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    Posted: June 10 2006 at 4:21pm
Can we hear the different ideas and products the group has made for drinking water and storage?
 
I did two things (always have a backup)
 
1) Water Bladders (3 x 250 gallons)
 
Stationary storage that takes very little room
 
2) British Berkey water filtration (Used by relief agencies in some really nasty water)
 
Portable, endless supply (25 gallons per day), small storage
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I have a similar arrangement, but with the addition of a couple of inflatable swimming pools as well for emergency storage:

1) Water Bladders (2x150gal; 1x350 gal)

2) Two 55 gal barrels

3) Berkey Light

4) Hiking filter (for bug out bag)

5) two inflatable swimming pools (1000 gal and 1700 gal).

I don't really want to use the swimming pools except as a last resort as I have read that PVC pools may shed a chemical (pfelates?sp) that is carcinogenic.  I am not sure the Berkey will filter the chemical out.  There is an entire thread in Fluwiki discussing the use of PVC pools for water storage if you need more info.

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I'm on a well -- it's shared with 8 families & it's got a 5,000 gallon holding tank. It's also too deep to power with a generator, so if the power goes off, I'm up a creek once the water's used up. And I'd be hauling it by hand from the tank as it doesn't gravity feed. I also have a 250 gallon holding tank I'm putting in on my property because I'm sick of having no water when the well goes out. (See above about not gravity feeding.)

If TSHTF, however, I'm headed for my father's cabin in N. AZ, though, which has an ample natural supply of water. I couldn't live out here long term if we had a major pandemic and civilization fell apart. Water WOULD be an issue, and food would be a bigger issue. (I could probably divert enough rainwater from the roof to keep from dying of dehydration -- but I certainly wouldn't get enough to grow anything with.)
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Our well is too deep also..  We have a bladder still in the box from y2k.   I have a couple of wading pools for standby, but I am trying to remember a device they had a while back that you could drop down a deep well by hand and pull up a gallon or so at a time. It had a ball float that would drop into place to hold the water while you drew it up.  Also at most farm supply stors they have those large plastic tanks that you carry on the back of a pickup.  They suggested them for y2k in their adds back in 99, so I assume they would be safe...  I will look into one of those most likely....

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I am lacking in water storage, I have only individual gallons about 150 . My house is such there is no access to the cellar from inside. I would have to go outside. 55 gallon drums would be great,but I'd probably be seen bringing up water.How long would it be before someone broke in the cellar? I've thought about having a trap door cut in,but no funds to hire someone,and being a manless household I am at a loss. Somewhere I read even though the water may not be chlorinated in emergency situtations they would let it run. So I'll be refilling and sanitizing with clorox and hydrogen peroxcide.
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We have 6 55 gallon barrels 2 6 gallon barrels an aboveground pool which we are going to use for wash water to clean up with and if needed drinking water. We also  have a bunch of 2 litter bottles filled which we are rotating. I still feel as if we need more.
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Originally posted by Pixie Pixie wrote:

I am lacking in water storage, I have only individual gallons about 150 . My house is such there is no access to the cellar from inside. I would have to go outside. 55 gallon drums would be great,but I'd probably be seen bringing up water.How long would it be before someone broke in the cellar? I've thought about having a trap door cut in,but no funds to hire someone,and being a manless household I am at a loss. Somewhere I read even though the water may not be chlorinated in emergency situations they would let it run. So I'll be refilling and sanitizing with clorox and hydrogen peroxide.
 
I would worry about storage prior to the threat of a break in. Just my opinion but fear of the outdoors should not be in a plan and there are remedies to protect outdoor storage (cans on string, dog, trip flares, etc...)
 
Buy "food grade" hydrogen peroxide. I learned this from an engineer.
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  I contracted to have a maunal well put in six months.  In Jan. the contractor told me he had enough work to last a year.  He said he would contact me when he got to my area.  Two weeks ago he got to me.  He did most of the work then and came back to finish today.  He said there are so many people getting wells put in  since Katrina.  Stated he has never seen it this busy before.  I wonder how many are preparing for bird flu?  So as for my water I have 4-55 gal. drumbs, 3-35gal. drumbs 15-five gal. containers and a manual well.  This was such a relief to get the well after waiting so long.  I plan to buy some individual gallons of water from the store also.
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We have a well and bought a generator, but I see some people have wells that are too deep for a generator. How deep is too deep? Ours is about 225 feet.
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 Hi guys.....What the heck is a water bladder?  Where do you get all these bladders and barrels?      
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Hello Trisha,
 
I bought mine from a hurricane supply company. They are "food grade" and I really went off the deep end and bought a pressurization system for the house (not needed for basic). I broke my neck a few years ago so I have to get extreme to make things easy. I can move around but it hurts to do to much.
 
I went to www.waterunner.com and selected a system. The bladders on their own are all you need.
 
 
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In terms of water storage, at the moment we have about 50 gal total. This will be augmented over the next few weeks. Fortunately, we have a barrel dealer about three blocks away from the house. Water barrels are a common site in this area, as so many people live on small ranches and the like.
We plan on at least 2 55-gallon barrels, which we plan on tying into our still non-existent rain gutters. Another item for the to-do list. The area we're in averages about 12-18 inches per year, and we're way below that so far this year. So rain gutters haven't been a major priority until now. Also, the city's water source is a rather polluted river. If the water is pumped through the pipes unchlorinated, it would be very bad to drink it untreated.
 
Question: Someone mentioned bleach and food grad hydro-peroxide. How does that work?
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We have 1-55 gal water drum with spigot (Atwoods), several 6-gallon water containers (Walmart), regular gallons of water, cases of individual bottled water and 12,000 gallons of pool water, and we are saving empty 2-liter soda bottles and juice bottles to fill with water.
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I plan on raiding my neighbors homes for water. Okay, just kidding! I really dont think we will have a water crisis. Im sure states will mandate that utility workers show up for work. They will be the front lines along with medical workers to receive protective equipment and viral shots. I would be more concerned with power lines going down during the winter months from ice or storms. You could be without power and heat for days.
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I buy water every time I shop and at this point have about 40 gallons of bottled and jugged water, plus two 7-gallon and one 5-gallon containers that will be filled later.

There are three forgotten-until-yesterday containers in my home and I can't believe I overlooked them for so long: empty 10, 20 and 55 gallon aquariums. After a good cleaning they could be filled and then filtered and aerated while the power is on. Additionally, the family room/den used to be a 2 car garage and would support the weight of a kiddy pool or two.  
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if you need water
 
plastic freezer bags put over leaves of a non toxic tree and held on with a clothes peg will draw water out of the leaves
 
with enough plastic bags you could have a bath every day
 
I lived in the desert and can survive where no body else can
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I was asked for this information on the other site so I thought I would add it here in case someone is seeking these items.

This is where I purchased the bladders and Berkey. You might be able to find a better deal but this was the best I could find at the time.
 
This type of storage is easy, maintenance free (until filled), and no shelf life.
 
Water Bladders (several sizes and choices)
 
 
In the event I need to use the bladders (fill them) we plan on using the garage slab. They are like a food grade water bed and when full have the same weight factor. Plan the placement on a very solid and structural load bearing floor, ground, or concrete slab. 
 
I prefer the items that take little shelf space and can be thrown onto a shelf and forgotten until needed.
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I have over 300 2 litter containers, 150 - gallon aqua tank, 12 cases bottled water, and a 10,000 gallon above ground pool....which I'm not counting on since my neighbors all know about it, I'm sure they will help themselves if it gets as bad as that.  Im going to think of it as my contribution to the neighborhood. Smile
 
 
 
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Hello Strawberry,
 
Just a note about pool water; don't use it for drinking water. The chemicals used to keep it looking good will cause liver failure.
 
I don't know how or why it does this but I sat in on a meeting years ago for the LAX planning and the issue came up. They built large storage tanks to accommodate 60,000 people. I was trying to sell them a desalinization unit .
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I have a question about water. Where we live they have have just planted dozens of trees and were hauling in water. We were told that there was going to be a something like a water trough installed to collect rain in so no one would have to haul water in. Of course this got us to thinking about our plans for water in case BF hits and of course we didn't mention it to anyone. My question is this, if we put bleach and food grade hydrogen peroxide in this "water trough" would it be safe to drink? Wouldn't you boil it also. We have a small water purifier too. Any answers on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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