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You Are Not Nearly Scared Enough about Ebol

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jacksdad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2014 at 5:15pm
Free range birds like the ones KiwiMum raises are relatively healthy and disease free. The store bought ones (get ready to look at chicken differently) are processed in such a way that they don't always die as they're hung upside down by their legs and dunked in a tank charged with electricity. The live ones are boiled, gutted, etc while conscious and consequently poop all over themselves and the equipment, which is unfortunate as many broiler hens in the States carry things like E.Coli in their gut.
Here's the best part - banned in Europe, chill tanks await the carcasses. Cold water which is supposed to add weight ($) to the birds as they sit in it for an hour becomes a fecal soup, which is why as many as 90% of all frozen birds test positive for fecal contamination outside and inside the carcass. Now you know why it's recommended that you disinfect every surface that chicken touches - because much of it is saturated with poop, and fecal contamination is used as a pretty accurate indicator of the presence of E. Coli.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Technophobe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2014 at 5:18pm
And I thought plucking one was unpleasant!  That is disgusting as well as cruel.
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Yep, and they're only about seven weeks old by the time they're ready to be slaughtered and processed.
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We've got a dozen with a quarter acre back yard to roam. Not huge at all but not a dog pen either. Can't have roosters so layers only. Well , some were roosters but they've since been sent as a message to Long Beach. (Most of you won't get that. Albert should. Sorry Albert.) I get it on the Factory Farming. Much can be said of most every meat at the store. I always wanted my own farm to grow and raise much of my own food but you need many acres to do that viably and full time and still an income. Maybe someday...
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