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US-Russia;

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-31/pcr-washington-reaches-new-heights-insanity-kremlin-report DJ-As long as an "elite" in the US is in power that wants to "rule the world"; tell Russia and China what to do-or else....we are on our way to global confrontation.

-frontlines:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-31/taiwan-holds-live-fire-war-drills-amid-fears-china-invasion China will attack Taiwan when the US Navy visits Taiwan (de facto recognizing Taiwan as "China")
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-31/ukraine-tests-fires-first-ever-cruise-missile-aimed-neutralizing-russian-aggressors DJ-The present Ukraine "junta" is in permanent crisis-dependend on Russia for energy(transport-income) but at the same time not willing to have serious peaca-talks. (DJ-More than 10% of the Ukraine population left Ukraine-partly to Russia.)
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/01/31/550856/Russia-US-Iran-missile-Yemen-war and [url] DJ-Houthi's in Yemen did get missiles from North Korea in 2015-had a lot of missiles from before the Saudi invasion. 
https://www.debka.com/mivzak/us-anti-missile-systems-deployed-across-israel-juniper-cobra-drill/ DJ-History shows Israel can live in peace with its neighbours. But when Israel attacks Syria, Lebanon-countries that did not attack Israel-at least part of the problem is in Israel. 

DJ-The "new" "cold" "war" is in fact old, hot and split up in several wars. An elite seems to want to control all energy-resources of the globe ? The US-now-is their instrument of choice ?
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Middle East

DJ-The foundation for further escalation (by the US, Israel) is being laid. The goal is:
-Get Russia and Iran "under control"
-Get the oil/gas
-Save the petro-dollar
-Stop China's New Silk Road

U.S.-Russia


U.S.-China

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/02/02/550971/China-is-getting-a-foothold-in-Latin-America-Tillerson DJ-US/China in conflict over North Korea, Taiwan, South China Sea, New Silk Road (involving Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, Turkey)...

Syria

https://southfront.org/government-troops-deploy-within-16-km-from-strategic-town-of-saraqib-map-update/ DJ, The pro-Assad forces in NW Syria are fighting Turkish (and US)backed "alquada""moderate terrorists". Those "rebels" are also fighting the Kurds. Turkey did send a convoy in support of their "rebels" and "not happy" with Syrian offensive. http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/02/syria-erdogans-bashibazouk-ravage-afrin.html#,
https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-february-1-2018-tiger-forces-break-militants-defense-in-eastern-idlib/ (DJ-pro-Assad forces pushing "moderate US/Turkey-backed-terrorists" out of NW Syria. Turkey will have a lot to explain to both Russia and the US.)
DJ-Growing US-Russia confrontation in Syria.

Iraq

https://southfront.org/iraqi-army-receives-first-batch-of-t-90s-battle-tanks-from-russia-reports/ DJ-Iraq defense is getting more and more support from Iran, Russia.

U.S.

http://theduran.com/us-switzerland-most-corrupt-nations/ DJ, The wars the U.S. now is fighting damage most US citizens, only makes money for a very small group. Time for regime-change in the U.S. !
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Syria

https://www.debka.com/mivzak/rift-widens-us-russia-syria/(pro-Assad forces preparing operation in SW-Syria ?)
DJ-The pro-Assad forces are using Free Syrian Army (alquada, Turkmen etc) fighting the Kurds in NW Syria with starting a major offensive. http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/2-february-units-from-saa-5th-corps-are-preparing-to-move Syria and Kurds are having talks-with Russia and Iran also playing a role-on how to react on Turkish invasion. Giving in to Assad may end all dreams on a Kurdish State-not giving in on the long term-may bring the same under Turkish pressure. 

U.S.-Russia

http://russia-insider.com/en/100-years-ago-us-troops-attacked-russias-pacific-coast-and-committed-atrocities/ri22341 DJ-After World War 1 Russia did see a civil war lasting to 1922 with Japan and the US sending forces-engaging in fights. Also mention of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_War 1853-56 When Russia tried to gain ground in the Ottoman-empire (and did get US-help against the UK, France, Turkey.)

East-Asia


Ukraine


US Middle East peace plan


Afghanistan

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/02/02/551026/Ghani-Afghanistan-Pakistan-Kabul-Taliban DJ-With the US having problems with almost all countries in the region Afghanistan may look for others (China, Iran, Russia, Pakistan) to get out of the war. Accusing Pakistan of supporting terrorists by the US-backed Kabul regime does not solve much. https://pakistan.liveuamap.com/en/2018/2-february-pakistan-is-the-center-of-taliban-ghani

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War plans

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-02/can-impending-collapse-russiagate-halt-slide-toward-nuclear-1914 DJ-The US claims a first-use of nuclear weapons "right"-this lowers the treshold for a nuclear conflict. 

The US is standing "on the top of a mountain" pushing away Russia and China-but knowing they may have to give up their "top-position" at the end "unless....Internet-problems"a cyberattack"-could provide an excuse for Mutual Assured Destruction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_assured_destruction

Looking at history major wars show up from time to time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_War. War was politics with military means. 



Basicly-looking at history;
1-The western coup in Ukraine against a democratic pro-Russian president
2-The Russian intervention in Syria after the western attempt for regime-change (so the EU would by Arab energy not Russian)
4-the western invasions in Afghanistan-2001, Iraq 2003
by themselves could have started a global conflict. 


Politics (both in the west and in Russia, China) has fallen-again-in the hands of a rich elite. 

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-02/why-albert-einstein-thought-we-were-all-insane DJ-We as humans may need to rethink our activities-since we are destroying our home(planet). 

I was trying to put some news on international affairs on this forum that is not covered (enough, correctly-or in an other way) by main-stream media. Pandemics and wars are correlated. The Spanish-Flu had everything to do with World War 1, the 14th century plague came from the Crimea-1343 (starting in Central Asia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death also with Silk Road/War-links. 

I am thinking of an other way to deal with this item. Linking wars with diseases-trying to make a readable, workable presentation (putting it in a historical context). We are all humans-our main goal should be to give the next generations a liveble future and planet. Modern technology makes "nation-thinking" and old-fashioned "politics" an obstacle for a better future. 
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After the shooting down of a SU-25 in NW Syria by "moderate alquada-western armed-rebels" the war in Syria is escalating. 

In NW Syria:
-Kurdish held area more Kurdish forces have arrived from other Kurdish sectors in East Syria and Iraq (2000 to 5000 fighters) to fight against the Turkish Army and pro-Turkish "rebels" (including Turkmen but also alquada-linked groups/some former IS-elements). The Assad government allowed those Kurdish fighters to travel via government territory.

-south of the Kurdish held area-"rebel" controled Turkey is moving its army to "stabilize"the area, working with pro-Turkish "rebels" that are fighting pro-Assad forces. 
Russia did sent special forces to deal with the "rebels" that did shoot down the SU-25, find out were the airdefense came from. 

DJ-de facto-pro-Assad forces, including Iranian, Hezbollah and Russian forces are fighting Turkish (led) forces in NW Syria. The Damascus/Moscow goal may be to "clean up" the area. In doing so they also support the Kurds that are fighting the same groups. Rex Tillerson is expected to visit Turkey to talk on the situation-Russia seems to be doing something. (Damascus is trying to win Kurdish support-the Kurds can show themselves as loyal to Assad-but fighting in self-defence against IS). 

In Israel a joint Israel/US "exercise" is on its way to drill for a two-front war with Israel fighting in Gaza and Lebanon/Syria. During these exercises with the US Israel keeps shooting missiles at the Damascus-area in Syria. 

With the US "relocating" forces from Iraq ro Afghanistan in my opinion the US is slowly realizing the "difficult position" it has both in Syria and Iraq. For the moment-and for different reasons-all countries in that region would like the US to leave the region. Turkey does not want the US to work with Kurds. Syria and Iraq do not want a Kurdish state-Iran and Russia do not want US bases in the region. 

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China/Korea

(DJ-Syria is the US-Russia-conflict area, Korea is the US-China-conflict area. Just like Turkey, South Korea may switch sides willing to make deals with the growing Asia market.)

Financial war

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-06/market-earthquake-coming-icahn-warns-lot-people-will-pay-price-1929 (DJ-it is speculation on where profits go for bitcoins etc. it might be North Korea was making a lot of money out of it.)
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Syria


DJ; Syria and Russia claim they are fighting IS related forces in SE-Syria, the US claims those fighters are "moderate rebels". Given the history of the war in Syria former IS-groups may change names and join "US backed moderate rebels".


https://www.debka.com/mivzak/new-iranian-weaponized-drone-deployed-syria-likely-handed-hizballah/ DJ-Both US and Israel see all kind of reasons to keep the Syria war going on-to fight Iran, Russia, China's New Silk Road. 

DJ-With Assad working with the Kurds the US seems to split up the Syrian Democratic Forces in Sunni's and Kurds. Now giving Sunni's (partly former IS-tribes) support in fighting Assad. This may get out of control. Both Israel and US are looking for further escalation by their provocations and (false) claims.
Build-up of US forces during the US flu epidemic may spread the A-H3N2 virus in the Middle East. 

Korea

https://www.rt.com/newsline/418188-korea-olympics-kim-sister/ SK PM Moon to meet NK delegation at the winter olympics. 

South China Sea

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Syria

Moon of Alabama http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/02/syria-us-may-have-arranged-self-defense-attack-on-syrian-government-forces.html# has the story on how the US misused a local gasfield transfer to attack Syrian forces. DJ-With the US planning to stay both in Syria, Iraq (and Afghanistan) to block the New Silk Road, hinder local peace-process the US is playing with fire. 

Syria, Iraq, Iran, Russia, Turkey want the US out of the region. Proberbly within days the US will find out what happens when they do not give in. (Proberbly by-proxy or covert warfare. My estimate-DJ-is that the Kurds do not see that much reason to expect much from the US in the region. Russia/Syria may come with a better, more credible offer. With limited logistics and sources for support in Jordan, Israel US troops in Syria and Iraq are NOT safe.)

With Russia making a very special deal with Lebanon-by wich Russia can use Lebanese (air)ports, joint excersises Russia is taking over more parts of the Middle East. 

More US/Israeli agression against Syria/Lebanon/Iran may cause "unforseen action". The US and Israel should try to avoid "such action".

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Russia calls US action war-crime (DJ-The US is not invited by the Syrian government, the 2003-Iraq-WMD-war was against international law. https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201802081061481714-us-syria-attacks/)

US-Russia/China

DJ-New arms race includes electronic warfare, cyber warfare, hypersonic weapons, space war etc. Several countries also into bio- and chemical-warfare. 

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https://www.rt.com/news/418281-illegal-us-presence-syria-crime/

DJ-The basics for a global conflict-worse than any time in history-are being laid. The US and Israel-with India-are forming an anti-Muslim coalition. Trump sticking to Jerusalem as capitol of Israel is pushing countries like Pakistan, Indonesia (largest Muslim nation in the world), Turkey and even Jordan away from the "west".


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DJ-A US attack on Korea during the winter-olympics is very unlikely. Today delegations from North- and South-Korea will have talks on lots of issues. From enabling family-reunification-"moments" to military issues. Most likely the Moon-Putin-Plan will be part of the talks. 

DJ-In my opinion; 1-Russia and China may be willing to give guarantees for Korea to lift the need for nuclear weapons.
2-Russia and China may be willing to give a united Korea access to their markets, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization etc. opening-more or less-a market of more than 4 billion consumers.
3-Russia, China and Korea will have talks on how to deal with Japan, under wich conditions Japan could join the New Silk Road-economic program. 
4-Russia and China will try to put pressure on South Korea "to distance itself" from the military side of its relations with the US. 

DJ-Russia and China will not be at the Korea-talks-it will (and has to be) a Korean program. But Russia and China have been creating pre-conditions for a peacefull way out of the Korea-crisis. 
On the other hand the US keeps up its conflict modus to Russia and China, making any kind of peacefull cooperation for Korea impossible. The US supporting rearmament of Japan, better (military) contact with Taiwan, not accepting China in the South China Sea has been pushing China and Russia to eachother, did push the Philipines away from the US-now is pushing away even South Korea. 

The lack of US understanding that war is an unwelcome perspective-anywere in the world-is shocking !

A new Muslim aliance

By the US pushing for a global acceptance of Jerusalem-the third holiest place in Islam-as capitol of a Jewish State the US now is starting to push Muslim countries against the US. Once the difference between Sunni and Shia-Islam was making a united Muslim-front impossible. Now Turkey, Iran, Pakistan may form a bases for an anti US-Muslim aliance. 

India at present is ruled by Hindu-fanatics-joining Israel and the US in an anti-Islam aliance. (India is supporting the Myanmar government-eventhough that government is "in conflict" with its Muslim minority. Muslim Bangla Desh, but also the largest Muslim country-Indonesia-are moving away from "the west".) The Muslim Gulf States are split on Qatar, working with Iran, the Yemen-war. 

In Syria the downing of an Israeli F16-after the US attack on pro-Assad forces near Deir Ezzor that were attacking an IS cell may give a hint on what to expect. Syria may get tired of US and Israel action in/against Syria.

Links;

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-february-9-2018-syrian-army-purged-isis-terrorists-in-northeastern-hama/ (The US killed mostly pro-Assad Arab-tribe-fighters in their anti-IS action. The attack(s) were not coordinated with Russia.)
The EU will not follow the US in anti-Iran sanctions. (DJ-France/Macron may be willing to support limited US attacks on Syria. With a new (weak) German government we have to wait and see how the EU-US relations may unfold. Germany and most EU countries need Russian energy.)

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War Israel-Syria

After shooting down an Israeli F16 by Syria during a first wave of Israeli anti Iran-actions (deep) inside Syria-a second wave of Israeli airstrikes in Syria is on its way. 

DJ-The US has a base in Israel, a pressence fo major drills. Israeli actions in Syria at this moment are not coincidence but may be an Israeli plan to start a major US-Iran-war. https://twitter.com/ejmalrai/status/962191002122498049twitter from a reporter in the war-zone. (Things look very ugly at the moment. A US-Russia/Iran war may be the worst case scenario).

MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Israel Defense Forces (IDF) have struck 12 targets in Syria, including Syrian air defense batteries and Iranian military facilities during second wave of attack, the IDF said Saturday.

"The IDF is striking numerous (12) Syrian and Iranian military targets in Syria, in response to Iranian aggression," IDF spokesman Jonathan Conricus said on Twitter.

​Earlier in the day, an Israeli helicopter downed an Iranian drone after it crossed into the Israel-occupied Golan Heights and struck at what the Israeli military said were Iranian targets in Syria, prompting Syrian fire.

https://www.debka.com/mivzak/netanyahu-leads-urgent-military-conference-tel-aviv/

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http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/02/syria-is-war-with-israel-imminent.html

Should Israel escalate to a bigger war it will be covered with hundreds of missiles per hour. Normal civil life would come to a stand still. Lebanon and Syria would also be under severe attacks but are better positioned to endure such a situation.

Russia, as well as the U.S., could be come involved and into direct conflict. This must be avoided at all cost. But the current personal in White House, especially the military triumvirate behind the president, is of dubious quality. Moscow is hopefully aware of this.


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Israel claims Russia involved in downing Israeli F16 https://www.debka.com/russian-troops-involved-iranian-syrian-clash-israel/

Syria https://sana.sy/en/?p=126849 claims more Israeli planes hit (DJ maybe an Israeli Apache helicopter hit ?)

http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/10-february-new-israeli-attack-is-taking-place--jets-can Israel used Lebanon airspace for attacks on Syrian and Iranian targets in Syria. 


https://southfront.org/isis-repels-israeli-backed-attack-in-southern-syria-launches-successful-counter-attack-photos/ DJ-Israel is supporting "rebels" east of the Golan-heights. It wants to keep away Hezbollah and Iran from the Israeli/Golan-border. 

DJ-The coming hours will show if these "incidents" will go to an all-out war. (And when it moves into a Syria-Israel war or (much) larger).
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http://theduran.com/syria-shoots-israeli-f-16-military-balance-balance-middle-east-shifting/ Syria shooting down 1 (or 2 ?) Israeli Defense Force (IDF) planes may come as a shock for Israel. Israel claims the drone that started this war was Iranian-most likely it was Syrian (but made by Iran, controled by Iranians) checking on Israeli support for "rebels".



DJ-The US-Russia/Iran confrontation is-most likely-far from over. https://iran.liveuamap.com/en/2018/8-february-report-25-irainian-militia-were-killed-and-about The US airstrike two days ag o in Eastern Syria may have targeted Iranian forces. https://iran.liveuamap.com/en/2018/9-february-silo-launch-portal-at-imam-ali-missile-base-iran

This is BREAKING NEWS as of 1:33 PM eastern US time on Saturday, Feb. 10, 2018 (ALL UPDATES AT BOTTOM) -- After this morning's shoot-down of an Iranian Drone which crossed into Israeli airspace, the government of Israel launched eight F-16 fighter jets to attack the base in Syria from which that Drone had been launched.   

During the F-16 attack, Syrian air defenses were able to hit TWO Israeli F-16's, downing one INSIDE ISRAEL. (The Israelis sent their jets to the border between Israel and Lebanon, then fired missiles across Lebanon into Syria.  Syria anti-aircraft missiles traveled across Lebanon and into Israel to hit the attacking planes).

Later, Israel launched more F-16's to conduct additional attacks against what THEY say are "Iranian" bases in Syria, except one such base was also shared with Russia.  Upon coming under attack, RUSSIAN air defense missiles were launched against Israeli F-16's.   In addition, during that same later Israeli air assault, the Israelis found their planes had also come under attack from . . . .  LEBANON. 

There is a formal Media BLACKOUT on these operations; a blackout which the Hal Turner Radio Show is not obliged to honor - and is not honoring.

Just a few hours ago, Lebanon publicly announced they would no longer permit Israeli jets to fly into Lebanon, and any jet doing so WILL BE SHOT AT.

In response to these developments, Israel is now sending "massive" numbers of troops and heavy armor toward the Syria Border.

Israel is also opening BOMB SHELTERS in the northern part of the country and telling citizens to get inside them!

This morning's events are a MAJOR escalation on multiple fronts of the Middle East and unless things somehow calm down quickly, expect the worst.

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Ben Gurion Airport in Tel Aviv, Israel is now CLOSED due to Syria missiles having earlier reached the center of Israel.

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The Russian Federation has issued a statement which calls for all sides to show restraint.  The statement also explicitly warns Israel against any attacks in Syria where Russian forces may be deployed.

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The Al Khalkhala Airbase in southern Syria is now under heavy attack by Israel.  Multiple buildings reported destroyed, raging fires all over the base. A squadron of Israeli war-planes are currently carrying out Airstrikes on the Khalkhala airbase in S. Damascus Syria which is the home camp of several Iranians IRGC Soldiers & Hezbollah fighters. Sources on ground confirm huge explosions.
(DJ-No further confirmation on the Hal Turner story-yet-but it could be correct-and very serious)
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It looks like a fourth wave of Israeli airstrikes on Syria (Damascus, Aleppo area) saterday-evening (local time). 

sraeli military planes are NOW flying over Syria and bombing pro-Assad targets.

Journalists have been directly ORDERED not to report this.  

https://www.rt.com/news/418445-israeli-airstrikes-syria-dialogue/">https://www.rt.com/news/418445-israeli-airstrikes-syria-dialogue/:

Max Blumenthal, author and senior editor at The Real News, acknowledges that what took place on Saturday was a “dramatic incident,” and if the F-16 really did crash as a result of Syrian fire that would make it “the first Israeli plane that Syria has downed since 1982.”

But, he argues, it is not in Israel’s interest to escalate the conflict. “Benjamin Netanyahu was in the opposition when the Israeli government attacked southern Lebanon and lost to Hezbollah in 2006, and he fears another escalation in which Hezbollah is substantially stronger after the experience it’s gained on the Syrian battlefield,” Blumenthal told RT.

While Israel has once again routinely blamed the entire episode on the Iranians, Blumenthal believes Damascus might have finally lost its patience over constant violations of its sovereignty and the Israeli occupation of the Golan Heights.


http://thesaker.is/who-is-doing-what-in-syria-and-why/">http://thesaker.is/who-is-doing-what-in-syria-and-why/

DJ-At this moment "no news"means "preparations for further actions" on all sides. The only good thing seems to be that Russia is able to have some influence on Netanyahu-with also good contacts on the other countries involved. 

Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !
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https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/02/10/intel-drop-israeli-strike-on-syria-utter-failure/
DJ-If this information is correct http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/10-february-the-lebanese-army-the-remains-of-two-missiles and http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/10-february-one-of-the-fired-missile-fall-in-lebanonhasbaya-may be some proof-Israel found itself in serious trouble during the attacks on Syria. From the article:

-They report that the Israeli airstrike was a complete failure, that Syrian loses are very minimal with the only notable damage being a large explosion at a mortar depot near Damascus.

The Israeli airstrike was unable to penetrate far into Syrian airspace as the Israeli ECM systems failed to counter the Syrian radars, resulting in most Israeli warplanes dropping their weapon loads harmlessly over southern Syria due to the heavy fire from the Syrian Air Defenses.

The huge failure of the Israeli air strike, forced Tel-Aviv to launch another attack, however, that also failed ignominiously.

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This embarrassing failure by the Israelis to bomb Syria with impunity will have very serious repercussions not just in Tel-Aviv but in Washington as well. The Israeli aircraft – F-15s and F-16s are American, the same models that are still the backbone of the US airforce; furthermore, they use the same ECM (Electronic Counter Measures) to defend themselves from missiles that the US uses, in short, the Israeli airforce has all the same goodies that the US airforce uses.

Syria, perhaps with the assistance of it’s Russian and Iranian allies has just demonstrated to the world’s air forces that they now possess the capability to successfully defeat the current US aircraft and electronics systems, something that we already strongly suspected following the disabling of the USS Donald Cook in the Black Sea in 2014.

This is a truly game changing event; no longer can Israel and the US carry on their ‘gunboat diplomacy’ where they impose their will on nations through the threat and use of airstrikes as those nations will now be able to defend themselves effectively – no wonder the Saudis were so keen to buy the latest Russian air defence systems including the S-400 missile complex.

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Sources at the Pentagon tell VT that President Trump has been briefed on the Israeli failed attack.  For background, Israel has been working closely with Saudi Arabia and the US in bombing attacks on civilians in Yemen, honing ECM (Electronic Counter Measure) operations and tactics.

Israel was convinced they could attack Syria without consequence.  American military advisors totally concurred and Israel moved forward and got their tiny little yarmuka’s stuffed up their behinds.

The Pentagon told Trump Russia did it, using S400 and S300 systems under Russian command that were, according to some sources, unconfirmed sources, relocated south to cover Israel and Lebanon.

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These events push Netanyahu to either respond with tactical nuclear weapons, and we have information that the US is aware Israel is prepared to do exactly that, or use his press assets and lie his way out of it.  The current false reporting on Israel’s attacks is evidence that Netanyahu doesn’t want to see Syria strewn with Israeli plane wreckage again.

Russian pilots, we are told, are begging to burn Israel.  Russian planes in the sector outperform the F15 and F16 by some margin and hatred for Israel runs high in Russia’s military after years of seeing Israel work closely with ISIS.

DJ-If the VT story is correct both the US and Israel may be very limited in how to (re)act in Syria. But since this conflict is not (any longer) on Assad but on Iran, Russia, China new "frontlines" will show up. From the Persian Gulf, Ukraine, to South China Sea and India's borders with Pakistan, China (or even Bangla Desh). The conflict between the "East" and "West"escalated. US, Israel, Gulf States (and some others) are not likely to accept any form of Russian or Iranian "victory" (in Syria, Yemen or elsewere). 

Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !
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Financial War

Hal Turner; US banks stopped lending to eachother-forcing the banks to sell their shares on the stock-exchange creating a crash on the stock-exchange. Who is pulling away money from (US) banks ? 
DJ-A limited number of organizations is able to manipulate the market in this way. One "strategic motive" could be making it impossible for the US to find funding for its weapon/war-program. 
(A sort of "nuclear financial war"-in reaction on US decisions in foreign policy.)

China-U.S.

http://thesaker.is/chinas-latest-move-in-the-graveyard-of-empires/ Afghanistan building a base, paid for by China, in the China Afghanistan border region meant to block Uyghur/Chinese IS fighters from entering China. (Wether you call that an Afghan Army Base or a Chinese Base is a matter of words. China wants to increase its influence in Afghanistan. With Pakistan, Iran, Turkey it could become part of the China New Silk Road.)

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