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    Posted: April 21 2019 at 7:46pm
Great explanation of Climate Change:


https://www.youtube.com/embed/BC1l4geSTP8
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Sorry, FluMom, I tried and failed. I got about 2 minutes in before the specious arguements* and inappropriate qualifications** got to me.

This businessman with his business qualifications is part of a business-promoting political movement https://independentaustralia.net/environment/environment-display/galileo-movement-fabricates-science-to-fuel-climate-divide,3587 The only real science in sight was the name they chose.

The only 'great' in that video is deception. Roberts himself had his Senatorship revoked in 2017 because he failed to declare/sort out salient facts and thereby broke Australian senate rules. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Roberts_(politician) The fact that he remains British is no cause for me to celebrate.



* As a comparison 12mg/ltr is the minimum amount of vitamin D you should have in your body - that is (as a litre of blood weighs about a kilogram) 0.000000012%. Different substances produce different amounts of effect; ergo the arguement is specious unless the precice effect is incorporated. It was not. Telling the truth in a way calculated to decieve is a great propaganda tool.

**Business qualifications not science ones. Believe buisnessmen about buisness; believe scientists about science and disgraced/thrown-out politicians not at all.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jacksdad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2019 at 2:59am
Temperature sets CO2 levels? That's the first time I've heard that one.

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"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carbon20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2019 at 2:29pm
the explanation of Climate change is:

We Humans are the cause

all 7.5 Billions,

with our Cars ,Planes ,Ships,Sewerage,Plastic waste killing marine life....

175 years ago there was,no cars ,planes ,Powered ships,Plastic bags,

and the population was 2 billion,

at the time of Christ 300 million ,(not much s..t in the Oceans then)

we are the Cause

nothing we can do about it though.....

bring on the Slate Wiper.......

without Humans the Planet would Thrive Again

We are the cause of All the pollution..........
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This young whale died with 88 pounds of plastic in its stomach
The animal in the Philippines likely starved because its stomach was full of plastic, not food.
3 MINUTE READ
BY ALEJANDRA BORUNDA

PUBLISHED MARCH 18, 2019

This article was created in partnership with the National Geographic Society.
ON SATURDAY, THE curators at a natural history museum in Davao City, the Philippines, got a call from the local marine agency: An emaciated-looking whale in the Davao Gulf was vomiting blood, listing badly as it swam, and was very likely going to die shortly. They should come pick up its body.

When Darrell Blatchley, a marine mammal expert and the curator at the D’Bone Collector Museum in Davao City, brought the whale back to the lab to open it up for a necropsy, he found something shocking: more than 88 pounds of plastic waste jammed into its belly.

“Plastic was just bursting out of its stomach,” he said. “We pulled out the first bag, then the second. By the time we hit 16 rice sacks—on top of the plastic bags, and the snack bags, and big tangles of nylon ropes, you're like—seriously?”

His son, who was attending the necropsy, said “Dad, how did it even live this long?”



The plastic trash was so densely packed into the dead whale's stomach that it felt as “hard and compacted as a baseball,” he said, only many times bigger—more like two dense basketballs of trash, about eight percent of the juvenile beaked whale's total weight. Some of it had been in the stomach so long it had started to calcify.


In most cases, the amount of plastic animals ingest isn’t enough to kill them, says Matthew Savoca, a Stanford-based whale expert who also studies plastic pollution. But the effects can cascade, even if only a little bit of plastic lodges in their bellies, taking up valuable space. “If you’re eating 10 percent less calories than your neighbor, day after day, that adds up,” says Savoca.

“Basically, wherever we're looking for plastics, we're finding them,” says Savoca, “Now, we’re seeing that even in places humans never even have been close to, we find our trash. And not just that, but animals eating our trash.”

The waters around the Philippines are particularly treacherous for many marine animals. The country is one of the most prolific plastic polluters in the world, and many of its waterways are thick with trash.

The country has many laws in place that aim to curb plastic pollution, but enforcement has been light, and the logistics of managing waste disposal across the country’s more than 7,000 islands is challenging, and plastic-wrapped items are for sale nearly everywhere.

Blatchley has recovered 61 whales that died in the nearby Davao Gulf. Of those, he estimates that plastics were the cause of death for about 45 of them. The problem is exacerbated, he says, by heavy fishing in the region, which has limited the amount of food available for the whales to eat, making them even more likely to try to eat plastics floating nearby.

“It’s just tragic that this is becoming the norm, to expect that these whales will die because of plastic rather than from natural causes,” he says. “We’re losing them faster than they can evolve to learn not to eat the plastic.”

National Geographic is committed to reducing plastics pollution. Learn more about our non-profit activities at natgeo.org/plastics. Learn what you can do to reduce your own single-use plastics, and take your pledge.

The National Geographic Society and Sky Ocean Ventures have launched the Ocean Plastic Innovation Challenge, which asks problem solvers around the globe to develop novel solutions to tackle the world’s plastic waste crisis. Have an idea? Submit your solution by June 11 at oceanplastic-challenge.org.
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I am not sure we are the sole cause of climate change, there are natural cycles too. We are certainly responsible for both the speed and intensity of this one; we may even be responsible for its direction.

Let me explain:

We are currently in an intergalacial period (hot time) between ice ages and have been (probably) due to turn round into the next one. We have gotten warmer instead.

When the black death swept across Europe, so many died that we stopped cutting down trees for construction. No need to build houses when so many stood empty.

A couple of hundred years later (when the next generation of trees matured) we had the mini-ice-age. This coincided with a solar minimum, but that was insufficient to cause the level of cooling experienced. The trees did the rest AND THAT WAS REFORESTATION OF EUROPE ALONE 10.18 million km² = 0.2% of the Earth's surface!!!

Worse than our CO2 emissions is our deforestation.

Put together, we just might be responsible for MORE global warming than we are seeing. If it did save us from an ice age.

Before that is pounced on, Hubby takes a blood pressure drug - 5mg lowers his blood pressure and thereby his risk of heart attack and stroke. If he took 10mg he would have fainting fits and if he took 50mg it would kill him. Likewise: some CO2 is good, but lots is bad. We passed minor overdose levels at least 50 years ago, we are rapidly heading for a catastrophic overdose.

I disagree that it is time to panic, but we are stupidly late in taking it seriously.

As to polution, TIME TO PANIC!!!
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great it's cool very informative
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