-about-a-false-flag-terror-attack-inside-the-united-states A scud-missile is NOT an ICBM ! Still the chance for a false flag is increasing. Trump in Asia may bring surprises, proberbly with Israel in a role.
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U.S. Could Lose in a War Against North Korea's Massive Army, Former Pentagon Commander Warns


http://www.newsweek.com/if-war-north-korea-comes-us-military-would-be-outnumbered-former-top-commander-707212

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On Korea I think the basic "fight" is over who runs Asia; Russia-China or the US (with India ?). North Korea needs the US as their enemy. The whole political structure of the Kim-dynasty is build upon the US being the major danger for all North Koreans. (For that matter I see some similarity with the way some in Israel see the world-the conflict as a basis for its existence).

My hope is that Russia and China were able to get some "advisors" inside the DPRK to check the nuclear testsites. Even Kim is not waiting on tests that would blow up their own country ! Russia and China can not accept tests that endanger their country. 

The US has "very limited options" against NK-but NK does sell weapons to Japan, SK etc. So far businessreasons the US welcomes the NK treath. 


Gulf States have been arming Sunni-extremists from Nigeria, to western China, Indonesia, Philipines. The US/west believed that these groups would do the "dirty work" for western interests. A mistake made earlier in history (by a western elite believing the nazi's would only deal with the soviet union, communists etc.).

A likely scenario would be further escalating by proxy wars. IS getting more active in Iran, Russia, China. "Unknown origin" missiles striking in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Saudi Arabia. More cyber-wars and false flags.

The sinking of an oil-tanker in the strait-of-Hormuz blamed on Iran could start a major conflict. Escalation of Turkish war against the Kurds in SE Turkey, Iraq, Syria (not only Hezbollah did get stronger in Syria so did the Kurds). 

The past years did bring an increase of chaos but the situation in Egypt, Turkey is different from Libya, Syria, Iraq eventhough all are in some sort of "civil"war. 


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China, Korea, Japan (a.o.) may find it hard to believe Trump. https://southfront.org/donald-trumps-north-korea-strategy-words-and-reality/ 

http://theduran.com/duterte-meets-putin-thanks-him-for-helping-philippines-to-win-battle-against-isis/ and http://theduran.com/south-korea-shifts-towards-china/ China is improving relations with South Korea. Russia has good relations with North Korea, Philipines. East-Asia may be better of working with Russia and China than with the US an ocean away. Many countries in the region have not forgotten what Japan did to them prior to 1945. Koreans may even get united against Japan-the US fails to understand that. 


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Middle East

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-11/if-saudi-arabia-situation-doesnt-worry-you-youre-not-paying-attention and https://www.peakprosperity.com/insider/113427/oil-threat (part 2)
China is facing an energycrisis and needs Saudi oil, the US is producing (by fracking partly) oil (even for export) and has become a competitor for the KSA. (DJ; KSA is making deals with China, improving relations with Israel while moving away from the US. The corruptionpurge in KSA is serious and may backfire to the US, UK and others-weaponproducers, buildingcompanies go hand in hand with corruption).

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/may/21/trump-joins-ceremonial-sword-dance-in-saudi-arabia-video The US still is a major partner for KSA-proberbly the KSA message is: we have alternatives for the US-give us what we want.

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With IS being kicked out of Iraq and Syria not making headlines what does that tell you of western "news" infotainment. The US is losing the war for the Middle East.
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In the middle east another balancing-act taking place; 

On the side of war:
on the side of peace:

DJ; Netanyahu is in Israel on the war-side, but many Israeli's are not waiting for a major conflict with Hezbollah and Iran. Russia could play a diplomatic role between Israel and Iran (the US has no good position for that with Iran). 

"Non-sense-news" http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/1586-iran-earthquake-was-actually-covert-nuclear-detonation. The embedded media has to create the atmosphere for starting another major war. (DJ; In the article itself it is left open who might have done a nuke-explosion. I would not rule out that an "anti-Iran" "force" could use a nuclear weapon against Iran. Israel and the US have nuclear weapons and special forces wich might be able to put a nuclear weapon in position. KSA is believed to have bought a Pakistan nuclear weapon. https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/11/11/zionist-agenda-to-denuclearize-pakistan/) (From the comments, the quake proberbly was to deep 23km and near a faultline. A "normal" earthquake is the most logical explanation. DJ; US navy monitoring for radiation in the Gulf after the quake makes sence since this quake may stir up all kinds of "dust". The quake was near Halabja-in Iraq-known for the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_chemical_attack)


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https://www.debka.com/mivzak/trump-cuts-short-asian-tour-drops-philippine-visit/ and http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-14/trump-says-he-will-make-major-statement-when-he-returns-us  DJ; Will Trump say something on foreign policy or will it be domestic ? (Why the urgency ? He did not have talks with Putin in Viet Nam. Is there an Israel/Saudi Arabia "thing" on Iran ?) https://www.debka.com/mivzak/159887/ US and Russia do not agree on Syria to such a level that US will demand Iran to leave Syria "or else"?)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-14/bombshell-report-confirms-us-coalition-struck-deal-isis In fact "old news" but that the US, UK and Kurds moved over 4000 IS-fighters from Raqqa to other area's, including allowing them to go to the EU for further attacks, is insane. The over 5000 US soldiers in Syria-against international law-will stay in Syria "to fight IS" (untill they are kicked out).

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/11/the-saudi-tyrants-devilish-plan-sell-out-palestine-for-war-on-iran.html#more Saudi Arabia wants the US (and Israel) united against Iran and is willing in exchange to give up support for Palestinians. 

http://theduran.com/game-iraqi-kurds-renounce-secession-claims-will-remain-part-iraq/ The Kurds in Iraq are accepting to become part of Iraq. This means that Syrian Kurds (with Turkey in the North, the Syrian Army in the South and Iraq in the East will have to start negotiations with Assad. The US has lost it last supportgroup in Syria.



DJ; The US position in all of the Middle East is getting impossible. In the north Iran and Russia are in control. More south corrupt royals try to hold on to power with US support. Egypt will not go to war with Iran-certainly with (Saudi backed) IS in the Sinaï and Libya. Russia may see her influence growing in Northern Africa. https://www.debka.com/israel-high-alert-deploys-iron-dome-batteries-missile-attack/ Will Israel do a false flag to start a war with Iran ?
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-14/white-house-being-warned-north-korea-planning-devatstaing-emp-attack-america 




DJ-The Us being with over 5000 soldiers in Syria "to fight IS" helping the Kurds is against international law. https://www.rt.com/usa/409881-mattis-us-syria-un/ The US is in Syria for oil. An outcome could be that Assad will make a deal with Exxon/Rex Tillerson on explorationrights. In return the US would have to take away their army. Russia is not waiting for a war against the US in Syria.

Israel and KSA do want war with Iran. Iran proberbly has to give in to some Russian "wishes" (a.o. Iran/Hezbollah to stay away from the Golan heights) and in return gets Russian "protection". The KSA can even buy Russian missiles under a guarantee that those missiles will not be used against Iran ? (With microchips to guarantee such missiles will not work against Russian made possible targets ?)
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Hey!  Love the links to post but don't have time to open all these articles.  Would love you giving a summary if you ever have time!
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roni3470 Iḿ glad when I find time to look at the links-sometimes I even find time to read it ! A summary proberbly not-but maybe I could copy some major points Okay ?

(This link offers another link to a pay-for-view (?) site-but major point is the Israeli claim Iran already has 13 bases in Syria. DJ-When Syria-Assad allows that Israel may not like that but may have to accept it.)


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-15/libyas-slave-auctions-and-african-genocide-what-hillary-knew (DJ-h clinton-"we came wa saw now he is dead" on Qadaffi. NATO is responsible for the chaos in North Africa. clinton should be in prison for warcrimes.)

https://www.rt.com/business/409905-saudi-arabia-iran-war-oil/ oil 300$ per barrel with Iran-Saudi war ? 



Russia is succesfull in using diplomacy to get "global influence". Turkey, Pakistan becoming "frenemies"
of the US. Working with the US/NATO at some level while working with Russia/China for their own interests.

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http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/11/syria-summary-the-idleb-battle-comes-into-sight.html#
DJ; The US and Israel want to keep Iran control limited in Syria. Therefor they work with IS and SDF (claiming to be fighting IS). Since SDF is under Kurdish command but in Arab land the SDF as a US proxy is not working very well. IS fighters from Raqqa-under US control send to the Iraq-Syria border are fighting the Syrian Arab Army. 

US presence will be unacceptable for Syria and Iraq-since the US worked with both IS and "moderate"rebels. Iran would like to have a land-route to Lebanon-partly for trade-oil with the EU. Turkey wants the US out since the US and Israel gave the Kurds-also fighting in Turkey-modern weapons. 

DJ; The longer the US will stay in Syria the more damage the US is doing to itself. US in Iraq is on an other legal ground. The countries in the region have united against the Kurds. In Iraq and Syria Kurds are now discussing their future as part of those countries with Russian help. (The Kurds may have reason to feel used by the US, betrayed-could turn against the US for getting a better position in Iraq and Syria.)

Israel and KSA want Iran out of Iraq and Syria. Without US help they can not start a major war for a long period. Eventhough the next KSA-king stole over 800 billion US$ worth from his own rich elite, fighting in Yemen is done by mercenaries from Latin America (and eastern Europe, Ukraine ???)-there is a limit money can buy. 

Korea


DJ; Both Russia and China-even South Korea-want peace in the region. If that means the US has to take a smaller role in the region the US should think of that. So far the US does not listen to other voices than their own. Any US military action will be answered by Russia and China. 

On the long term Russia and China want to integrate Korea (possibly as one country-two governments) in their EurAsia economic plans. North Korean nuclear facilities proberbly are a danger to the region-pushing North Korea towards China and Russia for help. 

The US is losing global power, China-Russia are becoming the new global leaders. (A historic proces, the Spanish-Portuges ruled the world 15/16th century-after that the Dutch were in power for a while in the 17th century-the UK and France did fight for global power after the 17th century with the British getting most of the power untill 1914. The US became the new global power after world war 1-that lasted a century. Asia has more than half the global population-China-Russia could become the "new dominant country" in the 21st century.)
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https://www.debka.com/iran-already-13-bases-syria-tens-thousands-troops-removal-realistic/

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said earlier this week that Israel reserves its freedom of military action in Syria to defend its borders.
Strong words about not letting Iran establish a military presence in Syria have also come from US President Donald Trump and Saudi Crown Prince Muhammad. The Saudi prince, who orchestrated Lebanese prime minister Saad Hariri’s flight to curtail Iran’s hold on Beirut, has summoned a conference of Syrian opposition leaders for Nov. 28, to create a powerful new bloc against Bashar Assad and his Iranian sponsors..

So how far and how deep is Iran’s grip on Syria?  What are the facts? An answer with full details is provided in the coming DEBKA Weekly #778 issue out Friday in an exclusive rundown, the first ever, of Iran’s military deployment in Syria, naming each of its 13 bases, place by place. This deployment is so extensive and organized, that talk of removing Iran’s military presence from that country is by now unrealistic without a major upheaval.


The London Daily Mail reported Thursday from a “a source close to the Saudi royal family” that King Salman is planning to give up the Saudi throne next week and name his son, Crown Prince Muhammad bin Salman, 32, as his successor. The king will reportedly “play the role of the queen of England,” keeping only the title  of “Custodian of the Holy Shrines.”
Twelve days ago, Prince Muhammad ordered 500 notables, including princes, former ministers and business leaders, detained on charges of corruption. The British newspaper carried the first photos of detainees sleeping in mattresses on the floor of the Carlton Ritz Riyadh.  After he is crowned king, the prince will focus on Iran, according the Daily Mail. His plan is to start the fire in Lebanon, said the source, in the hope of Israeli military backing. He is convinced he has to hit Iran and Hizballah – contrary to the advice of the royal family – and will enlist the help of the Israeli military to crush Hizballah, for which he has promised Israel billions of dollars if they agree.
The source stressed: MBS can’t confront Hizballah in Lebanon without Israel. Plan B is to fight Hizballah in Syria, said the source.

http://thesaker.is/a-ziowahabi-attack-on-hezbollah-and-iran/ (DJ-I do not like the words used in the article. But a strategy of limited reaction of Iran on an Israel/Saudi attack (like Putin would have in the Eastern Ukraine) could make the Israel/Saudi warplan useless-no escalation could mean the US only can give limited help.)

The context: a total AngloZionist failure on all fronts

To understand the context for these developments we first need to quickly summarize what has taken place in Syria and the rest of the Middle-East in the past few years.

The initial AngloZionist plan was to overthrow Assad and replace him with the Takfiri crazies (Daesh, al-Qaeda, al-Nusra, ISIS – call them whatever you want). Doing this would achieve the following goals:

  1. Bring down a strong secular Arab state along with its political structure, armed forces and security services.
  2. Create total chaos and horror in Syria justifying the creation of a “security zone” by Israel not only in the Golan, but further north.
  3. Trigger a civil war in Lebanon by unleashing the Takfiri crazies against Hezbollah.
  4. Let the Takfiris and Hezbollah bleed each other to death, then create a “security zone”, but this time in Lebanon.
  5. Prevent the creation of a Shia axis Iran-Iraq-Syria-Lebanon.
  6. Breakup Syria along ethnic and religious lines.
  7. Create a Kurdistan which could then be used against Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran.
  8. Make it possible for Israel to become the uncontested power broker in the Middle-East and forces the KSA, Qatar, Oman, Kuwait and all others to have to go to Israel for any gas or oil pipeline project.
  9. Gradually isolate, threaten, subvert and eventually attack Iran with a wide regional coalition of forces.
  10. Eliminate all center of Shia power in the Middle-East.

That was an ambitious plan, but the Israelis felt pretty confident that their US vassal-state would provide the resources needed to achieve it. And now this entire plan has collapsed due to the very high effectiveness of an informal but yet formidable alliance between Russia, Iran, Syria and Hezbollah.

To say that the Israelis are seething with rage and in a state of total panic would be an understatement. You think I am exaggerating? Then look at it from the Israeli point of view:

  1. The Syrian state has survived and its armed and security forces are now far more capable than they were before the war started (remember how they *almost* lost the war initially? The Syrians had to bounce back, learn some very hard lessons, but by all reports they have made tremendous improvements and while at a critical moment Iran and Hezbollah were literally “plugging holes” in the Syrian frontlines and “extinguishing fires” on local flashpoints, now the Syrians are doing a very good job of liberating large chunks of their country, including every single city in Syria).
  2. The not only is Syria stronger, but the Iranians and Hezbollah are all over the country now which is driving the Israelis into a state of panic and rage.
  3. Lebanon is rock solid, even the latest Saudi attempt to kidnap Hariri is backfiring.
  4. Syria will remain unitary and Kurdistan is not happening. Millions of displaced refugees are returning home.
  5. Israel and the USA look like total idiots and, even worse, as losers with no credibility left.

This is all a disaster for the AngloZionists who now are falling back to their typical attitude when met with resistance: if we can’t control it, then let’s destroy it.

The plan: force the USA to attack Iran

Saudi Arabia just introduced a 70% wealth tax. 

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https://www.debka.com/hariri-lands-paris-watch-money-trail-riyadh-business-partner-prince-abdul-aziz/

  1. According to our sources, the Crown Prince has assessed Hariri’s Saudi business partner as worth some $7 billion, which he has decided that he and their partnership owe to the Saudi state treasury and which they are now being told to surrender without delay. Since the family’s Saudi business empire bankrolls the former Lebanese prime minister’s prominent political standing in Beirut, Hariri could not afford to ignore the Crown Prince’s ultimatum. When his princely partner was arrested, Hariri flew to Riyadh to salvage what he could of their financial concerns.
  1. Notwithstanding the denials that Hariri was being held against his will, the truth is that he was held in some sort of house arrest. But only his high position as a top Lebanese leader – albeit a holder of dual Saudi nationality – and reluctance to gratify Tehran and Hizballah and justify their allegations – saved him from being locked up with the 500 Saudi high-ups at the Carlton Ritz.
  2. The French president intervened in the affair to rescue the longstanding French financial stake in the Hariri firms, without jeopardizing French-Saudi trade relations.
  3. Negotiations between French Foreign Minister Jean Yves le-Drian and Prince Muhammad resulted in permission for the former Lebanese prime minister to travel to Paris under the protection of the French secret service, the while France undertook to quietly negotiate a deal for the Hariri family companies to surrender a substantial sum to the Saudi state.

"Now, we are in a really dangerous situation where if a war breaks out, you have the great powers supporting opposite sides," he said, referring to Russian support of Iran and the West's backing of Saudi-led initiatives, such as the coalition in Yemen.

"I have long been warning that if we didn't help to build bridges and the West simply supported the Sunnis, in this case, Saudi Arabia, that it would be inevitable that Russia would support the Shia," he said.

Ashdown also described the sale of British arms to Riyadh for use in the war in Yemen and the UK's "tacit support" for the Saudis as "shameful".

"It is shameful that Britain is supplying weapons and indeed tacit support to Saudi Arabia when it is clearly in breach of international law in its indiscriminate attacks on civilians in Yemen."


Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is refusing to let NATO off the hook for an inadvertent yet insulting gesture that prompted him to remove 40 Turkish troops from a joint military exercise in Norway.

Russia Today reports that Erdogan has rebuffed a NATO apology for what he called “impudence” after his name was included on an “enemies chart” shared with military officials participating in the exercises. Erdogan’s name was reportedly included alongside a photo of Turkish founding father Mustafa Kemal Ataturk.

Following the scandal, both NATO and Norway offered their apologies for the incident, saying that the message did not reflect their views. But Erdogan, who has grown increasingly critical of NATO in recent years following clashes with German Leader Angela Merkel, is apparently using the incident as an excuse to widen the rift between Turkey and Brussels.


https://www.debka.com/mivzak/palestinians-will-break-contacts-us-washington-office-closed/ DJ-The main reason Russia and China get more influence is that they use diplomacy. What is wrong with that ? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-18/russia-gate-spreads-europe After "embedded journalism" now politics has found Russia to blame for unwelcome news. Insane !

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/ The US war on Iraq has killed almost 1,5 million people. For what ? Oil ? US foreign policy-with EU help-is a crime.

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http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/u-s-national-news/1626-reports-us-marine-expeditionary-unit-meu-lands-at-langley-2200-marines ???? https://www.rt.com/usa/410307-general-trump-nuke-order/ DJ-who is in power in the US-the elected president Trump or an anti-democratic elite ?

http://theduran.com/turkey-threatens-remove-us-radar-systems-soil/ DJ; Turkey leaving NATO could be the end of NATO. Without Turkey a US war with Iran would be very difficult. Erdogan is claiming that Turkey will "deal" with the (US backed) Kurds in Syria. 

NATO is very unwise to insult Turkey. I-DJ-would have welcomed Turkey to the EU. It might have given the region some stability. Turkey is now on the side of Iran, Russia, Syria...( a loss unacceptable for NATO ! Just like the US can not give up the petro-US-$ without an extreme price to pay-but sticking to it also no longer an option !) http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2017/11/19/542708/Iran-Turkey-Russia-Syria-Antalya

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/11/17/trumps-saudi-scheme-unravels/ The plan was 1 Israel accepted in Arab world-2 Sunni front against Iran-3 solution of Palestinian problem. Only Lebanon did not break up after KSA took its p.m. hostage (Hariri was refused asylum in Jordan by KSA (and US) order)-Israel is not willing to start a war with Hezbollah. Consequences-further doubts on US foreign policies.





DJ-eventhough RT=Russian, PressTV=Iran the movement is clear-the US is no longer in global control. (The last US elections between a fraud and a warcriminal did do a lot of damage. Both Trump and h.clinton are not the leaders that can work with Putin, Xi etc. "America First" is not good for US-EU relations. The basic US idea that the US can tell the EU were to get energy (against US$) is wrong !)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m0yZHbXnv0 Israeli News Live doubts about Turkey's plans. Is it acting as a NATO-member/US proxy in Syria or is it working with Iran against (US backed) Kurds ? (DJ; Turkey and NATO seem to be on collisioncourse-Erdogan a few years ago was supporting IS against the Kurds-even a slavemarket for Yezidi's in Gaziantep-East Turkey. Turkeys main interest is the fight against the Kurds-that is a constant.)



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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-19/wests-demise-sidelines-history Lack of realism by the "west"is harming the west most. The US-petro-$ is history, global trade will be dominated by China-Asia. Yet the "west" does not want to deal with this new situation fully. Major companies do react and see chances on the Eur-Asia market.

https://turkey.liveuamap.com/ Turkey is getting more and more involved in Syria against the Kurds. DJ-When Syria, Iran, Iraq, Russia have to believe Erdogan-Turkey is on their side Turkey has to proof itself. Both Iraq and Syria want to have the Kurds under government control. Also other "moderate rebel groups" (like alqueda supported by the US) have to be dealt with. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_involvement_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_NATO Turkey has over a million military-only the US has a larger army. The location of Turkey is very strategic-north the Black Sea and the Ukraine, east, Iran-Iraq-Syria, south the Mediterrean Sea west Greece the Balkan-countries. 

NATO may not survive a Turkey-Exit. http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2016/07/turexit-turkey-leave-nato-160721105010182.html https://www.quora.com/What-would-happen-if-Turkey-leaves-NATO Major energytransport goes via Turkey from the Middle East-Russia to the EU. http://time.com/4457369/the-u-s-and-nato-need-turkey/ Certainly when this exit means Turkey joining a block of Russia-Iran-Syria-the whole NATO strategy would have failed. https://www.quora.com/Will-NATO-collapse-if-Turkey-leaves-NATO https://www.quora.com/Who-needs-the-other-more-NATO-or-Turkey
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Israel and Saudi Arabia getting isolated in the Middle East-even for the US a war with Iran is to much of a job. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-20/saudi-israeli-friendship-driving-rest-middle-east-together

In SE Asia Cambodia is closing its door for US "aid" when that brings US demands. Also Viet Nam could be interested in making deals with China. http://theduran.com/political-changes-cambodia-make-us-nervous-vietnam-policy/

Assad meets Putin to discuss post IS Syria https://www.rt.com/news/410467-putin-assad-meet-syria/
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