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    Posted: January 26 2020 at 7:14pm
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Sincerely, Albert.

Here is the List:


Vitamins
Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch
Milk – Powdered & Condensed
Flour, yeast & salt
Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
Tuna Fish (in oil)
Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
Rice – Beans – Wheat
Vegetable Oil (for cooking)
Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
Teas
Chewing gum/candies
Generators
Water Filters/Purifiers
Portable Toilets
Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 – 12 months to become dried, for home uses.
Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (CLEAR oil is best)
Coleman Fuel.
Ammunition
Guns
Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
Hand Tools
Charcoal, Lighter Fluid
Water Containers
Propane Cylinders
Survival Guide Book.
Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc.
Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder
Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty
Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
Garbage Bags
Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid)
Clothes pins/line/hangers
Coleman’s Pump Repair Kit
Fire Extinguishers
First aid kits
Batteries (all sizes)
Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
Matches. {“Strike Anywhere” preferred.)
Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
Insulated ice chests Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
Flashlights/Lightsticks & torches, “No. 76 Dietz” Lanterns
Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)
Garbage cans Plastic
Men’s Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
Cast iron cookware
Fishing supplies/tools
Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
Duct Tape
Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
Candles
Laundry Detergent (liquid)
Backpacks, Duffel Bags
Garden tools & supplies
Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
Bicycles…Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
Board Games, Cards, Dice
d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
Paper plates/cups/utensils
Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap
Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
Reading glasses
“Survival-in-a-Can”
Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog
Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)
Lumber (all types)
Wagons & carts
Cots & Inflatable mattress’s
Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
Lantern Hangers
Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
Coffee
Cigarettes
Wine/Liquors
Paraffin wax
Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.
Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
Medicine
Goats/chickens
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You found it!
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Good job... I couldn't find it anywhere.
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Hey, just ask everyone at work knows I get it done!!! Just that kind of girl! LOL! You need anything Albert just ask me I will find it for you.
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Have you got masks and hand sanitizer on that list?
You can't fix stupid.
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This is just a list of what disappears not exactly what you need foe a pandemic. I think Albert wanted it as a starter list that makes people think.
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It should probably be edited and refined sometime.
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oops. But as I look at the Admin post lol, we've been around since 11/16/2005?? Crazy… Getting old is no fun, but not that bad lol.

But ya sometime we have to revise the list.    
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The first thing to disappear is sanity. People are going to panic.

I say panic early and stay safe. Buy some long term canned foods. Fill the cars up with petrol. Get some face masks and goggles. Sensible stuff

Albert i think we are at, or very close to defcon 4.. This virus look like it could be unstoppable. There are creditable reports people are infected and don't know because the virus is a dosen't show up straight away.

They are all coming back from Chinese new year..

The panic alone will cause chaos.
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Cobbler Defcon 6 is the worst...we are at 5.
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Reading Albert’s “this is it” put me in gear. Ive never seen any premature alarmist post to make me doubt him. Always an appropriate amount of concern. (Thank you Albert) I’ve been reading and learning off and on on AFT for 9+ years. Ive prepped in stages. Today, I ordered medications that I would have never I imagined doing. Choosing meds over more food because I am now concerned about secondary infections and hospital viral exposure for something like an ear infection or a sinus infection, especially if waves last for 6 months. Trying to think of odds and ends. Things shipped from China that will not be available or we will not want to touch. Also trying to think of things that will have some use later use so I can ease my anxiety and credit card balance (mentioned in another post). Seems a bit surreal. Bought some chocolate and Oreos and started a “comfort cabinet” for treats and those things that sound good when sick, Sprite/7-up, ready made gelatin cups (I do not buy prepackaged processed foods often or soda). Last minute tasks like filling water containers after the first case in my local area, filling gas cans, making sure electronic devices like e-readers are charged (again, sanity and luxury thing to have). Last minute task lists started, if we have to SIP, like more fresh foods we buy weekly, some that would last longer like onions, carrots, potatoes, apples, lemons and more food staples. Anyone else have last minute list ideas?
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I had a list on Friday spent almost $600.00 and I am prepped! Most spent on meds I have used up or out of date. I purchase jello boxes but I have all of that stuff in #10 dehydrated/freeze dry. I have a lot of stuff! I have a few items to get if I really have to lock down.

I just purchased a new small shed to put more gas in from Amazon to replace a really small shed that holds only 3-.2.5
gallons of gas. I will keep at least 12 of those when I get the small shed. That would give me enough gas to be sure I can get anywhere in my area to get water and anything else I need.

hoosiermom22 use Stable in you gas so it will not go bad...gas will go bad.

If this looks like a long haul I am thinking of getting more wood for my stove soon. They have plenty just need to order it.
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Buy more chocolate. Store it in mason jars with O2 absorbers. It keeps it from oxidizing and keeps fresh for a very long time. But to me, chocolate is its own food group.
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I stocked up on medicine this week also and a few canned goods.
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Welcome back Penham....

Things must be getting interesting.......
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Thanks guys, I'm not very far away. I've been watching and keeping track on Facebook. I'm friends with several of you on Facebook.
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Excellent. Our Public FB group is exploding with newbs. I continuously post our AFT link there. :)   
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Gee guys Penham came back yesterday I think. I am so happy she is back here! I hope the newbs come over here and see what info we can help them with. I hope the people on FB are starting to prep with foods and water.
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Nutristore freeze dried diced chicken (about $40 for a #10 can) out of stock on Amazon right now. I placed an order about 4 days ago without a problem.
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Originally posted by hoosiermom22 hoosiermom22 wrote:

Nutristore freeze dried diced chicken (about $40 for a #10 can) out of stock on Amazon right now. I placed an order about 4 days ago without a problem.


Update as of 2/5/20 also low stock/ “only __ left” for the most popular/best rated /price #10 cans of others, or “will be in stock on____” for other staples like beef, cheese and eggs. I’ve just been monitoring supplies that would be the “first 100 to go” or things people may want to purchase online incognito or harder to find items. Post 911, post Katrina world, people can poke fun of prepping around the water cooler and they go home at night and run up their charge cards on Amazon ! Lol.
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This original post on this thread was created and placed here by Flumom - a VERY valuable member here of 15 years. We had as slight tech problem with username.

   
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I am going back over my list now and thinking about what we get from China, because it may disappear over the next few months. Things like:
Toothpaste
Toothbrushes
Floss
Any small electronics or home appliances
All types of clothing
Vitamins and medicines (discussed in other threads already)

Some things are not vital to survival, but if the supply chain is disrupted for 6-12 months, we may wish we stocked up. The list is pretty long. As one of our friends said in another thread...Get your Target orders in now!

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We probably have some time still.

Why not keep a diary of all the things you use this week?

Add candles/torches/lamps and some form of heating/cooking in case of outages. Everyone's list will be different, but that is the basis of your own preps.

That should reveal any holes in your planning.
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Regarding masks.....

I was consulting Infection Control Coordinator for one of the largest and newest hospitals in Chicago, seeking to safeguard immune-compromised organ transplant patients from infection.

There are many misconceptions about masks, and this was published today:

Bruce Ribner, MD, medical director of the Serious Communicable Diseases Unit at Emory University Hospital, said the two masks serve very different functions. A surgical mask, or procedural mask, is meant to protect the environment from the wearer.

"It's meant to keep the surgeon's respiratory issues away from a patient," Ribner explained. A surgical mask does a good job of trapping large droplets, and some aerosol transmission, he said. Many of the masks being worn in China, though, are not designed for medical use or to any standards and so their effectiveness in trapping droplets is unknown.

A respirator, such as an N95, fits tighter to the face and is meant to help protect the wearer from inhaling infectious droplets in the environment.
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I have both for both reasons.

Should things go south (I'm worried they might, but not sure they will) My friends and family will have to be quarrantined in my barn.

Guess who wears which one?
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As far as toothpaste goes, if you have a Lidl near you, they carry a toothpaste that is made in Germany. It's pretty good stuff and its not expensive at all...less than a dollar!
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I love lidl. Source of Tokaji - the best sweet white wine in the world. Cheap gravad lax, stuffed vine leaves, lightly smoked salmon, lactose free cat food (no accidents!) and cheap preps!

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#10 cans of eggs on Amazon gone for a few days, freeze dry meats literally shot up in price from one seller (in my cart) $45/can to >$100/can in the past 12 hours. Dry cans of butter powered now shooting up in price it looks or limited in availability. (Had both sitting in my cart). The prepping website sellers (beprepared.com, augason farms) all have things on back order and “longer than usual order processing” On there home pages. I suspect the cheese powders and milks to increase in price. So I encourage you if you had been planning on purchasing these type of staples to do so soon to avoid price gouging or panic buying shortages.
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Thanks for the head's up hoosiermomzz. I just realized I completely forgot to put in a small beprepared.com order for some things and you jogged my memory. Funny thing though.. there's a lantern in my cart and it doesn't seem to want to be deleted. When offices open, I'll call.
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https://www.11alive.com/article/news/health/disaster-prep-stores-running-out-of-supplies-preppers/85-0243036b-d205-478b-b562-9d9fe06233c7


Coronavirus outbreak causing disaster prep stores to run out of supplies
People are seeking out emergency preparedness stores to find food with long shelf lives and masks to protect against the virus.

Author: Hope Ford
Published: 9:55 PM EST February 14, 2020
Updated: 12:26 AM EST February 15, 2020
MARIETTA, Ga. — Inside TruPrep, a Marietta-based emergency preparedness store, people can shop for supplies for worse case scenarios. But the shelves that were once full are now emptying quickly because of the coronavirus.
“We just got two pallets in,” said co-owner Joey Smith as he points to a picked over food shelf. “Can’t even get it out on the shelves fast enough.”

Water filtration, first-aid and food are the top three items new TruPrep customers seek.  The only mask left in the store sits on a dummy, showcasing other gear people might want.
“About three weeks ago, I would say we had about 800 of those p-100, n-100 masks. We are completely sold out of them now,” said Smith.
Keeping items in stock is not the only issue. Any manufacturers are having a hard time keeping up with demand. And with a growing need for supplies in other countries, the United States is not the highest priority.
The last time a major virus caused a rush on his store- was the Ebola outbreak.
“With Ebola, it was relatively short-lived, and the attention burned off very quickly. But I think this is going to go longer than Ebola.”
Since so many customers kept asking about coronavirus updates, employees equipped the storefront with a monitor to display the current count.
Smith explained, “That uncertainty worries people even more.”
Uncertainty is why Daniel Medina wanted to be prepared, especially after hearing 200 people who recently returned to Georgia from China were self-monitoring for symptoms.
RELATED: Health officials: About 200 people in Georgia are 'self-monitoring' for coronavirus symptoms
“They’re self-monitoring and you’re pretty much asking them to say 'hey, I’m sick and I promise not to go anywhere,'” said Medina.
Smith said he know survivalists and preppers can sometimes get a bad rap.But, in the end, he said prepping for the coronavirus is no different than prepping for any natural disaster.
“It’s not that they’re hovering in their closets waiting for something bad to happen. They’re just taking action and they feel that taking action makes them feel a little bit better for the future
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Speaking of masks... If any of us get desperate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNjpH5lBZ8w&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR07OPlg-GokADKp957PngXoKDovSV9bahzAseIzoyupQfpI8CfLyLdHCIc
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Madness!

It would work - sort of - as a makeshift surgical mask.

Won't stand in for a respirator (n95 or ffp3) though. And that came from official sources? WOW!
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Yup. Official sources. That's why I posted it. I couldn't' believe it either!
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Another price inflation. On Amazon...paid $27 for a #10 (2lb) can of powder butter a week ago, today the price is $68.
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Amazon does price gouge when an item is popular. Best to go to sources like beprepared.com, augusonfarms.com and honeyville.com. They might be higher in price than you're accustomed to paying, but the prices are more stable.
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Originally posted by WitchMisspelled WitchMisspelled wrote:

Amazon does price gouge when an item is popular. Best to go to sources like beprepared.com, augusonfarms.com and honeyville.com. They might be higher in price than you're accustomed to paying, but the prices are more stable.


Yes agreed! My point is that ordered must be going up meaning people are paying attention! And hopefully preparing. Some of those direct sellers are also publishing high volumes and delays in processing. Hopefully those preparing now for potential disruptions, will leave some supplies on the selves at the local big box stores for those who have not.
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Ha, I went to purchase the Lowes masks someone posted on here the other day and they were all out, so Lowes gave me another option, a box for around $20 bucks, put them in my online cart and then started to check out...SHIPPING BY TRUCK (the only way they could come here according to the website) was $75! Oh heck no...

My son, who owns a building supply store, is getting me some. I didn't want to bother him (known as he worries about me too much) and ask, but after that I did.

He was upset, like why? why? and I said 'better to have them and not need them, then the other way around"
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Originally posted by Tabitha111 Tabitha111 wrote:

'Better to have them and not need them, than the other way around"
Exactly!
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Ordered my gloves and goggles from Amazon yesterday. I am somewhat familiar with surgery protocols (was a surgeon's aid - not a nurse- for 10 years in the Navy, then switched to Aviation..lol) as far as maintaining a sterile field.
I set up some wire cook's shelves in my extra bedroom and they are filling up fast with "things I might need and do need". Got in enough dog food to last a few months.
I want to have enough for son and dil, but he is so hard headed and also doesn't want me to "freak" out that I doubt he will listen to me anyways. Don't know what to do about it, except hope for the best, since they are both young
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This might be a silly question, but whats the difference between a n95 mask fabric, and a 2 micron vacuum bag fabric (aside from the dual chemicals added)?
The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself......FDR
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Originally posted by pheasant pheasant wrote:

This might be a silly question, but whats the difference between a n95 mask fabric, and a 2 micron vacuum bag fabric (aside from the dual chemicals added)?


Oh wow, I have no idea but that is a GREAT question!
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