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    Posted: July 18 2012 at 8:59pm
Guys you need to read this article on Whooping Cough.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/whooping-cough-cases-rise-york-urges-vaccinations-225137022.html

This is from the Drudge Report. New York is reporting lots of cases. Some of the people commenting are saying that many kids have been correctly vaccinated and are getting sick. Scary this can kill children and adults.

I don't know what to believe but I know my kid and I are up to date on Whooping Cough. All you can do is do your best the rest is up to God.
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I'm certainly no expert on infectious diseases, but I'd wager that many of today's children are simply lacking the proper diet to effectively fight off many of these diseases. The onset of diabetes in children and young adults is exploading, so what does that tell you? The human body was not designed to run on high carbohydrate, high sodium, processed filler, with very little or no nutritional value. And, lump on top of that the stresses and strains of living in a post first world country, where the two parent family is a rarity, and violence around every corner in the inner city, one shouldn't be surprised to see the reemergence of diseases taking its toll with or without vaccinations.
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The Belgrade childhood diabetes study: a multivariate analysis of risk determinants for diabetes
m.eurpub.oxfordjournals.org/content/15/2/117.full
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Because it was so bad in CA, you can't go to middle school without the vaccine. Some parents refuse to vaccinate due to the fears of getting Guillain-Barr or whatever. A lot tend to deny their kids based on religious reasons, or use it as their claim. Those instances are waived from needing the vaccinations.
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Who really benefits from a State mandated vaccination program? The health of the child or the profits of all those mandated jabs? When you refine human nature down your left with a lust for power and money through the use of fear.


Why Dr. Snyderman's Whooping Cough Vaccine Rant is a Total SHAM…articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/08/24/the-real-scoop-on-california-whooping-cough--using-fear-and-prejudice-to-attack-vaccine-exemption.aspx
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I HAD whooping cough last year and it was absolutely no fun.  (My immune system was low due to rotator cuff surgery.)  I coughed for 16 solid weeks.  It is far worse for kids than it is for adults.  You are contagious for about 2 or 3 weeks during which time you need to get on antibiotics.  After that time you aren't really contagious and antibiotics did help with my cough 6 weeks into it, but not completely.  Typically I would have coughing fits in the morning or evening and be OK during most of the day.  The humidity of the shower absolutely killed me as did the late night fits.  I went through 3 bags of cough drops just trying to fall asleep at night.
 
This article says that the new strain of whooping cough was caused by vaccines.  This is very interesting.  I had a tetanus shot a couple of years before which may have included the new strain of whooping cough aka pertussis.  (the Td vaccine (tetanus and diphtheria) or Tdap (tetanus, diphtheria, and acellular pertussis) is commonly used.)
 
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Yes, Elver I am worried about this new strain. If this is true there will be a lot of sick kids and adults. I work in a school...bet I get it if it is a new strain. I got a Tdap one year ago and it is good for like 5 years. I got it because of whooping cough going around the district.
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Vaccine induced inflammation could be partly responsible for the type 2 diabetes epidemic.
naturalsociety.com/vaccine-induced-inflammation-linked-type-2-diabetes/
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I'm not a believer that vaccines are good.  After learning that people have acquired cancer and leukemia from vaccines, I think I'll just leave the vaccinations alone.  A Merck scientist admitted that the green monkeys from Africa that were used to make vaccinations from years ago had the cancer virus in them.  If the pharmaceutical scientists won't take the vaccines, then why should we?
 
Read the transcript of an interview with Merck scientist Maurice Hilliman.
 
If you don't believe this transcript, you can find the actual interview on You Tube.  I've heard it 3 times.
 
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I'm with you Elver. It's hard for me to put my trust in man and big pharma to do the right thing for the benefit of mankind.
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mrmouse, what are we looking for in this law report?

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The link below refines the information from the Nuremberg Trail concerning IG Farben. When some are faced with uncomfortable information, they claim it's a conspiracy theory, so read the report for yourself and come to your own conclusion.

The History of the
"Business With Disease"
www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/PHARMACEUTICAL_BUSINESS/history_of_the_pharmaceutical_industry.htm
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Evidence Contradicts Whooping Cough Pro-Vaccine Propaganda
www.activistpost.com/2012/07/evidence-contradicts-whooping-cough-pro.html?m=1
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You anti-vaccine people are going to be the death of us ALL.  Your little minds cannot wrap around the fact that many of the diseases and illnesses resurging aroungthe world is because of you people who  are afraid, in one way or another, of the vaccines.
 
I will get most all the vaccines offered to keep from coming down with such things as whooping cough.  I would be really ***sed off if I had children who were in school and they got ill because of other kids' parents , who decided not to immunize their children from childhood diseases and such.  Wait...what am I saying...MY children wouldnt be sick because MY children would have the immunizations and vaccines they need to keep from being sickened and killed by the stupid adults around them.
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Well, there you have it. I'll be dead and you'll be alive!
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Originally posted by mrmouse mrmouse wrote:

Well, there you have it. I'll be dead and you'll be alive!
 
That is correct.  While my children would be healthy, you would be running around beetching and moaning, wanting somebody in authority to help your sick kids and such.
 
I think that if parents will not allow their children to immunized against childhood diseases and even adult diseases, then they should not be allowed in public shools around other children and teachers.  They should be homeschooled, isolated from the healthy people.
 
It's a small step from being a family who wont allow their kids to be immunized, to hosting or attending "bug" parties, where the goal is to intentionally become infected with whatever pathogen of the day is going around.
 
These people are sad indeed.
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As far as I know they are not allowed in the public school system unless they have all their vaccines. At least not in ours, anyway. I know when my daughter, needed a tetanus booster a couple of years ago, guess who let me know, lol, the school. They said, she needs it by this date or she can't come back to school.
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Originally posted by Penham Penham wrote:

As far as I know they are not allowed in the public school system unless they have all their vaccines. At least not in ours, anyway. I know when my daughter, needed a tetanus booster a couple of years ago, guess who let me know, lol, the school. They said, she needs it by this date or she can't come back to school.
 
I agree with you Penham.  Schools are pretty diligent about immunizations and such...as they should be.  After all, there must be SOME line of defense against those parents who think that all immunizations/vaccines are a government conspiracy or that they are causing autism and other such maladies to their kids.
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You can have a child in public school without any immunizations.  To do this you must get a waiver.  If anyone believes that immunizations really work then they shouldn't have to worry about anyone who isn't immunized, now should they?

Just because people have been led to believe that immunizations are good for them doesn't mean that they are.  In fact there is a growing amount of literature to the contrary.
 
Years ago, people also believed that blood letting and shock therapy were good for them.
 
Anyone who really believes that immunizations are good for them needs to put their blind faith away while they research this vital subject!
 
Baby monkeys given standard doses of popular vaccines develop Autism Symptoms. 
 
One of my very favorite articles here.
 Barbara Loe Fisher, president and co-founder of the National Vaccine Information Center, a non-profit organization which advocates vaccine safety, testified before the House Government Reform Committee's subcommittee on Human Rights and Wellness in September 2003 that

[T]oday, U.S. federal health agencies admit the following two facts: (1) Salk polio vaccine released for public use between 1955 and 1963 was contaminated with SV40; and SV40 has been proven to cause cancer in animals.

Continuing, Fisher said that at a 1997 conference on SV40 and human cancers held by the National Institutes of Health which she attended, "there was no disagreement among both government and non-government scientists about these two facts.

The only disagreement was whether SV40 was actually being identified in the cancerous tumors of children and adults alive today and, if it was, whether the monkey virus was in fact responsible for their cancer. Non-government scientists working in independent labs around the world said, 'Yes.' But the scientists connected with the U.S. government said 'No.'"

Fisher went on to say that "credentialed non-government scientists in multiple labs around the world continue to identify SV40 in human brain and lung cancers of children and adults and are finding that SV40 is also associated with bone cancers and Non-Hodgkin's Lymphomas."

Despite ongoing denials, an increasing number of researchers continue to maintain that not only is there a bona fide link between Salk's SV40-tainted vaccines and cancer, that federal government officials and agencies responsible for ensuring the safety of such vaccines - then and now - are loathe to admit it, perhaps because they fear the fallout in terms of lawsuits and lost credibility.
 
 
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