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Oh yeah, I just added superglue to my medical kit - lots of people swear by it instead of stitches...
 
 
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Hi fab4! I can tell you that my husband had a knee replacement last year and they glued the skin over his knee. No stiches or staples and at this time 1 year later you almost cannot see he even had an operation.

I am just not sure if the Dr's use the superglue we get at the grocery store or if there is a special superglue for surgery??

Anyone out there know the answer to this question.
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Just added Apple cider vinegar. Many medical uses:

http://vinegar.faithweb.com/about.html
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Just got my two 35g packets of Celox in the mail this morning.  The packets are huge, so if anyone buys any may want to get the smaller 15g packets.  It says on the packet that once you open and use you have to throw away the remaining contents.  I told my wife that I pray that I may never open these.
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Originally posted by Tadeo Tadeo wrote:

Just got my two 35g packets of Celox in the mail this morning.  The packets are huge, so if anyone buys any may want to get the smaller 15g packets.  It says on the packet that once you open and use you have to throw away the remaining contents.  I told my wife that I pray that I may never open these.


Thank you for the information. I have been looking at other products like Cleox and have discovered that Celox is the BEST. I will purchase the 15g packets. Where did you purchase yours from?

I also found out that Dermabond is the glue that can be used to "stich" the skin together. I would not suggest that people use superglue that you get at the store. Dermabond is not cheap but it is specific to skin use.

Keep the info coming it helps!
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FluMom, I searched around and found that this place was the cheapest:  http://www.rescue-essentials.com/servlet/Categories?category=CELOX

I recieved my order within two days of buying.  I went to their web site and got their  800 number and ordered over the phone.  The company is located in Colorado somewhere.  Also, if you get some don't forget to ask for the FREE  4" scissors.  These are the medical kind that cuts through anything. 
 
Shipping is a flat rate of $4.95
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Actually I was wrong about that price.  www.beyondbulbs.com was the cheapest at $13.95 for the 15g packets.  For the 35g size packets then www.rescue-essentials.com will be the cheapest.  I think beyondbulbs has a higher shipping rate whereas rescue was a flat $4.95 plus you get the free scissors.
 
I keep on updating here.  Anyways, beyond bulbs shipping for the 15g is $8.95.  Definetely go with rescue essentials.
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Originally posted by Tadeo Tadeo wrote:

Actually I was wrong about that price.  www.beyondbulbs.com was the cheapest at $13.95 for the 15g packets.  For the 35g size packets then www.rescue-essentials.com will be the cheapest.  I think beyondbulbs has a higher shipping rate whereas rescue was a flat $4.95 plus you get the free scissors.
 

I keep on updating here.  Anyways, beyond bulbs shipping for the 15g is $8.95.  Definetely go with rescue essentials.


Thank you Tadeo! You did find the cheapest 15g pkts, I saw one at 22.00. I will purchase from rescue - essentials.

I found the skin glue it is called Dermabond not cheap 28.00 for one application but if you need it it is better and easier than having to do stiches. It is only good on straight cuts no ragged cuts so I'm not sure what I want to do yet.

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$28.00 bucks, YIKES!  I wonder why one just can't use regular super glue for this?  I also looked into getting a stitch kit but I would probably sew myself to someone.  I'll look into this Dermabond.
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I haven't been able to find tons of info, the ingredients are very close.  Dermabond is supposed to stay on longer, doesn't sting, and is sterile.  What about the OTC Liquid Bandage?  I haven't tried it - any opinions on that?
 
I read this is supposed to be for smaller cuts - not recommended for gaping or jagged wounds.   Wound needs to be cleaned first, the edges pulled together then the glue applied.
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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

Hi fab4! I can tell you that my husband had a knee replacement last year and they glued the skin over his knee. No stiches or staples and at this time 1 year later you almost cannot see he even had an operation.

I am just not sure if the Dr's use the superglue we get at the grocery store or if there is a special superglue for surgery??

Anyone out there know the answer to this question.


I found the answer to my own question: Dermabond is what the Drs use.

It is not cheap 28.00 per use and it must be a straight cut no jagged edge cuts.

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Ok I'm sick guys I answered my question twice. I need to sleep!
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For those people who have suture packs, do you know how to use them? if not now is the time to sacrifice a couple of packs and practice on some raw meat, [the sunday pork roast or chicken are perhaps the best], slice into it then stitch it, now remove the stitches [cut the thread close to the skin and then pull through the otherside, you dont want a lot of thread going under the skin when removing them, think introducing infection. [will try and find some picture diagrams on how to do all these and then post them]
 
Once you feel confident that you can suture the meat it is time to apply oil to the surface and your hands, Why? to simulate blood; now practice some more, not easy is it.
 
Ok now you are perfect at this, what happens if you are the one who is injured, who is going to stitch you up, make sure other people know how to use the medical kits as well.
 
If you have younger children in your group add a picture first aid book, yes they are basic but they may help your 8-12 year old save someones life. If there are first aid courses available in your area why not enrole the family, this is one prep that could save a family members life in an emergency.
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Speaking of sutures - when my son got them, they used some cream to numb the area topically - does anyone know what that cream is?
 
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I'm still stocking masks when I find them at the outlet store I shop.Have over 200 hundred now.I got  17 boxes of 3M 8511 N95  10 to a box for 5.99 a box they sell on line for  around $18. a box.I was really happy.Of course the girls that work there wanted to know why buy so many the truth my husband has copd and works around chemicals.I don't tell them the whole true or all the good bargains I get for prepping there would be in their carts not mine.Survival.
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Why is that?  If I buy a large amount of something I always get some cashier asking what it is for.  Like, what the fudge is it their business what you are buying something for.  Cashier's need to mind their own business or lose mine.

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Starspirit, what kind of out let store has masks, if you don't mind me asking...I've paid full price for mine and I need to get some more.
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Another prep I just remembered that will come in handy for many reasons...large rolls of plastic sheeting. I bought 6 - 100 ft rolls. A few possible uses I see are extending gardening season by making a makeshift greenhouse or just frost protection, insulating windows from drafts, and rain collection. It's cheap at Menards, and relatively small to store.
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The Bargain Factory its a close out,damage freight from insurance companies,job lots,unclaimed freight that sort of stuff ..This one is very clean not trashy.They have houseware items,food,over counter meds,books,toys,lawn and garden.It always changes so I go often..They have helped my preps alot.Been going there for 3years .Sorta like Big Lots but much much better, its smaller but great bargains.Got blue 7 gal water jugs for 6.99.Its a great place.They have 4 stores in the KC metro  area.Look in yellow pages in your area for freight damaged store go check them out.Hopefully you'll find one that works for you.
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Originally posted by hachiban08 hachiban08 wrote:

I probably have the smallest list ever=[
I have been trying to do my preps for a while but i dont get to buy stuff very much becauase most of the $$ goes to bilss in my family and stuff, im only 17 ...
but i do have 30 cans of beans, 10 pounds of rice, the typical 5 lbs of sugar, 200 packets of green tea, like 3 or 4 survival food meals(camping and whatnot....)i also have, those on the go packets, about 4 boxes, i have 1 box of breakfast drinks,that'sabout it for now in the food dept......but in other things, i have an emergency radio from radio shack, 12 rolls of toilet paper off to the side...a huge bottle of hand sanitizer to save water, which i need^_^;
oh!!!! i have a question, how much water per person per day? i would like to know that. everytime i go to costco, people are always buying in bulk and fighting over stuffi n the aisles. its scaryand i walk past them, and they be saying, its for my emergency kit!! i need it!! i saw one person wheel out 12 cases of 24 pack water...it was scary O_O
Hachiban08, it sounds like you have a great start on your preps! congratulations on a well rounded collection, you'll be surprised how quickly  a couple of cans a week add up.
 
Save your containers that juice comes in, rinse well and refill for your stored water. Have two gallons per day per person. There are blue fifty gallon barrels at Sams. Each barrel would give a person one months supply of emergency water filled from your tap. Just rotate ever six months. You go girl-good job.Clap
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