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Just some zero-hedge posts on how world war three is developing;

-https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-01/jim-rickards-three-way-train-wreck-about-derail-markets DJ-The US-central thinking is wrong ! The EU is moving away from the US-why should the US save the US$ (at cost from the €) ? Why should the EU accept US pressure to buy US or Saudi energy ( instead of Iran or Russian ?)

-https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-02/us-threatens-destroy-russian-nuclear-capable-missile-system-if-necessary and http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/3226-u-s-ambassador-warns-russia-us-will-attack-russia-itself-over-certain-missile-development

-https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-02/hillary-said-so-iran-quotes-wikileaks-un-prove-saudis-are-state-sponsors-terror DJ-Saudi Arabia was the main 9-11 perpetrator-"the West" does not want to see that US$ enabled this crime. (Just like most people do not want to know who put the nazi's in power and why-just 15 years after the Russian revolution (caused by Germany transporting Lenin from Switzerland to Russia to end the two front war in World War 1).

-https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-01/erdogan-lashes-out-us-defiantly-says-american-pastor-has-dark-links-terror

-https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-01/major-arms-deal-gets-green-light-ahead-russia-india-summit

-https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-01/china-cancels-us-security-summit-millitary-tensions-escalate

DJ-https://www.debka.com/strategic-breakthrough-for-iran-in-unimpeded-drone-missile-attack-on-e-syria/ there are several "hot conflicts" escalating with other conflicts getting hotter (Nicaragua, Venezuela, Ukraine etc.).

The world is moving-high speed-in the wrong direction....

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/10/note-to-nato-you-dont-take-out-missiles-without-having-a-war-.html# and http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/10/world-war-3-reporting-escalates.html
(DJ-Were does the US get any right from to block Russian and Iran energy transports ? Were does the US get any right to tell countries like India,China or Turkey NOT to buy Russian weapons "or else" is the US gone mad ?????)
Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !
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http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/10/iran-sanctions-us-responds-to-court-order-by-canceling-treaty-that-gave-the-court-jurisdiction.html# The US seems to believe they are above any international law.

Israel claims to have a right to attack targets in an other country eventhough that country is not attacking them. http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/3233-russia-issues-electronic-warfare-warning-to-israel E.W. (Electronic Warfare) can get planes out of control (or even make planes remote controlled).

DJ-There are enough military/intel people in Israel that want an other way in dealing with neighbours. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-01/insider-attacks-retired-army-major-laments-us-middle-east-policy-blowback

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-03/us-china-diving-new-cold-war-jack-ma-warns-when-trade-stops-sometimes-war-starts
DJ-Maybe the EU, "another Israel" or an other "third party" can bring the US to its senses. The US is putting sanctions/tradewars on almost all other countries-and damaging itself by it !

(DJ-Dutch steel-from Indian Tata-steel-exports to the US increased. The US uses this steel to make a.o. cars. At the end those cars are getting that expensive-due to US sanctions-the US can forget exporting those cars...)
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DJ-The 8-o-clock evening news in the Netherlands was full of a claim Russian military intelligence (GRU) tried to hack the OPCW in The Hague april 10. They did this with mobile phones-is the claim-from the back of a rented (Dutch) car at a parking space of a hotel next to the OPCW.
At that time the OPCW was looking at Skripal and Douma-stories.

Dutch military intelligence claimed to have intervened when the GRU started their technology for the hack. Stopped the 4 GRU-members and put them on the next plane to Moscow.

DJ-Why is this in the news now ? (via a pressconference of the Dutch MIVD-military intel) Russia claims they do not need a hack at the OPCW since they are a member of the OPCW-have access to the network....

DJ-In the news story also claims on the MH17 story (GRU trying to block investigation-in my opinion the Joint Investigation Team can not function when Ukraine is part of it.) and GRU involved in hacking the doping-sports-test facility in Switzerland.

I do have serious doubts on how the "west" is investigating these events. Not for a moment I do believe Russians to be saints-but it is the west wich invaded Afghanistan in 2001, Iraq in 2003, started wars in Libya, Syria, Yemen, Ukraine etc. It is NATO moving towards Russia borders.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-04/us-indicts-7-russians-international-hacking-spree and https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45746837 Russian reaction https://www.rt.com/news/440356-russia-coordinated-hacking-accusations-nato/

Not only "bad Russia" also "bad China" https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-04/explosive-report-details-chinese-infiltration-apple-amazon-and-cia and https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-04/step-aside-russia-pence-declare-china-top-us-foreign-enemy

Some background;

-http://thesaker.is/russia-disrupted-natos-victory-in-macedonia-by-voter-apathy-we-are-waiting-for-new-sanctions/
-http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/3237-russia-tells-u-s-close-camp-rikban-and-remove-troops-from-tanf-syria-fast

Furtheremore; Brexit, Italy/EU crises (also a.o. with Romania, Hungary, Poland-Eurocrises), NATO-crisis (Turkey) problems for Merkel in Germany, "politcal"(???) chaos in the US.

Not that Russia-Iran-China do not have (serious) problems but they are gaining global power while the "west" is losing it.

Do we get to a position were the US claim they run the world or there will not be a world left ????
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DJ; Good article on the "bad Russia/bad China" propaganda from NATO. The conclusion, we saw such a campain earlier as an attempt to get public support for the invasion of Iraq in 2003. http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/10/how-the-us-runs-public-relations-campaigns-trump-style-against-russia-and-china.html#
(Bolton then even threatened the children of the head of the OPCW if the OPCW did not go for the WMD claim against Iraq.)

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-05/russian-military-us-killed-dozens-bioweapon-disguised-drug-research and https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-05/bioweapon-fears-darpa-plans-spread-viruses-using-insects, https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-05/hot-economic-warfare-scrambling-rare-earth-minerals

https://www.facebook.com/JoseBarbaNueva Joe Neubarth (ex-US navy) has been warning-not only for climate change but also for the US to start a nuclear war (in reaction to climate change-Trump does not longer deny climate change-"but the party is now")

DJ-A worst case scenario could be the US claiming only the US has a right to dominate the world-if that gets under pressure the US "may end the world".
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A timeline of the US trade war on China; https://southfront.org/trumps-trade-war-and-escalation-of-us-china-standoff/

https://www.debka.com/us-to-give-israel-more-f-35s-to-face-s-300s-deploy-a-squadron-in-emirates/ DJ-The US wants Israel to remain "active"over Syria (most likely also to proof the F35-JSF has some value-S300/S400 may detect the "stealth"plane-also the noise make it traceble.( The F35 makes more noice than the F16-it is in the sky giving away its position)

http://theduran.com/us-secretary-of-the-interiors-idiotic-idea-for-naval-blockade-against-russian-energy-supplies-video/ The US war-talk is pushing oil-prices-allthough the US is the largest oil producer (by fracking itself to destruction) it is not the largest energy exporter. The EU, India, China need Russian energy.

US sanctions on Russia made Russia stronger, US sanctions on the EU is making the US weaker....total stupidity !

From the video; "If these remarks reflect the US vision of the world "God help us". (DJ-The US is gone mad-for the moment-hope it will not last much longer.) "Russia is not Libya or Iraq"-the US does not get it....
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DJ-What to expect in the coming time on "wars"?

After Tito died in Yugoslavia, Serbia wanted better relations with Russia (for cultural, religious reasons, orthodox church etc.). "The west" was happy the Sowjet Union had become past history.

To stop Serbs getting close to Russia "the west" did support the break up of Yugoslavia, by recognizing Slovenia, Croatia.

The goal "the west" had with Syria is to break it up in several parts; Kurdish, Sunni etc.

That scenario will be used against R-I-C, Russia, Iran and China. Supporting minorities, political, religious etc the "western" goal will be to break up Russia, Iran, China. From supporting Kurds, Azerbijani, Baluchi etc in Iran, to Uyghurs in China, muslims, political minorities in Russia.

In reaction "the east" may try to break up "western countries", from giving support to the Catalunya, Scottish etc. movements, to breaking up NATO, EU.

The (not so) United States may face "movements" to break up the US. Texas, California, Alaska, Hawaii, "New-England" breaking away from the US, claims of land by Mexico....

Since an all-out (nuclear) war would be to destructive a "global civil war"-with companies getting exploitation rights for resources being protected by Private Military Contractors etc, privatization of war....
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DJ-The Khashoggi murder is pushing several crises;

-The US powerstruggle with Trump defending trade-deals with IS-audi-family "kingdom" and "opposition" trying to attack Trump

-A crisis in Saudi Arabia, the crown prince being responsible for several disasters

-Another crisis in the US-Saudi-Israel coalition. Israel preparing for military action against Gaza as a distraction.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/10/saudis-admit-khashoggi-murder.html# and http://theduran.com/saudi-arabias-version-of-events-jamal-khashoggi-died-during-a-fist-fight-video/

On the background is the struggle for "world domination". (DJ-do not get me wrong, I am not anti-US. When one country "wants to rule the world" that country will get "blood on its hands". The Dutch were in that position in the 17th century, after that the UK got in that position till 1918.)

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-october-19-2018-isis-captures-700-hostages-including-us-eu-citizens/ DJ-In Syria Putin is getting more control via (a.o.) Turkey and Iran. The US and IS are allies, creating chaos is a way in wich US is trying to get control over oil (in Libya, Venezuela, Iraq etc). Of course that strategy will backfire-the US had more influence in Iraq with Saddam Hussein fighting Iran in the 1980's then the US has now.

The Kurds are moving away from the US-that only is using them. When Russia may be able to get better deals (via influence in Turkey, Iraq, Iran) Kurds will work with Russia.

Via fracking the US has moved to #1 oil/energy producer (Saudi#2, Russia#3, Iran#5). China and India are the largest buyers of energy. Russia is the dominating EurAsian energy exporter. On the longer term-when the US does not need Middle East energy there is no point in the petro-dollar or US dominance in the Middle East.

The US-China trade war is making China investing in Europe, India etc. US-EU sanctions on Russia did make Russia stronger (they now make themselves what they did buy in the US or find other trade-partners) and boost Russia-Turkey/Iran trade.

Still the US market is very important for China-closing that market (and still talk of "free trade" ) is a serious blow for China.

The doomsday-clock is still https://thebulletin.org/doomsday-clock/ 2 minutes to midnight at best....

The "west" is in a crisis, from Brexit (50% for 50% against EU in the UK) being a major problem both for the UK and the EU. NATO-Middle East "links", with (former) US allies-Turkey, Pakistan working with Iran and Russia. The not very united US in political chaos....
Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !
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In a word....

MADNESS......

cant see it getting any better
12 Monkeys...............
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