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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-North_Korean_Mutual_Aid_and_Cooperation_Friendship_Treaty

Specifically, Article 2 of the treaty declares the two nations guarantee to adopt immediately all necessary measures to oppose any country or coalition of countries that might attack either nation.[4]

The treaty is in effect and automatically renews every 20 years. It has renewed in 1981 and 2001.[3][5] The most recent renewal will remain in effect until the year 2021.[6][5]

See also Israeli News Live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbdq0gFQ_ZE and https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3725 China drills near NK-border. 


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-21/south-korea-heightened-alert-north-prepares-major-army-event North Korean peoples Army gets 85 april 25 (so a nuclear test to celebrate that ?)


http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/21/518897/US-spy-planes-monitoring-possible-North-Korea-nuclear-test


https://already-happened.com/2017/04/21/kremlin-we-wont-discuss-reports-russian-troops-moving-towards-north-korea-border-ria/ (On Russian North Korean military cooperation see http://tass.com/defense/836146 :After two-day negotiations, Russia and North Korea signed an agreement on Thursday on preventing dangerous military activities. The document was signed by the head of the Russian delegation and Vice Chief of the Korean People’s Army O Kum Chol. The draft agreement was approved by the Russian government at the end of 2014.

During the visit, Russians commemorated Soviet soldiers at the "Liberation" monument in the North Korean capital. Honor Guard were called to perform their duties at the monument with inscription "Eternal glory to Great Soviet Army that freed Korean people from burden of Japanese militarists and opened path toward freedom and independence.")


Syria


https://www.rt.com/news/385515-lavrov-opcw-mission-syria-blocked/ 


http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/21/518868/Mattis-in-Israel-to-discuss-Iran-Syria


https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-april-20-2017-foreign-powers-to-increase-support-to-militants-in-syria/ 


DJ: The plan to split Syria in three parts, Kurdish-north, Sunni-east and Shia-west is still continuing. http://syria.liveuamap.com/ 



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Syria:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm2-kxnc1fU, http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20416/Israeli-army-strikes-Syrian-sources-of-mortar-fire-on-Golan, http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20415/Two-more-shells-drop-on-the-Golan, http://www.debka.com/article/26022/Mattis-leaves-Israel-with-unanswered-questions, https://www.rt.com/news/385658-un-commission-syria-chemical-versions/

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Afghanistan:


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Some music to compensate:
Russia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8slArpj_XU Beyond the quiet river-four Russian talented girls.
North Korea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twQKilaHBro Surfin in the DPRK-US surfers in North Korea

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Syria:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYAlEWVNpGo Long Israeli News live video-the US/UK is still preparing to "balkanize" (split up) Syria from Jordan. https://already-happened.com/2017/04/22/usns-mendonca-moored-at-port-corpus-christi-texas-while-us-soldiers-staging-military-vehicles-around-it/ Further US reinforcements being prepared. US troops still on board of US ships in Lebanon. 

http://www.voltairenet.org/article196033.html and http://www.voltairenet.org/article195989.html DJ: The US is preparing for a war with Iran. The troopmovements and sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia (for the western backed genocide in Yemen and Syria) is that large that there is a bigger plan behind it. 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-22/did-russia-shoot-down-us-missiles-syria, http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-22/krieger-american-empire-under-trump-has-become-increasingly-desperate-dangerous-inse and http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-22/yale-psychiatrists-just-warned-there-something-seriously-wrong-trump. DJ: The US position as the only "superpower" controlling the globe is being challenged by the Russian-Chinese coalition. This West-East confrontation has to end with one giving in to the other. That can go in peace, by limited wars or full scale wars. The outlook is not good at all !

North Korea: 


However, cooperative efforts by China and the US will under no circumstance evolve into any kind of military action against North Korea. Beijing will never support or cooperate with Washington when it comes to implementing solutions that involve using military force against Pyongyang. Nor will Beijing support increasing measures from Washington that involve the direct overthrow of the Pyongyang regime.

The US has not hesitated in the least to remind China that it hopes the country can utilize some sort of action in applying pressure upon North Korea; and should that not work, the US along with its allies will act by themselves to do the job. The underlying tone is clear in that Beijing better pursue all coercive measures possible in order to make Pyongyang give up its nuclear program, and that if that fails, the armies of the US and South Korea will act as they see fit.

The US should not stand by this so-called "first stage," merely waiting for some miracle to happen. Sanctions from Beijing will not inspire instant change over Pyongyang's nuclear program. Moreover, if Washington is not willing to take a flexible stand that guarantees security and peace, its stark warnings and sanctions will probably push Pyongyang to resist as best it can. As the old saying is understood, in order for a "stick" to achieve its desired goal, a "carrot" must be used at the same time.

Military action against North Korea is not an easy question to answer. If the blow is light, Pyongyang's military power would remain intact, and South Koreans could potentially face a revenge attack of some kind. One can only hope that Washington reaches out to Seoul for a second opinion. If the blow is heavy, the Chinese people will not allow their government to remain passive when the armies of the US and South Korea start a war and try to take down the Pyongyang regime. The Chinese will not let something like that happen, especially on the same land where the Chinese Volunteer Army once fought in the early 1950s. It is a land covered with the blood of Chinese soldiers who bravely fought in the early 1950s. Furthermore, if Pyongyang were to be taken by the allied armies of the US and South Korea, it would dramatically change the geopolitical situation in the Korean Peninsula.
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Originally posted by Dutch Josh Dutch Josh wrote:



May 9 will bring elections in South Korea. The leading candidate wants new talks with the north and distance between SK and the US.
That is definitely going to add to the tensions.  'Can't have that can we?  All the more reason to ramp things up from the US's side.
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Technophobe; also this discussion here http://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=9561.

NK is becoming an unacceptable risk for both the region and the US. Proberbly even China and Russia will agree with that. How to deal with it is the big international question. 

China (with over 80% of the trade with NK) has only recently (under Trump-pressure) made sanctions (coal import from NK) more strict. China claims that time could bring NK to reason. 

For China a nuclear (strongest so far) NK test not far from their border has become a risk. China needs trade for her New Silk Road-policy. A 1961 defense-treaty between China and NK is still valid. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-North_Korean_Mutual_Aid_and_Cooperation_Friendship_Treaty.

DJ: In my opinion military action against North Korea only could be an option when Russia-US-China cooperate. Under the given circumstances an unilateral action by the US will "worsen the ralitions" with China and Russia dramaticly. 

North Korea is believed to be able to use satllites for an EMP-strike (against the US, Japan ? https://www.intellihub.com/report-two-n-korean-satellites-are-capable-of-delivering-a-surprise-nuclear-emp-attack-on-u-s/), did have enough time to have agents in western countries for "actions" (nuclear and other https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction). 

The Korea"region" now is full of US, Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Russian etc. "material" (from submarines to listening devices, cyber-warfare weapons, nuclear sniffers, drones etc. ). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoB1_AWNgY0 INL NK-update.


http://38north.org/ and others are unable to tell what the outcome of this conflict will be. 


sangyong lee

For a few weeks, the transporter moves north every three minutes. l have never seen so many transports before

(DJ If you want peace you have to be ready for war-can bring you to war).



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DJ: Assad warned earlier that if Israel would do more airstrikes Syria would strike back with scuds. Both Turkey and Israel can not strike Syrian (Iran, Kurdish) targets without some role for the US. When YPG (and other Kurdish groups) stop cooperating with the US in Syria and Iraq-Russia taking over-the US may loose further ground in the Middle East. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4954576,00.html The Israel Air Force reportedly attacked an Iranian arms depot near the Damascus International Airport early Thursday morning, according to the Hezbollah-affiliated al-Manar television station.




https://komnews.org/ypj-spox-will-withdraw-raqqa-us-doesnt-show-concrete-reaction-turkey-airstrikes/ YPG-Kurds wants the US to put pressure on Turkey-may call for a no-fly zone

Korea:






France:

https://www.sott.net/article/349314-Alarming-voter-irregularities-reported-across-France-as-fears-mount-election-being-rigged DJ: Will the French elections become a repeat of the US elections with Macron as Clinton and Le Pen as Trump ? (A choice between the old elite and "change"(for the worse ?)



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Syria:


DJ: With both Israel https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2017/27-april-syria-confirms-israel-struck-a-military-compound and Turkey  https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2017/27-april-turkish-military-planes-are-flying-over-efrn-now "doing their own thing" in Syria, and loosing Kurdish support-the US is getting "a problem" in setting goals in the Middle East.






North Korea:



DJ: One way out of the NK-crises could be less US military in South Korea when North Korea is willing to stop its WMD-programm. There is NO military solution. The price of a war with North Korea, the risks, are much to high. 

Superstation on US warpreparation: 
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3764 "NK will not stop nuclear programm"
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3761 "8th Army moves HQ out of Seoul" (was an older plan)

DJ: I get a mixed message from the US-putting pressure but how far the US is willing to go ? China and Russia will NOT accept US unilateral large scale military action. But were is a red line for Russia and China ? 

Geopolitics:


Chinese-Pakistan-Economic-Corridor=CPEC


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DJ, I guess the main reason why NK did not have its 6th nuclear test proberbly has to do with "pressure" from China (not the US-build up-THAAD in SK made things worse). China could get effected by the NK test. Earlier tests may have brought earthquakes in China. Maybe even some radiation increase. 

NK may have gotten that message. 

In turn China may have made clear that it will not allow any major US military actions against NK. 

China would like to have more control over NK. Economicly NK is like Cuba during the Soviet Union. 

The NK-crisis now is in stalemate. Military options are limited. A US attack could have such a high prize the US will think of other options first. Unless some "leader" (wether Kim or Trump) does something stupid war is not the most likely option. 


NK launched another missile-and again the test went wrong. Maybe the US (or China, SK, Russia ?) did "help to make the test go wrong"? (http://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9615&start=30 There is discussion if the test was a succes or not. NK was able to fire a missile in the short/medium range-that is not news.) http://www.debka.com/article/26032/North-Korea-launches-new-missile-US-sabotages

The background for this NK-US conflict is "bad for the US". To start tradewars with South Korea, Canada, the EU, Mexico, China AND expecting their support in several dangerous conflicts is "very unrealistic". 


With Le Pen in France as a possible next president, Turkey moving towards Asia, the Philipines thinking they can get a better deal with China (in a.o. South China Sea-but also trade)-even in South Korea elections on may 9 that will result in less SK-US "partnership"- "the west" can not afford major wars.

Japan ruled Korea from 1910 till 1945 and treated the Koreans as slaves. Hate against Japan unites Korea. The 1950-1953 war brought extreme damage http://apjjf.org/-Charles-K.-Armstrong/3460/article.html and did bring the world close to world war 3. Most Koreans do not want another war at almost all cost. 

Combining the Korea-crisis with the Syria-crisis makes Trump maybe a unique US president. 




DJ, When I can find the link I will put it here. US forces in Syria are now trying to protect Kurdish YPG fighters against Turkish airstrikes. https://already-happened.com/2017/04/29/us-stryker-armoured-vehicles-are-deploying-into-northern-syria-along-the-tense-border-with-turkey/



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DJ: The not yet open war http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-29/paul-craig-roberts-asks-does-washington-plan-nuke-russia-china between the "west" and the "east" has several fronts:

Europe:

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3782 Albania (UCK-drugslords backed by US/UK) against Serbia in (Former Yugoslav) Republic Macedonia. http://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9625

Middle East:




North Korea:

A Declaration of War is very different because it not only authorizes a President to make war, it ORDERS him to do so and triggers our International Treaties REQUIRING other nations to join us in a war.

The reason for this incredible action has to do with Russia and China as well as what took place the last time in Korea and in Vietnam when relying upon the United Nations.

If the Russians and/or Chinese side with North Korea, then the United States will need a lot of help to battle the two other superpowers.  

https://already-happened.com/2017/04/29/us-installing-terminal-high-altitude-area-defense-system-thaad-in-seongju-south-korea/

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/30/520001/Trump-not-ruling-out-use-of-force-against-N-Korea

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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46959.htm#.WQW2PEeNnlk.

The notion that Tillerson would be able to issue an ultimatum to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov – you're either with us or with Damascus and Tehran – is laughable. Moscow simply is not going to yield its hard-earned sphere of influence in Southwest Asia to the Trump administration or the US deep state. What Moscow really wanted to know is who's making Russia policy in Washington. Now they've got their answer.

And then, there's the Big Picture. The Iran-Russia strategic partnership is one of the three key nodes, along with China, in the big story of the young 21st century; Eurasia integration, with Russia and Iran closing the energy equation and China as the investment locomotive.

That leads us to the real heart of the matter: the War Party's fear of Eurasia integration, which inevitably manifests itself as acute Russophobia.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/28/exclusive-trump-apologized-to-russia-for-syria-attack/">http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/28/exclusive-trump-apologized-to-russia-for-syria-attack/

https://already-happened.com/2017/04/30/better-dont-forget-south-korean-presidential-election-are-just-9-days-away-and-leading-candidate-mr-moon-wants-a-suspension-of-us-thaad-deployment/

https://already-happened.com/2017/04/30/air-raid-siren-reportedly-tested-several-times-in-shenyang-china-a-city-close-to-north-korea-border/

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-30/north-korea-threatens-sink-doomed-us-nuclear-submarine

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-30/real-wmd-syria-wests-weapon-mass-disorientation

https://www.rt.com/news/386693-nato-afghanistan-mission-stoltenberg/

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3789

Priebus said the conversations were prompted by the "potential for nuclear and massive destruction in Asia" and eventually in the United States.

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20485/Lavrov-Moscow-eager-to-work-with-Washington-on-Syrian-crisis">http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20485/Lavrov-Moscow-eager-to-work-with-Washington-on-Syrian-crisis


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DJ: North Korea conflict may be getting worse still;




DJ; I was hoping China and Russia would be able to get some influence on NK. The NK-crisis is far worse than the Cuba crisis. Cuba was placing Soviet missiles in reaction to the US putting missiles in Turkey. North Korea has its own "Weapons of Mass Destruction" (WMD). NK and the US will not get out of the downward spiral at their own strenght-time is an issue-NK (and Trump ?) do not make a diplomatic solution very likely. China and Russia want a diplomatic solution but when that seems impossible they might "take distance from NK" . One of the reasons why the US did not attack yet, NK did not yet have a nuclear test-could be the Chinese-Russian try to avoid war. Maybe there now are getting signs that "talks have ended"?

Explaining the situation on the Korean Peninsula to Russian ambassador Alexander Matsegora, DPRK Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs Han Song Ryol said the DPRK will "steadily take measures to bolster up its nuclear deterrence in order to defend the sovereignty and vital rights of the country and peace on the peninsula from the US nuclear war threat." 

The Russian side expressed its understanding of the stand of the DPRK and hoped the tension on the Korean Peninsula would be defused as soon as possible, according to the official Korean Central News Agency. 
Russia backs China's proposal on the suspension of missile and nuclear tests by the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) and of joint military drills by the United States and South Korea at the UN Security Council, the Russian Foreign Ministry said Saturday. 

"During a broad discussion, members of the council (UNSC) unanimously called upon the DPRK to renounce missile and nuclear tests and implement relevant UNSC resolutions," the ministry said in a statement following an open ministerial meeting on the Korean Peninsula nuclear issue held by the UNSC Friday. 

The UNSC also called for "a political and diplomatic solution" to the issue during the meeting, the statement added. 

"In this context, the Russian Federation supports China's proposal for a 'double suspension' (the suspension of Pyongyang's missile and nuclear tests in exchange for the suspension of US-South Korean military drills near the DPRK) as a starting point for political negotiations," the ministry said. 

Nevertheless, no common solution was made at Friday's meeting, according to the statement. 

Last month, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said China proposed a dual-track approach of denuclearizing the Korean Peninsula, namely the "double suspension" initiative, in an attempt to help the parties break out of the current security dilemma and return to the negotiating table.


Chinas Foreign Minister Wang Yi commented on the possibility of war on the Korean Peninsula when meeting the press with his German counterpartSigmar Gabrielin Berlin 
on April 26.We cant risk even a 1 percent possibility of warThe Korean Peninsula is not the MiddleEast
If a war breaks outthere would be unimaginable consequences,” he said.

All parties should follow relevant resolutions passed by the UN Security CouncilChina calls on allparties to avoid any actions that would escalate the situation."

In a commentary published on April 28 in the Peoples Daily Overseas Editionit was pointed out that this is a crucial moment for all parties involved
The DPRK disrupted the nuclear non proliferation regime and went against resolutions adopted by the UN Security Council
Meanwhilethe U.Sand South Korea pose a military threat to the DPRK
and seek further sanctions to and isolation for it.
This situation is fragile and dangerousShould any individual incident occurit could leadto disastrous consequences on the peninsula and its surrounding areas
Wars and conflictsin the Middle East have already become an open wound for humanity
Another war on theKorean Peninsula would only bring a much worse scenario to Northeast Asiathe commentary continued.
Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !
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Situation globally keeps worsening:


Gepubliceerd op 2 mei 2017

China has told its citizens living in North Korea to evacuate, amidst rising tensions between North Korea and the US. At the same time China and Russia are demanding the THAAD system be removed from Soul and Russian General warns that US may be planning preemptive Nuclear strike on Russia
links:
https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2017/04/26...
http://www.newsweek.com/russia-us-glo...
https://www.rt.com/news/386828-china-...
https://already-happened.com/2017/05/...
https://sputniknews.com/asia/20170502...
https://sputniknews.com/asia/20170502...
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20...
https://www.google.cz/search?biw=1280...


Both Russia and China may start thinking the US is preparing a major war against them. 


https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3801 

According to sources with access to international diplomatic communications, the US State Department has quietly told foreign ministries around the world to have citizens and Diplomats OUT OF NORTH KOREA by June 23.

The informal "advice" is seen as a dangerous confirmation of US intent to strike North Korea.

It is interesting to note that June 23 is the date of the "New Moon" when night is darkest around the world.

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3800

“The reckless nuclear war provocation by the Trump administration will bring it nothing but the fall of the American empire."

North Korea also promised to strike US allies, including South Korea and Japan, saying they will be “submerged into a sea of fire” and “reduced to ashes”.

But the risk of Kim Jong-un successfully launching a nuclear strike on the US seems unlikely.---

The Carl Vinson, the Theodore Roosevelt, the Nimitz and the Ronald Reagan are likely to ALL be within range of North Korea by mid-June at the latest.  It is then that the US might be willing to finally put an end to the nuclear threats of Kim Jung Un and his hermit kingdom.  

By mid-June, China will have had more than adequate time to do whatever it is they think they can do to de-escalate this insane problem and if there is no resolution by then, the US will be completely capable of resolving it alone.

While US naval power is one large component of US capabilities, air power is perhaps more potent.

The US has its most advanced fighter jets at bases in South Korea and in Japan, but they're nothing compared to what the US has already placed in GUAM and Diego Garcia.---

Russia might decide to join with China against the US.


https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3799

Beijing has called for an immediate stop to the deployment of the US Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) anti-missile system to South Korea and warns it is ready to protect its interests, according to the Chinese Foreign Ministry.---

Beijing has previously voiced concerns over the THAAD system and joint US-South Korean drills near the Korean Peninsula, consistently urging all the parties involved to find a peaceful solution to the volatile situation in the region.

Backed by Russia, it also proposed a halt to military drills in exchange for an end to Pyongyang’s missile and nuclear tests during a United Nations Security Council (UNSC) session held in New York on Friday.

Moscow considers the stationing of the THAAD system to be an “additional destabilizing factor for the region” amid alarmingly increasing tensions. It has called on Washington and Seoul to reconsider the decision.

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3798

The Chinese Embassy in North Korea has advised Korean-Chinese residents to return home amid concern that the North’s military provocations may trigger a U.S. attack on the North, according to a source.

https://www.rt.com/news/386875-global-hawk-drone-japan/

https://www.rt.com/news/386910-hrw-claims-soviet-chemical-syria/

https://www.rt.com/news/386882-putin-trump-speak-by-phone/ and https://www.rt.com/news/386922-syria-ceasefire-talks-us-diplomat/ DJ: Russia and US talking is better than Russia and US fighting.

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/05/03/520361/saudi-iran-yemen-bin-salman-ties

DJ: The build-up of forces by the US/NATO and Russia-China in itself is already dangerous. The idea of "a military solution" to any kind of major conflict is insane.

Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !
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