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Financial war

China and Russia increased their trade and can back their currencies with gold. Domestic consumer demand is growing-limited debt-burdens. The US$ was important for energy deals-not any longer-even Saudi Arabia is doing (some) energydeals in other currencies. (Most if not all in Yuan-China is the largest energy buyer-but can use Yuan with Iran, Russia-proberbly Malaysia, Indonesia would welcome investments in exchange for oil as well). 

The US consumer is in much debt, the US economy has "outsourced"much of its production to low wages-countries. The US has been spending "zillions" on wars-not enough on its own infrastructure, education, healthcare. Money printed out of thin air was used (by a rich elite (the belief that the rich can pull an economy out of the swamp is insane-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickle-down_economics-it only increased the inbalance) on the stock-exchange. Of course that buble will burst. 

After that collapse the US will find a whole new world in wich the US is marginalized-at best. Turkey-Russia-Iran-China (TRIC) taking over EurAsia and Africa-even Latin America. 

The US should accept their now position but can the "elite" accept that ? Can they dump their US interests to take part in the new economy ? They-as always-will find ways-most of the time. 

Still there is the risk of the US enforcing on the world an outdated US-petro-dollar system-if needed by war(s) larger than the wars going on right now. http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/01/14/548843/US-President-Donald-Trump-White-House-China-trade-NAFTA-Robert-Lighthizer and http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/01/14/548846/US-president-Donald-Trump-nuclear-strategy-Russia-threat (Old reflexes wich now only makes matters worse-the US should focus on it's strong points-innovation- http://theduran.com/you-may-be-flying-in-a-car-sooner-than-you-think/ and move away from very costly-US damaging-wars-Trump was elected for that !)

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US

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-13/army-strategist-exposes-disturbing-parallels-between-us-domestic-policing-military and https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-10/all-these-fking-excuses-baltimore-parents-lash-out-public-meeting-over-frozen The US elite has robbed the other US citizens-taken over both political parties-come up with a fake democracy in wich people have to vote for a criminal to become the next president. (Most European countries are not doing much better).

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https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/01/13/exclusive-trump-israel-and-the-iran-deal-duff-on-press-tv/ Israeli oil companies exploiting fields in US occupied zones in Syria, Iraq etc. The US getting out of the Iran-agrrement would harm relations with other NATO-partners.

The Iran-deal, "civil"wars in Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Yemen, Ukraine-all for (US)control on energy. It makes the US weaker-not stronger ! 
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Syria


When Turkey moves into northern Syria to avoid the US organizing a (most) Kurdish East-Syria state/west Syria Kurdish enclave it may result into war between US forces and Turkish forces in northern Syria. (The Kurds in one area will not wait to see the Turkish Army fighting Kurds in another area. It could set the whole Turkish-Syria-Iraq-Iran area in motion. Is this the plan from the US ? Create such a chaos that Iran-Syria-Turkey-Russia have a very big job extra ? A second major war-on top of the present wars in Iraq and Syria-will send millions of extra refugees to the EU. As a punishment for not supporting the US Jerusalem move ? This could end NATO in a worst case scenario.)

see also

https://www.rt.com/uk/415886-corbyn-us-special-relationship/ (Even the UK moving away from the present US/Trump plans)

US-Saudi-Israel (USI)

-Israel;
-Saudi;
-Yemen genocide;
-US;
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/01/14/intel-drop-sunday-january-14-2018/ (Trump his problem with women is part of a far bigger problem.)

The US is supporting Israel military actions in Lebanon and Syria, Saudi wars in (a.o.) Yemen. The US want to stay in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan to put pressure on (Turkey)-Russia-Iran-China. We have now a covert USI-TRIC war that is very likely to escalate. http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/15-january-kcna-kim-jong-un-chairman-of-the-state-a Assad sending a message of friendship to Kim/NK ! The present crisis is helping NK out of isolation. In the past NK did "help" countries like Pakistan, Syria, Libya, Iraq with their weaponsprogramm. "Old friends" looking after eachother in times of need. 

https://turkey.liveuamap.com/en/2018/14-january-according-to-nso-usa-sent-manpads-to-ypg-in-afrin Did the US send anti aircraft weapons to the YPG-Kurds in Syria ? (To be used against Assad forces but more likely against a NATO ally-Turkey. Possible a hoax ?)

India-Pakistan


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Economic war:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-14/japanese-purchases-us-treasurys-tumble (DJ-When all countries drop the US$, US-bonds, try to limit trade with the US-since the US is making trade with the US "very hard"-the US will collapse within weeks. You can not insult all muslim countries, make trade restrictions from China to EU-cars, insult "s..t h..e-countries, start a lot of wars, end all kind of international agreements (from NAFTA to Paris, Iran-deal) and expect the world to do bussiness like usual. Russia-China offer a better alternative. The US is moving towards the wrong side of an international red line.) On the article-the US moving towards QE-4 (printing more dollars from thin air) could start hyper inflation in the US-the poor will get extremely poor...the US on its way to a "failed state" with gang-wars destroying economics in US major cities ?
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Turkey is preparing military action in northern Syria. (DJ-Erdogan proberbly did have talks with Iran and Russia, Iran and Russia proberbly had talks with Assad. For Turkey-Russia-Iran-China-Syria TRICS the formation of a US-proxy state in East Syria is unacceptable. They may react in different ways. Turkey may already have their Turkman and other Turkish sponsored groups (doing the dirtywork for Turkey). 

For TRICS the removal of any US-presence in Syria and Iraq (no proxy-US-state there either) may be priority number one. Since Russia-Iran/Iraq-Syria want to avoid openly attacking US forces they may assist Turkey (still a NATO member) with logistics, info. Also the US forces may find the logistics getting (very) complicated. (The only way the US can get enough supplies would require conquering a land route via Jordan and/or Iraq (with more US "moderate rebels"-coming via Saudi Arabia ?)-Russia will deal with an IS-2 (under any name). 

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/01/weekly-review-and-open-thread-2018-02.html#comments Some of the comments see a military coup in Saudi Arabia. The way this country is ruled is "pretty insane".  Things will have to change one way or the other. A civil war inside KSA (between Sunni's, Shia, Wahabi's, several tribes) could be nearby. 

In Israel Netanyahu is not in a very strong position-the US-Trump-can not afford to get kicked out of the Middle East. 

The US has several bases in SDF-Syria. Those bases are the foundation of the SDF-republic-a US creation. Therefor those bases could be a main target to push the US out of Syria and Iraq. 

In such a scenario NATO would split. NATO-members most want to stay out of a conflict between the US and Turkey (in Syria-but who knows-US military action against Turkey itself-direct or via YPG/PKK ?)
The EU may expect another mass movement of refugees-while the millions of Turks in Europe will cause a lot of unrest. https://already-happened.com/2018/01/14/massive-mobilization-of-turkish-forces-toward-syrian-border/ and http://katehon.com/article/big-isis-and-sdf-lies-us-kurdistan-and-new-gas-wars

To make things more complicated; Syria does not want Turkish troops in Syria https://sputniknews.com/interviews/201801151060764981-syria-deputy-foreign-minister-mekdad-interview/ DJ-Turkey would like to have a working relation with the US but the US giving mobile air defense weapons to Kurdish fighters against Turkey, a border defense force of 30.000 man (most Kurdish) (after the Gülen-coup, Jerusalem move etc.) is as good as a declaration of war from the US.


Korea

DJ-The west is split on Korea as well. South Korea is having talks with the North but also with Russia (Moon-Putin-Plan)http://www.newsweek.com/putin-has-plan-avoid-war-north-korea-and-it-does-not-involve-trump-660410 and China. Almost all countries do not see any reason for US military action now. https://sputniknews.com/asia/201801151060768031-seoul-pyongyang-olympics-unification-flag/


Qatar


US wants to sell airdefense to Japan-relation with Hawaii false alarm ?


DJ-Turkey may go for a buffer militarized zone under Turkish army control to keep Kurdish "fighters" out. The US may even accept that. In return Turkey would give logistics to US troops in Syria as long as the US stops supporting the Kurds ? 

Problem is the US is not in Syria for the Kurds or even Assad-they are there to stop Russia and Iran. 





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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-15/us-urges-eu-fix-iran-deal-brussels-between-rock-and-hard-place DJ-The EU has growing bussiness interests in Iran and with Russia, China. Proberbly most-if not all-EU members may not give in to US demands (unless the US could swich/bribe a poor EU-member needing the US money and afraid of Russia).

Korea

https://www.rt.com/news/415513-north-south-korea-trump/ Peace is in reach without the US. So the US is starting their own peace-processes https://www.rt.com/news/416027-us-canada-korea-summit/ without Russia and China. 

Borders


Syria

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/01/16/549079/Syria-Turkey-Afrin, http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/01/syria-us-commits-to-occupation-traps-itself-and-helps-to-sustain-the-astana-agreement.html# (Good comments; DJ-the US had enough time to build stocks in East Syria, air-transport (from Israel, Jordan over enemy territory)may bring enough basic supplies-if not attacked US (proxy) forces may be able to stay in East Syria for up to two years ?)




Egypt-Sudan

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-15/5-reasons-why-egypt-and-sudan-might-be-about-go-war (Both now have good relations with Russia-so Russia has to find a solution, Egypt also friend of UAE/KSA, Sudan with Turkey) One of the conflicts is over a dam in the Ethiopian Nile-Egypt has troops in Eritrea-a conflict would involve the east-of-Africa. https://africa.liveuamap.com/en/2018/12-january-sudan-officially-announces-potential-security

India

https://sputniknews.com/asia/201801161060785381-india-israel-explore-new-avenues/ India-with Japan, Taiwan, Gulf States and Israel "pro-US"? 

Pakistan

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Syria
any help for them will not do much)
Israel/US/IS coalition-US (Israel never stopped) will start arming "moderate rebels" because Iran and Russia are still in Syria (and for the USI-coalition the war is against Iran, Russia even China-New Silk Road in Iran, Pakistan, Turkey) https://www.debka.com/fading-trump-putin-trust-derails-de-escalation-zones-syrias-borders-israel-jordan/ (https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrian-army-breaks-rebel-lines-south-aleppo-almost-reaching-idlib-front/ "moderate rebels" may be weakened that much 
Syria-Turkey border https://southfront.org/turkeys-sikorsky-helicopter-dodges-pkk-gudided-missile-video/ (DJ-PKK in Syria all of a sudden YPG for the US ?)
https://www.rt.com/news/416090-nato-turkey-border-force-syria/ Turkey wants to know what NATO thinks of US Syria-plans
DJ-Panama, Kuwait also are created countries-only "East Syria"is a US-Saudi-Israel fabrication against Turkey-Russia-Iran-China-USI and TRIC will collide over west Asia.

Korea

https://sputniknews.com/asia/201801161060800192-us-n-korea-pressure-tillerson/ (DJ-That US pressure presses South Korea to talks with the North, China, Russia-away from the US (and Japan).

N-E Africa

A new disease that allegedly leaves up to 40 percent of those affected dead is feared to be spreading across South Sudan and Uganda, with dozens of new cases registered in recent months.


Former Yugoslavia


Ukraine


Financial War

[urlhttps://southfront.org/china-downgrades-us-credit-rating-bbb-warns-us-insolvency-detonate-next-crisis/[/url] and https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-16/trump-tells-xi-disappointed-surging-trade-deficit-china US-China trade war coming.

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http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/01/open-thread-2018-03.html#-good comments. 

Turkey is planning to start a major invasion of Syria. http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/01/17/549191/Turkey-Syria-Afrin-Manbij

More sanctions and more pressure on non-present Russia and China to do more-mainly buying time. Korea https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/jan/13/south-and-north-korea-discuss-joint-womens-ice-hockey-team-for-olympics is doing the talking to avoid the fighting.


http://theduran.com/natos-operation-atlantic-resolve-marches-close-towards-russias-borders/ "To stop Russian agressian NATO moved towards Russian borders", started wars in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Yugoslavia, Ukraine, Afghanistan, Yemen, etc-all to "stop Russian agression"-the Warsaw-pact ended in 1991-can we please get rid of NATO-it is out of control !

On the coming Turkish invasion; 

-First strike will be airforce/artillery against Kurdish targets (possibly also even in Iraq-JD)
-The goal is to be "shock and awe", "fast and furious", Turkey can not afford to get many Turkish soldiers killed.
-Erdogan wants to make the Turkish position clear towards "the west"-no US help for Kurds, thank you EU for keeping is out.
-When possible NATO will go on "as normal" even Turkish (second largest in NATO) Army may do collatoral damage to US (first largest in NATO) army. 
-Turkey will have had talks with Russia and Iran-they will have had talks with Syria. A Turkish invasion in Northern Syria (and maybe Iraq) may be the starting point for "the Poland 1939 scenario"  with Turkish Army moving from the North, Syrian, Iran, Iraq, Hezbollah, Russian (air)forces moving from the South-to crush the Kurds.
- The Kurds have two options-fight and loose or start talking on conditions in wich they can get integrated in Syria (and Iraq).
-Turkey has been making plans for intervention in Syria for over 5 years (in the beginning with Saudi Arabia/US), still is anti-Assad but more anti-Kurdish seperatists.
-There are several reports-last two years-of Turkish Kurds fighting with Syria/Iraq Kurds. (The number of Kurds in Syria pre-war was much to low to explain the large portion of Kurdish fighting in Syria.)
-The US and Israel are behind the plans for an Eastern Syria state. They will react military.

With the US and Israel joining the war against Russia and Iran in Syria and Iraq other scenario's (including other fronts Korea, Ukraine, former Yugoslavia) could unfold.
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Korea

Just like the two Germany's in 1956, 1960, 1964 had a united German team https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Team_of_Germany Korea will have a joint woman ice-hocky team http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2018/01/16/0401000000AEN20180116009957315.html under a unification flag. 

It took 25 more years-in 1989-for Germany to reunite, with some luck the Korea's can do better !

Syria


https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201801171060833371-turkey-us-kurds-syria/ Turkey is maximizing pressure on the US to disarm the Kurds in Syria-if need be the Turkish army will do that job. 

Palestine

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False Flag

On The Hal Turner Radio Show, I provided TWO different reports from DIFFERENT covert Intelligence Sources about what actually took place over the past weekend, causing the Emergency Alert System (EAS) to be triggered, warning Hawaiians to take cover immediately due to an incoming missile attack.

BOTH sources tell me that a missile __was actually__ launched, triggering the EAS.

BOTH sources tell me the missile was fired from a submarine.

BOTH sources tell me the inbound missile was successfully INTERCEPTED.

BOTH sources tell me the submarine which fired that missile was subsequently attacked and destroyed.

Where the sources differ is on WHO fired and WHY they fired.

Both sources provide plausible explanations about why . . .  and both plausible explanations are utterly terrifying: Someone is deliberately trying to start a war.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-17/brandon-smith-olympic-games-south-korea-perfect-opportunity-false-flag-attack">https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-17/brandon-smith-olympic-games-south-korea-perfect-opportunity-false-flag-attack

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-17/jim-rickards-warns-bursting-bubble-could-break-world">https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-17/jim-rickards-warns-bursting-bubble-could-break-world

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Korea

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-17/us-deploys-tactical-communications-scrambling-plane-south-korea DJ-A false flag-or real attack by NK-would be welcomed by some to start a war-maybe limited to Korea-but to stop Russia and China from gaining influence around the globe.
-the means are there:https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-17/skunk-works-exec-hints-us-hypersonic-bomber-has-already-been-made SR-72 can go mach 6-hypersonic weapons can strike that fast limiting reaction time

DJ-With "false alarms" in Hawaii and Japan "due to a person pushing the wrong button" and NK and US claiming NK is able and willing to attack the US (some doubt NK can do so)-North and South Korea having talks on better relationships-with Russia and China making offers for an economic program for East-Asia (excluding the US)-the US does feel the pressure and need to react. 

Middle East

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-17/tillerson-pledges-open-ended-military-presence-syria-counter-iran and https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201801171060835048-turkey-syria-border-security-force/ DJ-The US is not talking to Iraq about the "Border Security Force", Turkey will not accept this BSF. http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/01/18/549289/un-chief-jcpoa-trump "The world" does not accept the US/Trump stand on Iran, Jerusalem (or Korea, Ukraine, others). 
A "false flag" in the Middle East would fit Israel/Netanyahu's anti-Iran talk. The US got itself into a big mess in the Middle East. "Iran blowing up the Knesset-Israel parliament in West Jerusalem"or something like that would unite "the (pro-western) world behind the US-Saudi-Israel (USI) coalition. 


DJ; At the moment Russia and China are winning the (not so) "Cold War" with the US. Given Trump his earlier decissions (support KSA and Israel, war of words with NK, anti-Islam-talk) and the link between energy and the US$, the unwillingness to look for new roads, inability to have talks with Russia and China (etc)-the belief in US being superior both in weapons and as a system-war is getting more on the horizon every day. https://clock.thebulletin.org/

To put it a bit sharper-Russia and China are kicking the US out of (much of) the Middle East and South Korea. The usual US answer is war.
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DJ; to make my point clear, Afghanistan just one of many examples (Iraq, South Korea, Libya, Syria)from http://katehon.com/article/trump-afghan-policy-aimed-taliban-or-china

China plans: 

For its part, the current government in Kabul is very eager to discuss joining China’s Economic Silk Road project. In October, 2017 Kabul hosted a forum of mayors of cities along the historic silk road and discussed the prospects of joining the China project. Among the projects in discussion between China, Pakistan and Afghanistan a Peshawar-Kabul motorway, the Landi Kotal-Jalalabad Railway, the Chaman-Speen Boldak Railway, a hydropower dam on Kunar River, the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan electricity transmission line, and the trans-Afghan highway to Central Asia from Peshawar, Pakistan. These projects, along with the Logar-Torkham Railway line, would be a part of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor. Clearly this would create a far more stable dynamic than the present US strategy of endless fighting.

US:

Washington these days has little positive to offer to the nations of Afghanistan or Pakistan. Threats, more troops, cuts in aid are not what is gaining the interest of those countries. Economic development is, and there is no development more attractive than that of building infrastructure corridors linking Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, and potentially Turkey to China, Russia, select EU economies to create entire new markets and industries. To try to stop this is the real background to Washington’s recent military reversal in Afghanistan and its pressure on Pakistan, not the Taliban.


The security zone America intends to establish in Syria is doomed to fail sooner or later. How can this assertion be made and what can it be based on? Well, two main things really; history and facts on the ground.

America’s seven-decade long post WWII intensive and consecutive military gambles have all failed, and without a single exception. And even though America has learnt a big lesson in Vietnam and went into Iraq more prepared; not only in terms of fire power, but also in terms of media control and manipulation of public opinion, it also failed there. And to think that it also learned from the mistakes of the USSR in Afghanistan and adopted more lethal and effective military tactics that should work, they also failed. So why should an alleged army of 30,000 odd Kurdish YPG fighters with ill-defined American support achieve what much bigger fighting forces couldn’t?

But not only is this army that America is trying to build and establish much less potent than former similar armies, but it is also surrounded by many more opponents.

So let’s get this right. In comparison to what happened in Iraq in 2003 when America invaded, it had over 150,000 troops, state-of-the-art military hardware, a huge fleet of multinational attack ships and huge array of fighter jets and bombers, a bottomless budget and no real Iraqi army nor any resistance in existence. Yet, in no time, an “insurgence” sprouted from nowhere turning life on Iraqi soil into hell for the armies of the coalition. In short, even though Saddam was toppled, the invasion failed abysmally in achieving its full objectives.

Now, with an army of a meagre 30,000 Kurdish troops supported by America, the odds of winning against a coalition of the Syrian Army plus its allies are much less likely, if not impossible.

Some may argue that Kurds are hardened fighters and that they know the terrain very well. Whilst this is true, we need to stop and look at Syria and its allies because they too, at least most of them, are not any less hardened and locally savvy.

And speaking of America’s support, there’s no telling as to what extent it will be; let alone for how long.

Historically again, America has turned its back many times on its allies in similar circumstances, and the Kurds specifically are not strangers to finding themselves on the receiving end of betrayal by many of their former allies; including the Americans.

(DJ-On the title of this article; Erdogan of Turkey wants to be both: Islamist and Nationalist but he has to choose between supporting Sunni-extremists and the New Silk Road (with not much Islam involved)-time is ticking. Given the Turkish secular elite inside Turkey Erdogan needs to work with Russia and China to save his own head.)
 
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Syria

https://turkey.liveuamap.com/ Turkey getting more active on Turkey-Syria border.

https://www.rt.com/news/416278-syria-turkey-planes-threat/ Syria "not happy" with more Turkish intervention (against "Syrian" Kurds-DJ-quite a lot of the Kurds now fighting in Syria come from Turkey-some of them have PKK-links). https://southfront.org/turkey-says-will-coordinate-military-operation-afrin-iran-russia/ Russia now invites Kurds-as individuals-to Sochi peacetalks (not as members/representatives of Kurdish groups). 

https://www.rt.com/news/416316-afrin-turkey-offensive-kurds/ Most of the fighting will be done by "pro-Turkish rebels in Syria" (or Turkish soldiers acting like rebels-including special forces). Turkish-US relations will not get better soon.



DJ- Turkey may start an intervention in northern Syria and Iraq soon. If in that operation US soldiers will get killed for Turkey "the US should not have been there in the first place". Syria claim they will try to stop the Turkish army and airforce but Syria, Iran and Russia want Syria undivided-if that means a war against the Kurds (by Turkey) and also getting rid of US troops "so be it". (They will not stop Turkey, may even share information. Goal is to get the Kurds accepting Syria and Iraq as a state. If they do not do that a war with the Kurds is the consequence.)




East Asia

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-18/despite-denials-us-officials-show-6-chinese-ships-secretly-breaking-north-korean (DJ- China is allowed to transfer a very limited amount of oil to NK-to keep society going-not the military. But that transfer has to go via land.) https://southfront.org/chinese-naval-aviation-developing-a-viable-carrier-borne-strike-capability/

India


DJ-China-Pakistan work increasingly closer together. Iran and Afghanistan are getting involved. India has China in the north and a growing Islamic block of nations working with China in the west. (And there is also http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/politics/article/2105440/11-projects-show-chinas-influence-over-malaysia-and-could) Tensions with one are related to the other. India not happy with China may create "incidents" on the India/Pakistan border. https://pakistan.liveuamap.com/en/2018/18-january-pakistan-2-innocent-women-killed-and-5-civilian

India-for the moment is working with the US and Israel, Japan-but long term relations are with Russia. (In India Hindu-extremists are in the government https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/07/gauri-lankesh-murder-hindu-extremists-hate-crime-minorities

https://kashmir.liveuamap.com/ The Kashmir conflict is not only between India and Pakistan-China is also involved. 


Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !
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