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From Hal Turner

UPDATE 1:36 PM EDT --

France confirms they have made a request to the USA and NATO allies about joint strikes on Syria in relation to alleged chlorine attacks by Assad. Thus, it appears that whatever is being set-up,  its likely in response to French requests.

 

UPDATE 1:45 PM EDT --

I can now confirm USS THEODORE ROOSEVELT aircraft carrier, along with its strike group taken battle positions in the Persian Gulf.

In the Mediterranean Sea, the US 6th Fleet has deployed surface ships and submarine units.

4 US ships:  USS Oak Hill, Iwo Jima, USS New York, USNS William Mclean

 

UPDATE 1:50 PM EDT --

ANDY BLUMENTHAL HAS JUST TWEETED AND PRETTY MUCH GIVEN THE WHOLE THING AWAY:

Blumenthal is Deputy Chief Operating Officer at the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services, Office of the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response. Previously, served progressively as Chief Information Officer, U.S. Department of State, Global Information Services; Chief Technology Officer, U.S. Department of Justice, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives; and Chief Enterprise Architect, U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Coast Guard and Secret Service.

 Here is what Bloomenthal says, in it's entirety:

 

 

If any of you could not figure out from the details above that the U.S. will attack Syria IMMINENTLY, this info from a guy inside the US government should remove all doubt.



UPDATE 2:05 PM EDT --

A 30 character EAM was just broadcast on 8992.0     "EAM" means "Emergency Action Message" sent by the United States to certain military assets worldwide.  An EAM is a "drop whatever you're doing and do this first" type of message transmitted over the Global High Frequency Radio Network.

 

UPDATE 2:48 PM EDT -- 

The vessels mentioned above in the Update at 1:45 PM EDT, are all amphibious assault ships or their support ships. Meaning the potential of thousands of Marines are awaiting landing on Syria's coastline along with their tanks APCs artillery and all the hell that comes with Marines right after the potential air attacks from the Red Sea and Persian Gulf.

Problem with this is Russians have large naval army and air assets at several bases Kmeimin and Tartus on the coast. If these air attacks take place and the Russians shoot them down. That's it -- there is no going back.

This will accelerate at break neck speed into chaos.


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https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/975113984054579201
https://www.facebook.com/HalTurnerShow/

No real further confirmations-maybe stays limited ?

(DJ-Worst case is Turkey moving in NE Syria with help FSA/US, NATO forces from Jordan/Israel moving north to Damascus/Southern half Syria. Also actions against Iran/Hezbollah-but still no confirmation on this-hope it stays limited)
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Looks very serious-still unconfirmed



UPDATE 3:53 PM EDT --

From Greek News Service (Translated via Google)

‘While the maps depicting cruise missile routes of an American attack on Syria from the Mediterranean-Red-Persian Gulf (central photo) have already been released, Russia has already received the first attack on the Khmeimim air base. Russian air raids have broken one or more unknown objects, probably drone, which recorded the Russian movements’

US forces sent naval and air forces to control the region in the Mediterranean Sea, Jordan, Turkey, Cyprus and Iraq.
The situation around Syria continues to "boil" very dangerously.
The media do not officially give all the information related to the confrontation between Russia and the United States ... obviously not to cause panic.

 

 

UPDATE  5:43 PM EDT  *** BREAKING **** URGENT ***

The Russian Chief of Staff has been officially informed by the United States of America that it would conduct military operations in Damascus within 48 hours.

Russia has informed Iran of this and Iran is moving anti-ship missile batteries to the mouth of the Persian Gulf.  The USS Theodore Roosevelt and its strike group may not get out of the Persian Gulf alive.

 

VIDEO: RUSSIA TELLS U.S. NO MORE ATTACKS OR FACE MILITARY RESPONSE FROM RUSSIA

From the video:  "Syrian Army won, they absolutely have no reason to use chemical weapons. They didn't use when they needed it the most (before Russian help came) and was almost losing the war. Why should they use when they are winning hard and doing mop up operations in some non important parts of the country?

 Russia basically saying US to not do this -but US doesn't listen and will strike anyway. This time Russia will answer by using military means.

 

UPDATE

Here's a map of what is located where in terms of U.S. and NATO naval deployments. (Click image to enlarge)

 Look at all the guided-missile destroyers sit off the coast.

And, USS John Warner (SSN-785):


From wiki:
"This ship is the second of the Block III subs, which will have a revised bow and some technology from Ohio-class cruise missile submarines.[6] The vessel supports 40 weapons, special operations forces, unmanned undersea vehicles, Advanced SEAL Delivery System (ASDS)."

 

UPDATE 6:30 PM EDT --

Multiple reports of B2 Stealth Aircraft taking off from Whiteman AFB

UPDATE 7:00 PM EDT --

 UN officials have been advised to leave Damascus urgently.


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No further Hal Turner-updates, also Defcon no real news-yet. 

Other warnings from Israeli News Live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mahydXnW3Kc&t=62s



DJ-Is it all a big bluf-putting pressure on Russia ? Are there talks, demands from US/NATO ? When Syria-escalation is part of influencing Russian elections one would expect more media coverage. 

Israel bombed the Gaza-strip, most likely a Russian airbase in Syria was attacked by drones, there is a build-up of forces in the area-but that-for now-is it. Bombers may be moving towards Syria, left the US, be in the UK, Turkey, a.o. now. 

I hope some people-in-position realize what kind of conflict could start and think twice. It would not stay in Syria, Iran, Russia most likely will respond outside Syria-or be attacked. 

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Yes, you are right there and it is very, very scary. 

I think our government is doing things right though.  To not 'create a stink' over this is to effectively sanction further attacks.  Putin does like to test the water: when no sharks bite, he wades deeper.  I think that is all part of the Russian "Strong man for leader" thinking.
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Techno, my impression/speculation is that : 
A-The "west" (US-led coalition, Gulf States, Israel) did put "maximum pressure" on the pro-Assad coalition (and maybe also Turkey-Exxon wanted the US 6th fleet to secure oil-drills for the Greek-Cyprus coast on wich Turkey also puts a claim). The timing-Russian elections/Putin re-elected-is no coincidence.  
B-Diplomacy or "other events"(electronic warfare-did Russia show (again-they may have done it in theBlack Sea some time ago) they could make the electricity on a ship stop working ? Did China (Iran, others Pakistan, Turkey. Philipines) give some sort of warning to the US ? Did Russia tell very bluntly-if you shoot we shoot and the US will loose more military in the first hour than they did in Viet Nam ?)

That the confrontation did not start yet does not mean it will not start.

Russia may use long range missiles against US ships in the Middle East. In such a scenario things may get out of control very fast. (And it does not matter any longer who is wrong or right.)

https://www.rt.com/uk/421625-skripal-evidence-opcw-johnson/ DJ-I hope the OPCW can proof its use in the Skripal case. 

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http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/2228-cruise-missile-strike-groups-in-east-mediterranean-persian-gulf-and-red-sea-for-possible-strike-at-syria

SUNDAY 18 MARCH 2018 :9:06 AM EDT --

firstly it is CONFIRMED that France is requesting journalists to leave Syria. It is also CONFIRMED that the UN have been asked to move from Damascus.

France CONFIRMED they HAVE asked to form a coalition to strike the Assad regime in response to chlorine attacks.

It is DISPUTED that the US have informed Russia of any strikes in Syria at this time. Normal procedure is to give the Russian's about 1 hour warning. There has been no warning yet.

The carrier group in the region is on usual station; it is supposed to be there. That said, it is CONFIRMED that cruise missile equipped ships are indeed positioning in various places.

It is also CONFIRMED there has been some deployment of bomber aircraft out of the USA.

In sum, there is certainly some prep work going on but I don't think the go signal has been given yet. That said, plenty of pieces moving on the board.

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Build-up of forces in Middle East goes on;


DJ-The mix of several conflicts Iran with Saudi Arabia, Israel, Russia-NATO, maybe even Turkey expansionism can be a mechanism that is out of control. When you control one conflict in one area another conflict elsewere escalates. Not even to mention Korea or Kashmir-India-China-Pakistan, South China Sea. In my opinion this is about survival of mankind. Can we solve conflicts without violence or will those conflicts solve "us" in violence ?

UPDATE SUN. 18 MARCH 3:57 PM EDT --

Below is map showing the previous deployment of forces in the eastern Mediterranean Sea off the coast of Syria in 2013.  I am told that the PRESENT deployment is larger and that "this is an explosion waiting to happen . . ."

 A total of five Russian warships, frigates and corvettes, two refueling ships, an electronic escort ship and three submarines equipped with cruise missiles (conventional propulsion but two of the new Kilo II class) are currently east of Crete.

 

UPDATE Sunday 18 March 9:02 PM EDT --

Three NATO Naval Exercises Completing; Will add 13 Ships and six Subs off Syria Coast Monday

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With tensions rising quickly over actions taking place inside Syria, the US began positioning naval assets in the eastern Mediterranean, the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf, leading Russian military spokesmen to say they believe the US is planning another missile attack upon Syria.  Russia directly warned the US not to undertake another attack, making clear Russia would shoot down any missiles and attack any platform which launched them (i.e. ships).

But it appears the US has a little surprise for Russia; three NATO naval exercises have just finished in or near the Mediterranean and as of Monday, another thirteen NATO warships and six NATO submarines will be conveniently located about 20 hours away from the Syrian coastline.

NATO’s major Mediterranean Sea anti-submarine warfare exercise Dynamic Manta got underway at the Italian port of Catania on Monday, March 5. [1]

The two-week drill took place in the Ionian Sea and was joined by navies from 10 allied countries.

Dynamic Manta is an annual NATO exercise in the Mediterranean Sea aimed at providing complex and challenging scenarios for anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare skills development.

Last year’s edition of the exercise saw the participation of nine submarines, 10 surface ships and nine maritime patrol aircraft.

Submarines so far confirmed to be taking part in Dynamic Manta 2018 include Royal Canadian Navy submarine HMCS Windsor, Hellenic Navy submarine HS Matrozos, Turkish submarine TCG Preveze and Spanish Navy’s ESPS Mistral.

According to a NATO infographic, the exercise hosted ten nations, six submarines and nine surface ships. (Story continues below Ad)

Second Naval Exercise

Another NATO naval exercise "Ariadne",  took place in the Ionian Sea, was completed late Friday and by Saturday at noon  four naval ships of NATO were tied up to the shore in the harbor of Corfu, Greece. [2]

The navy squadron, whose ship's crews number 168 men and women, will remain on the island until Monday, while on Saturday afternoon officers of the naval vessels also visited the Ionian Islands Regional Authority Theodoros Galiazatos.

 

Meanwhile in the Red Sea

The Egyptian and French navies have started a joint drill in the Red Sea, the Egyptian Armed Forces has said.[3]

The exercises, scheduled to last several days, come within the framework of partnership and military cooperation between the armed forces of the two countries, a military statement said on Tuesday, Xinhua news agency reported. 

A number of Egypt's naval units, including the Mistral helicopter carrier, frigates and rocket launchers, participated in the naval drill, along with several French military boats and frigates, it added.

The joint drill aims to boost the maritime security and strengthen the combat efficiency of the naval forces of the two countries, in order to get ready for any joint missions under any circumstances, according to the statement.

The recent years have witnessed increasing military ties between Cairo and Paris.

 

Put simply, if the U.S. decides to launch another missile attack upon Syria, (Reported HERE)  the Russian intent to strike back would be a deadly mistake doomed to failure.  While the US naval presence is formidable on its own, adding another 13 ships and six submarines tips the scale of power to insurmountable.  It would be suicide for Russia to strike back.

Stay tuned.

 

Corroboration:

1 https://navaltoday.com/2017/03/14/nato-kicks-off-dynamic-manta/

2 http://www.viadiplomacy.gr/stin-kerkira-polemika-plia-tou-nato/

https://navaltoday.com/2018/03/05/nato-asw-drill-dynamic-manta-kicks-off-in-italy/


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Some newsitems:


DJ-The US-and with them NATO, Gulf States, Israel, Australia New Zealand want to hold on to the uni-polar world. Russia, China, Iran (a.o.) want to change that. Syria seems to be the testcase for the powerstruggle. Problem is that eventhough Syria itself is away from US, EU, Russia a global conflict with modern weapons will go very fast and can reach any part of the globe within an hour. 

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http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/19/555971/Federica-Mogherini-Iran-sanctions-JCPOA
EU-No further sanctions on Iran in Iran deal


1-Assad did win the war, 2-US should stick to Iran deal, 3-US is selling KSA weapons etc. without any control on use (in Yemen)

Trump and 3M (Macron, May, Merkel) on anti-Russia campain


Speaking to Sputnik reporter Suliman Mulhem, a Syrian analyst reported that a largescale US military operation is set to be launched against the Syrian Army near the Syria-Iraq border "very soon."

"The US is planning a large attack against the Syrian Army very soon to capture Syria's border with Iraq, especially near al-Tanf and perhaps even parts further inland," the analyst told Sputnik, citing informed military sources stationed near the al-Tanf US military base. 

Reports of an upcoming escalation with the US are also circulating on social media.

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US ships arrive in Cyprus EEZ

The increased US naval presence in the Eastern Mediterranean until the end of the month is seen as an indication of the concern triggered by Turkey’s recent hostility in the region, which last month led to the suspension of Italian energy company Eni’s drilling operations in Block 3 of Cyprus’s exclusive economic zone (EEZ).

The incident with the Italian drillship was condemned by the governments of Cyprus, Italy and the US and the European Commission.

Even though the bolstered American presence is mainly due to a planned exercise by the US and Israel, it almost coincides with scheduled hydrocarbon drilling in Block 10 of Cyprus’s EEZ by American energy giant ExxonMobil.

According to sources, the US will begin strengthening its naval presence as of Wednesday in the region between southern Cyprus and Israel, but this is reportedly not directly linked to exploration activities by Exxon which are due to start on Sunday and last until April 20.

Kathimerini understands a US naval group and its amphibious USS Iwo Jima flagship will, in collaboration with Israeli forces, conduct a population evacuation exercise Wednesday.

It will also include the USS New York and USS Oak Hill and will last until March 18 in a region stretching from northern Israel to southern Cyprus. The three American ships are expected to remain in the area until at least March 25, which means their presence in the region around the island’s EEZ – along with that of the Israeli Navy – will coincide for around two weeks with Noble’s hydrocarbon exploration in Block 10.

Turkey has made no claims to Block 10 as it has done for Block 3, but nonetheless warned the US in recent days against sending its Sixth Fleet to the Eastern Mediterranean.

If anything, the warning is an indication of the strain on US-Turkish relations, which is also reflected in Ankara’s dismay at the US naval presence in the Black Sea.

Turkish objections appear to coincide with Moscow’s view that the US is testing the 1936 Montreux Convention that gives Turkey control over the Bosporus Strait and the Dardanelles and regulates the transit of naval warships. It also restricts the passage of naval ships not belonging to Black Sea states.


http://www.ekathimerini.com/226483/article/ekathimerini/news/us-ships-arrive-in-cyprus-eez


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Defcon did add several pages https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=11677&start=30
From Hal Turner:
In Syria itself: http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/19-march-deir-ezzur-eastern-countryside-sdf-militias-are DJ-With many Kurds fighting Turkey the East Syria SDF may be "renamed IS fighters" (and not all IS fighters are extremists-some tribes were forced to join "the winning party"-when it was IS-to survive-they became IS.

DJ-I do think many countries are also loking at cyber/electronic warfare-not only Russia, (the US, China, Iran, Israel etc.-it is a part of warfare). What would be better when you can controll the "smart weapons" of an enemy in their country. ICBM's exploding when launched-ammunitionstorages exploding at "enemy"base. Several countries will have some form of "sleeper cells" to sabotage infrastructure, cause chaos, spread rumours. 

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DJ-I'm happy Trump congratulated Putin with his reelection. (And yes-there was some fraud in Russia-but nobody doubts Putin is the most popular Presidential candidate in Russia-DJ-I think Putin should start to look for a successor-everything has a limit). Thee Trump phonecall to Putin deescalated the tensions maybe a little. 

Still-Turkey and Syria are moving closer to war, Syria also will not accept any further US agression. (Most likely Syria believes it has the support of Iran, Russia, Hezbollah, Iraq PMU's, Afghan/Pakistan-shia-fighters-capable of bringing confrontation between US, Turkey from Lebanon to Afghanistan and Pakistan).

http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/21-march-mayadeen-reporter-says-turkish-army-is-shelling and https://southfront.org/turkish-army-clashes-with-syrian-army-and-kurdish-fighters-south-of-afrin/ DJ-The US has moved itself in an impossible position-supporting Turkey=war with Kurds, losing eastern Syria (and more-quite likely), supporting the Kurds is losing Turkey (end of NATO).
https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-march-21-2018-three-chemical-weapons-attacks-are-prevented/ DJ-Pro-Assad forces use illegal weapons, but the "rebels"most likely are much worse.

Yemen

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-21/caught-video-houthi-rebels-shoot-down-another-saudi-f-15-fighter-over-yemen (DJ-The F15 is a major US fighter-not supposed to be shot down by a "Yemen-tribe") 

Egypt


https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/muammar-gaddafis-son-can-unite-libyans-lawyer-of-seif-al-islam/ DJ-NATO killed his father-Gaddafi jr. taking revenge (a.o. on Sarkozy, I believe the widow of Saddam Hussain is also still active, with one of three daughters-from Jordanhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raghad_Hussein maybe supporting IS ?-)Taliban more or less in control of Afghanistan. The "west" has spent zillions of dollars/euro's on regime change since 2001-the world only got worse by it.)
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DJ-Discussion on how complicated the SW-Asia (SE-Europe, North Africa) situation is getting.

Putin;
Without Putin Assad could not call himself President of Syria. Erdogan may have not survived a (fake-self organized?) coup. Netanyahu would most likely have attacked Iran. 
Russia did put itself in a very complicated scenario to save a long term ally-Syria. If Russia would not have intervened Assad would be gone/dead. Syria would be split in several "regions" (Kurdish, Turkish, Sunni/IS, western-Alevite). NATO would be in control up to Pakistan/Afghanistan-putting pressure on Russia, Iran, China. Assad fully depends on Russia.

Turkey;

Still a NATO-member-even willing to ask for art.5 assistence. Turkey is military active in Libya, Sudan, Qatar. De facto wants to control the Kurdish regions in Northern Syria, NW-Iraq. 
-Turkey is doing bussiness with Russia in Turk-stream oil/gas-pipeline. Has-for the time being-good relations with Iran. Did support Is-still supports Free Syrian Army (with a.o. the US) wich is fighting the Kurds and pro-Assad forces. Erdogan wants regime change in Syria. (DJ-With Turkey as a friend you do not need an enemy).

Israel-Netanyahu has good relations with Putin. In Syria Israel and Russia-most likely-from time to time coordinate/share info. During Obama the US-Israeli relations did worsen.
De facto-Israel needs the US to do "the dirty work"/weapons, money. Israel can not start a war with Hezbollah or Iran without US support. Russia may serve as protection against Hezbollah/Iran in Syria. (The US has lost influence on much of that area). Israel may be willing to create false flags to start a major conflicts-US-Iran, Greece-Turkey. With the Gulf States supported IS-but has also good relations (for oil-reasons) with the Kurds. Oil-conflict with Turkey/Lebanon (Cyprus)

France, Macron seems to think of himself as a new Napoleon. Syria-after world war 1-end of Ottoman Empire-was a French protectorate. France has a lot of oil interests in the Middle East and may not trust UK/US to look after those interests. 

Turkey, Israel, France are "part of the western coalition" all have their own agenda-willing to do deals with Russia when it fits their agenda's. 

China is another-major-player in the region. China is in an energycrisis-they NEED oil/gas. The China-Pakistan-Economic-Corridor is not making India (at the moment ruled by anti-muslim extremists-eventhough India is the third largest Muslim country with over 200 million Muslims) very happy.
China-India-Pakistan are involved in the Kashmir/Himalaya-conflicts. Russia may get financial help from China for its action in Syria. China also works with Iran on railways/ports (including a Chinese Army Base)-to make things complicated Iran has good relations with India-India also has good relations with Israel.

The UK is military very involved in several conflicts. With the Brexit going ugly-UK may join Trans Pacific Partnership-hoping to be a China-base for Europe-the UK is also in a difficult position. 

Leaders: M3T=May,Macron,Merkel,Trump all are in a weak position. Netanyahu is just a few steps away from prison due to corruption charges. The Saudi-"kingdom" depends on US/UK weapons. The US has become an oil-exporter. Failed foreign policies-from wars with Bahrein, Yemen, support IS/alquada to the Qatar-conflict, spending billions on palaces, may be like Iran in 1978-close to collapse. The real Saudi power base is the army-wich is split in up several sections supporting different princes/tribes/interests. 
In Egypt al-Sisi depends on Saudi-aid while fighting IS (wich is supported by KSA-former Muslim Brotherhood).  In Libya Gaddafi'son may become the unifying fugure in coming presidential elections. (Russia and Egypt both support Hafter in East Libya-but could support Gadaffi if that brings stability. The "west"is divided-on oil interests-supporting different militia.)
The two leaders in a strong position are Putin and Xi, Russia and China.

Most likely outcome could be break-up of western coalition. (Saudi Arabia wants to buy Russian weapons, trade oil in Yuan). The refugee-crisis, EU/Euro-crisis is limiting(/dividing) the EU-wich want to keep-more or less-the Iran-deal.
The US is about to start/move further in tradewars with the EU, China etc. (DJ-If the "western coalition"was a car I would not want to drive it-it does not get far-I'll be happy when it does not explode-but it will fall apart in several pieces when it starts moving.)

What to do: TALK ! Any further military action only makes things worse for the west-shows it internal weaknesses. The Iran-deal may be the best you can get at the moment-US/Israel/Saudi-accept it !
Russia/China are willing to do bussiness with both the EU and US. The Russia-Iran-China coalition at the moment-due to the western policies-is only getting stronger ! Serious risks of conflicts (for what western goals ? Control of oil ?) are growing while "the west" is divided and has no clear strategy.


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Turkey-Kurds

Turkey is moving further in Afrin NW-Syria confronted by a mix of Kurds and pro-Assad forces. Both Turkey and Syria-from time to time-attack eachothers positions. Turkey also planning military action in northern Iraq.

US in Syria
https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/23-march-yesterday-night-many-local-media-agencies-claimed another US attack on pro-Assad forces near oilfields Deir ez Zor. With Turkey getting ready for more military action against Kurds, the Kurds most on the frontlines a lot of east Syria de facto is taken over by the US and former IS renamed SDF. 

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DJ-Also a remark on Turkey-Iran-Pakistan(-Afghanistan-Iraq-Syria). With 367 million (+112 million would make about 480 milion people) SW Asia is a powerblock in itself. More cooperation-under China/Russia influence-may change the regional balance of power. These countries have everything to gain by using their position between China/India and Europe.
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Bolton has a hammer and he will find lots of nails. Like Hillary Clinton he will want to fight with Iran, North Korea, Russia, China and others in no particular order. He will want to destroy Syria. He is cozy with the Kurds and the Iranian terror cult MEK. He addressed (vid) their congress eight years in a row and made lots of money for saying things like this:

"efore 2019, we here will celebrate in Tehran.”

Bolton has little concern for U.S. allies except, maybe, for Israel.

His first priority will be to prevent the announced summit between Trump and Kim Jong-un. He will want more sanctions on North Korea and may argue for a 'preventive' strike against it. He does not care that such a strike will certainly kill tens of thousands of Koreans in the north and south and several thousand U.S. soldiers and civilians.

New sanctions on North Korea are problematic as Trump has just put additional tariffs on $60 billion of U.S. imports of Chinese goods. (The Chinese response is smart: Tariffs on U.S. agricultural goods from states that Trump won.) Why should China and Russia (and South Korea) help the U.S. to strangulate North Korea when they themselves are under fire? To prevent a U.S. strike that may come anyway the very next day?

The Europeans who were part of the nuclear agreement with Iran have to answer a similar question. Why offer Trump a 'compromise' over the JCPOA when the chances are now high that he will destroy it anyway?

What will Bolton do on Syria? Will he try to find a new agreement with Erdogan and drag Turkey away from endorsing Russia's polices in Syria? If he manages to do so, Syria's north will become a shared Turkish-U.S. entity and will be lost for a long time. New attacks on the Syrian government, from the north, south and east, where the U.S. re-trains ISIS into a new 'moderate rebel' army, would then open the next phase of the war.

So far the mean time of survival for Trump appointees is some six to eight months. Let us hope that John Bolton's appointment will - in the end - lower that average.

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Is Trump making a war-cabinet with Pompeo and Bolton (Trump did not want Bolton earlier because of his mustache-T. does not listen to any advise) good discussion on https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=11716&start=10

DJ-You can build a war-cabinet (prepare for war) to make peace. Russia, China, Iran, Korea see it in another way. Even Japan wants to have talks with NK. Tradewars do not make good friends.

In my opinion the US is getting more and more isolated. Dangers:-1 US enemies may think they have a chance when they take action now. 2 US friends may feel pushed to take action (Israel, Saudi Arabia against Iran, Ukraine against Russia) before it is to late. 3 The US-Trump-may decide to speed up plans. 

In SW Asia there are several powerstruggles; Iran and Turkey want to dominate in Syria and Iraq. Saudi Arabia wants to keep some control on Pakistan while China is pushing Pakistan towards Iran. The Kurdish issue-for the first time that many Kurds have so much modern weapons-can be another complication. 

Using minorities in divide and rule tactics is very old. Turkey is using Arabs and Turkmen against the Kurds. Uyghur muslim-chinese, Balochi in the Pakistan/Iran border area etc are used as proxies.

US mistakes:

The US seems to think the world can not do anything without the US-that is totally wrong. In reaction to US foreign policy more and more diplomacy is moving away from the US. The US has lost initiative in the Middle East (Astana-peace proces Russia, Iran, Turkey), Korea (Moon Putin plan) Ukraine (Minsk agreement with EU). The US is sabotaging the Minsk agreement by a push for war in the Ukraine, blowing up the Iran-deal. What is the point of any talks with the US if all you get is problems ?

In a military sense the US is very strong-still everlasting wars in Afghanistan (since 2001) Iraq (2003) do not give the US an image of winning a war-more of the US creating new Viet Nam's for oil. 

With Saudi Arabia as US best friend, Israel, Pakistan, Ukraine, Japan-moderate countries are pulling away. From Theresa May to MbS, Netanyahu-US allies have a lot of problems and may not be in power much longer. Any "wise leader" does not want to be on the US-list of friends. 

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-24/caught-camera-israel-targets-civilians-chemical-weapon-drone, Saudi Arabia is causing a genocide in Yemen with US/UK weapons and support.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-24/david-rosenberg-it-was-black-friday-black-monday Tradewars and economic growth do not mix. DJ-Since the US wants free trade as long it is in US benefit-even-for a longer period-making threats to the EU (on German cars etc) and South Korea (solar panels, electronics) the risk for the US of facing all kind of tarifs on US trade while the EU trade with Russia (energy) and China etc. will grow. (Again the US belief that the US is the center of the globe is wrong !!!!) 

Even with the UK good relations have a limit-the US should be aware of what they are doing and to who they are doing it. When you put your best friends out of a driving car do not be surprised you crash.

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https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/isis-launches-surprise-attack-against-syrian-army-troops-in-eastern-deir-ezzor/

https://already-happened.com/2018/03/24/us-unloads-liberty-pride-ro-ro-ship-in-jordan/ US getting ready for intervention from Jordan into Syria (Turkey to attack from the north-with US (covert) support ?)

http://www.voltairenet.org/article200232.html US/UK coordination on push-for-war with claims of chemical weapons being used. Tillerson fired by Trump for being part of a (UK)plot ? Plan was to move Russia out of the Security Council. (DJ-The plan still is to kick Russia, Iran out of Syria, regimechange in Syria (Iran, Russia). 



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DJ-Turkey not in full control of its (proxy) fighters (some renamed IS fighters). The US goal is to stop a land-bridge between Iran and Syria. Turkey and the SDF are tools for that goal. In Deir ez Zur the pro-Assad forces is facing IS more north than the IS held area. SDF may be almost all former IS fighters, the Kurds moving north to fight Turkey. 

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/syria-the-east-ghouta-afrin-exchange-is-complete-where-will-the-saa-go-next.html DJ The US did sell Saudi Arabia 6600 anti-tank weapons wich most likely will end up with "rebels" in southern Syria-most former IS. (SDF to form a Sunni-state in eastern Syria ?)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmqCJcIjd60 Israeli News Live-both Turkey in the north and US/Israel in the south of Syria preparing for war. 


http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/2270-multiple-ballistic-missiles-intercepted-over-saudi-capital-riyadh DJ-The US-Saudi-Israel (USI) coalition may blame Iran for the attack from Yemen. (Yemen is blocked from the sea, still has enough missiles from their own army. When Iran would be involved maybe some technicians/know how.)

https://www.debka.com/mivzak/german-french-fms-in-jerusalem-to-try-and-save-iran-nuclear-accord/ (DJ-Also some US military are warning-without the Iran-deal there will be more instability. Giving up on the Iran-deal is bad for the US !)

https://mideast.liveuamap.com/ All in one map-from Israel attacking Gaza to Erdogan claiming further action. 


DJ-The US troops in Syria may have to deal with Turkey, Kurds, Arab-tribes, pro-Assad forces, Iran, Russia (and the useal criminal groups). In Iraq the situation may not be much better. 
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Break-up East-West

With China siding with Russia https://sputniknews.com/world/201803261062913729-economic-crisis-china-us-trade-war/ there is a break-up of east-west relations. THIS IS BAD !!!!






UPDATE 10:49 AM EDT --

My sources in the Intelligence Community (IC) are saying this may be related to the "PetroYuan" launched by China to buy and sell OIL in Yuan instead of Dollars.  The "PetroYuan" went LIVE last night, and in the first hour of trading, TEN BILLION DOLLARS of notional trading took place.

For decades, all oil sales in the world HAD to be performed using Dollars.  This meant that countries around the world needed physical US Dollars to buy oil.  With a new way to now purchase oil using the Chinese Yuan currency, a whole slew of US Dollars are going to flood back into the USA from countries that don't want our currency anymore and who have resented having to use it.

When all that cash starts coming back into the USA, it will cause almost immediate hyper-inflation, wrecking the value of the Dollar, and collapsing the US economy.

THAT is something countries go to war to prevent . . . 

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Good article on the Shanghai-oil market/PetroYuan:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-26/petroyuan-futures-volume-dominates-brent-big-traders-step DJ-The US economy is based on the US-petro-$. Global energy trade outside of the US$ is "a challange" for the US.

http://theduran.com/expelling-russian-diplomats-tokenism-europe-petulance-washington/ Is the US "returning"of 60 Russian "diplomats" a reaction to Russia sending 755 US "diplomats"to the US July 2017 ? (Also a good remark, (Russian) spies can come as tourists now-no need to use embassies. The west-in Russia- can use "tourists" much less. Also from the article-the "returned Russian diplomats"from EU countries can be replaced by new "diplomats" (DJ-So it could be that Spain is sending Russians to Moscow and the week after that those diplomats show in the Netherlands etc.)

Israeli News Live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTbTVYoxLa0 What is Kim Jung Un doing in Bejing ? https://www.debka.com/mivzak/kim-jong-un-pays-a-surprise-visit-to-beijing/ (Asking Xi on how to deal with Trump in may ?)

China-Pakistan-Economic-Corridor going military hardware ?

US-UAE-KSA talks on "Iran agression" and how to deal with it. And https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/saudi-arabia-threatens-to-retaliate-against-iran-over-houthi-missiles/ (The "media" has not yet blamed Putin for it-still "the west" may find any excuse good enough to go to war.)




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DJ-What is the perspective for a major war ?

In my opinion there is limited perspective. Netanyahy would like to see "western action" against Iran, Hezbollah etc. The "west" would have to do the fighting-Israel alone can not win such a war. "The west" may not be waiting for such a war. 

Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates (KSA, UAE) also would welcome an Iran war as long as the fighting can be done by anyone else. In the past Pakistan, Egypt, Sudan were willing to do so-but they all now have other interests. 

An open war with Russia and/or China, a large scale intervention in North Korea-just like a war with Iran-may be against any military advise. Still some "politicians" may need a war for their survival. T-May-of the UK is very likely since in the UK her cabinet has little support-coming elections would be the end of her carreer.

Trump is out of the "Russia-made-Trump-win" insanity (brouhgt up by h.clinton and that kind of "leaders")-maybe that is why the US did ask 60 Russian diplomats to leave the US now-after Russia send home 755 US diplomats july 2017. Trump wants to go to extremes but not over it. A major war would be the end of life on earth-and yes-that would include the US !

In my opinion NATO is the agressor-moving east since 1990, trying to keep control on oil and gas, transportroutes. The western sanctions are not only pushing Russia and China-with large landborders-together. Chine is in an energycrisis-needs a New Silk Road for economic growth. 

The western sanctions therefor are also pushing Iran towards Russia-linked via the Caspian Sea. China made all kind of investments in Pakistan. The US/NATO is becoming more and more a problem for Pakistan-since US/NATO are seen by many as fighting Islam, unable to end the 17 year old war in Afghanistan. 

Although India-Pakistan (and India-China) relations are "problematic" India is realistic in seeing economic perspective in EurAsia. India does not want war with Pakistan or China-certainly not for doing the US a favour. 

The "western view" of the world is getting more and more unrealistic. Asia has over 4 billion people living in it-by far EurAsia is the largest economy in the world-Africa is within reach. All trade can be made over land (so the US Navy can not stop the trade). 

Korea may be dealing with the Moon-Putin-Plan. Reunification with Russian and Chinese investments. (The THAAD US-airdefence was brought in under the Park-administration in South Korea. The Moon government was against it. The US did support South Korean dictators (like they did elsewere; Pakistan, Iran, Latin America. People did not forget that.)

Although the US has become the main oil-producer tradewars are not making turning EU countries for US energy. At the long run doing trade with Asia is in Europes interests more than dealing with an unwilling US that is telling "the world" what to do. (Putting sanctions on EU firms working with Nordstream Russia-Germany pipeline is not a very good US plan.)

The US may find itself getting excluded in a fast changing world. The "west" may be surprised by "eastern" initiatives (like the Korea plans). 

Proberbly the major risk for escalation is in build-up of forces and than false flags/miscommunication. Insane "politicians" have been around a long time-did start a.o. the Iraq 2003 war. But most likely there is a (military) limit to what "lunatic leaders" can do. (Although military who are also shareholders in weaponfactories are a risk-they do not want to destroy their markets-long lasting limited wars sells weapons best. A new arms race-they love it !)
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DJ-The Skripals will seek political asylum in the US-claim by UK




Since word of a chemical attack became public just days ago, military assets from the United States, United Kingdom, France and other allies have been POURING into the eastern Mediterranean Sea off the coast of Syria.  Moreover, opposing military assets from Russia, Iran, Syria and their allies are also POURING into the same area today.

The US and its allies are considering various military strike options against Syria, whom they are already blaming for the Chemical Weapons attacks outside Damascus, which killed between 40 and 161 people just days ago.  

Russia has made it explicitly clear they will defend Syria from such attacks by shooting down any missiles launched,. attacking the launch site(s) / or naval ships that launch them, and shooting down any non-Syrian aircraft which launch strikes into Syria.  The pieces are all in-place for a direct military conflict between the United States and Russia -- and word has reached my ear the conflict may begin "within HOURS."

UPDATE 3:07 PM EDT --

Sources tell me the US Central Command has been ordered to set Defense readiness Condition (DEFCON) --  'DEFCON 3" throughout their Area of Operational Responsibility (AOR).

UPDATE 3:21 PM EDT --

RUMORS are now seeping from inside Syria that President Bashar Assad has ordered his forces to directly attack American troops inside Syria if the United States attacks Syria again.   This is UNCONFIRMED, but rumors that have come out of these sources in the past have turned out to be true..

 

UPDATE 3:34 PM EDT --

UN Security Council has been meeting in New York for several hours over the Syria situation and the UN Special envoy made clear he now "FEARS WORLD CONFLAGRATION."  As if those words weren't clear enough, he continued saying there is now "DANGER OF UNCONTROLLABLE ESCALATION BETWEEN ALL PARTIES."



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DJ-based on https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=6

"The west" will bring a resolution in the UN security council today-tuesday april 10. Russia (and China ???) will veto it.

Russia will have talks with both China and Iran, Turkey on the present situation. 

"The west" may be US, UK, France and maybe not even all EU members. Saudi Arabia, UAE, Australia..

Russia did give several warnings, an attack on Syria will have serious consequences. So when there is even a limited attack (like in 2017 <60 cruise missiles to be pulled down mostly) Russia has to act. 
The USS Cook close to Syria was "taken over" in the Black Sea http://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html in aprl 2014 by a Su-24 with electronic warfare. 

At best-The USS Cook will try to fire its, up to 90, missiles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Donald_Cook and Russia will try to stop it by electronic countermeasures. 

A worst scenario is "regime change" by trying to kill Assad, large scale attack against Syria, also Iran, Russia/Ukraine. 

DJ-I do not know how things will go. China may be able to influence events. When China sides with Russia very openly the message for "the west" must be "an attack on Syria could bring war with Russia, China". China not going for full support for Russia would be China giving up the New Silk Road, PetroYuan etc. (or they will be next).

This clash, conflict, is on who is the dominant global power, US or Russia + China. 
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DJ-When a major conflict would break out most likely it will not remain a Syria-conflict. The US-Saudi-Israel USI-coalition-with NATO help-will most likely attack Iran. Russia may react by invading the Ukraine. I would like to know what Turkey and Qatar will do-both have US bases AND good relations with Iran, Russia. http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/those-behind-douma-chemical-attack-will-pay-erdogan-says-130099, https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/04/syria-puts-forces-alert-threat-military-action-180410125213183.html (Both Saudi Arabia and Qatar-with Israel-will join US, UK, France)
Also the position of China is not very clear (as far as I know). Turkey, China could influence the US.
(Hal Turner claims China is already working with Russia-see below-an attack on Syria will start a war with Russia-Iran-China a.o.)

For the moment Hal Turner-he sometimes seem to get his info from https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=6&sid=518ba9f64eccd875e3919d7fc4549e6d may be very grim but-sorry to say-also with some realism. Although any crisis may be unpredictable with this many "parties" involved.


Serious developments have taken place overnight concerning the ongoing situation in Syria.  ALL of my former colleagues in the Intelligence Community tell me the United States, the United Kingdom, and France have placed their Middle East military units on ALERT for what most believe will be a SUSTAINED US/UK/France direct attack against  Syria commencing as early as tonightThis article will be LIVE UPDATED throughout today (Tuesday, 10 April 2018).

British Air Force units on Cyprus are openly being loaded with bombs, missiles and ammunition. The Russian Baltic Fleet has declared a Combat Alert. Russian strategic bombers are in the air over the Mediterranean Sea, loaded with air-to-ship cruise missiles and the Russian Air Force is conducting heavy Combat Air Patrols throughout the region.

This situation is like a huge pile of dynamite waiting for a spark to explode into direct war between Russia, the US/NATO and regional powers in the Middle East.

Russia, the only nation with permission from the Syrian government to be in that country, has told the US/UK & France they will NOT ALLOW another attack upon their ally, Syria.  Russia has made clear that it will counter-attack; shooting down any missiles launched at Syria, shooting down any aircraft attacking Syria, then further attacking any Navy ship which launched such missiles and air bases from which attacking planes were launched!


RuAF is highly active over Syria with multiple planes airborne near its coast, a U.S. P-8 POSEIDON anti-submarine aircraft was just monitored collecting signal and electronic intelligence off the coast of Syria and is now currently just off Lebanon

Russian strategic bombers are airborne over the Caspian sea and over Iran, fully loaded with Kh-55SM extend range to 3000 km cruise missiles.  These missiles are air-to-ship and they are known to be incredibly precise ship-killers.

US Warships are reportedly converging in the Mediterranean, with the Pentagon already admitting the USS Donald Cook is on-station near Syria.

Surface vessels of the Chinese Navy in the Mediterranean in joint exercises with surface units of the Russian navy have been ordered to join the Russians at the Syrian port of Tartus in case of a possible aggression against Syria. (Source)   (This means we're now looking at the US/UK/FRANCE versus Syria/Russia/Iran and CHINA)


All this activity is taking place, yet the mass-media in the United States and Europe is virtually silent about it.  Few if any stories are being reported as to the magnitude of what's taking place.  It's almost as if the powers-that-be want the public kept in the dark until war suddenly breaks-out.  This way, the public is frightened at the sudden catastrophe it is facing and will comply with what the government tells it out of fear.


Reports now that the Syrian Army and Air Force is evacuating warplanes from Al-Typhur and Al-Seen Airbases, towards Al-Nayrab Airbase and Damascus International Airport

Free Syrian Army factions at the American At-Tanf base are reportedly preparing to attack the SAA held Deir Ez Zor city, possibly when the US coalition launches large strikes on Syria

President Trump cancels first trip to Latin America: White House  President Trump no longer going on upcoming South America trip; will remain in US "to oversee the American response to Syria." 

REPORT UNCONFIRMED: USA wants to launch Ground Operation inside Damascus within next 24 hours!  USA military prefers massive operation Ammunution for US & NATO Troop allegedly being deployed across Syria now.  France & UK Troops already secretly sent into northern Syria.

Reports of Syria Deployment of anti-missile systems around the presidential palace and the defense ministry in Damascus, according to a UN diplomatic source. Aircraft reportedly transferred to Russian base near Lattaquieh 

 

 Russian SU-24 fighter bombers have started buzzing US warships at crazy low levels in the Mediterranean.Some flying as low as 50-60 feet.

Russia will take all political, diplomatic and military retaliatory measures if necessary should the United States deliver a strike on Syria, Russian State Duma (lower house of parliament) Defense Committee Chairman and former Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Airborne Troops Vladimir Shamanov said on Tuesday according to TASS

 The US has requested a vote at 3pm (7pm GMT) on a draft UN resolution to set up an inquiry into multiple chemical weapons attacks in Syria

(Editor's Note:  I suspect the Resolution will be vetoed by Russia, and then WAR. This is really *****ing bad. This is the closest we've ever been to world war 3 ever since the Cuban missile crisis.)

 

White house is briefing the press that they wont accept any delays and they will move with or without the vote, but would prefer one.

 Syrian forces have begun to shuttle their fighter jets to Khmeimim Air Base, a Russian air force base in Latakia.

 

USS HARRY TRUMAN STRIKE GROUP of SEVEN WARSHIPS ARMED WITH CRUISE MISSILES ARE BEING DEPLOYED TO THE MEDITERRANEAN 

Russian ambassador Nebenzia called out the three major imperial powers (U.S./UK/France) in the UNSC meeting on Syria for lacking "a clear strategy":

"Everything you touch, chaos is left behind...do you not understand the dangerous threshold to which you are bringing the world?"

 

Saudi Arabian FM confirms support for strikes against #Syria, making #KSA first Middle Eastern state to join the #US-led trans-national attack. #UK and #France have pledged forces to strike over alleged chemical weapons usage. Attack expect in next 24 hours

Reports that UK, France, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and even Israel have signaled that they want to help US in an attack on pro-Assad forces. Pro-Assad forces have started moving planes and helicopters to better defended airbases.

 

Russia's Ambassador to the UN claimed they are not afraid to attack US Military assets if the US strikes Syria; so it's not just Ships -- US also has bases and 2k troops in the north of Syria

Russia's UN Ambassador, Vassily Nevenzia, has said the US draft resolution to condemn the continuing use of chemical weapons in Syria "contains some unacceptable elements which may make it even worse".

 

In addition to USS Donald Cook, the U.S has now dispatched USN Carrier Strike Group 8 to the Mediterranean/#Syria:

- USS Harry Truman aircraft carrier
- Carrier Air Wing VII
- USS Hué City missile cruiser
- x6 Arleigh Burke-class Destroyers
- x1 Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate

 

OPCW to send independent chemical weapons investigators to #Syria's Douma in what is hailed as a diplomatic breakthrough, hoping to prevent a #US-led strike on Syria. #Russia has backed the inspection.

 

The international chemical weapons watchdog will send a fact-finding mission to Douma, Syria, to investigate the reports of an attack there. The move follows calls from Moscow and Damascus to launch an international investigation.

“Today, the OPCW Technical Secretariat has requested the Syrian Arab Republic to make the necessary arrangements for such a deployment. This has coincided with a request from the Syrian Arab Republic and the Russian Federation to investigate the allegations of chemical weapons use in Douma. The team is preparing to deploy to Syria shortly,” the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) said in a statement on Tuesday.

The incident allegedly occurred in the Damascus suburb of Douma on Saturday. It was reported by several rebel-linked activist groups, including the controversial White Helmets, who accused the Syrian troops of dropping chlorine-filled munitions on the area. They also claimed it affected dozens of civilians, and footage of children being allegedly treated for poisoning has appeared online.

Damascus has called the alleged attack a “fabrication.” Russian military specialists have explored the area as Jaysh al-Islam militants occupying Douma began to evacuate from the city as part of a Russian-brokered deal with Damascus. Moscow said the specialists had found no traces of chemical weapons or any victims treated for chemical poisoning.

The OPCW’s announcement came shortly before an expected UN Security Council meeting on the alleged Douma incident. Both Russia and the US are expected to roll out draft resolutions calling for an international investigation into the purported attack. On Monday, the UN said it was unable to “independently verify the allegations” regarding Douma.

“We're not in a position at this point to independently verify the allegations but, obviously, any allegation of continued use of chemical weapons is extremely, extremely troubling,” Stephane Dujarric, spokesman for UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres, said.

 

Defense Sec. James Mattis was scheduled to travel to Nevada and San Francisco this weekend but has since canceled his trip, a U.S. official says

 Reports that multiple RuAF warplanes carrying anti-ship missiles broke the sound barrier over Tartous and Latakia just now.  

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indicate we are very close to a confrontation over Syria

DJ-Most likely this will escalate VERY BAD (and main stream media not very informative mostly)
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It is getting daylight in Syria-cruisemissiles are easy targets by daylight. Today no (major) cruisemissile attack ? Groundoperations ? False flags ?
DJ-Although many reports of aircraft moving into Syria from Jordan, Iraq no reports of strikes (yet).

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http://theduran.com/jimmy-dore-demolishes-trumps-imminent-attack-on-syria-as-us-prepares-to-go-to-war-in-support-of-al-qaeda-video/ DJ-because of an alqaeda linked group claiming to be attacked by chemical weapons in Douma-no further proof-US (and some other countries) ready for attacking Syria, including Russian, Iran forces. Jimmy Dore gives a good summery of the level of insanity (in the name of humanity-The US/UK are main sponsors of the Yemen genocide. Please save me from the lies !)
 
Reports that Assad is being in safety in Lebanon ??? https://www.debka.com/mivzak/lieberman-we-cant-let-iran-establish-a-military-presence-in-syria/ Any major escalation in Syria can and will trigger multiple other conflicts; from Iran to Russia attacking western backed "moderate neo-nazi's and IS" in Ukraine. Maybe even South China Sea, Korea...

I can only hope we will be saved from this insane and criminal western war. Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Yemen shows what western involvement will bring-we do not need that western made chaos on a global scale !
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https://www.rt.com/usa/423802-trump-get-ready-russia-missiles/ reaction https://www.rt.com/news/423807-moscow-trump-syria-missiles/, https://www.rt.com/news/423774-us-missiles-targeted-russia/

At https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=6 someone is asking "Is Trump insane "? 


https://www.debka.com/moscow-and-tehran-link-up-to-strike-israeli-targets-in-response-for-us-led-operation-in-syria/ (Israel behind a false flag in Syria, also with Israel airstrikes looking like possible US airstrikes; goal=Israel wants the US to stay in Syria and fight Iran. What will the over 1 million Israelis with Russian background do in case of Israel-Russia conflict ?)

DJ-There seems to be a struggle between "sanity and insanity" in the US "leadership", certainly those who know what further US/NATO agression could bring try to buy time. A "very major conflict" will have no winners. Life, nature, our planet, next generations would be losers and for what ?

It may take some time before it is clear what the US will do-Russia will defend not attack ! In the mean time "other parties" could push for escalation (like the Israel airstrikes on a Syrian base-wich first was believed to be a US attack). Some positions are "unclear".

-Will Turkey now join the US and Israel, KSA, NATO against Syria (and Iran, Russia) ? 
How will that work out on Turkish-Iranian relations ? Both Greece and Russia are orthodox Christians-a Turkish attack on Christians may push Russia and Greece against Turkey.

-Hezbollah will be a main target. Any first (serious rumour of a) strike could bring Hezbollah/Lebanon to start shelling Israel with thousends of missiles. Also "forces in Syria" will drop any limits on what to do with Israel. (Russia already has missiles aimed at US bases in the Middle East.)

-Although Russia may not want to conquer the Ukraine-it also does not want Ukraine, Georgia to become NATO members. So far Russia did limit itself in support for Luhansk and Donetsk. Escalation in the Middle East will bring escalation all over the globe. There are "western backed moderate neo-nazi's and IS-ers" fighting for Kiev-Russia may want to deal with them. 

-Then there is Kashmir-triangle of India, Pakistan and China. 

-Korea, South China Sea, Taiwan. The position of China also is not very clear-but most likely China will try to give support to Russia, Syria, Iran-eventhough trying to stay out of an open war.

-Iran has opened its borders for Russia. Will react when "international circumstances" will force a reaction. 

In my opinion everything should be done to de-escalate, have people talking again. There is no excuse for blowing up this planet-claiming that such a choice would be the better alternative for talks. Maybe small countries can try to end this state of insanity.....
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Latest Trump Tweet on imminent conflict with Russia.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/984022625440747520
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Although I do not agree with the used words-basicly there is some points; 

Does Trump want to start a limited war due to Mueller ? Stormy Daniëls ? Or because of Saudi Arabia willing to pay for a war to get rid of Assad ?

Since the world is ruled by money, oil etc. some groups must be making a lot of money out of wars. 


http://theduran.com/airlines-reroute-flights-in-preparation-of-strikes-on-syria/-The coming night may bring war-or not ? Psycho-wars ?
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DJ-With Saudi Arabia, UAE, possible even Qatar (when the can get all of the gasfields the now share with Iran) paying the US to start a war with Iran-a short look at other countries involved.

Turkey wants to deal with the Kurds. For the US that is okay as long as the Kurds can fight Assad first (and will weaken by doing so). Turkey will support the Free Syrian Army (alnusra etc. "moderate thugs").
After the fall of Assad Turkey can have Eastern Syria to limit Iran.
(When someone did forget https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_chemical_attack After the Iran revolution the west supported Iraq-Saddam Hussein-in its war against Iran. Iraq started a WMD-program-paid for by the Saudi's-killed thousends of Kurds-no problem for the "west". Turkey has been killing Kurds for decades with NATO help.) Turkey may stay "neutral" first-later on turn against Russia and Iran.

Israel wants to deal with Iran-the airstrikes a few days ago were against Iran in Syria. Both Hezbollah and Iran are unacceptable for Israel. 

Saudi Arabia would like to claim every missile from Yemen is from Iran. 

The coming war will be another oil-grab from the "civilized western robbers" against Iran, Russia, China. (Just like world war 2 was for Russian, Malaya, Dutch East Indies oil.)

I hope there will be no major war-caused by blind greed of an elite of 0.01% claiming to own most of the planet already. But the "inbalance of power", inequality, will cause conflict.

(DJ Hal Turner and South Front hacked ??? Possible other sources of "independent"information also soon off-line. https://southfront.org/southfronts-website-is-under-attack/, http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/2358-bring-in-the-tomato-plants-it-s-on )
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Screw Putin.  He is now advising his peeps to get gas masks as nuke war now imminent.  Trump needs to launch on that BIG MOUTH PUTIN.  



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DJ-Although Trump claims Russia to be responsible for a (still not proven) chemical attack in Douma-also rumours on US-Russian de-escalation talks. (I hope sanity may win !)


Most likely the military options-and their price/risks-make a US/NATO military action not very likely.

Still time will tell how things unfold-there are many "parties" involved with many agenda's.
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https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201804121063466771-trump-erdogan-speak-syria-phone/ DJ-Is Erdogan more against Assad than against Israel, US ? Or is it a "game" he is playing ? Only focussing on what he believes to be Turkish interests (fighting Kurds-creating a Turkish powerbase in the Middle East) ?

1-petro$ (against energy deals in any other currency or exchange-the petro-dollar is the foundation for US being the only "super power")
2-Military Industrial Complex-weapons for profit-the more war, the more profit
3-Saudi Arabia (and UAE etc) are paying
4-Israel wants Iran and Syria under control
5-Cover-up for western involvement with false flags, support for IS etc.
6-Distraction from internal crises (US-Mueller/Cohen, Stormy Daniëls, UK-Skripal-lies, Brexit, France social "reforms")


-Iran only getting involved during western attack on Syria when Israel attacks Syria (DJ-or Iran). Iran supposed to be a save heaven for Syria, a bases for Russia-not a warzone.
-Turkey expected-by Syria-to be involved in NATO operations
-Russia will try to bring down as many missiles as they can-but whit a very large number of missiles a lot of them may reach their goal.
-US may have told Russia what the targets will be (DJ ???)-Russia enabled Syria to minimize loss of life, some damage control. Missiles still will destroy (empty) government buildings, air/army-bases, infrastructure. 
-Attack is supposed coming night-limited in time, less than two days (is the plan)
-Russia does want to avoid further escalation-deal with the damage (and repair it a.s.a.p.)
-Reason for attack is Douma-not chemical attack-just an excuse (there was no chemical atack)-western/Saudi "hope" were the 30.000 "moderate terrorists"near Damascus-they are gone.

https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/11-april-fsa-launches-about-120-grad-missiles-towards-2-saa DJ-Looks like "the west" did get more weapons to their "rebels"(including IS).

Build up of forces goes on. Most likely also all kind of diplomacy-parties trying to get allies-or positions (like that of China) clear. Very limited (at best) attemps for deescalation or peace - most parties are preparing for war.

DJ-Truth dies as first in any war, the second victim is "planning"-wars never go to plans. Certainly in this powder keg-situation (in fact a global powder keg-not only in Syria) with many countries/groups involved the only thing that may save us is very fast deescalation ! https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-11/china-launches-massive-combat-drill-hainan-war-taiwan-becomes-more-probable

There are enough groups that are willing to start a major conflict with new "acts" [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident[/url-in 1967 Israel attacked a US ship hoping the US would see it as an Egyptian attack and join Israel (more) against Egypt. 

Tunnel vision can cause "leaders" to loose sense of proportion and reality. More bombs may not bring an end to a "conflict" (The last "war" the US had was world war 2-the rest were "conflicts"without any role of congress)-but start more escalation. (Remember how Laos and Cambodia did get involved in the Viet Nam war-the US was supported by Australia, New Zealand, South Korea-in an active way-NATO more passive for logistics etc.)

Things still look "very bad"-the only good news is that-so far- the major escalation did not yet start.
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DJ-In my opinion it is good news US and Russia did keep in contact at diplomatic level. The risk of a direct US-Russia confrontation may get less. Still there are many groups willing to push for escalation. 

Since Syria-area has become a powderkeg it is essential to deescalate as soon as possible to avoid accidents.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uBZoHpiHIE Ex-Israeli Intel Boss: US has no experience with equal opponent. Trump only will start action when he knows the US will win.


DJ-Again, the real complication is in the large group of parties involved. It looks like-for the moment-US-Russian talks ended in "serious disagreement". Still all the leaders are aware that-even if there is military action-there also will be an urgency for talks.

Since days went by without major western action a "limited strike" will damage empty buildings, air/army bases etc. The US would like to avoid hitting Russians in Syria. Russia does not accept any US/western action in Syria. 

A major strike will bring much risks for escalation and may not bring any further change, Russia and Iran stay in Syria.

By the way-today the Dutch P.M. still is on a trade mission in China, the Dutch FM wil make a one day visit to Moscow. Export did grow in 2017-including agriculture machinery to Russia. The Netherlands need trade, an open market. Not war and protectionism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZzmv_6--WU Israeli News Live; Syria captured UK military in East Ghouta. NATO planned a "rebel atack" on Damascus.
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If this is the basis for any desecalation things only will get worse:

"The US is exceptional, Russia is not"-coming US Secretary of State, ex CIA Pompeo


When Russia fires at our ships and planes used in an attack-we will sink their ships, bring down their planes. That the US has no permission to be in Syria or Lebanon (for this kind of action), there is no UN basis for it-the US is "exceptional" and above any (international) law. 


Palin warned of advocacy for military operations in Syria rooted in financial self-interest. She stated, “I hate to say it, but a lot of the talk that’s enthusiastic about war, unfortunately, comes from people with strong ties to defense contractors and have strong ties to those who ultimately can make money on the operations. So often you got to follow the money and that leads you to what the root is of some of these arguments.”

and http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/2362-un-ambassador-trying-to-avert-war-between-u-s-and-russia (DJ-It looks like MbS-Saudi Arabia is buying support for war against Syria):

UPDATE 11:04 PM EDT --  The window for a US strike on Syria appears to now be closed for the day.  The sun is rising in Syria which is 7 hours ahead of the US east coast and the US *usually* strikes at night.  

Why we are even considering doing this is beyond me.  There is NO U.S. National Security Interest in Syria.  There is NO legal authority for the US to even BE in Syria.  

There are real and legitimate questions as to whether or not there EVEN WAS a chemical attack, and a whole boatload of questions about WHO did it if one actually happened.   

Commons sense says that Syria's President Assad is winning his battle against US-backed "rebels" and had no reason at all to use chemical weapons and bring the wrath of God down on him.  That's a compelling argument for NO action.

Common sense also says that there are people with a very large monetary interest in seeing Assad ousted, so a new gas pipeline from Qatar to Europe can be built.  It is, in my view, THOSE people who are concocting these chemical weapons fairy tales and THOSE people who are pushing for US action.  

The United States is not a mercenary army for hire.  President Trump should come out on TV and say something like "The United States cannot prove IF a chemical attack happened or WHO did it.  Until such time as there is actual evidence, I will NOT authorize an attack upon another country." 

That would put this mess to rest immediately and Trump would solidify his base by proving he's not a reactionary war hawk.  After all, he DID campaign on bringing our troops home.  This would be a good time to do it, and thereby cut the throat of the Deep State that is getting us to wage never-ending wars all over the world.



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tEdr0tq6lU Israeli News Live; Turkey-Russia conflict over Crimea.

Talking to Pentagon officials after the apparent gas attack, Mr. Trump called for a more sweeping retaliatory response than the military advised, one White House official said. He asked to consider options that would punish not only the Syrian regime but also two of its sponsors—Russia and Iran. “He’s pressed back” on suggestions from Defense Secretary Jim Mattis that the response should be more limited in scope, the official said.


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