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    Posted: April 07 2017 at 8:00am
It has not been quiet in the world. It is ironic that the most significant news as I have called it "The Real News" has been buried by the whining Democrats over a lost election. There will be no discovery that Trump was in league with Russia who got him in, a criminal, and then he can  be excommunicated - i.e. impeached as Hilary Clinton runs again to win for the alternate live style forces in an unprecedented election.

It's over Hillary. And despite a lot of blustering on a tough policy for what has been a ludicrous handling of foreign policy in Syria for the last 8 years - there is a  new kid in town. 

Trump is on the hit list. ISIS, illegal immigrants, and even terrorists backed by the U.S. in Syria - it's a new game.

There were no warm embraces or public meetings of Trump and Putin before cameras. Perhaps the Russians thought Trump would be a bumbling psychopath and stand back and do nothing as Russia and China continued to take advantage of a power vacuum created by the worry more about transsexual bathroom than the national security of our nation - worrying about LGBT - which is basically frowned on by the Christians who make up more than 70% of America.

Not meant to offend anyone - but America was not designed based on the extremist liberals - the constitution and our government was created to protect us against a mob mentality majority versus an intelligent governing group to balance in law and legislature a group-hanging-mob-mentality.

Moving right along - been a long time for me I have been so busy surviving and reading the insane false news for CNN - Washington Post - and a now partially reformed FOX network. Most of it was fantasy.

What is the real news - today and how will it effect you on foreign policy?

Our president has ordered an attack which was carried out on the Assad regime for using nerve gas on civilians. This is not the first time but we grow nearer to it being the last.  What happened?  It is pretty shocking.

So busy destroying families, legalizing killing the unborn until a point where it is murder in the last stages, they have forgotten the barbarians at the gates. This not Assad's first walk in the park at killing children.

Warning - this is a deeply disturbing video - this is the reality - the real news at to what has been happening in Syria for the last 4 years -



And despite the propaganda being pushed that that Sarin gas was an explosion set off by terrorists the attack was from jets in they sky - an air force delivering and bombing civilians with chemical weapons. This is an atrocity and a call to end the use of weapons of mass-destruction and stop their spread to unstable countries who will irresponsibly use them eventually on America as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5ihtRk6vPY


Sarin gas - a terrible thing - how long will it be until it is used in America in a subway in a major city - and then - well that is the way it was - no action.

Today was different. Today

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/07/donald-trump-launches-us-air-strikes-against-assad-regime-syria/

In remarks that could have come from George W. Bush’s or Hillary Clinton’s lips, Trump reminded the country Thursday night in a brief statement of the “horrible chemical weapons attack on innocent civilians using a deadly nerve agent.” He continued:

It was a slow and brutal death for so many even beautiful babies were cruelly murdered in this very barbaric attack. No child of God should ever suffer such horror. Tonight I ordered a targeted military strike on the airfield in Syria from where the chemical attack was launched. It is in this vital national security interest of the United States to prevent and deter the spread and use of deadly chemical weapons.

There can be no dispute that Syria used banned chemical weapons, violated its obligations under the Chemical Weapons Convention and ignored the urging of the U.N. Security Council. Years of previous attempts at changing Assad’s behavior have all failed and failed very dramatically. As a result the refugee crisis continues to deepen and the region continues to destabilize, threatening the United States and its allies.

comment: How will Russian and China respond to this?  Are we on the threshold of World War 3?  What good would it do?

One thing is for certain. Attacks against the innocents, devastation of Mosul and torturing and murder have been carried out throughout the last 8 years and nothing was done about it.

In one hour - something was.

Whatever label has been given to the U.S. president - it is actions that count beyond all the words - today we saw not a lawyer rambling on and saying nothing - I say - beyond all doubt - we saw a general - ordering his troops as the Commander-in-Chief to stop and show the world - we will act and make America - great again.

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In closing I would say to the Muslims of the world - the U.S. is not your enemy - it is the radicals and extremists which are a small part and do so much damage. We can live together in peace - for there is little doubt that these children - the ones we are trying to protect - were Muslim. And as I watched this video - my heart ached and there were tears - for people not of my faith or country - who I love as well.






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Breaking News - Dr broadcasting video from the scene of the attack - CWN - The Real News

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Med - don't forget that the general you refer to got the job by default. When actually called to action, he obtained five deferments and avoided military service. Just saying.

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Originally posted by jacksdad jacksdad wrote:

Med - don't forget that the general you refer to got the job by default. When actually called to action, he obtained five deferments and avoided military service. Just saying.



There is what was and what is. The Apostle Paul in the Bible held the coats of those who stoned the martyr Stephen and persecuted and hunted Christians. If we do not allow people to change and respect they have - then what hope is there for any of us?

I am a veteran and served during Vietnam. What I see is someone who is trying strengthen our military and act. Hillary was not a veteran - Barack Obama never served - neither did Bill Clinton.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States_by_military_rank

Most of our other recent presidents have - including JFK.

The presidency is responsibility which begins the day they are sworn into office. Notice there is no real news from Russia on this. 

https://www.rt.com/news/383895-us-airstrike-syria-reactions/


The US launched a missile strike on a Syrian airbase, killing at least six people, including civilians, and wounding several others. Reactions to the operation continue to roll in, with Russia condemning it while EU countries and others express support.

US President Donald Trump ordered the military strike on an airfield in Shayrat, near Homs, which resulted in a Friday pre-dawn attack in which 59 Tomahawk missiles were deployed. 

Washington claimed the strike was a response to an earlier alleged chemical attack in Syria’s Idlib, for which the US blamed the Syrian government.

Six MiG-23 fighter jets were destroyed in the operation, along with a material storage depot, a training facility, a canteen and a radar station, according to Russia's Ministry of Defense (MoD).

After watching RT videos of them launching cruise missiles perhaps it is time for one of our own -

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http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/04/07/tony-shaffer-syria-airstrikes-message-trump-sent-syria-russia-iran-china-others

The Trump administration's airstrikes on a Syrian air base show our allies and adversaries that there's been a "paradigm shift" in U.S. foreign policy, according to Tony Shaffer.

Shaffer, a retired lieutenant colonel and intelligence expert, said on "Your World" today that we finally have a commander-and-chief who's willing to take action in President Trump.

"The Obama administration, to a fault, removed military capabilities from any negotiation," Shaffer said. "I think that gave the State Department a huge disadvantage."

He said that last night's airstrikes sent a clear message to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his allies Russia and Iran that "the game has changed."

comment: There has been a profound change in media in the last 72 hours concerning Donald Trump. Although there are the lingering nagging whining far left liberals crying out the Syrian airstrike was illegal and unlawful - it was completely legal and finally we have a Commander-In-Chief at the helm of the American nation as i posted earlier.

The last eight years have been a time of boldface lies from the executive branch on downward. There was no elimination of chemical weapons in Syria. They are still there - still usable and we found the smoking gun with satellite. Storage facilities for them which means it was Assad who ordered them and his air-force that carried them out. That is the intelligence we have with a high confidence level which monitored the attack on radar, then all the civilians - with a lot of children - began to flood and overwhelm the local medical facilities.

This wasn't a big drum role as we sent in special forces in the dozens verses a war being fought in the thousands on the ground.

So it remains a reality - as Russian warships move to apparently defend Assad - what is next?

Hillary Clinton is nowhere in sight and not a word has been spoken. Isn't this ironic. Not a syllable either from our ex-president Barack Obama who was going to keep involved.

As the knife sinks deeper with tales of spying and the abuse of power and information the major intelligent organizations have gone silent. To unmask those who were unmasked and after a few months of denial - to finally admit that Susan Rice requested the information and misused it - it is far worse than the Russian witch hunt which is still not providing any clear evidence of conspiracy.

It's a new game. And it is surely a game - despite all the somber reminders Russian could launch after we have a showdown off the coast of Syria. There has been news of ship movement by Russia for years.

One thing is clear. No nation respects or negotiates if the U.S. continued to pay protection money to terrorists and financed their operations with U.S. tax dollars in Iran.

The media is the media. Eventually they will learn what is news and what is not. It is certainly more interesting to read about Syria than an endless rant on a lost election.

It's over. There will not be a new election and Trump will not be impeached. In a world of truly vicious and unpredictable leaders like Kim  Jong-un who may have to duck and cover in the face and reality of military action by the U.S., it is a refreshing turn of events.

When Saddam Hussein launched missiles on Israel and some made it, it was a time to take action. George W. Bush and Tony Blair from the U.K. asked them to hold off until we could respond - it was a time when for the first time since J.F.K. and the Cuban missile standoff with Russia - the countries of the world respected the U.S. who took leadership and action to defeat a madman.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/january/18/newsid_4588000/4588486.stm

It is a matter of time until Kim Jong-un lobs a missile into South Korea or even Japan. China was taking over the China Sea and claiming it and Russia was on its way to taking the Baltic a country at time to restore what was Mother Russia to its former power and united might.

I have sat back and watched all of this election craziness, and as a veteran and student of history, I see our military crippled and our Air Force now badly decaying struggling to keep up. We need to focus on immigration, jobs, and the economy. Certainly the stock market seems to favor the turns of events for the last 6 months.

We cannot afford to get behind on either military or cyber technology with Russian missiles that can now move through our radar and take out an area the size of Texas which a single bomber.

As for Trump - give the man credit. The Democrats have failed to support one single major change he has tried to do and the press until 72 hours ago and relentlessly aired false news and conspiracy nonsense worthy of Alex Jones - Prison Planet.

In medical training serving for the U.S. Army in Texas training at Ft. Sam Houston I learned the value of triage.  Treating the wounded that can be saved and go back to fight. Also learned about picking your battles. A clearly defined honed appropriate counter-strike shows wisdom.

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What happens next will be a big key to the future.

Will there be more chemical weapon attacks?  If so then I expect wide spread bombings of all or most of Syrian airfields. 

But will Russia's offer to increase air defense cause casualties for the USA in the case of further raids, or will further raids kill Russian personnel?   -  Either case could lead to much more serious implications.

Even, if chemical weapons are not used, will there be more bombings of hospitals? And if so what sort of response might be expected.

So many areas where this might get out of hand.


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did someone here mention Prison Planet and ALex Jones ?

Alex Jones: Syrian Chemical Attack Was 'False Flag' Trump Knew Was False



http://crooksandliars.com/2017/04/alex-jones-syrian-chemical-weapons-attack

Jones is one of Trump's STRONGEST supporters

interesting that the alt-right and more main stream right wingers have turned against Trump after this whole Syria thing
Ron Paul for example

HIGHLY likely that this whole thing is a FRAUD from start to finish
Assad isn't stupid
why lob a sarin gas shell knowing what the consequences would likely be
conventional explosives could have been used and NO ONE would have said anything about ANY of those deaths
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Kunstler: Bombs Away!


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Close your eyes, click your heels three times, and tell me if you actually know what the ***** is happening in Syria. There’s an awful lot about the poison gas attack that doesn’t add up for the casual observer. It was only a week ago that the US enunciated a new policy that we would be content for Bashar al Assad to remain in power presiding over the Syrian government — after years of grousing and threats against him. Apparently Trump Central had concluded that Assad was a better alternative than another failed state in the Middle East with no government at all.

That policy change was a yuge benefit for Assad
The outstanding question remains: what might have possibly motivated Bashar al Assad to turn upside down a situation of great advantage to himself mere days after he achieved it? It will be interesting to see if a credible response emerges from the hall of mirrors that US policy has become."

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inquiring minds wanna know !!!
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Pentagon Trained Syria’s Al Qaeda “Rebels” in the Use of Chemical Weapons

http://www.blacklistednews.com/Pentagon_Trained_Syria%E2%80%99s_Al_Qaeda_%E2%80%9CRebels%E2%80%9D_in_the_Use_of_Chemical_Weapons/57792/0/38/38/Y/M.html


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The Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons sent a team to Syria.    Established in 1997 and based in The Hague, the organization is charged with enforcing the Chemical Weapons Convention that bans such arms. 

As of last fall, it reported that 67,098 metric tons of chemical agents, or 90 percent of the world’s declared stockpile of 72,304 metric tons, had been “verifiably destroyed.”  https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/world/middleeast/werent-syrias-chemical-weapons-destroyed-its-complicated.html?_r=0

Folks, it only takes a little bit of a nerve agent to put you down for good.  One pinhead-sized drop of VX is all it takes...

Apparently, Mr. Assad was keeping some in reserve, and I think it was naive to think he would do otherwise.  

Trump should have done something like the Israelis would have done = tried to locate Assad and kill him with a missile barrage, or decapitate his military high command.  

Blowing up an airfield is similar  to the "shooting a missile up a camel's butt" that Clinton did in Afghanistan.  

My concern now is that, since Assad is not neutralized, he can disperse nerve agents throughout the West and attack airports, subways etc. to cause mayhem.  I would. 

Be sure you know what the acronym SLUDGEM means, and keep your eyes on the news.  
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Time to add atropine to our preps, Chuck? Ermm


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Make your own: deadly nightshade (atropa belladonna) - extraction by alcoholic tincture.
                                                                                                                                             Grow foxgloves too - (digitalis purpurea) they are the antidote if nightshade is overused. 



(Incidentally, foxgloves are themselves useful in cases of congestive heart failure.  But, being a source of digitalis easily prone to overdose - so, belladonna is the antidote there.  How neat is that?).................  And they look gorgeous in my garden.  I love my herbs!






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Originally posted by jacksdad jacksdad wrote:

Time to add atropine to our preps, Chuck? Ermm



You said it, I didn't!  Clap

Actually, I don't think so - nerve agents are best used in dense, urban environments, so they are a "one-off" event.  They could kill hundreds to thousands if applied properly (Super Bowl?), but they wouldn't spread like a biological agent (smallpox etc.) would. 

I'm most concerned that Kim Jong Un will put a nuke into a shipping container and send it to SF or LA harbor.  He doesn't need an ICBM to do that.  Taking out a major city like SF or LA would be a huge blow to the USA for sure.  
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The question is whether China will preemptively strike North Korea or one we on the verge of a nuclear attack ordered by Kim Jong-un. These are dangerous waters we are sailing into. Is the U.S. prepared economically for another North Korean War?  Or would it actually trigger a China-U.S. partnership versus Russia?

North Korea does have the nuclear capability to target and perhaps hit Seoul in South Korea. Although we are setting up high tech defenses with the Thaad anti-missile system.

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Are we on the verge of World War 3?

A high altitude burst of the Dong Feng 31-A would knock out a large part of the United States power grid. An even worse scenario is with the Dong Feng 5.  A massive reduction in the Chinese population would benefit them.

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Despite massive arguing over Donald Trump and the flooding of the "Not the Real News" media, is it safe to run the country like a business?

Perhaps not. Donald Trump's recent move into the world stage with the bold move of bombing Syria over a serious horrific use of chemical weapons on children has won him accolades of praise but bombing North Korea who could hit South Korea with a nuke and start the war - is serious. And a response from China is even more so.

The Dong Feng 31-A ICBM is a nightmare. Even more so the Dong Feng 5a. How bad would it be?

Very.

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The attack on Syria was only the beginning. The U.S. has now become an active military force in the world. How far will this go? Will it lead us to World War 3?

It is clear that the U.S. is spending less time watching and more time acting than in the previous 8 years of the worst foreign policy in decades. It is clear the world is watching America and Trump who liked and hated by some demonstrates history is being made here. The question come to mind as the Romans lost their empire by fighting on too many fronts, can we afford to conduct so many wars in so many places. Yet the U.S. is the largest arms dealer in the world and perhaps many who sell weapons are saying – can we afford not to. Where will this all lead us? For now there is cheering in some places for a country that had become a follower rather than a leader on the world stage.

How will Russia and China react. Will they have more respect and try to work with us to end terrorism and rogue states which threaten both of them as well?  In the next few months – even weeks – I am sure we will know.


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Evacuation of Pyongyang has been ordered by Kim Jong-un. A big event for tomorrow - Easter - has been announced.

Why would he order people to leave the capital?

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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

did someone here mention Prison Planet and ALex Jones ?

Alex Jones: Syrian Chemical Attack Was 'False Flag' Trump Knew Was False



http://crooksandliars.com/2017/04/alex-jones-syrian-chemical-weapons-attack

Jones is one of Trump's STRONGEST supporters

interesting that the alt-right and more main stream right wingers have turned against Trump after this whole Syria thing
Ron Paul for example

HIGHLY likely that this whole thing is a FRAUD from start to finish
Assad isn't stupid
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conventional explosives could have been used and NO ONE would have said anything about ANY of those deaths


No one had done anything for 8 years and Assad has done this before. There are some many observers from several countries as well as radar which tracked the planes. More attacks were carried out after the first one and they have fixed their base and are still flying missions.

This of course goes far be beyond the attack in Syria. This is escalated to an attack in Afghanistan with MOAB (Mother of All Bombs) and Generals are asking for 100,000 - 150,000 ground troops for Syria.

Our generals have had their hands tied for a long time - especially in Afghanistan where it where remote bases did not have the people power to ensure their lives or security.

These were not  fake children or fake doctors.

There was a lot said when conventional weapons were used in the killing of children in Mosul.

There are some lines that should not be crossed. Targeting children with chemical weapons is one of them.

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One thing is for certain. Kim Jong-un is taking the mobilization of what Donald Trump called an Armada being sent to South Korea, seriously. In the process of evacuating the capital Pyongyang. While the most recent nuclear test was a failure, still it is likely that an attack and successful nuke of Seoul would set off what could be a nuclear war.

Just as Trump prides himself on not giving away his strategies, China and Russia are not without the means or motivation to step in after the first nuke hits.

Things are very serious today -Sunday - Easter - 2017 April 16, 2017.  It is interesting in the past as many of the most powerful countries have been rattling sabers, but the U.S. has a powerful submarine fleet and enough nuclear arms to bury either country. One might remember that Russian had been conducting nuclear alert drill in Moscow.

This was not just for show.  There is a genuine concern that someone will launch a preemptive strike

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preemptive_war

It is not uncommon for a country or leader to be talking negotiation and peace while preparing for all out war i.e. Hitler prior to the invasion of Poland which started World War II.

There is not a lot of posturing and if the North Korean endless dialog of threats is finally leading to a single irresponsible and danger attack, there will be war.

Ironically this conflict has nothing to do with Muslims or the Middle East except for huge amounts of technology coming from Iran and India.

Kim Jong-un is likely to be mentally ill. Unlike his father with a lot of talk, he may welcome a nuclear war which he cannot possibly win.

China is unlikely to sit back and watch this. Nor Russia. Once the birds have flown - the first nukes officially used in a conflict (some have been used secretly by Israel nuking a site in Palestine several years ago) things could escalate quickly.

The other options are that terrorists in place in the U.S. will get a go ahead to execute attacks in the wake of a conflict.

Most people are immune to the panic after World War 2 with bomb shelters and pending disaster worries. Too many movies and decades of no reality have made people forget what could happen.

As Russian ships head for the coast of Syria and there has been talk of sending ground troops to fight in Syria - it is disturbing the "Putting America First" has been forgotten. We are again becoming the police force of the world acting with some consent of our allies and yet in the face of what could be a war.

One can hope this is but another false alarm, but it appears to be a collision course which will involve American in far worse - a South Korean Vietnam which we cannot pull back from.

Medclinician


"not if but when" the original Medclinician
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