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    Posted: July 06 2020 at 2:08pm

hoping to hear from some of our Australia people on how things are going there.  How is COVID and how are your restrictions going or not going?  Also, when exactly is your flu season?  

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All good on this side of the continent.......

Here in Perth WA

Near normal,

No community transmission,

Any cases we have are returning citizens....

We have done real well....

The eastern states not doing so good, 

We are in our flu season now, or just coming into it, 

I think the uptake of the flu shot, and social distancing,we might have a mild one here,

We are opposite to you, in the northern hemisphere,

so June 25th is the 6 month our winter, 

we just had our winter solstice 

you just had your summer solstice.....

And the bath  water goes down the plughole opposite to yours......lol



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Please do me a favor and keep us updated on how your flu season goes!  Feel free to private email me on  here or at rockinroni2@yahoo.com

I know we follow you guys in flu season, just wasn't sure when it started.  I am anxious to see how it goes and hope for the best for you! glad to hear you all faired well with COVID.

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Any sign of mutated swine flu? Read in CNBC: https://apple.news/ARubi1pMZShu-ArWFYclrcg

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Yes will be interesting to see what happens,

There has been a high 

Flu vaccine uptake this year, 

and with our borders shut, we might not have a flu season......

Not worried about Mutant swine flu.....

At the moment.....

WA is shut....lol


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ABC News: Nearly 200 new coronavirus infections recorded in Victoria.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-07/victoria-coronavirus-cases-rise/12428704

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thanks for updating us Carbon!  DO you foresee what is happening in other parts coming to your area?

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85% + of  people want our border kept tight shut.....

(We are the most isolated city in the world)

So I doubt and very much hope we don't see anything like what's happening over in Victoria.......



Perth is one of the most isolated major cities in the world. The nearest city with a population of more than 100,000 is Adelaide, over 2,100 km (1,305 mi) away. Perth is geographically closer to both East Timor (2,800 km or 1,700 mi), and Jakarta, Indonesia (3,000 km or 1,900 mi), than to Sydney (3,300 km or 2,100 mi).
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Just on our news 

Only 525 international arrivals allowed into Western Australia per week....

Then in quarantine for 2 weeks in  hotel under police guard.....

Yes we are taking it seriously.......

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Melbourne just went into lock down 6 weeks. Good move!!

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Should have never happened....

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Heads will roll......

Cost is enormous.....

$1 billion a week.....

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ABC News: Number of returning travellers allowed to enter Australia could be restricted as states carry coronavirus quarantine burden.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-08/scott-morrison-may-reduce-international-arrivals-coronavirus/12433896

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I guess I will have to cross Australia off my list of countries to visit:

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This could get interesting........


PerthNow: Western Australia’s closed border during coronavirus pandemic goes to Federal Court.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/western-australias-closed-border-during-coronavirus-pandemic-goes-to-federal-court-ng-b881602721z

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Melbourne is ran by a complete idiot.

Leftist idiot! Dan Andrews.

He turned down assistance from the military when they were struggling. NOW WE HAVE A PROBLEM!!

This is the same idiot did a "belt and road" deal with the Chinese communist party.


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  So sad for you

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ugh.....I swear, all of humanity has just gone mad!  the US is not doing well at all!

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Hey Cobber,

One of my Clients, is an out and out Liberal,

He said the other day he would vote for McGowen (Labor),because of his handling of this pandemic.....

I said can I have that in writing....lol

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Those poor people locked into that tower block in Melbourne. I'm sure that's illegal. We saw them on the news last night. 

Here in NZ, we've had to stop selling plane tickets to returning kiwis because so many are trying to come in, we can't quarantine them all. Every week increasing numbers are trying to relocate to live back here and they are estimating up to 1 million Kiwis live overseas, and our population back home is only 5 million. Can you imagine the pressure that would put on housing stock and rental stock if they all came home? 

No new tickets will be sold for 3 weeks, and people who already have them may be bumped off flights if quarantine spaces are not available for them.

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The sort of action that Australia and New Zealand are bringing in to slow the intake of returning citizens to the capacity of the quarantine centres sounds reasonable, but I know that here it would fall foul of the law here, where the Finnish Constitutional law guarantees the right of all citizens to return to their home country.  

The current closed boarder between Sweden and Finland is actually open for any returning Finnish citizens.  This has also lead to a lot of people with Swedish passports who now work in Finland to take out Finnish citizenship [reversing some of the mass exodus westward in the aftermath of WWII (and all the war payments to USSR].

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ABC News: The Melbourne school at the centre of one of Australia's biggest coronavirus clusters.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-09/al-taqwa-college-coronavirus-covid19-cluster-melbourne-truganina/12437584

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ABC News: WA tightens rules for arrivals from Victoria amid worsening coronavirus outbreak.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-09/mandatory-covid-testing-for-vic-arrivals-into-wa-amid-outbreak/12438012

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Crap!  Things have gotten worse in the US today too with 3 states reporting highest death rate since the start.  News reporters local and national, the board of directors, etc. all doing virtual work and calls yet they are planning the kids return to school.  Its nuts here right now!  Did you see the new outbreak in China?  that sure resembles the 1918 second wave.  Ugh...

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I'm in Oklahoma, one of the state's getting worse, also one of the state's that opened early. People here aren't wearing masks, saying it takes away their rights,  blah, blah, blah, it's ridiculous. So we just keep getting worse and worse. 

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Hey Pen!  Yes, here too.  Our governor just said he wasn't putting a state wide mask law into effect just yet because we have been doing well but we are starting to trend bad.  Well on his post a bunch of people said they will NOT have someone tell them what they are and are not allowed to do and will not wear a mask in public.  Half of Americans are convinced this is some kind of political conspiracy so refuse to wear masks.  Whats it going to hurt to be on the safe side?  I just don't get it!

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I have to, the experience here is totally different,

Even though we have had no community transmission,people still socially distancing 

Some peeps wear masks,no one says anything.....

On pubic transport everyone sits/stands  with good space between,i even seen a lady ask a guy if it was OK to sit next to him as there was no spare seats.

I'm actually very proud of my fellow

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All good on this side of the continent.......

Here in Perth WA

Near normal,

No community transmission,

Any cases we have are returning citizens....

We have done real well....


It means my theory is right!

Sniffing petrol kills all viruses.

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Telegraph.co.uk: A postcard from Perth, where Covid-19 doesn't exist.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/oceania/australia/articles/perth-australia-no-covid/

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Originally posted by EdwinSm, EdwinSm, wrote:

The sort of action that Australia and New Zealand are bringing in to slow the intake of returning citizens to the capacity of the quarantine centres sounds reasonable, but I know that here it would fall foul of the law here, where the Finnish Constitutional law guarantees the right of all citizens to return to their home country.  

The current closed boarder between Sweden and Finland is actually open for any returning Finnish citizens.  This has also lead to a lot of people with Swedish passports who now work in Finland to take out Finnish citizenship [reversing some of the mass exodus westward in the aftermath of WWII (and all the war payments to USSR].

Here in NZ, any Kiwi citizen can return from overseas, but no one else. The problem we're having is that as the rest of the world gets worse, more and more kiwis are wanting to come home and in greater numbers than our guarded quaratine can handle. So far 30,000 have returned and we can quarantine 6,700 at a time under the watch of the Army.  So now they are being limited and allowed in when there is a quarantine space allocated to them. 

Unfortunately the huge numbers mean that non citizens or permanent residents can't come in except under special license. So even if you have a valid work visa, you can't come in. Preference is being given to Kiwis, and rightly so. Exceptions are being made but very rarely. A number of film crews have arrived and the Americas Cup teams are coming in but all these are chartering their own planes and paying for their quarantine and are highly motivated to quarantine properly. 

Almost every night we hear of people with work visas being stuck overseas and still paying rent here but they were out of the country when the lockdown began. I have no sympathy for them. There was plenty of warning and only an idiot would have gone overseas at the beginning of March, which is when these people went on holiday. Obviously they had it booked in advance and had paid for it and didn't want to lose their money but they are paying a very high price now for that stupidity.

We've caught 25 cases at the border in the last 3 weeks, and all of them are now in isolation until cleared of the virus. We currently have no cases on the streets so we're not social distancing at all but living life as normal except we can't fly overseas. It's not surprising that all these Kiwis want to come home to normality. That, plus it's great being a KIwi and living here!!!

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Yes Kiwimum, You very lucky living in such a beautiful place, 

We lived it when we visited,

Lake Tekapo,

fantastic.....

I'd move there tomorrow... ..

Mind we live in in a Great place..... 

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Originally posted by KiwiMum KiwiMum wrote:

We currently have no cases on the streets so we're not social distancing at all but living life as normal except we can't fly overseas. 

How apt. A Kiwi is a bird that cannot fly.   

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Originally posted by roni3470 roni3470 wrote:

Carbon, I wasn't able to read that article because you have to subscribe to read it:(

It was just saying how well we've done over here......

Our "isolation"

 is the key.....

Let's just hope we keep our borders sealed......

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ABC News: Expert highlights key differences in Melbourne and Sydney coronavirus clusters as NSW works to avoid second lockdown.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-14/coronavirus-clusters-melbourne-sydney-as-second-lockdown-looms/12449730

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Gotcha.  As I am sitting here reading todays updates, they just said on the news that a man in Utah died while in line in his car to get a COVID test.  That is messed up!  In the US our testing is now at a 7-9 day delay.  So these people are going about their business for 7-9 days until they get their test results, potentially infecting others if they are positive.  Really worried about the US!

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ABC News: Analysis: We're left in an impossible position as two opposing positions emerge in Australia.

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Herald Sun: Medical experts call for stage four restrictions as Victoria records 428 new cases, three more deaths.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/coronavirus/lockeddown-victorians-to-pay-if-they-stray-from-home/news-story/f65b0276d7e0c8cbe614de357060ef3b

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Things go pear shaped quick......

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So Perth: Derby Beers For Mark McGowan At The Start Of The 3rd Quarter.

https://soperth.com.au/derby-beers-for-mark-mcgowan-41716

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Wow that happened quickly. The trouble is that a proportion of Australians (the younger sector of society) are just not taking it seriously. When we were all at home under level 4 restrictions, on our news we were watching you guys fighting it too but instead of empty beaches, they were packed. The young might not get the symptoms in the main, but they pass it on. 

I really don't know what you can do other than get really draconian with enforcing a complete lockdown, and arrest anyone who doesn't comply. It's a bugger of a situation.

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SBS News: 'It's ludicrous': The stranded Australians who now have to pay thousands for hotel quarantine to come home.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/it-s-ludicrous-the-stranded-australians-who-now-have-to-pay-thousands-for-hotel-quarantine-to-come-home

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I know the more we see over here the more we want our borders kept strict......


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