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In Syria;
http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/3602-real-trouble-begin-tomorrow-in-syria-turks-to-launch-offensive-against-u-s-backed-kurds and https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/19-december-happening-now-as-people-in-tel-abyad-town-in, https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/19-december-sdf-has-rejected-the-presence-of-northern-syria leads to http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/3604-plans-being-made-for-full-and-rapid-withdrawal-of-u-s-troops-from-syria
DJ-In practice this could mean that SDF will work with pro-Assad forces to keep Turkey from entering Syria.

DJ-The whole US strategy in the Middle East is falling apart. The M.E. region will realize who to do bussiness with; Russia, Iran, Turkey and Assad in Syria.

The US is moving to another front;
http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/3607-ukraine-to-send-more-warships-thru-kerch-strait
DJ-With https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yulia_Tymoshenko the most likely winner of the coming elections https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petro_Poroshenko is getting desperate. http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/3598-putin-if-ukraine-attacks-donestsk-or-luhansk-ukraine-will-cease-to-exist Putin did draw a red line. Russia is willing to deal with Tymoshenko.

DJ-It is very unlikely that the plans of some "politicians"to put Ukraine and Georgia in NATO will get real. No sane military is willing to die for scum like Poroshenko and his nazi/IS allies. Ukraine is broken by the conflict with Russia. A main source of income, energy transport from Russia to the EU (also via Poland) is now gone.
With these kind of "politicians" a country does not need enemies; those "leaders"push their country to destruction themselves !

Also the US position in Iraq and Afghanistan is getting impossible. How many US soldiers will have to die before D.C. gets the point ?
(Why are people like Bush(jr), Blair, h.clinton, Balkenende and Aznar not in prison for war-crimes ?)

https://www.debka.com/trump-orders-us-troop-pullout-from-ne-syria-israel-left-alone-against-russia-iran/ DJ-Israel, Netanyahu, will have to do deals with (his more or less friend) Putin. (Just like Saudi Arabia/Gulf States will have to do). In change for "support" Russia will provide "safety and stability"-translation-Russia might take over the Middle East (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(Hal Turner is warning for false flags-this movement-US out of Syria-(happening right now, SAA forces moving into Kurdish held area's) has very major consequences !)
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https://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/12/report-us-to-leave-syria-immediately.html, https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-19/drastic-reversal-us-prepares-full-withdrawal-forces-syria-immediately DJ-Memories of US forces getting out of "South Viet Nam" come up. The US must be in a hurry to save US forces from; angry Kurds, Syrians, Iranians,Turks etc. (I-DJ-hope the chaos will see as limited as possible loss of life. Most likely Russia is telling Turkey not to invade-yet. Pushing pro-Assad forces into Kurdish held area's to "work with the Kurds" (under Assad rules). For US allies this US move is a shock. The EU-countries can not support a US that is saying to "stay permanent in Syria-to fight IS" and a few days later move out. The disasterous US foreign policy is putting the US in total isolation !)

https://www.sana.sy/en/?p=153909:
Moscow, SANA-Russian Foreign Ministry announced on Wednesday that the US has begun to recognize that its rejection of the efforts exerted by Astana guarantor states “Russian, Iran and Turkey” in Syria harms the US interests.

“The US decision to withdraw its troops from Syria opens new horizons for the political settlement in the country,” RT quoted the Russian Foreign Ministry as saying in a statement commenting on Washington announcement the start of withdrawing its troops from Syria.

The Ministry expressed conviction that the troops’ withdrawal will positively affect the formation of the Committee on discussing the constitution and the situation in al-Tanf.

Ukraine:

From http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/3607-ukraine-to-send-more-warships-thru-kerch-strait latest update:
UPDATE 3:45 PM EST --
Secretary of National Security Defense Council of Ukraine Turchynov: "New Ukrainian missiles allow our military to de-block Azov Sea and destroy the [Kerch] bridge."

(HT Analysis: In this one sentence, the government of Ukraine just gave Russia an actual reason to utterly smash Ukraine. When he said "destroy the [Kerch] Bridge" he killed his own country. If any single event is recorded in history as to how World War 3 began in Europe, THIS STATEMENT from Ukraine ought to be shown as the reason.   Completely retarded. Utterly stupid.

DJ-Poroshenko on a suïcide-mission to "stay in power"? Trying to start W,W,3 for his own interests ? Insane !
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DJ-There are some reports of https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/us-and-french-troops-withdraw-from-manbij-area-in-northern-syria-sdf/

http://theduran.com/in-drastic-reversal-trump-orders-full-withdrawal-from-syria-after-victory-over-isis/ and https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-19/dont-hold-your-breath-us-troop-withdrawal-syria DJ-There are more than 2000 US military in Syria. US main stream media are proven unreliable. The Israeli reaction https://www.debka.com/mivzak/netanyahu-on-us-withdrawal-from-syria-we-shall-defend-ourselves/ and Kurdish etc. sources, https://southfront.org/us-starts-withdrawal-from-syria-sdf-calls-it-stab-in-the-back/ may give a better indication of what is happening.

DJ-The Kurds will not be happy with the US betrayal. Other forces do want the US out as soon as possible (and may assist the US in getting out fast-via Iraq ?)

http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/3608-ukraine-attacking-donetsk-with-mortar-fire DJ-In the Ukraine poroshenko is trying to create another escalation. https://southfront.org/resumption-of-military-hostilities-in-eastern-ukraine-is-drawing-nearer/. The sort of weapons used, sort of attack-may give an indication on western support for this insanity. (Most likely poroshenko does NOT get further major western support when he is using it in his "election campain". The west may even prefer talking with Putin than dealing with poroshenko-for the moment.)

The Duran https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62P-QezjSVY:
The Duran’s Alex Christoforou and International Affairs and Security Analyst via Moscow, Mark Sleboda take a look at Russia's military cooperation with Venezuela, and how this military partnership leaves neocons in Washington crying 'Russian aggression'.
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Syria;

https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/20-december-sohr-after-the-us-decision-to-withdraw-sdf-leadership SDF-Kurds talk with Assad. https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/21-december-fsa-national-liberation-front-captain-abdul-salam FSA (Free Syrian Army-Turkish backed) preparing to attack Kurdsin North Syria. https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/20-december-anha--an-iranian-military-convoy-consisting-of Iran forces moving into South Syria.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/12/why-trump-decided-to-remove-us-troops-from-syria.html#, https://southfront.org/fearing-u-s-forces-withdrawal-sdf-initiates-talks-with-damascus/

DJ-As most-the Moon of Alabama article gives a good picture. Assad did win the Syria war. Keeping at least some contacts between Turkey and the US is of main importance. Iran influence in the Middle East will increase.
https://southfront.org/france-takes-steps-to-replace-u-s-forces-in-northeastern-syria/ DJ-Maybe the French can work with Russia in transfer of US/SDF positions ?

(DJ-There were claims that Turkey would not invade Syria when the US would stop supporting the Kurds, US agreed to do so if Iran would get out of Syria. Most likely these claims are incorrect. Turkey and Iran are on the same line-more or less-regarding the Kurds. The US is not in a position to make any demands.)

https://southfront.org/days-before-war-u-s-concentrates-troops-withdraws-diplomats/:
Summing up the abovementioned factors, it seems that the US is urgently withdrawing combat-ready forces from the conflcit zones to free them for some other operations. The only real reason that can explain these actions is that the US expects a big hot military conflict in which it will be involved. In the case of such a conflict, the US will need to have an ability to deploy combat-ready troops to secure its interests or keep them in reserve if the stituation evolves into a global war.
DJ-With the US also pulling forces from Afghanistan, increase of tensions in Korea, Ukraine, claims of China cyber-war etc. the outlook still is very grim. https://southfront.org/poroshenko-reveals-deployment-of-assault-troops-on-coast-of-sea-of-azov-black-sea/ (DJ-poroshenko wants to stay in power by escalating the "tensions" with Russia. There are "elements" that want Ukraine (Georgia etc.) to become NATO-member.)

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-20/continued-american-occupation-middle-east-does-not-suppress-terrorism-it-causes-it,
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-20/us-geopolitical-strategy-experiencing-monumental-shift,https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-20/china-blasts-baseless-cyber-spying-accusations-warns-serious-damage-relations

DJ-The reason why the US was in Afghanistan (in fact since 1979-to create a Viet Nam for the Soviet Union), Iraq (2003) Syria, Libya etc was "to fight Russia, China, Iran". That strategy did fail but the conflict is far from over. Russia-Iran(/India)-China (RIC)-now with also Iraq, Pakistan, Syria, Turkey is getting united against the US as long as the US claims to be "the boss". RIC in economic. military, population etc. way is "running (Eur)Asia and in doing so running the world".

The Russian military planes in Venezuela, advisors in Cuba, Nicaragua (Mexico ?) mean that "RIC now is in the offensive". http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/u-s-national-news/3616-united-states-invokes-section-235-b-2-c-of-immigration-and-nationality-act:In an absolutely STUNNING move, the Trump Administration today "stuck-it" to Democrats by notifying Mexico the United States is invoking Section 235(b)(2)(c) of the Immigration and Nationality Act.

This means ANYONE arriving in the US from Mexico, without authorization or proper paperwork, is IMMEDIATELY REMOVED back to Mexico to await their immigration claim . . . whatever that claim is.

DJ-This comes close to a decleration of war with Mexico (?)(and Latin America). With also https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-20/trump-throws-stopgap-bill-disarray-will-not-sign-anything-without-perfect-border.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-20/next-financial-crisis-here-pt-3-most-important-three DJ-These major shifts may bring a crash of the US-petro-$. The EU will "move East" to save itself. Countries like the UK, Poland etc. may be "kicked out" of a "core EU" (Germany, France Be(lgium)Ne(therlands),Lux(emburg), Austria, Finland, and a few others).
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Syria;

DJ-Turkey is not ready to take over the SDF held area's in NE Syria. The Kurds are not ready to work with pro-Assad forces. The France-UK-US (FUKUS) coalition is not realy moving yet. https://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/12/first-fallout-of-trumps-decision-to-withdraw-from-syria.html
(DJ-will the "deep state" force Trump out of office for trying to end insane endless, pointless wars ? Only weaponmakers make profit out of it.)
https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-dec-21-2018-us-evacuates-base-in-al-tanf-prepares-to-halt-aerial-operation/

Ukraine

DJ-OK Assad can get Syria-now poroshenko must get Ukraine ? Even via false flag-attacks. FUKUS in Ukraine with special forces etc. http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/3619-very-serious-developments-in-ukraine-new-military-gear-arrives-russian-troops-armor-and-ships-now-on-the-move
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DJ-Has this https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-23/plunge-protector-mnuchin-reportedly-called-bank-ceos-calm-markets-ahead-monday-open, http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/u-s-national-news/3626-urgent-treasury-secretary-calls-ceo-s-of-top-banks-liquidity-check-for-monday something to do with this http://theduran.com/an-end-to-empires/, https://southfront.org/russia-sdf-discuss-deployment-of-syrian-border-guards-east-of-euphrates/ ?

https://southfront.org/global-economy-teeters-on-the-brink-of-a-recession-that-will-transform-geo-politics/

DJ-"Building a house on ice is stupid-so we build a city on ice"-debt-based economics will come to an end. The US economy is build on debts that much the US is unable to pay those debts.

Of course "this will make creditors not very happy". The plan to pay US debts by "fracking"the US to energy producer #1 failed because;
-US energy is still more expensive than other energy both in production and transport
-The US remains the main energy-consumer, the US is not a major energy exporter
-Tradewars, sanctions push major energy consumers (EU, China) away from the US
-Even traditional "oil-friends" (Saudi Arabia, Gulf States) find it hard to work with the US

For decades the US was in control of the global energy market (even during the 1st "cold war"-the Soviet Union did sell oil to the west for US$ and goods). Proberbly most due to US actions themselves the US did lose this position.

With rumours of a possible major attack by US allies (Israel in Syria, Ukraine against Russia) the US may be forced into (further) wars. The US weapon-makers see their markets move away. (Russian, Chinese, Iranian weapons are better and much cheaper).

It is very likely that there will be "major developments" "very soon".
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DJ-https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-24/how-world-order-ends-and-what-comes-its-wake This article is insane. Written by someone who is not willing to see the role the US played in destroying a "global order". If this is how "the deep state thinks" we are on the highway to hell !

http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/3629-happening-right-now-tanks-from-turkey-crossing-syria-border-to-attack-kurds and http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/3628-missiles-in-the-air

DJ-The US is no longer ruling the world. To "control damage" the US should respect Russia, Iran, China and take them as serious partners. What is wrong in asking someone to stop insulting others ?
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Ukraine

DJ-The NATO backed junta in Kiev is-as can be expected-not only getting neo-nazi support, also IS is supporting poroshenko. Another report https://southfront.org/isis-trained-terrorists-support-ukrainian-operation-in-donbass/ Poroshenko is not able to start a major conflict to get reelected https://southfront.org/poroshenko-fails-to-start-new-conflict-in-eastern-europe-declares-end-of-martial-law/

(DJ-Most likely NATO is willing to support an escalation. The poroshenko-junta may be divided. A major conflict with Russia will be the end for the poroshenko-corruption.)
https://southfront.org/hacker-group-reveals-scenarios-of-possible-ukrainian-provocations-against-dpr-lpr-and-russia/

Syria

Hal Turner:
Last night, Israel fired 55 weapons into Syria, including Cruise Missiles, suicide drones and other munitions. Syria fired back.

I am now able to report that eighty-eight percent (88%) of the weapons Israel fired into Syria WERE SHOT DOWN and that Syria did NOT use the full range of its air defenses because civilian airliners were inbound to both Damascus and Beirut Airports.

Now, word from COVERT INTEL sources is revealing a startling development: Israel FAILED to intercept the missile fired by Syria into Israel! Full military censorship is engaged right now by Israel concerning this information . . . and there's more info below:(paywall)

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/israel-used-civilian-aircraft-as-cover-to-attack-syria-russian-mod/, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/high-ranking-turkish-delegation-to-visit-russia-on-december-29/, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/lebanon-slams-israeli-airstrikes-on-syria/ and https://www.debka.com/moscow-israeli-air-strike-hazarded-beirut-damascus-civilian-aircraft-weighs-extending-syrias-missile-shield-to-lebanon/,
https://southfront.org/egypt-to-back-deal-between-damascus-and-sdf-to-prevent-turkish-attack/,
https://southfront.org/videos-syrian-troops-prepare-to-enter-sdf-held-area-near-manbij-in-northern-aleppo/
https://southfront.org/gulf-states-want-syria-back-in-arab-league-u-s-is-against-report/
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201812261071017183-israel-attack-damascus/ US support ?

DJ-https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-26/israel-preparing-comprehensive-war-syria-report, https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-24/us-navy-could-abandon-major-israeli-port-after-chinese-takeover
Both Russia and China want to deal with Israel. Israel has to talk with Russia. https://www.jpost.com/International/Netanyahu-meets-Putin-in-Moscow-attends-victory-day-ceremony-555925 Netanyahu was a special guest at the may-9 victory parade in Moscow. Putin and Netanyahu have a better relationship than Trump has with Netanyahu https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Netanyahu-reveals-who-Trump-makes-deals-with-575257.) Most likely Russian tourists may visit Israel less-go to Turkey more. Maybe EW (electronic warfare) as a message for Israel aviation ?

The (US) idea that Turkey (has room to) take over US positions in Syria is "unrealistic". Neither Assad, the Kurds or the Arabs want Turkish military on Arab soil. (The "idea"of Saudi/UAE troops in Syria is even more insane). Turkey and Iran agree on wich position the Kurds may get-not a "Kurdish State", maybe some self-governance like in Iraq (were just a few years ago corrupt Kurds did trade oil from IS to the Erdogan-family-wich did sell it to Israel, France etc. (during the Paris terrorist IS attacks France was importing IS stolen oil from Iraq and Syria).
Most likely Turkey is hoping to avoid military-costly-action in Syria (even by its proxies). Russia, Syria (Arab Army), Iraq and Iran (and France ?) may help to avoid full scale Turkish action. (US forces should never have been in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan-and get out fast !!!!)
https://sputniknews.com/news/201812261071020925-donald-trump-melania-surprise-visit-iraq/

Europe

https://southfront.org/german-foreign-minister-us-nukes-must-not-be-stationed-in-europe/

Korea

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2018/12/103_260997.html
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DJ-Good article http://theduran.com/who-was-secretly-behind-americas-invading-and-occupying-syria/:
The invasion and occupation of Syria by tens of thousands of jihadists who were recruited from around the world to overthrow Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad, was financed mainly by US taxpayers and by the world’s wealthiest family, the Sauds, who own Saudi Arabia and the world’s largest oil company, Aramco. America’s international oil companies and major think tanks and ‘charitable’ foundations were also supportive and providing propaganda for the operation, but the main financing for it came from America’s taxpayers, and from the Saud family and from the Government that they own.

(DJ-The Saudi-royals behind 9/11 are the same that funded IS in Syria, Iraq, Libya. The US is paying the taliban in Afghanistan etc. Wars-for-profit kill millions while making a few very rich. The western "democracies" are for sale etc. The CIA/MI5-MI6 escape any democratic control. (partly by making money via illegal weapon, drug, human-trade.)
The picture of "how the real world works" is very grim.)

https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/27-december-united-arab-emirates-to-reopen-its-damascus-embassy

Another insane article:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-26/us-pullout-syria-who-will-fill-vacuum Some keep dreaming of the US as "democratic and free", spreading freedom for all around the globe. The endless wars-crimes in itself-would "serve the people".
DJ-Again-when major decision makers in the US (and NATO) see the world this way a major conflict is unavoidable. The US can not win any confrontation with Russia-Iran-China (etc.).

Ukraine

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-22/escobar-russia-ukraine-minsk-agreement-fiction? and https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/ukrainian-military-takes-control-of-2-3-of-donbass-gray-zone-report/

DJ-Both Netanyahu and Poroshenko are in a position to start a major conflict with Russia. Some in the US/NATO are pushing for such a conflict.
Both Netanyahu and Poroshenko realize that a major escalation could be the end of their country. Both also face elections they will lose.

The powerstruggle in the US-with "deep state" pushing for escalation to grab power-is creating global instability.https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-26/putin-2024-russian-parliament-floats-idea-constitutional-change-term-limits With the M3 (Merkel, May, Macron) in the EU also at the end of their reign Russia and China, Xi and Putin, may provide some stability.

In Israel and Ukraine the majority of the people-and a lot of the political elite-are against (major) escalation. Israel is "in communication"with Russia (a.o. about Iran). Ukraine may be influenced by Turkey.

The doomsdayclock is still two minutes to midnight-at best. https://thebulletin.org/doomsday-clock/
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https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/27-december-clashes-between-the-3rd-corps-of-the-fsa-national and https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/27-december-clashes-on-the-tukhar-front-north-of-manbij
DJ-pro-Turkish Free Syrian Army fighting with Kurdish Syrian Democratic Forces. (Syrian-pro Assad forces not that far away).https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-dec-27-2018/

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russia-allegedly-warns-turkey-to-stay-out-of-syria-let-assad-take-back-country/ and http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/opinion-editorial/hal-turner-commentary/3635-sitrep-syria

DJ-Russian forces (and maybe SAA observers?) most likely already in Manbij area. Russia will warn Turkey that a major attack on Kurds could be seen as an attack on embedded Russian forces. Still....when the Kurds continu to refuse to work with Assad most likely Russia will pull back and let the Kurds manage the confrontation with the Turks themselves. (Maybe in the South SAA could move into the oil fields-with most of the Kurdish fighters moving north to fight against Turkey).
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https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/developing-ypg-invites-syrian-govt-forces-to-assert-control-over-areas-they-have-withdrawn-from/, https://southfront.org/photo-russian-soldier-near-manbij-wears-patch-of-sdfs-manbij-militacy-council/, https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/28-december-syrian-army-raised-syrian-arab-republic-flag, https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201812281071059295-syria-flag-forces/ (etc.)

DJ-The US did not get the picture, US out of Syria=of course regaining of Assad control with Russian/Iran help and talks with Kurds (to avoid another Afrin-disaster). The US can "regroup" forces in Iraq-for as long as it last-but all of the region (except Israel) is tired of US-led-agression. https://southfront.org/breaking-bahrain-reopens-its-embassy-in-damascus/

DJ-Kurds want to concentrate on fighting IS in (oil rich) Deir Ezzor. Most likely they want to keep control over the SE-Syria oil-fields as long as possible to negotiate with Assad. (A possible scenario is Iran, (Iraq) Syria and Turkey have joint talks on the position of the Kurds. A good outcome might be that the war in Turkey could end and the Kurds may get some sort of independence. Another outcome could be further economic cooperation in West Asia. Maybe even ending the conflict between Iran and the Gulf States. If Israel could find a place in a (Russian led, Chinese paid) peace deal something good may be the end result of these terrible wars).

https://southfront.org/ypg-surrenders-manbij-to-syrian-army-official-statement/and https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russia-turkey-iran-to-meet-in-moscow-for-2019-syria-talks/

DJ-Turkey-still a NATO member- has better relations with Russia and Iran than with the US. Most EU countries need Russian (and Iranian) energy.
NATO may become an empty shell slowly-with most of its members going another road than the US.
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https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/28-december-a-video-showing-that-more-syrian-army-reinforcement,
https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/syria/syrian-military-takes-over-manbij-kurdish-held-town-bordering-turkey,
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/agreement-with-syrian-army-to-be-spread-across-eastern-euphrates-sdf-official/,
https://www.debka.com/russia-and-syria-threaten-to-fire-sa-5-missiles-into-central-israel-if-iaf-air-strikes-continue/,
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/12/syria-sitrep-army-to-regain-northeastern-territory-political-isolation-ends.html#

DJ-Most likely pro-Assad forces may take a few days to get a grip on the (over 600km) Turkish-Syria border-including east of the Euphrates-all the way to Iraq. Turkey will "limit its actions" but keep the pressure up.
Maybe a 10 kilometer zone south of the Turkey-border will see pro-Assad forces ? Even that would be a big job but also a major breakthrough !

https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/28-december-iraqi-pmu-targeting-town-of-albaguz-in-the-eastern pro-Iran-Iraq forces in Deir Ezzor region. https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iraqi-forces-begin-attacking-isis-inside-syria/

background:https://www.benzinga.com/news/18/12/12830996/how-a-wwii-agreement-allows-trucks-to-travel-from-china-to-europe-in-just-13-day?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=mixi&utm_campaign=benzinga Eur-Asian integration http://www.atimes.com/article/on-the-road-in-the-karakoram//?fbclid=IwAR0cnRgkzBZsT2eGNxblgbHo2Dxy2-DC1Hm4jZv1oOf4e0DURVZYsQnddHg

update:https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/28-december-american-troops-remain-in-manbij-syria-despite (after https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/28-december-inherent-resolve-despite-incorrect-information DJ-US confirmation of pro-Assad forces in Manbij-area.)
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/massive-convoy-of-turkish-backed-rebels-deploys-to-manbij-front-lines/ Pro-Turkish forces may move in some border area's-face Kurdish forces till pro-Assad forces can get there. Russia and Egypt trying to keep escalation as limited as possible. Arab countries do not want Turkey on Arab soil.

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-dec-28-2018-ypg-invites-syrian-army-to-manbij/ and https://southfront.org/turkish-backed-militants-march-towards-manbij/
(DJ-Kurds getting pushed out of the region-can choose between Turkey or Syria. Seem to choose Syria.)
https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/28-december-video-from-manbij-syria-tonight Kurds still in Manbij.https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-isis-terrorist-attack-kills-4-sdf-fighters-in-manbij/
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http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/3640-syrian-army-liberates-manbij-while-turkish-army-lays-in-wait-miles-away,
https://southfront.org/syrian-army-sends-reinforcements-to-manbij-amid-speculations-that-turkish-backed-militants-still-may-attack-town-photos/,
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-28/us-troops-out-syrian-army-manbij-handed-back-damascus-turkey-poised-invade

DJ-Since "Turkish backed" rebels/terrorists and IS (some of IS=Kurds) are not under "real control" (and US, France, Israel "play their own game" with possible false flags-Israel/US attacking pro-Turkish forces claiming Syria/Russia did it) time will tell how events will unfold. Erdogan and Putin will meet in Moscow tomorrow-dec 29)

[urlhttp://theduran.com/saudi-reshuffle-riyadh-signals-to-us-foes-that-its-ready-to-cooperate/[/url]="rebels" are without support-it is a matter of time before "the war is over".

https://www.debka.com/scrap-over-manbij-opens-door-for-russia-and-assads-troops-to-take-control-of-ne-syria/(DJ-I doubt DEBKA's view on Erdogan expecting any real deals with the US. Most likely Turkey was in contact with Russia and Iran. The Kurds had a choice; let pro-Assad forces take over or face the (full) Turkish army. US troops would not stop Turkey, Syria or Russia. DJ-It may turn out the US may leave behind some material when they do not move out fast. Russia may be the best protection for US forces-others "may be less patient")

Ukraine

http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/3639-intel-ukraine-appears-to-have-called-off-invasion-of-donbas DJ-With Poroshenko expected to lose the march elections nobody in his junta may be waiting for "more disasters". (Maybe after the elections more will get clear on who downed the MH19 flight. "The west" points its finger at Putin-independent experts claim the BUK-missile used was an older one-based on its shrapnel-not in (normal) use for several years in Russia, but still in use by the Ukraine. A not very likely scenario would be Russia using an old BUK to bring down the MH19-but for what motive ? Ukraine does need to claim "Russian agression" has a more likely motive. )
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DJ-When you have a debt based economy you will also have debt based wars (to get control/steal oil, gold, uranium etc.) https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201812291071077369-us-global-policeman/ US may not be able to finance endless, pointless, foreign wars.

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201812291071085623-us-syria-withdrawal-coalition/ War crimes of the "international (US led) coalition. A.o. Raqqa.https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-28/biggest-critics-trumps-syria-withdrawal-fueled-rise-isis

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201812291071084158-usa-commanders-reccomend-letting-kurds-keep-weapons/ DJ-Assad has no real choice, somehow he needs to integrate the SDF in the Syrian Arab Army.

https://southfront.org/turkey-france-and-u-s-are-plotting-to-hand-syrias-border-to-fsa/ The conflict between Kurds and Arabs in East Syria is still there.

https://www.rt.com/news/447634-manbij-kurds-turkey-us-syria/
US still in Manbij, but SDF in talks with Assad (and Russia, Egypt), north of Manbij pro-Turkish forces south and west of Manbij pro-Assad forces.
(One of the jobs any occupation army has when it is moving out is destroying evidence of "sensitive issues"-who they worked with, what weapons/logistics etc.)

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/59560 Not very clear who will be in contact with who on Syria. A high ranking Turkish delegation would go to Moscow and dec 29 have talks with Russia on Syria. Most likely "in the Syria region" Russia, Turkey, Iran will communicate. All parties have very limited room in talks. Erdogan-Turkey-needs Turkstream, Russian weapons and tourism, deals with Iran. Also Iran and (even) Russia need cooperation in/on Syria at this moment. (Most likely others https://southfront.org/saudi-arabia-sees-no-obstacles-for-syrias-reinstatement-in-arab-league-report/, Iraq, are included.)

It will be a very interesting day ! (And most of the talks will be in secret-if talks fail we may see military action-otherwise a sort of cease-fire with (pro)Turkey and pro-Assad forces/Kurds trying to improve positions. https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/us-senator-says-kurds-aligning-with-assad-in-manbij-is-major-disaster/)
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DJ; The Kurds may be repeating the Afrin story. https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrian-army-wont-enter-manbij-city-ypg/ while https://southfront.org/u-s-forces-withdraw-from-one-of-their-bases-in-syria/ and https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/turkey-continues-to-amass-troops-along-syrian-border/

DJ-With the US moving out, the Kurds possibly blocking cooperation with pro-Assad forces https://southfront.org/kremlin-confirms-syrian-army-deployment-in-manbij-as-more-troops-head-towards-city/ and https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrian-armys-4th-division-heads-to-manbij/-https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/turkey-to-work-with-iran-russia-to-achieve-settlement-in-syria/ may get "ugly" for the Kurds.

DJ-Since the Kurds had a choice (both in Afrin and now) between the Turkish or Syrian army-a "bad choice" (both in Afrin and now) may see Kurds losing territory. The Kurds are divided and do not stand a chance against a combination of Turkish and pro-Assad forces.

DJ-The history of the Kurds is one of being divided by themselves and making wrong choices. In the past both Iran and Turkey treated Kurds "inhumane"-the Kurdish minority in Syria was that small they only played a minor role. When the Kurds in Syria choose to not work with pro-Assad forces there is little reason for the pro-Assad forces to protect the Kurds for a Turkish invasion. Most likely Russia hoped for Kurdish cooperation and may try to avoid military action.

For the moment https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-29/us-helicopters-flying-over-manbij-confusion-reigns-turkey-and-russia-announceand https://www.rt.com/news/447698-syria-manbij-russia-turkey-talks/ the future of the Kurds may be with Russia and Turkey.

DJ-Most likely there will be limited military action till the Astana-group meets week 1 2019. Iran-Turkey-Russia will then decide on how to move on. Till that time Russia (and a.o. Egypt) may try to get the Kurds to cooperate at least somewhat with the Assad gouvernment-or face the consequences. A repeat of "Afrin" is still possible-with pro-Assad forces trying to get control on Idlib/NW Syria, leaving East Syria for Turkey to deal with. https://www.debka.com/mivzak/no-russian-ok-for-turkish-military-operation-in-syria/

In my opinion the Kurds should choose the "lesser of two evils"; the Kurds in Syria did deal with IS and could use that to become "part of Syrian forces" (just like Hezbollah is a main part of defense in Lebanon).
The US used the Kurds for their anti-Assad goal, Russia in the past used the Kurds in their "cold war" against NATO-Turkey and Iran under the Sjah.

A Kurdish State is a long term plan. Kurdish unity (with possibly 39 million Kurds) is an illusion. For the Syrian Kurds "respect"for their fight against IS could-for now-open doors in Damascus.

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The US insanity in Syria goes on; https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/01/syria-turkey-fails-in-idleb-is-unwilling-to-take-the-northeast.html DJ-Turkey is not in control in NW Syria/Idlib-by transporting pro-Turkish fighters from there to fight the Kurds in NE Syria NW Syria became-more or less-alquaida-controlled.
Turkey does not have the airpower or the military to go on full scale war against the Kurds. Still US/Bolton (and Israel) tries to keep the US forces in Syria while US/Trump (and a.o. Turkey) wants to get them out.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-05/sykes-picot-acid-us-considering-syria-partition-plan-amidst-troop-exit DJ-Another insane idea is "splitting East Syria up" in a Kurdish and Arab part-while historically those groups are mixed in the area. Does the US want to have the Kurds fight against the Arabs ?

The Kurds are now working with Russia (most likely not only in Syria, but maybe also Iraq, Turkey, Iran (???? DJ-Both Turkey and Iran have had conflicts with Kurdish groups. The CIA/NATO has been fighting Kurds in Turkey while supporting them in Syria and Iran. A "total solution" giving the Kurds some form of a "state like autonomy within Turkey, Iran etc. must be interesting for all.)

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/kurdish-forces-offer-to-surrender-its-zones-in-syria-for-autonomy-report/, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/turkey-allegedly-rejects-new-us-demand-to-abandon-russian-s-400-system/, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/arab-league-to-readmit-syria-preparation-procedure-underway-reort/, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/large-israeli-military-convoy-spotted-heading-towards-lebanese-border/, http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/3685-iran-to-deploy-naval-fleet-off-u-s-atlantic-coast

China

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-04/president-xi-directs-chinese-military-prepare-war and http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/3684-xi-jinping-says-taiwan-must-and-will-be-reunited-with-china
DJ-The US-China conflicts only escalates further, the tensions with Iran grow (fueled by a.o. Israel https://www.debka.com/bolton-in-israel-for-talks-on-syria-iran-and-chinese-tech-investment-in-israel/

Ukraine

https://southfront.org/eric-zuesse-mh17-turnabout-ukraines-guilt-now-proven/ DJ-"The west" can not support the Kiev-junta, (still may continu doing so ad absurdum)
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-04/escobar-maga-misses-eurasia-trainDJ Russia-India/Iran-China are working together-Japan and EU, Arab states simply only can follow.

The US made "Venezuela" crisis https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/video-brazil-now-deploying-army-to-venezuela-border could turn into a new American crisis with some countries still under US control, some trying to stay out of the conflict(s) and most welcoming EurAsian investments.

The present EU/US foreign ploicy is in the interest of a small elite and not backed by the EU/US citizens. At the end "we" will harvest the chaos we did spread.
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https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/india-launches-air-strikes-in-pakistan-major-attack
DJ-Of course the US/western goal is to disrupt EurAsia integration. What better way to start a war between India (backed historical by Russia) and Pakistan (backed by China).

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-25/irans-fm-zarif-abruptly-resigns-just-assad-makes-first-visit-iran-war-began,
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/shots-fired-at-colombian-police-by-venezuela-troops and https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/02/venezuela-no-the-responsibility-to-protect-does-not-apply.html
http://theduran.com/first-venezuela-now-nicaragua-bolton-says-ortegas-days-numbered-people-will-soon-be-free/
http://theduran.com/a-time-to-reflect-on-u-s-regime-change-adventures/:The most extreme ideology in the world today comes from four countries: America, Britain, France and Israel not forgetting the totally corrupt EU bureaucracy that exists in Brussels.

Focussing on these four country’s governments, we must demand change, which may well lead to revolutions.


DJ-Of course the US is not finished with their wars in the middle east and their attempt to liberate the oil in Venezuela.

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