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Altered Receptor Binding in H5N1 Bird Flu in Indo

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Wow Dlugose...you seem easily annoyed from the few posts I've read of yours...
 
I posted a question but don't see it here.  Laymans terms...has the 2,6 mutation occured? 
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Nikita, yes
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Thanks for the feedback Nikita.  I guess I will have to just develop more acceptance about people doing things that I think are counterproductive to the benefit of all.  I'll try posting less for a while, and contemplating more why I get reactive over large losses of life.  I know it has something to do with surviving Vietnam.

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Originally posted by Dlugose Dlugose wrote:

Thanks for the feedback Nikita.  I guess I will have to just develop more acceptance about people doing things that I think are counterproductive to the benefit of all.  I'll try posting less for a while, and contemplating more why I get reactive over large losses of life.  I know it has something to do with surviving Vietnam.

 
Dlugose,
 
We are all here to help each other out.. I always appreciate your posts...
 
As you point out in your reference to Vietnam... we all have life experiences and or training that changes our perspective.  I have my own and can relate on some level to yours!
 
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Dlugose,
I for one like to read your posts, and would hate it if you slowed down. You, Jhetta and numerous others work dilligently to bring valid information to this forum and then take the time to spell it out for those of us who are less knowledgable in that field. YES it IS appreciated, and we are on the count down, that much I'm sure we can all agree on. We need every last person here with the ability to share technical info , please don't let the forum P@ss you off so you don't post. It would be a bad thing! Jo
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Dlugose,
 
Please don't stop!  This is all very confusing to me.  That is why I frequently post an article with little to no comment about it.  I rely on people like you and all the others to help me understand it.
 
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I didn't mean any offense either...just feedback from two back-to-back readings of your posts, you seemed a little upset in both. 
 
Certainly don't stop posting, but do take a deep breath.  Sounds like you've been through a lot and you don't want a web forum to get the old heart pumping...we've all been annoyed once or twice and the best thing to do is take this and all else with a grain of salt.  Certainly not worth our health to get upset about it.  Lots of good info here...post on!
 
 
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DOH...so I've read good and bad news on this virus today.  This 2,6 mutation has occured, but it seems the virus virulence is getting weaker.  But then I read a pandemic is emminant anyhow...so back to the bad news. 
 
Jhetta, I read in another thread you believe it will weaken - still your view?
 
 
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Originally posted by Nikita Nikita wrote:

DOH...so I've read good and bad news on this virus today.  This 2,6 mutation has occured, but it seems the virus virulence is getting weaker.  But then I read a pandemic is emminant anyhow...so back to the bad news. 
 
Jhetta, I read in another thread you believe it will weaken - still your view?
 
 
 
Nikita,
 
I "hope" but do not necessarily believe or not belive it will weaken.  There are just to many unknowns.
 
Also we do not know just how wide spread the SA 2,6Gal has become... it may have occured in a few isolated instances... we need more info!
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Where are you Dr. Niman when we need you to help us sort this out??Cry
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If alpha 2,6 specificity, coupled with PB2 E627K are co-circulating widely in the Jakarta area, then increased human-to-human transmission would be expected, which may also be linked to the novel cleavage site found in human isolates in the Jakarta area.
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The 1918–19 influenza pandemic began, in some parts of the world, with mild outbreaks in the spring of 1918. In the fall of that year, a lethal wave swept the globe. Outbreaks occurred in early September in North America, Europe, and Africa and spread rapidly, so that the disease had peaked and declined worldwide by the end of December (1–4). Many areas had an additional wave of the disease in the early months of 1919. In most communities, the fall wave of the pandemic lasted approximately l month, with 25% to 30% of the population experiencing symptomatic disease. Clinically, epidemiologically, and pathologically, the disease was remarkably uniform, suggesting that similar viruses were causing disease worldwide (5). To assess the homogeneity of the 1918 pandemic influenza virus, partial hemagglutinin (HA) gene sequences were determined for strains from five cases, including two newly identified samples from London, United Kingdom. The strains show 98.9% to 99.8% nucleotide sequence identity. One of the few differences between the strains maps to the receptor-binding site of HA, which suggests that two receptor-binding configurations were co-circulating during the pandemic.

The results suggest that in the early stages of a pandemic, mutations that occur during replication do not become fixed so that a uniform consensus strain circulates for some time
 
 
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