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http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/05/a-dive-into-washingtons-swamp-.html# The US is getting paid by Saudi Arabia (UAE, Israel ?) to start a war with Iran. 

http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/2570-u-s-congress-debates-war-with-iran and http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2569.htm (Israel claiming North Korea providing Iran and Syria with "weapons of mass destruction" (Iraq-2003 part 2)"whatdoesitmean" or Hal Turner may not always be the best sources.)

https://southfront.org/iranian-forces-will-not-participate-in-any-operation-in-daraa-iranian-official/ and https://southfront.org/in-maps-possible-objectives-of-first-phase-of-expected-syrian-army-advance-in-daraa-province/ Syria and Russia try to make a deal with "rebels" in SW Syria while preparing military action. (DJ-Israel did support both al quaida-linked and IS "rebels" https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201805221064685813-syria-militants-arms-depots-video/ so did NATO) https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201805231064736468-israel-warns-syria-not-to-attack-planes/ Israel is preparing further airstrikes (DJ-All the rebels have to do is shoot at Israel-after that Israel claims Damascus is responsible for everything coming from Syria-even when the rebels use amo provided by Israel..)

In NW Syria Russia-Iran-Turkey agreed on handing over a main road connecting Turkey to Damascus to the pro-Assad government. Eventhough Erdogan is still against Assad-he wants Syria to stay united to avoid a Kurdish state. (Still Erdogan might "stay" for a longer period in some border area's in Iraq and Syria to fight with the Kurds. There are stories that in Afrin/NW Syria Turkey wants to move the more than 2 million Syrian refugees presently in Turkey).


http://theduran.com/mike-pompeo-hurls-assassination-charges-iran/ Turkey has NW Syria under control by agreement with Russia, Iran, Syria. Israel will loose influence/control in SW Syria. The last operation to restore Syria will be against the US backed groups in East Syria (most Kurfdish). I would not be surprised when Turkey-still a NATO ally- would play a major role in that operation (maybe in coordination with Iraq ?). 
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-23/emerging-china-iran-pakistan-alliance-directed-decidedly-against-united-states and http://theduran.com/india-threatens-retaliatory-countermeasures-to-us-metals-tariffs/, https://sputniknews.com/europe/201805241064748173-merkel-germany-eu-iran-deal/

DJ-I do not know how the US-trump-thinks the US can remain a global power when that US is starting conflicts with allies. 

-On Iran, both India, China and the EU see it as an East-West trading post. India wants to invest in Iran to avoid having to make deals with Pakistan. Both India and China want to get more control on Afghanistan. (The only way to get peace there is to kick out the US (and NATO)-most likely China-Pakistan-Iran and Russia are working on plans for doing so. The US is transporting IS-fighters from Syria and Libya to use them against Russia and China, Iran, Pakistan.) https://www.debka.com/if-iran-resumes-enrichment-the-us-and-israel-poised-to-attack-its-facilities/ (DJ-Since there is not much international support for a war with Iran US-Saudi-Israel (USI) may start their "private war"-any USI-military action against Iran could speed up processes further damaging the US. (Russia-China could cooperate to "push" the US navy out of area's close to Iran/Syria.)

-Turkey https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201805241064729630-turkey-iran-venezuela/ and http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/05/turkeys-lira-troubles-threaten-erdogans-rise-to-full-power.html# Both Turkey and Venezuela blame the US for "destabilizing" their currencies. Both countries do have economic problems-for wich they should blame themselves more than others-and may see increased influence of Russia, China. The price for it for Turkey may be in a confrontation with US/French troops in NE Syria-after the june 24 elections. https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/developing-potential-syrian-govt-convoy-travels-to-turkish-capital/ Russia (and Iran) would welcome better Turkish-Syrian relations. (Most likely with Russian aid Turkey and Syria did find a basis for further talks. A break-through could help Erdogan in his election campain.)

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Syria


DJ-Russia will support this offensive against alquaida/IS "rebels". 


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DJ-The total lack of respect the US is showing to the rest of the world is even http://theduran.com/putin-and-abe-agree-to-move-forward-on-economic-cooperation/ pushing Japan towards Russia. Korea can have peace when the Koreans kick out the US. So far "things went the polite way"-but when that does not work "things go the less polite way". 

Most likely Russia-Iran-China will try to avoid an open confrontation but stopping US ships in what China sees as their sea, stopping US military being in countries were they are not invited-can be done in many (friendly) ways. 

A US/Israel attack on Iran, Korea (or where-ever the USI's want to start a next war) may cause "an unexpected strong reaction". http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/05/syria-us-moves-to-protect-al-qaeda-and-isis-in-daraa.html# The world has had enough of this kind of insanity !

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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-27/blowing-iran-deal-brings-eurasia-closer-integration DJ-A lack of (understanding the need for) a coherent US foreign policy is the end of the US as a global player.


https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/erdogans-political-rivals-call-for-warmer-ties-with-assad/ DJ-Both Israel and Saudi Arabia are beginning to accept Assad (and Russia, Iran) did win the Syria war. Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Russia, China, Pakistan are the new players in the Middle East. "Damage-control" is the best policy for the moment. (DJ-The US is limited in what it can do in the Middle East). 



Korea

https://southfront.org/peace-negotiator-mike-pompeo-there-is-a-cia-plot-to-assassinate-kim-jong-un/ DJ-The US does not respect any other country-follow the US or face regime-change/sanctions. With tradewars against the EU, Japan, South Korea the US is damaging itself.
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Syria

Most likely there are talks between the US, Russia, Jordan and Israel on how to deal with SW Syria. When (pro) Iran forces would stay away a certain distance from the Golan-heights (or maybe even pull out of Syria ???) Israel, US and Jordan would stop supporting their "rebels" (IS, alquaida) in SW Syria. 
DJ-Problem may be in not being able to get a final agreement. Military action (with Israel striking Gaza, maybe even involved in Yemen war https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/massive-explosion-rocks-east-aleppo-airbase-overnight-military-denies-israeli-airstrikes/, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/houthi-leader-claims-israeli-warplanes-are-flying-over-western-yemen/) may be part of the diplomacy.
DJ-Since the US is behaving impossible Russia may be able to make a deal with Israel and Jordan-Russia giving a certain protection against "rebels/terrorists" moving from SW Syria into Jordan or Israel. 

In SE Syria https://southfront.org/syrian-government-ypg-reach-deal-to-share-oil-from-omar-field-in-eastern-syria-turkish-media/ pro-Iran forces-not welcome in SW Syria-could be used to deal with the last IS pockets. In Al-Tanf-Damascus-Baghdad highway US forces and IS seem to cooperate. https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/1-june-reports-of-clashes-between-kurdish-militias-and-iraqi DJ-I would not be surprised when forces from Iraq would play a major role in SE Syria.

In NW Syria developments depend on how the coming Turkish elections(campain) go. Erdogan could use a succes against Kurds. There is growing pressure in Turkey for better relations with Assad. And growing frustration with the US on US support for the Kurds, problems with weapondeals (US telling Turkey not to buy Russian weapons-but also not willing to sell F35's). 

The Syria-conflict is showing a shift to diplomacy. Most likely as an unexpected outcome of the US getting out of the Iran-deal. 1-Iran feels less restricted since other countries agree Iran is dealing with the Iran-deal, 2-For Turkey it is getting more clear you can not make deals with the (present) US (so you have to make deals with Russia and Iran). 3-Also for Russia new doors have opened. The EU is willing to do bussiness (Nordstream, Turkstream), Turkey, Iran, China working closer. Even Israel and Russia did find eachother. (Israel can not afford a major conflict with Iran or Hezbollah without US help-it will not get that US-help-so Gaza is the "easy"target to show "strenght"-talks with Russia to only way to deal with Iran and Hezbollah.)

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Maybe there will be a meeting june 12 between NK-Kim and US-Trump-maybe there will not be...it is losing significance. The conflict the US has did get much larger-the South China Sea, Taiwan, tradewars with Korea and Japan. Even Japan now is talking with Russia and China ! 

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DJ-The US may be in a global defensive. When the US is not able to use diplomacy-even with its allies-blame foreign trade instead of permanent wars, inbalance in taxing in the US, for their budget-problems the US is losing ground. 
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49549.htm Israel may have had plans to attack Iran in 2011-it does not have those plans now. Saudi Arabia is selling oil in other than US-petro-$. (And KSA is still losing the Yemen-war). The US-Saudi-Israel coalition is breaking up. Other Pacific-plans (Japan, Australia, India-Gulf States-US) are not working. At the UN the US stands alone http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49555.htm

In a tradewar https://sputniknews.com/world/201806031065048254-france-us-trade-war-avoid/ it may be the US that will suffer most.
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http://theduran.com/russias-key-role-in-bringing-north-and-south-korea-together-video/ While Russia is working on a railroad/pipeline connection between South Korea-via North Korea to Russia/Europe; the US is http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/06/04/563852/US-UAE-call-Yemen-port being pulled in yet another, endless, war-Yemen. (Maybe to get Saudi-troops to take over SDF/US positions in Eastern Syria-KSA is the main sponsor of IS and alquaida) http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/06/03/563733/Yemen-Israel-Hudaydah-Houthi Of course Israel claims Iran is in Yemen.

http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/2628-breaking-news-u-s-planning-90-nato-troop-reduction To force NATO-members to spend more on US weapons (The US itself is spending more on military than the next 10 countries put together-the US military industrial complex is dependend on tax-payers money-a lot of it-so less money for healthcare, education, housing-deny climate change-still the "wars-for-profit-criminals" want more (European) money.)

http://www.atimes.com/article/why-india-is-ignoring-us-sanctions-and-sticking-with-iran//, http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/06/04/563867/US-China-Russia-Iran-nuclear-deal-EU-Lendman. Not only Russia-India-China, also countries in the region, Pakistan, Turkey will be doing bussiness with Iran (and not in US$). 

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-04/trump-celebrates-500th-day-unacceptable-trade-war-tweet-blasts-unconstitutional There are lots of parallels in history on Trump, or the present US. Comparisons are always "simplifications" but "it may be time for getting realistic". 

It is not fair to put all the blame on Trump-US foreign policy did derail proberbly even befor the fall of the Soviet Union. But it may be reaching a climax now-and "a major crisis"is just around the corner....
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DJ-It may be to early to tell how things will develop but "the west" (under US "leadership") is "gone".

http://theduran.com/the-shanghai-cooperation-organization-is-evolving-to-take-on-nato-video/ and http://theduran.com/xi-and-putin-cooking-up-some-chinese-dishes-as-g7-in-toronto-sours-video/ Russia and China are further improving their relations. The Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO-also including India, Pakistan, with Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan on the list of possible future members-DJ-it may become a "tool" for BRICS-cooperation-so what will Brazil, South Africa do ?)

DJ-The SCO will not be "another NATO"-more clever it will deal with some partners in some conflicts, other partners in other conflicts. Most likely Syria will be left to Russia and Iran (as a coming SCO member), Afghanistan maybe something China, India and Pakistan (with Russia and Iran as "advisors") will deal with. The ambitions for the SCO most likely will be global. Africa and Latin America see already an increase in China-investments. This may grow in SCO-members opening (air)ports, railways etc. https://www.rt.com/business/428898-russia-gulf-countries-railway/

Not only the G7 "did end", also NAFTA ended-so Mexico will follow other Latin American countries, Canada may look at the UK, EU for "inspiration". Putin is not "interested" in "the west", even Iran may be able to find its way without western involvement. When Iran can not buy planes with Boeing China is willing to sell planes, Russia also has offers-European Airbus better wake-up or lose acces to the "new global market".  When "western companies"are afraid to buy Iranian oil China will buy that oil. 

The coming Trump-Kim summit will see Trump backed by noweone, Kim backed by not only Russia and China maybe by now most of Asia. An end of conflict in Korea will be based on the US leaving South Korea. 
The US may be about to lose its global position-https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/06/05/absence-diplomacy-isolating-washington-paul-craig-roberts/ the only thing making the US a "superpower"-when trade-wars are the norm-is the military. Does Trump-or another "elite" want to start a war between the US and the rest of the world ? 

DJ-Even the US-Saudi-Israel alliance is breaking up. The US for Israel was a tool for pressure-but the US can/will not safe Israel in a major conflict-Israel can and does talk with Russia. Saudi Arabia wants to be part of the New Silk Road-like plans. The US has not such plans, Russia and China have-so to compete with Iran Saudi Arabia better further improve relations with them...(A US-plan for Japan-Australia-India-Gulf States is not even a real plan-would it also include Taiwan, South Korea ? Australia's main trade partners are China, India, Indonesia...)

The world is changing high speed-the risk for accidents increase with that high speed. 
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I have to agree.
Not being a politician*, I can say what I think and not be constrained by the potential overseas reaction.  America's allies have always had a problem with the USA.  We know that we are friends only for so long as America finds it expedient.  We have watched, several times before, as the States dropped, like a hot potato, those whom they perceived to have become useless (Their 5th column allies in Vietnam and  also their allies in WWII).  They then deny shared advantages to said allies where they can and indulge in a little subtle looting if expedient (operation paperclip for example).

But it is such a large, rich and populous county; and it carries an excessively large arsenal.  So us little guys snivel, simper, and smile along in its wake, obsequiously humble as Uriah Heep, collecting crumbs from the big guy's table.  Expediency drives all politics.  I personally like the people here on AFT, but most Brits don't like "yanks" very much, it is seen as the global equivalent of the school bully already.  Sorry, if that offends, but it is the truth.  Most global trade is already slightly skewed in America's favour.  It skims the lions share of the world's output already.  If you Americans thought yourselves the big heroes rushing to everyone's rescue, I am sorry to be the one to tell you.  But, you only do that for your own oil, stability, power, wealth or image.  Sadly, there is a really good reason why America is hated by the very people who most want to live there.  You made your own country luxurious and free at the expense of almost everyone else.  'And to our shame we encouraged you - for nothing more than access to your crumbs.  Shame on us!

Now, under Trump, the school bully is taking our dinner money as well as our allowance.  He tried it with China first, and that big kid stood up to him.  Now, apparently, it is time to wedgee the little nerds.  There is a school principal we could tattle-tale to, but our trade overseers are on a par with "Skinner the Principal of Springfield Elementry" for usefulness, possibly even more impotent.

So, smarting in the rear or not, we are starting to do the only thing nerds can do; banding together.  Who knows how it will end?  I don't.  Sometimes a pack of nerds manage to beat up the bully.  Sometimes the bully hospitalises a few of them instead. Either way there could be some blood in the playground.  I do know I am angry; I don't think I am alone in that; you can only kick a dog so many times before it turns. 

America is starting to lose allies, pretty weak ones by their standards, but allies nonetheless.  Alliances painstakingly built over centuries are crumbling over a timespan of days.  No wonder Kim is willing to talk now, no other opportunity has ever before presented itself when America had such little international backing.

I have one small crumb of comfort to offer; however low our collective opinion of The USA falls, it will never fall as far as that of North Korea.  Kim really needs to be aware of that.




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Yankees comes from the Dutch names Jan Kees-in my opinion "we are all family". In the 18/19th century lots of Europeans moved to cities or overseas for jobs. The US, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Argentina did see a lot of new people arrive-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henk_Sneevliet and http://www.let.leidenuniv.nl/history/migration/chapter54.html some Dutch went to Russia and China. 

The present US-EU crisis (still including the UK) will effect NATO and many other organizations. The break between the US and "a lot of other countries" goes much deeper that the Iran-deal, G7-trade or even climate change. Trump ignored the G7 talks on womens rights on equal pay. When you think of the people in prison and of the 8 million worldwide-over two million of them are in US prisons, the role the CIA plays in international drugstrade, the deadpenalty etc. acces to healthcare and education, housing-the US is not a "civilized country" to European standards. From Canada to Russia there is agreement on things like climate change, human rights, governments role in it-the US did destroy countries (like Libya, iraq, Syria) with decent healthcare, education etc. to make some "state-criminals"rich. 

"Socialism is wrong"in US opinion-but it is okay to put tax money to a military industrial (including fossil fuel)  complex that is destroying the world.


With the Kim-Trump meeting in Singapore the US may show its military strenght (to the rest of the world-not only NK) by starting a war in the middle east ? The downward spiral going down very fast ? 

There are some links between Iran and NK- NK is getting support from Syria, Iran proberbly Pakistan. In the past NK did sell weapons to countries that had difficulty getting that kind of materials elsewere. 

Even if there is no proof Israel (and the US) may claim a link between Iran and NK. 

Netenyahu, Poroshenko are in problems and hope the US will come to help them against Iran, Russia...

http://tass.com/defense/1008806 US-Russia Helsinki (failed) meeting june 8
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I can't argue with any of that either, Josh.

There are two ways to accrue political power within a state.  Overtly, by total communist style control, or covertly, by propaganda and abuse of money.

In my book, Lucifer and Beelzebub are meeting on Tuesday.  (Possibly just Lucifuge Rofocale and some other duke of hell*)



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because he and his very small administration   tell so many lies best not to believe    

anything that he or they say ,

dont worry Chump will be gone soon ,the American People will 

SACK HIM

 in the Mid terms..........

cant wait to see that day ..............
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Korea

Some thoughts on the Trump-Kim Singapore meeting. 

http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/2678-trump-kim-summit-peace-treaty DJ-This meeting is a startingpoint-not a peacetreaty yet. (I do not believe Trump will get a nobel-peace-prize so far).
DJ-The WH-video about investments etc. miss the point that those investments most likely will be Asian investments. The US is in a tradewar with South Korea, China, Russia (etc). 

DJ-When you want to press a country away from developing nuclear weapons-or giving up its WMD-it is always a complicated proces. The US did step out of the Iran-deal-how does the US think to make a far more complex proces in North Korea work ?

There is a Moon-Putin-Plan, Korean unification is on top of the Korean agenda's. Russia and China, South Korea are the main players. The way THAAD was put in SK-in the last days of Parks presidency, even after the elections wich Moon did win-against the will of the incoming new Moon-government is yet another indication of the US position. 

I think it is good there was a Trump-Kim meeting. But the US is seen as the problem in many countries. One could say that there was "a giant third party invisible present" during the meeting. If the US-NK peace proces will work it is because of Russia, China, South Korea and many others that want it to work. There is no bases for a North Korea-deal-like the Iran-deal-so it will be informal and maybe the US could experience (further) international pressure. 

China and Russia (most likely India, Iran etc.) will not accept regime change in NK as long as NK is doing what they want. Asia will lift sanctions for NK at a certain moment-wether the US likes it or not. 

Kim and Trump both are not in control on many parts of the Korea peace proces. 
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DJ-Around the globe-though most in the US-there are some people getting very rich from war. They do not want peace, they want taxpayers to make them more rich. Even when this brings the world even close to major disaster...



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WORST EVER NATO-RUSSIA MILITARY CLASH 
(THE BALTIC SEA FIFA WORLD CUP INCIDENT)

Incident involving downing of Russian airplanes and their sinking three NATO boats is rumoured to have occurred in the Baltic Sea. The incident had not been authorised by any political command and heavy court martial duly follow to the culprit. One obvious motivation for incident has been to slur the FIFA World Cup in Russia and it appears as if an act of some sort of nationalist blowing off missiles in an attempt to create political crisis and slur Russia's successful FIFA World Cup hosting. Some countries have ordered a gagging order in order not to disturb the football games to create unfavourable distraction. President Donald Trump would have been very angry on this and lecturing on matter. Let's await and see if details of the incident come out once the FIFA World Cup is over, if not, then we may have to await for years for the details to come out. You will see hopefully soon whether my connections are good in political affairs... Sad though for the personnel who died as firing missiles brought down planes and three NATO boats sunken as Russians response to the fire at them. NB: Above 'military rumour' cannot be validated right now.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_close_calls and https://futureoflife.org/background/nuclear-close-calls-a-timeline/?cn-reloaded=1

DJ-"Nuclear close calls" may have happened at average at least once a year during the (last) cold war. 

The (Veli) Albert Kallio rumour of a clash between "a Baltic NATO member" and Russia may be only the tip of the iceberg. There may have been "serious incidents" between the US-Russia, China,Iran and Israel-Russia, Iran in Syria. The US bombing Russian "military contractors" in Syria, Israel attacking targets in Syria with also Russian forces did get main stream. Also "incidents" above/in the South China Sea did get published. The US/NATO most likely is involved in Ukraine military actions against (pro)Russian forces. 

(DJ-The Trump-Putin meeting http://theduran.com/halt-in-us-aid-to-syrian-rebels-seen-as-signal-to-moscow-analyst/ (in wich Putin is backed by China, Iran https://southfront.org/us-threats-dont-work-indias-defense-ministry-reportedly-approves-s-400-deal/) may be one of the last chances to avoid "further escalation". Iran may follow the North Korea route after the Trump/US ending of the Iran-deal. Iran does take her part of the deal serious to enable trade with the EU, China, India etc.)

https://www.facebook.com/albert.kallioThe hatreds seem to prevail from Ukraine to the Baltic States and the persistent rumors continue in military and diplomatic circles to say that themost serious clash between NATO and Russia coincided with the opening of FIFA world cup in Russia - apparently by unauthorised military action by a Baltic NATO state military, with Russian planes downed and 3 NATO (Baltic) boats sunk by the Russians.
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http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/2830-nato-to-be-given-bad-news-the-jig-is-up-spend-on-defense-or-lose-the-usa If the EU does not buy more (needless expensive and useless) US weapons the US will get out of NATO ? https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-10/tusk-warns-trump-appreciate-your-allies-you-dont-have-many The EU is split over many issues-from refugees-due to US agression in Asia and Africa to climate change, brexit etc. Turkey is buying (better cheaper working) Russian weapons-close to leaving NATO. 

Italy, Germany are buying Russian gas-even the UK needed Russian energy last winter. Paying for energy in Euro's must be tempting. US sanctions for EU companies working on Russian energy projects are insulting. Nordstream 1 and 2, Turkstream are decissions European countries should make themselves. Also doing bussiness with Iran is something the US has to stay out of. 

https://southfront.org/us-forces-leaving-al-tanfand-syria-russia-remains-in-the-levant/ The Putin-Trump meeting in Helsinki-Finland July 16 can produce a "new global perspective" with the US accepting a "more limited global role". (The US has a choice-leave Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan-stop agression against Iran-or face the consequences. Russia-Iran-China "do not have much patience left" for the US.) Israel and Saudi Arabia are already doing bussiness with Russia and China. (They do not need the US longer when that is an obstacle in new trade deals with the rest of Asia.)

The EU and US agree on China-still since the US did start a trade war with the EU and China-China has room to make (unfair) deals. 

DJ-The EU most likely will move to "several speeds" with Germany, Austria, Netherlands, Finland going for further cooperation, (A EU-1) and some other EU countries taking some steps back-looking for an alternative for the Euro (for economic and political reasons-EU-2). Maybe this can help the UK in its brexit-crisis ?  
EU-1 will stick to the deals with Russia, Iran, work with China in the New Silk Road. (Already railway connections are under construction to deal with EU-China trade. https://www.csis.org/analysis/rise-china-europe-railways, https://www.osw.waw.pl/en/publikacje/osw-studies/2018-02-28/silk-railroad-eu-china-rail-connections-background-actors, https://www.economist.com/business/2017/09/16/new-rail-routes-between-china-and-europe-will-change-trade-patterns etc. Also new shipping routes north of Russia-via the Arctic-does change global trade.) EU-2 may have to deal with the refugee-crisis and get compensation for that by EU-1. (Eventhough the Netherlands could welcome people that can work in building, transport, healthcare-we may have over 500.000 vacancies !!! Most likely workers from other EU countries are preferred above refugees-but good qualified refugee-workers may be welcomed as well.)

The gap between the EU and US is growing-disagreement on many priorities (renewable energy versus fossil fuel, Israel, military spending, Russia, (global) trade) have become to big to ignore. Between Germany-EU1 and EU-2 (Greece, Italy, Spain) France, Poland etc. have to find a role. DJ-France did have good relations with Russia-even during the Soviet Union times. It may find its own way in many issues-in name only-staying in the EU/Eurozone. 
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TECHNICAL-some of the links in my contribution turn out to be advertisments/links for books, articles-somehow those "links" came in my post. 

Maybe someone can tell me how to avoid "unwanted links "? 

(The links I make are with and -Does AFT allow advertisers to change posts ???? Or do I something "untechnical"?) 

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It happens to me too DJ.  It only appears when I edit my posts.  I mentioned this, but no one replied so I suspect it stems from an unknown cause.

I now avoid it when editing by:  First copying my post,
                                                   Then deleting it,
                                                   Pasting the copied text into the reply box,
                                                   Editing it,
                                                   'And finally, posting it again as a new corrected post.

I'm sorry, I have not found an easier way to edit things yet.  Hatchi' probably knows a better way, I fervently wish I had half of her computer savvy!
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Thanks Techno....maybe I write my posts elsewere-including the links-than copy it to AFT-or else number my links (so the links without numbers are not my links) 

It is not a major problem-still thank you

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