What is Going On?

We need to put aside our differences and work together for a common cause. That's hard to do when people are narrow-minded. Not good to call people imbecile's either. :) just sayin'. :)

The "imbecile" quote was for Rodney King after everything that had happened. He really came off looking that way when all was said and done. Pretty much all sides used the refference :-).

Not really on topic, but can members please resist the urge to post with their screen name, then log back on as a guest and reply to their own post as someone else. The mods see your ip address. The reason I mention it is that we had it happen over at EbolaInfo and Albert had to step in. Not cool.

I have a rule I enforce big time in my work place! Leave your politics, religion and music at home! No one cares what you believe and chances are you're not going to change any ones mind! It reduces arguments between employees by 90%!

Astro you really appear to be a mess. Are you ok?

Guilty as charged Kiwi Mum. Mia culpa, Mia culpa, Mia maxima culpa!

Not your classiest contribution, Astro. You're trying to get a rise again. Please don't  - it serves no purpose and doesn't show you in a good light. You post much better than this. Inappropriate posts will continue to be hidden.

Excellent rule KiwiMum! There are always certain subjects that tend to set people off. What surprises me the most is why people think they need to share in the first place if it was never brought up.

There is so much info here I'm really saddened to see the thread go completely off topic and when people try to bring it back the off topic stuff becomes more important.

Admittedly, there are times when I flat out don't understand what is trying to be said. But I figure that's my own fault, not theirs. It certainly isn't a reason to attack. Hopefully we can all learn from each other without insults and personal remarks.

pheasant wrote: This virus is a very serious matter, and the threat it poses is very high. I believe the emotional outbursts being reflected in some of the posts may be frustration, and unleashed anger, concern and maybe a little fear of the unknown.

Well said, Penham.

Originally posted by arirish arirish wrote:

I have a rule I enforce big time in my work place! Leave your politics, religion and music at home! No one cares what you believe and chances are you're not going to change any ones mind! It reduces arguments between employees by 90%!


Please tell me what conversation you can have without it having political or religious philosophy behind those conversations. Ebola, very nasty disease which is being treated in most of the cases by people that have a religious conviction to help the poor, this is a biblical principle. Your own words are and comments are formed by your political and religious believes. Sodomy is always a good topic to talk about when it comes to children being abused, where do we learn that it is not an acceptable practice, from our religious background, so I guess child abuse is not discussed in your workplace.

This web site condemns the lack of response of our political leaders in cases like the Ebola outbreak so it must be that you restrict the conversation in your work place to not including Ebola.

Please tell me what conversations you would condone in the work place that does not have a political or religious bases. Sex? That has both on multiple levels as the religious says " go forth and multiply" Political says gay marriage ok, these two diverse thoughts met head on in a discussion as both sides have a different bases for their beliefs.

I believe all people have their beliefs (thoughts and opinions} based on their religious beliefs or lack there of.

Please look at the tag lines and pictures of the posters on this web site and you will see what I mean.

So to ban political and religious comments on this thread or any thread would shut this web site down.

OriginalHappyCamper - this place will always have debates colored by religion and politics. It's the nature of the forum and I don't think anyone wants to stifle that. I just think that most of us would like to see less fighting and name calling associated with either. Don't get me wrong - I've done my fair share of both in the past, but for those not involved it is a huge distraction to see a long drawn out battle ensuing between two or three members who normally get along fine. I think it boils down to a little mutual respect and tolerance.
But then I'm also hoping that the patch of hair on the top of my head will magically stop thinning, and I don't see that happening either

Original Happy Camper, every life experience colours our thoughts and actions, and as a result we are all complex creatures, which is wonderful. Life would be very dull if we were all the same. The point I'd like to make is that it is possible to include religion and politics in virtually every conversation (except perhaps the one about which mattress to buy), but we all need to exercise a bit of personal discipline.

KiwiMum wrote: Original Happy Camper, every life experience colours our thoughts and actions, and as a result we are all complex creatures, which is wonderful. Life would be very dull if we were all the same. The point I'd like to make is that it is possible to include religion and politics in virtually every conversation (except perhaps the one about which mattress to buy), but we all need to exercise a bit of personal discipline. The problem is when one person feels superior over another and feels compelled to point it out. We are all here because we are concerned about contagious diseases and that is our common cause and we should try to remain focussed on that.  If the aim of this site is to keep people informed and to offer advice and assistance to the ill informed as well as reassurance to the prepared, then a whole heap of petty infighting and nit picking is the quickest way to scare newbies and seasoned followers away.  Religious mud slinging is offensive on any level as we are all entitled to our own opinions and I've never heard of a single conversion happening due to insulting a persons beliefs. Frankly it doesn't matter is I am a Hindu, a satanist or an agnostic, I still know a great deal about running a small holding and I still make damn good butter and I can still share that knowledge with anyone who is interested.

Well Said!

I mean you no personal offence Original Happy Camper, the point I'm trying to make is one of relevance. Religion is not relevant in a conversation about butter making, but it is in one about the afterlife. On this site we are mainly talking about diseases and preparing to survive them, we are not talking about whether the disease in question is a punishment from God.

That's why we now have an Off Topic forum.  That could be an answer to satisfy all... those that wish to come here & be informed but also stop by to say hello or strike up an intelligent conversation or post about EMPs ... etc.... and at the same time satisfy those who want to scroll through Gen Discussion & Latest News & only see posts related to the current threat & not see posts littered with off topic or out of this world discussions.  If you don't like that sort of thing only want to come here for the latest up to date news then you can skip the Off Topic forum all together.