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https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201906141075859308-iran-urges-us-allies-stop-false-flag-ops/, https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377:
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Attacking a Japanese-owned ship tanker while Japan's PM is in Tehran talking to Ayatollah Khamenei trying to defuse US warmongering...

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...Bombing the Chinese embassy in Belgrade by NATO after Beijing forcefully protested against US bombing of Serbia.

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Meanwhile, in a civilized Eurasia environment...

CRUCIAL image - right before the start of the SCO summit in Bishkek. The bilateral went very well. Xi sounded very conciliatory - perhaps a notch above Modi. There's a serious effort by Putin and Xi to make Modi see the light re: deeper cooperation inside SCO and BRICS.

DJ-India bying Russian weapons, Iran oil (maybe not in the open) sitting down at the https://thediplomat.com/2019/06/the-shanghai-cooperation-organization-summit-kicks-off-in-bishkek/ The false flag attacks in the Gulf of Oman-just before the SCO meeting may be meant to send a (US) message to that SCO.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation: Iran has observer status in the organisation, and applied for full membership on 24 March 2008.[22] However, because it was under sanctions levied by the United Nations at the time, it was blocked from admission as a new member. The SCO stated that any country under UN sanctions could not be admitted.[23] After the UN sanctions were lifted, Chinese president Xi Jinping announced its support for Iran's full membership in SCO during a state visit to Iran in January 2016.[24]

Another note;And BBG's Javier Blas pointed out that should Iran be found responsible, it would be a strange turn of events since the Front Altair is owned by John Frederiksen, the owner of the Frontline Tanker company, who moved oil for Iran during the "tanker war" with Iraq.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-13/2-tankers-damaged-after-suspected-torpedo-attack-near-strait-hormuz-oil-soars

https://www.rt.com/news/461841-zarif-oman-tanker-iran-attack/ and
https://www.rt.com/news/461845-kokuka-owner-rejects-mine-attack/; The Japanese company that owns the ‘Kokuka Courageous’ tanker has said its crew spotted “flying objects” before the attack in the Gulf of Oman, contradicting US claims that the vessel was damaged by a naval mine.
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https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/06/14/598490/Iran-Rouhani-world-stability-trump-SCO-Summit DJ-Yesterday Gulf of Oman attacks, today Iran at SCO meeting....no coincident.

https://www.rt.com/news/461873-iran-attack-oman-blame-war/ Cui bono ? Who does have interest in the Oman attacks ?

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-14/dire-straits-oman
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/video-proof-iran-caught-red-handed-removing-mis-fired-mine-from-ship-hull-in-gulf-of-oman (DJ-The comments may be more intelligent than HT-this time.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_G20_Osaka_summit 28-29 june will see the G20 in Osaka-Japan. The SCO (a.o.) is getting much more important than the "old" G20.

http://thesaker.is/why-trump-now-wants-talks-with-iran/
Iran has the global economy "under control" by controling the Strait of Hormuz.
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From http://thesaker.is/why-trump-now-wants-talks-with-iran/:

An American source said a series of studies hit President Trump’s desk and caused panic in Washington. These showed that in the case of the Strait of Hormuz being shut down, whatever the reason, Iran has the power to hammer the world financial system, by causing global trade in derivatives to be blown apart.

The Bank for International Settlements said last year that the “notional amount outstanding for derivatives contracts” was $542 trillion, although the gross market value was put at just $12.7 trillion. Others suggest it is $1.2 quadrillion or more.

Tehran has not voiced this “nuclear option” openly. And yet General Qasem Soleimani, head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps’ Quds Force and a Pentagon bête noire, evoked it in internal Iranian discussions. The information was duly circulated to France, Britain and Germany, the EU-3 members of the Iran nuclear deal (or Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action), also causing a panic.

Oil derivative specialists know well that if the flow of energy in the Gulf is blocked it could lead to the price of oil reaching $200 a barrel, or much higher over an extended period. Crashing the derivatives market would create an unprecedented global depression. Trump’s former Goldman Sachs Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin should know as much.

And Trump himself seems to have given the game away. He’s now on the record essentially saying that Iran has no strategic value to the US. According to the American source: “He really wants a face-saving way to get out of the problem his advisers Bolton and Pompeo got him into. Washington now needs a face-saving way out. Iran is not asking for meetings. The US is.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-14/putin-xi-take-swipe-trump-during-russia-meeting-boast-about-new-era-cooperation, https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/06/14/598536/Iran-Russia-putin-Rouhani-energy-investment-sanctions

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/iran-navy-surrounding-bombed-oil-ship-refusing-to-allow-it-to-be-moved-or-inspected (DJ The ships are close to Iran-waters, maybe accept an Iran-role in dealing with it. Who is the US to claim those ships ?)
Israeli claims on Iran weapons https://www.debka.com/__trashed-4/

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-13/false-flag-intro-world-war-3-tanker-attacks:
Most wars in the past 100 years have been started with a ‘spark’ which might be assassination, attacking of a ship, or bombing of Pearl Harbor.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-14/army-major-ret-why-americas-no-fault-generals-wont-save-us-next-war

DJ-Just like the US-Saudi-Israel coalition can escalate "pressure on Iran" "for a new nuclear deal" Iran (with Russia, China) can "escalate pressure" on the US (and EU),

Long term energy deals-as far as I (DJ) know can go with fixed prices not in US$. Russia can sign a contract with China to deliver a given amount of oil/gas at a certain price for a certain period. Iran can do the same with India, China, Turkey. Blocking the Hermuz strait would then do most damage to those not under long term energy contracts.

Another major factor for now is what will Pakistan, India, Turkey (etc) do ? Move even closer to Russia-Iran-China ? (Like Turkey working with Iran against the Kurds in Iraq, working with Russia on a new S500. DJ-Turkey still in NATO is getting a problem. What when Turkey wants NATO art5 help against Kurds or Israel for the Cyprus gas/oil fields-conflict.)

Afghanistan, Iraq, (just like Iran, Syria, Turkey) could join the SCO or another Russia/China project. The US would get in a very "hard" position keeping forces there. The EU (without the UK with boris johnson as a new problem) needs Russian/Iran energy and China market.

The conflict is not over Iran but over who is in charge of the globe, the US needs another way of dealing with this conflict. Or lose it.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/06/iran-decided-to-put-maximum-pressure-on-trump-here-is-how-it-will-do-it.html (DJ-Again-I do not think Iran was behind the recent attacks for two reasons:
1. They need their own oil to be able to get exported, that is difficult enough. Irans economy is in very bad shape. 2. Iran needs allies. Iraq, Qatar also need free trade routes-but also when India, China wants to buy oil it is not very wise to damage transport routes.

KSA, Israel may be feeling backed by the US/CIA to do thes false flag attacks-their economy may have room for it. Another possible "force" could be Yemen-Houthi's or Kurds (blaming KSA/UAE for supporting IS).

Iran may have been behind some terrorist attacks (like killing people behind terrorist attacks in Iran getting asylum in the EU), may have the means-can be interested in pushing up oil prices-but blocking oil export is a last means.)
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-16/did-b-team-overplay-its-hand-iran, https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-17/irans-uk-ambassador-unfortunately-we-are-heading-towards-confrontation-us
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/06/iran-to-exceed-some-nuclear-deal-limits-eu-under-pressure-to-fulfill-its-commitments.html

DJ-The basic conflict is on "who runs the planet" the US/west or Russia-China.

For the US it is a major problem that 5 billion of the 7,2 billion people live in EurAsia. More and more trade and transport is over land (from railways to pipelines). The US has a major strenght at sea and in the air-but for the (trade)wars that is not very helpfull.

Meanwhile both Israel and Saudi Arabia/Gulf States have a "double signal". They want the US to move towards (almost) conflict with Iran (and with that China, India). On the other hand both are doing major deals with Russia and China.

DJ-I think the US (and UK under boris johnson) may think twice before getting into major conflict. History tells that moving into such a conflict is an effective way of losing an empire. (The UK lost India, the Dutch Indonesia, France, Belgium their colonies after W.W.2).

As a bussinessman trump should know that talks-not wars-are the way to deal with conflicts.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-18/declassified-sino-russian-masterplan-end-us-dominance-middle-east

DJ-Good, long, read. Qatar having talks both with Iran and KSA/UAE. Iran and Turkey further cooperating. A.o. against the Kurds for now in the Iran/Turkey border area and north Iraq. (DJ-no doubt Syria will be next-even with the US trying to control (with IS) the Kurds.

Russia and China, Turkey going for oil deals with Iran outside the US$. Sometimes Iran-oil will be "Iraqi" for international trade reasons.

DJ-Iran does not want Russian, Chinese, or any other (major) foreign presence in Iran. Most likely advisors, trainers and security for Gazprom, China, India oil facilities are welcome.

China and Russia will not accept any plan for regime change in Iran. But also want to keep Iran under control in Syria (and Iraq). DJ-Iran, Pakistan may become the major players in Afghanistan.

The US is losing ground in the Middle East high speed !
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DJ-A US strike on Iran would end Trump's dream of a second presidential term and put the (western) world in the biggest crisis since 1945. Most likely it would be the end of NATO (with Turkey being on the Iran-side).

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/06/white-house-pushes-trump-pulled-back-story-he-likely-never-approved-to-strike-iran.html

DJ-Shooting down a US UAV-wether over Iran or international-close to Iran-waters-is sending a clear Iran message. The US is crossing Iran red lines, further US actions of the same sort will get the same response. (https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/06/iran-shoots-down-strategic-us-drone-is-ready-for-war-puts-maximum-pressure-on-trump-.html The strait is that narrow that or the UAV was in Oman or Iran airspace-there may not have been "international airspace" left.)

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/iran-if-we-cannot-sell-our-oil-no-one-else-can-philadelphia-refinery-explodes DJ-If these incidents have anything to do with Iran the US (already) has a very major problem wich only will get much worse in case of war.

https://www.rt.com/news/462414-world-woke-up-wwiii-galloway/

https://theduran.com/what-real-options-does-the-united-states-have-versus-iran/
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https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/06/trump-is-afraid-of-a-shooting-war-but-iran-has-also-other-means-to-damage-him.html DJ-The strait of Hormuz is a main oil-transport route. Making oil production and transportation harder will effect the global market. Still the US-Iran's main enemy-will only be effected limited since the US-for now-is the largest oil/gas producer in the world. Pushing up energy prices will make energy production in the US make profits.

From that point of view LOW energyprices will damage the US, KSA more than high prices will. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-21/conflict-iran-quickly-spirals-out-control-oil-gold-surge-higher (DJ-Maybe the goal of this "conflict" is pushing up fossil fuel prices-war may be unwanted by both US, KSA and Iran, Russia-all would profit from higher energy prices. Would also fit in with climate plans-so producers of solar panels EU, China etc. may accept the strategy ?)

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-22/trump-ordered-secret-cyber-attacks-iran-alternative-war-thursday-night, https://www.debka.com/a-new-us-iran-hot-line-more-a-channel-for-miscommunication-than-dialogue/-andhttps://www.debka.com/mivzak/bolton-arrives-in-israel-for-talks-with-netanyahu-on-iran-tensions/

DJ-Who is in control in the White House. What are the US goals ? When the US wants to be "the only superpower" is moving towards conflict with "the rest of the world" a possible route to that goal ? (And is it realistic ?)
Of course Iran is good at cyber-warfare as well.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-22/chinas-aircraft-carrier-battle-group-emerges
DJ-For me one of the main questions is how relations between Russia, China, India and Iran will develop. Does Iran wants to move closer to EurAsia-integration ? Does Iran want to be a main country in a Islamic group of countries (with Iraq, Turkey, Pakistan, Indonesia, North Africa) ?
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An incomplete list of false flags-excuses to "go to war". https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-21/read-cheering-next-war see also https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-11378601 MI6-history.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/who-convinced-trump-to-not-bomb-iran/

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/new-satellite-image-shows-china-beefing-up-military-presence-in-south-china-sea/

DJ-In history divide and rule is the basic motor. For the US to stay the "main superpower" a scenario in wich China ends up in war with Taiwan, Japan and Iran ends up in war with Saudi Arabia/Gulf States-the US stays out of any (further) war could be welcome.

A world with several "blocs" Russia-China, Islamic, and "neutral" (India) would leave room for a leading role for the US. The US starting a war with Iran would push Iran towards Russia and China. The last thing the US should want.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-26/trump-explains-what-iran-war-would-look-under-his-watch, https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201906261076057136-trump-blasts-iranian-authorities-as-not-smart-says-war-with-tehran-would-not-last-long/, https://www.debka.com/with-tehran-set-to-upgrade-uranium-enrichment-the-uss-boxer-strike-force-with-marines-reaches-iranian-shore/

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/06/western-news-agencies-mistranslate-irans-president-speech-it-is-not-the-first-time-such-error-happen.html

https://www.debka.com/moscow-pointedly-allows-east-jerusalem-venue-for-us-russian-israeli-mid-east-security-meeting/

DJ-Both Israel and Saudi Arabia know they will have "a lot of damage" in case of a (US) war with Iran. They both may want "maximum US pressure on Iran" but not war (at least most of the Israel/KSA "elite".)

For the US "elite" another war "would deal with Trump" may be the idea for some of them. Although they rather see a "local conflict" between Iran and "some Gulf states"-without much (open) involvement (like the Yemen genocide) of the US (and UK under boris j.?)

Another "incident" will be a matter of time. Most likely it will be a false flag-but by who ?
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DJ-Good summary https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-26/trump-war-president-or-anti-interventionist:

Visualizing 150 Iranian dead from a missile strike that he had ordered, President Donald Trump recoiled and canceled the strike, a brave decision and defining moment for his presidency.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, John Bolton and Vice President Mike Pence had signed off on the strike on Iran as the right response to Tehran’s shootdown of a U.S. Global Hawk spy plane over the Gulf of Oman.

The U.S. claims the drone was over international waters. Tehran says it was in Iranian territory. But while the loss of a $100 million drone is no small matter, no American pilot was lost, and retaliating by killing 150 Iranians would appear to be a disproportionate response.

Good for Trump. Yet, all weekend, he was berated for chickening out and imitating President Barack Obama. U.S. credibility, it was said, has taken a big hit and must be restored with military action.

By canceling the strike, the president also sent a message to Iran: We’re ready to negotiate. Yet, given the irreconcilable character of our clashing demands, it is hard to see how the U.S. and Iran get off this road we are on, at the end of which a military collision seems almost certain.

Consider the respective demands.

Monday, the president tweeted:

“The U.S. request for Iran is very simple — No Nuclear Weapons and No Further Sponsoring of Terror!”

But Iran has no nuclear weapons, has never had nuclear weapons, and has never even produced bomb-grade uranium.

According to our own intelligence agencies in 2007 and 2011, Tehran did not even have a nuclear weapons program.

Under the 2015 nuclear deal, the JCPOA, the only way Iran could have a nuclear weapons program would be in secret, outside its known nuclear facilities, all of which are under constant U.N. inspection.

Where is the evidence that any such secret program exists?

And if it does, why does America not tell the world where Iran’s secret nuclear facilities are located and demand immediate inspections?

“No further sponsoring of terror,” Trump says.

But what does that mean?

As the major Shiite power in a Middle East divided between Sunni and Shiite, Iran backs the Houthi rebels in Yemen’s civil war, Shiite Hezbollah in Lebanon, Alawite Bashar Assad in Syria, and the Shiite militias in Iraq who helped us stop ISIS’s drive to Baghdad.

In his 12 demands, Pompeo virtually insisted that Iran abandon these allies and capitulate to their Sunni adversaries and rivals.

Not going to happen. Yet, if these demands are nonnegotiable, to be backed up by sanctions severe enough to choke Iran’s economy to death, we will be headed for war.

No more than North Korea is Iran going to yield to U.S. demands that it abandon what Iran sees as vital national interests.

As for the U.S. charge that Iran is “destabilizing” the Middle East, it was not Iran that invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, overthrew the Gadhafi regime in Libya, armed rebels to overthrow Assad in Syria, or aided and abetted the Saudis’ intervention in Yemen’s civil war.

Iran, pushed to the wall, its economy shrinking as inflation and unemployment are rising, is approaching the limits of its tolerance.

And as Iran suffers pain, it is saying, other nations in the Gulf will endure similar pain, as will the USA. At some point, collisions will produce casualties and we will be on the up escalator to war.

Yet, what vital interest of ours does Iran today threaten?

Trump, with his order to stand down on the missile strike on Iran, signaled that he wanted a pause in the confrontation.

Still, it needs to be said: The president himself authorized the steps that have brought us to this peril point.

Trump pulled out of and trashed Obama’s nuclear deal. He imposed the sanctions that are now inflicting something close to unacceptable if not intolerable pain on Iran. He had the Islamic Revolutionary Guard declared a terrorist organization. He sent the Abraham Lincoln carrier task force and B-52s to the Gulf region.

If war is to be avoided, either Iran is going to have to capitulate, or the U.S. is going to have to walk back its maximalist position.

And who would Trump name to negotiate with Tehran for the United States?

The longer the sanctions remain in place and the deeper they bite, the greater the likelihood Iran will respond to our economic warfare with its own asymmetric warfare. Has the president decided to take that risk?

We appear to be at a turning point in the Trump presidency.

Does he want to run in 2020 as the president who led us into war with Iran, or as the anti-interventionist president who began to bring U.S. troops home from that region that has produced so many wars?

Perhaps Congress, the branch of government designated by the Constitution to decide on war, should instruct President Trump as to the conditions under which he is authorized to take us to war with Iran.

DJ-Iran has no nuclear program and is not a sponsor of terrorism (Saudi Arabia has both). Demanding from Iran to stop doing things it is not doing or face all out economic destruction (as far as the US can create so) is insane.

It pushes "the world" to deal outside the grasp of the US and in that way is damaging the US-on the long term-even more than Iran.
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DJ It looks like there is an effort to save the Iran deal.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-28/trump-unleash-hell-europe-after-eu-says-spv-circumvent-swift-and-iran-sanctions-now Hal Turner has the same story https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/europe-activates-instex-to-trade-with-iran-us-threatens-sanctions-europe-threatens-to-pull-all-funds-from-u-s-banks
"LATE BREAKING UPDATE 6:26 PM EDT -- Europe has told the US Treasury that if the United States begins sanctioning any European country or company over Iran trade, European entities will WITHDRAW their funds from US Banks and Financial Markets, sending certain banks into collapse immediately.   "

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/06/29/599707/JCPOA-heavy-water-enriched-uranium:Russia says the signatories to the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran are seeking to introduce measures that will enable Tehran to resume exports of low enriched uranium and heavy water despite US sanctions.

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/06/28/599663/Iran-nuclear-deal-Instex-Vienna-diplomats-Abbas-Araqchi:
However, the Iranian official added that this was still insufficient because European countries were not buying Iranian oil.

"For INSTEX to be useful for Iran, Europeans need to buy oil or consider credit lines for this mechanism otherwise INSTEX is not like they or us expect," he said.

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/06/29/599712/Russian-President-Vladimir-Putin-relations-US-G20-summit:
Russian President Vladimir Putin says his country seeks improved relations with the United States but has warned that Moscow will take countermeasures if Washington imposes more sanctions.

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/06/29/599703/India-S400-Russia-euro-US-sanctions:India will reportedly be using euro as the payment currency for S-400 missile defense systems and other weapons it has purchased from Russia, in an attempt to avoid threat of US sanctions over military transactions with Moscow.

DJ-The reason why the US wants a conflict https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-28/pentagon-still-war-footing-dozen-us-f-22-stealth-jets-arrive-qatar-counter-iran with Iran is quite clear; http://thesaker.is/russia-india-china-will-be-the-big-g20-hit/ Russia-India-China see Iran as a major part of the New Silk Road. A war with Iran is the US idea of stopping EurAsian integration.

A sign of hope in my (DJ) opinion; https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-28/memo-trump-trade-bolton-tulsi:“For too long our leaders have failed us, taking us into one regime change war after the next, leading us into a new Cold War and arms race, costing us trillions of our hard-earned tax payer dollars and countless lives. This insanity must end.”

Donald Trump, circa 2016?

Nope. That denunciation of John Bolton interventionism came from Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii during Wednesday night’s Democratic debate. At 38, she was the youngest candidate on stage.

DJ-Also in Israel a former head of Mossad was asking questions on the wisdom of supporting IS against Assad in Syria. Israel had some sort of coexistence with Syria-supporting IS brought Iran to Israels border.

DJ-Words not swords should rule the world. When the EU is-finally-making clear they want better relations with Iran, Russia, China-even when the US does not, maybe peace has a chance.
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DJ-Welcome in the second halve of 2019 ! Starting with major Israeli airstrikes-just after the G20 in Japan-on Syria. https://www.debka.com/damascus-israeli-air-naval-forces-hit-10-syrian-iranian-hizballah-targets/. Timing may have been wrong. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-30/major-israeli-airstrikes-syria-just-s-300-missiles-were-reported-operational

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-news-military-aircraft-shot-down-over-cyprus-possibly-israeli-after-bombing-syria DJ-If indeed a (older) S300 can bring down a JSF-F35 this is major damage for US weapons sale. (But story may stay unconfirmed-since the F35 was supposed to be the "best of the best").

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-news-libyan-national-army-declares-war-on-turkey and https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-30/russian-military-intervenes-after-deadly-clashes-between-syrian-turkish-armies, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russian-military-prevented-deadly-confrontation-between-syrian-turkish-forces-in-nw-hama/
DJ-Turkey overstretching its role ?

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russia-ready-to-deliver-s-400-system-to-iran-report/ DJ-Iran already has S300-wich may be effective against F35 (and F22 ????). If this is the case both US, KSA and Israel may find themselves "limited" in effective weapons.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-30/zuesse-civil-war-now-america ;Concerning foreign policies, and domestic policies, Republican Party billionaires hate especially Iran, and especially all progressivism.

By contrast, concerning foreign policies, and domestic policies, Democratic Party billionaires hate especially Russia, and accept some progressivism. (DJ-The US is run by 385 billionaires-not a democracy.)

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-30/tucker-carlson-trumps-side-korea-where-was-bolton, https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-30/2020-democrats-slam-trumps-north-korea-visit
DJ-It is a nice gesture-but when there is no agenda behind it it is an empty act, a show.
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https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-news-military-aircraft-shot-down-over-cyprus-possibly-israeli-after-bombing-syria:
OFFICIAL STATEMENT --

According to the government of Cyprus, the wreckage pictured above is that of a Syrian S-200 Missile which was fired at Israeli warplanes while those planes were attacking Syria. The photos, however, do not seem to match the appearance of what would have been an S-200.   This, however, is the "official story."
(DJ-If a F35-JSF was shot down that would be a story the US/NATO wants to cover up. The F35 is the backbone of US, a lot of Nato countries, the US wants to sell that "thing". When a S300 (or even a more widespread S200) can bring this plane down it would be a major disaster for western "defense".)

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-01/where-does-trump-go-here-iran DJ-The US "strategy" on Iran has been damaging the US more than Iran. Now even India is getting "close" with Russia and China. The EU has to make a choice between the US and "the rest of the globe".

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/07/no-iran-does-not-break-the-nuclear-deal.html

DJ-Iran only can use it most damaging "weapon" once-effecting the global financial market from the US to India, Russia, China. Most countries want to do "everything" they can to avoid such a situation.

Europe blames the US for the refugee-crisis (due to wars in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Libya etc.), sanctions on Russia (due to "F..k the EU" on Ukraine by Obama/Nuland). We are dealing with a "once in a 1000 years heatwave" while the US is trying to get other countries out of the Paris-climate-deal.

The US is standing alone (again Saudi Arabia and Israel are doing deals with Russia and China the US does not want other countries to do.)

On Syria there is not agreement between Turkey and Syria, in Yemen the UAE is moving away from Saudi Arabia. South- and Central America is not happy with US (tarif)walls.

It would be wise when the US moves into "damage control" and use diplomacy to keep at least some of the energy market linked to the US$. The present Trump policy would fit in a pro-Russia/China agenda-since more and more international trade is done in Euro's, yuans, rubels etc. or goods.
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DJ-Do not know what to think of this; https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-news-vice-president-ordered-to-immediately-return-to-white-house-for-unspecified-emergency

(DJ-Speculation on sinking subs, unexplained "earthquakes" in Iran ???
If there would have been an Israeli nuclear attack on Iran (causing these quakes https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us700048gw/executive second one "false"?) there would have been an Iranian reaction.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/israel-braces-for-military-escalation-with-iran-fm/, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/israel-warns-iran-will-be-hit-hard-in-war/

https://www.debka.com/will-israel-expand-its-strikes-on-iranian-targets-from-syria-to-iraq/, https://www.debka.com/mivzak/urgent-consultations-in-washington-moscow-on-reported-us-russian-submarines-in-firefight/:

Urgent consultations in Washington, Moscow on reported US-Russian submarines in firefight
Jul 2, 2019 @ 22:24 Diane Shalem
First reports reaching DEBKAfile’s military sources say that a US submarine intercepted a Russian nuclear sub in American waters opposite Alaska. The Russian sub escorting the nuclear submarine responded with a Balkan 2000 torpedo and scuttled the US vessel. Urgent consultations in both the White House and the Kremlin were taking place on Tuesday night. US Vice President Mike Pence called off an appearance in New Hampshire after being recalled to Washington for a conference called by President Donald Trump without explanation.

Russian President Vladimir Putin cancelled an engagement and headed for the Kremlin to confer with Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and military chiefs, after learning that 14 submariners died in a fire that broke out on a nuclear-powered “experimental submarine in Russian waters.” This account carried in Russian media varies in most respects from the first reports reaching this site and may refer to a separate incident. They report between 14 and 17 members of an AS-12 nuclear powered submarine died of poisonous fumes caused by a fire aboard the vessel. The submarine was described as experimental and unarmed but often used in spy missions. It is unclear how many of the 25 crew survived. Local media suggest four or five are receiving treatment in Severomorsk’s military hospital for poisoning and concussion injuries. Another news account said the majority of the officers died in or on their way to hospital. These reports do not cite the cause of the fire.

From RT:

https://www.rt.com/russia/463228-7-captains-2-heroes-killed-fire/:
On Monday, a Russian Navy’s deep sea research vessel caught fire during a planned operation aimed at exploring the seabed in the Russian territorial waters.

The Russian Investigative Committee launched an investigation into the incident. The Russian Navy also initiated its own probe led by the Navy head, Nikolay Evmenov. The cause of the fire remains unknown so far.

Meanwhile, the director of the Norwegian Radiation and Nuclear Safety Authority, Per Strand, told Reuters citing unnamed Russian officials that the fire on board of the Russian vessel was allegedly caused by a gas explosion. He added that his agency did not detect any abnormal levels of radiation following the incident.

The Russian Defense Ministry promptly dismissed the report by Reuters as it said that it did not inform any Norwegian officials about the incident.

DJ-It looks like at least one serious incident took place. Most likely between US and Russian subs.

Israel may plan to attack Iran targets in Iraq. With the excuse of "Iran working on a nuclear weapon". Yesterday Hal Turner claimed "possibly an F35 was shot down, crashed in North-Turkish held-Cyprus. The official story is that it was an S200 air-defense missile.

When F35's can be shot down with S200/S300 missiles "the west" has basicly no "air superiority" left in the Middle East. This could trigger a lower treshold for the use of nuclear weapons.

https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13371&sid=429258c84fcbc237123ceb44a6823f27

DJ-I hope the quake in Iran was natural. It was an accident that did damage to a Russian sub. The crash in Cyprus was NOT a F35. In any other scenario the world is moving into a minefield.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-02/does-iran-already-have-nuclear-weapons (DJ-If Israel believed Iran had nuclear weapons there would be war.)
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-02/israel-warns-iran-will-be-hit-hard-war-china-slams-us-root-cause-tensions

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/report-american-submarine-torpedoed-and-sunk-off-alaska-coast

DJ-The picture I am getting is 1-Israel will take more action against Iran. Both in Syria, Iraq and most likely (by special operations, cyber attack etc) Iran. Israel does expect the US and Gulf States to give support. https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/07/no-iran-is-not-rushing-to-build-a-nuclear-weapon.html

2-There may have been an incident between US and Russian subs in the Alaska/Russia border zone. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_Strait=82km/51 miles wide narrowist point) https://thebulletin.org/2019/06/hooray-the-arctic-is-melting-say-what/?utm_source=Newsletter%20070119&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=ArcticSayWHAT_06252019 (A cold-cold war for the Arctic ?)

DJ-The US is fighting to keep "the only superpower" position against Russia and China. Iran is strategic for North-South links-Russia, East West "Silk Road" China. India does see Iran as a link to the EarAsian market.

Russia and China will NOT allow any (major) US/proxy attack on Iran.

https://sputniknews.com/military/201904101074002322-japanese-f35-russia-capture-danger/ DJ A (brand new) Japanese F35 crashed in april. If an Israeli F35 crashed at Cyprus-even without being hit-the "bad news" could be a productionproblem with the F35 ?)

https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377 DJ-It is-for now-unclear for the public what happened, is happening. Problem with that is things move at hyperspeed. One moment "life is normal", next moment may see no internet, electricity-within hours total collapse and chaos-even without nearby military action and around the globe.

Putting out satellites, cyberwarfare, attacks on the electricity, basic infrastructure can "destroy us all". Hope we do not end up in that kind of scenario's-we are way to close to them.
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DJ-Not much "new news" on the "subs-incident" near Alaska. https://www.debka.com/the-mystery-of-the-ultra-secret-russian-losharik-submarine-disaster/

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/07/on-eve-of-4th-of-july-parade-us-attempts-to-lure-iran-into-shooting-down-another-us-plane.html,
https://ejmagnier.com/2019/07/02/trump-imagines-a-quick-us-war-with-no-plan-b-but-overlooks-irans-possible-plan-b/
DJ-There seems to be a constant push for war with Iran. But so far no one is willing to start such a war out of fear for the consequences. (DJ-Again both Russia and China will not accept military action against Iran-see it as an attack on their region, EurAsia-integration plans.)

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-03/trump-says-us-should-join-great-currency-manipulation-game-devaluing-dollar
DJ-Due to US sanctions against over half the world the market for the US dollar is shrinking. Maybe Trump should stop his sanctions ?

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-03/united-states-net-oil-exporter-dirty-little-secret

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-03/iranium-confusion-part-2-what-we-know-what-we-know-we-dont-know-and-what-we-wish-we

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-03/technocrats-and-neocons-respond-polar-silk-road

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-03/us-versus-china-tariff-war-economic-war

DJ-The risk for "war by accident" is unacceptable high. From the Arctic to the South China Sea, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Libya one "small incident" could escalate out of control. The US is "defending" the only-superpower-status in a military way-and getting to much overstretched while Russia, Iran, China win via diplomacy (and due to US "sanctions on the world").
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Good article:https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/07/article/the-un-submersible-us-iran-stalemate/:
Submersible incident
The submersible incident – complete with the speculative plot line of a US-Russia firefight in the Arctic – did drown, at least for a while, the prime, current geopolitical incandescence: the US economic war on Iran.

Expanding on serious discussions at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization summit in Bishkek – which included Iran’s President Rouhani – and the Putin-Xi meetings in Moscow and St. Petersburg and at the G20 in Osaka, both Russia and China are fully invested in keeping Iran stable and protected from the Trump administration’s strategy of chaos.

Both Moscow and Beijing are fully aware Washington’s divide-and-rule tactics are geared towards stopping the momentum of Eurasia integration – which includes everything from bilateral trade in local currencies and bypassing the US dollar to further interconnection of the New Silk Roads, or Belt and Road Initiative, the Eurasia Economic Union (EAEU) and the International North-South Transportation Corridor (INSTC).

Beijing plays a shadow game, keeping very quiet on the de facto US economic blockade against one of its key Belt and Road allies. Yet the fact is China continues to buy Iranian crude, and bilateral trade is being settled in yuan and rial.

The Instrument in Support of Trade Exchanges (INSTEX), the mechanism set up by the EU-3 (France, UK and Germany) to bypass the US dollar for trade between Iran and the EU after the US unilaterally abandoned the nuclear deal, or JCPOA, may finally be in place. But there’s no evidence INSTEX will be adopted by myriad European companies, as it essentially covers Iranian purchases of food and medicine.

Plan B would be for the Russian Central Bank to extend access to Iran as one the nations possibly adopting SPFS (System for Transfer of Financial Messages), the Russian mechanism for trade sanctioned by the US that bypasses SWIFT. Moscow has been working on the SPFS since 2104, when the threat to expel Russia from SWIFT became a distinct possibility.

As for Iran being accused – by the US – of “breaching” the JCPOA, that’s absolute nonsense. To start with, Tehran cannot possibly “breach” a multinational deal that was declared null and void by one of the signatories, the US.

In fact the alleged “breach” is due to the fact the EU-3 were not buying Iran’s low-enriched uranium, as promised, because of the US embargo. Washington has de facto forced the EU-3 not to buy it. Tehran duly notified all JCPOA parties that, as they are not buying it, Iran will have to store more low enriched uranium than the JCPOA allows for. If the EU-3 resumes buying it that automatically means Iran is not “breaching” anything.

https://sputniknews.com/world/201907041076147018-iran-summons-uks-ambassador-in-tehran-over-illegal-seizure-of-iranian-oil-tanker---reports/

https://sputniknews.com/military/201907041076148671-turkey-erdogan-s400-deliveries/

https://sputniknews.com/world/201907041076149548-putin-on-chances-of-improved-russia-eu-ties-its-possible-but-not-everything-depends-on-russia/

https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2019/4-july-putin-says-worried-that-militants-are-flowing-into (Libya from Idlib NW Syria)
https://twitter.com/aawsat_eng/status/1146847673779130368

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/07/04/600101/Iran-China-India-oil-sanctions-US-crude-imports

DJ-The US plan to break Iran by economic sanctions is not working. China, Russia, India (a.o.) do not want unrest in Iran. The only other remaining (US) option against Iran might be the military (since the US do not want serious talks with Iran).

We may get nearer to thise point-sadly.

https://russia.liveuamap.com/ DJ-The fire on the Russian sub was north of Murmansk-not far from Norway. (The story of a US sub involved is not further backed by facts.)
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From https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377:
SHADOWPLAY UPDATE

One of my top intel sources wrote me that around a month ago he was told by Iranian intel that they were not being helped by ANYONE.

This only confirms what I have been stressing in my writings; the game-changer was that fateful Putin-Xi-Modi-Rouhani meeting in Bishkek, and what Putin and Xi have been discussing afterwards.

My source also told me he was talking to the Chinese today; "I am advising all sides" - meaning Russia, China and Iran.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-05/escobar-un-submersible-us-iran-stalemate

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-04/syria-and-iran-defy-sanctions-building-railway-tehran-mediterranean

DJ-Again-Iran is part of a much bigger plan. Ear-Asian integration, trade outside US$ control, major weapondeals-all without any role for (at least) the US.

https://www.debka.com/__trashed-6-copy/High alert in US, British Navies after UK marines seize Iranian oil tanker.
https://www.debka.com/mivzak/un-nuclear-watchdog-meeting-on-iran-called-by-us-russia-mocks/
(DJ-The US/Israel goal is to make Iran oil export to the EU-by ship impossible. The US and Israel would like to claim Iran is breaking the Iran-deal so the EU would have to move towards the US/Israel side-get out of the Iran-deal. In fact if Iran is still acting in the Iran-deal or not is beside the point. The US left the Iran-deal, put sanctions and made the Iran-deal impossible. The EU has to make up its mind on how to do "international trade" -with both Iran, Russia, China AND the US/UK (under boris-sociopath-johnson). The US effort of "forcing" the EU to stick on sanctions against Iran, Russia, China is "eroding". The EU may find a way-via a.o. Turkey-to do indirect bussiness. When the US is putting to much sanctions on the EU-in a new round of trade wars-most likely the EU may move away from the US even further.)https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-july-5-2019-british-marines-seized-iranian-oil-tanker/

DJ-The more time passes-the more Iran becomes integrated into Ear-Asia defense plans. The less likely any (US, Israeli a.o.) attack can make much difference.

Iran oil-trade-partly-will go "underground" and reach the international oil market as Iraq, Russian, Syrian oil. When Russia, India, China, Turkey, Iraq, Pakistan, Syria all do all kind of deals with Iran US sanctions-in the long run-damage the US.

(DJ-The EU bocot of Russia with fruits meant Russia started growing those fruits themselves, imported them from (a.o.) Turkey (and now most likely also Iran can export to Russia, China). The fruit-export of the EU was damaged-"we" lost a major market-export from EU to China grew not enough to compensate for losing the Russian market.

India is a major medical supplier-"goods for oil" may see Iran exchanging oil for India medical goods.

Turkey and Russia working on the (new) S500, possibly Russian S400 to Iran is a nightmare for the west. When Turkey, Qatar close US bases in their country the US has to fall back on Saudi, Israel bases. )
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