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    Posted: January 23 2020 at 11:17am
Quote The first US case was confirmed on Tuesday. President Donald Trump said the situation was "totally under control" and that he trusted the information being provided by Chinese authorities


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While I have my opinions about this, we will see what time shows about this being under control.
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https://www.thenation.com/article/society/coronavirus-flu-epidemic-diseases/

You’ve probably read about the outbreak. But you may not know how badly prepared the United States is to counter a pandemic, as a result of bipartisan neglect of our public health infrastructure. The highlights: In 2012, the Obama administration reallocated billions of dollars away from the Prevention and Public Health Fund to make up for cuts to Medicare’s physician payments. In 2018, Congress cut the PPHF by another $1 billion, and the Trump administration then diverted additional millions away from the National Institutes of Health and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. In response, the CDC cut its global epidemic prevention efforts by 80 percent, radically downsizing its operations in 39 of the 49 countries it had a presence in, including China and Congo, currently the epicenter of Ebola. Last year, Trump proposed slashing the DHS budget by another 12 percent and the CDC budget by 10 percent.

The result of this dangerous downsizing: As the world stands on the verge of a new epidemic, the United States has 50,000 fewer local public-health employees than it did in 2008. Instead of stopping an outbreak early, America’s now reduced to taking the temperature of travelers at major airports.
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Yep, we’re screwed. Though in truth, there’s no amount of funding we could throw at a potentially major pandemic that would make much difference. Back in 1918, people knew how to survive if there was nobody else to look after them. Nowadays, Twitter goes down and half the of the civilized world curls up in the fetal position clutching their smartphones.

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I really like President Trump but his people and he are being misled. Nothing is under control but I think every President is so isolated they do not realize what is truly happening. So please don't blame Trump, I think the CDC is telling him they have it under control when it will never really be under control.
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Unfortunately, Trump is VERY motivated to pacify people due to the stock market, which has been faltering due to this situation.
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Yep I have to agree on that one Albert. If this does not burn itself out we are in trouble. I am hoping for a burn out.   However that being said I just spent over $800 in things I needed. Funny how a possible pandemic gets me to get my shed and basement in order.
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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

Funny how a possible pandemic gets me to get my shed and basement in order.


Me too 😆😆

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Without getting into the politics of it, I honestly doubt that anyone at the CDC is telling the administration that the outbreak is “totally under control”. I suspect that’s Trump’s take on the situation.
I guarantee the CDC is in panic mode right now behind the scenes.

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I agree, JD. If fact, it's not beyond Trump to tell them to downplay it for it now. I trade stocks, and belong to numerous groups. Trump is well known for hyping the stock market via tweets, and at the moment, the market is heading south, and Trump definitely doesn't like that.
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I have to agree with both of you on this. Any President would play this down to save the stock market. If the world really gets hit with lots of deaths all the markets are going to tank, just a fact. We just have to look at what we know and hope all of us can make good decisions as this develops.
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Originally posted by jacksdad jacksdad wrote:

Without getting into the politics of it, I honestly doubt that anyone at the CDC is telling the administration that the outbreak is “totally under control”. I suspect that’s Trump’s take on the situation.
I guarantee the CDC is in panic mode right now behind the scenes.



I couldn't have put it better myself.   
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I agree, FluMom.
Use your best judgment and stay safe, guys.

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-24/coronavirus-update-how-the-virus-is-affecting-global-business


For global corporations, Wuhan is an important hub. Of about 2,000 cities in China with factories and other facilities in Bloomberg's supply chain database, the city ranks 13th, with about 500 facilities. The province of Hubei has 1,016, making it seventh of 32 such jurisdictions. U.S.-based companies have 44 facilities there, and European ones about 40, the data show. Many plants are in the auto and transportation industries, and big
names include PepsiCo Inc. and Siemens AG

This is just for Hubei prefecture, How many across China will be impacted.
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Excellent point. If a major pandemic were to hit and compromise our supply lines, that’s when we’d see the real threat a virus can present to our way of life. Even with a really nasty bug, your odds of surviving are overwhelmingly in your favor. But if the shelves start to go bare (or God forbid, the lights go off and the faucets run dry), that’s when we’ll see how dire things can get.

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Water is the biggest problem for me. I will have to save my gas to go 2 miles get water out of a river and then sanitize it. LOL Albert said something that jogged my memory I have water cubes that I can put in my car to get water and use the clean ones to sanitize all the water in. I have so much I forget what I have...lol!
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I’m the same way, FluMom. I’m going through my garage, and I’m very pleasantly surprised at what I’ve put aside. I’m short on space so things are scattered all over, but I’m not seeing too many gaps.



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I'm obsessive! There are always too many gaps!
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guys, lets get real. Trump is a man who is not very smart. He is also being misled by china. We are woefully unprepared for anything. If it comes here, we will have at least 3 million deaths. 16 million in hospitals and lots more infected. China is not being honest with the world.
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Trump is just like all other Presidents who are trying to keep people from panicking and the stock markets stable (not happening) but he is smart just trying to keep it together for us. This is not the time to be critical it is time to pull together and help each other.
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