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Trump’s GOP is looking to deeply cut food stamps — hitting his voters hard


oh well
like you couldnt see this coming ???
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Trump admin bids to save coal plant by forcing Arizona utility to buy its power


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/26/trump-admin-bids-to-save-coal-plant-by-forcing-arizona-utility-to-buy-its-power.html

PAGE, Ariz. –  Like many coal-fired plants across the country, the Navajo Generating Station in Arizona, which employs hundreds of workers, is at the brink of closure.

The flailing company is expected to be shut down next year once a utility firm takes over ownership.

But the Trump administration is vowing to save it – by possibly forcing nearby power companies to use its plant.


nothing like a Deep State controlled eKoNOmee Dead


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Defendants in diapers? Immigrant toddlers ordered to appear in court alone



dear God,this can't possibly be true ???
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[....... 'And if and when they are able to be re-united with their parents, those parents might not be there.]

Immigrants Trump sent to federal prisons are facing disease outbreaks


Absence of proof is not proof of absence.
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Trump gutted a federal program that provided funds for legal representation for detainees, so kids as young as eight months old will now have to represent themselves in immigration court. All heart...


"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.
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Originally posted by jacksdad jacksdad wrote:

Trump gutted a federal program that provided funds for legal representation for detainees, so kids as young as eight months old will now have to represent themselves in immigration court-


What surprises me is that any self respecting judge will go along with this. It is obviously a total travesty of justice but judges allow it to continue in their courts.
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Mar-a-Lago seeks permission to hire 40 more foreign workers on H-2 visas


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mar-a-lago-seeks-permission-to-hire-40-more-foreign-workers-on-h-2-visas/ar-AAzDHqn?li=BBnbfcL


LOL
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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/9/1779114/-Trump-s-longtime-personal-driver-files-lawsuit-for-backpay-after-25-years-of-unpaid-overtime

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Give the guy a break!  It's not as if Trump can afford it! Wink
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Trump's 'Spiritual Advisor' Says Jesus Wasn't 'An Illegal,' Okay?


https://crooksandliars.com/2018/07/trumps-spiritual-advisor-says-jesus-wasnt

yeah,this crooked piece of work is actually who Trump goes to for spiritual guidance
(he'd get better advice from a Ouija board LOL

she is on husband #3
and had an affair with TV "evangelist" Benny HinnDead


but ya know
Trump only picks "the best people" LOL
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Trump's economic policies are starting to kick in

Inflation jumps 2.9 percent in largest annual gain in 6 years


https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/inflation-jumps-29-percent-in-largest-annual-gain-in-6-years/ar-AAzYhUl?li=BBnbfcN

and gas is up by almost a buck a gallonDead

that alone is costing me almost $800 extra a year

add to all that the cost of everyday goods going up because of his trade war
and every middle class person will end up in the hole
thanks Trump
great job
but unfortunately the worst is yet to come
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more winning ???


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/12/1779953/-Trump-gulled-by-pharma-Pfizer-but-calls-it-a-win-anyway
As with every "deal" that Trump makes and touts with private industry, this is so much kabuki. He leans on a company publicly, they pretend to react, he tweets out "I WON" and then the next week the company announces that they're going to do what they were going to do before his interference, anyway. He ignores that part. Rinse and repeat.

FAILURE on EVERY level

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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:



Inflation jumps 2.9 percent in largest annual gain in 6 years





Okay a bit of perspective to go with that number.  I don't like inflation either but you do know... by historical norms that is a relatively low number.   Also the primary cause of our inflation is irresponsible government spending.   Every dollar they spend that they don't raise in taxes has a direct impact on inflation.    You can blame the last several administrations for this problem.

The fact that that this inflation is kicking in now... is actually a good sign.    It shows that the economy is turning around.   Generally speaking economic growth is the trigger for inflation while deficit spending is the cause.

Would you rather have nominal inflation but an even worse economy?

MTA: Funding personal consumption through credit also contributes to inflation but IMO government debt is a much bigger driver.
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When you take out credit it is as if money was counterfeited and it just materialized.   There is instant inflation even if you don't feel it yet.    When a person or a company takes out credit they will then either pay it off or go bankrupt....both outcomes are very deflationary, so the net resut is close to zero.   This is one of the big reasons why  it is important that we allow failing business to fail.   Creating moral hazard is inflationary.

When Government takes out credit if they EVER pay it off it will be with more debt.   The money is seldom used for economically productive uses.   It is as if they just turn on the printing press and throw it at the people.    The only way government can be deflationary is if the government defaults... but that would be a very bad day and I wouldn't want to be around.
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"the economy is turning around" ?????????????????????????????????????

Trump claims unemployment is less than 4%

how much "better" can it get ???? LOL

and SERIOUSLY ????

"an increase in inflation means the economy is turning around"  ????

do I REALLY need to explain that fallacy ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????

life for the average AMuRIkAn is going to get a lot worse under Trumps bumbling

wages are still flat,have been for decades
pension plans which the middle class depend on are being GUTTED
Rethugs are now going after Social Security and Medicare
gas prices are up 70cents to a dollar a gallon under Trump,
the trade war is forcing the prices of consumer goods UP,for example washing machine prices up 16%
and it is just beginning

and dont get me started on that tax decrease
propagandist Sarah Huckabee Sanders said during a WH press conference,and I quote
"the average American family will get back $4000"
well apparently I am not in an "average" family cause we aren't getting back anywhere near that amoung
and I do not know of one single family that is

accounting for the INCREASE in gas prices
the INCREASE in the cost of consumer goods
and the INCREASE in inflation
the average person is going to get hit HARD
sit down and do the math for your family,I did and the nunbers DON'T LOOK GOOD

Trump is either DEEP STATE in populist clothing
or he is a bumbling,stumbling,incompetent
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US budget deficit totals $74.9 billion in June



REPUBLICAN President
REPUBLICAN Senate
REPUBLICAN House

enough said

if they grab credit for any of the "good" things that happen
then they HAVE to assume responsibility for the BAD
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If you understand economics....  Yes inflation IS a sign of a strengthening economy.   It is impossible for prices to rise if people are not able to pay more.

Yes I am skeptical as our long  term economic outlook.    We have major structural issues that may lead to a dramatic collapse at some point....    but apparently it seems like Trump is kicking the can down the road just a bit.    I am being pleasantly surprised.    So far during Trump the economy has been MUCH better than I expected.   Even though I am still skeptical, because of the success he has already had,   we need to cut him some slack and give him some room to operate.    We might ALL be pleasantly surprised.
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just what about the economy is being strengthened ??????????????????????????????????????????
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Also Satori I am not a blind Trump or republican lover.   I know every policy is a mixed bag.   I don't like deficit spending by either democrats or republicans  however I do realize it is a VERY VERY difficult political problem to deal with.   When the right does wrong I will point it out.   However on this subject all I see is  irrational blind hate.   I am trying to be a rational middle road thinker.   If anyone else was president I think most here would share my views, but because many of you don't like Trumps personality, and have bought into the tremendous propaganda against him all I see is an orgy of irrational hate.  Some how Trump has a way of making people go crazy.   I guess now a days if you want to do the American thing and support the President  because he is mine and YOUR president and you want this country to succeed  YOU are the crazy person LOL.

To me saying we had a 75 billion dollar deficit doesn't really tell me much.   I want to know two things.... what is the over all trend?   Is the deficit as a percentage of GDP shrinking over time?   Is the money spend on economically productive projects?
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All I would suggest to the haters out there is this....    His term is up in two years.    You will not remove him from office before that.   You are delusional if you think otherwise.   Give his policies a chance.   Support him because he is the head of America and the free world.  When  you support him you support America.

If in a year and half candidate Trump reemerges.   And you have actually objectively weighed his presidency's effect on  your life and find it lacking... THEN and only THEN it is time for the vitriol.   Then it is time to remove him from office.  


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