Click to Translate to English Click to Translate to French  Click to Translate to Spanish  Click to Translate to German  Click to Translate to Italian  Click to Translate to Japanese  Click to Translate to Chinese Simplified  Click to Translate to Korean  Click to Translate to Arabic  Click to Translate to Russian  Click to Translate to Portuguese  Click to Translate to Myanmar (Burmese)

PANDEMIC ALERT LEVEL
123456
Forum Home Forum Home > Main Forums > Latest News
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Bird flu: is this the next pandemic?
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Tracking the next pandemic: Avian Flu Talk

Bird flu: is this the next pandemic?

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
KiwiMum View Drop Down
Chief Moderator
Chief Moderator
Avatar

Joined: May 29 2013
Status: Offline
Points: 29670
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KiwiMum Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Bird flu: is this the next pandemic?
    Posted: November 05 2022 at 1:34pm

I read this article in the UK's Daily Mail today and thought are they preparing us for the next pandemic that they are intending to release?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11392653/Health-chiefs-carrying-emergency-drills-bird-flu-jumps-humans.html


Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts.
Back to Top
roni3470 View Drop Down
Adviser Group
Adviser Group
Avatar

Joined: August 30 2006
Location: Colorado
Status: Offline
Points: 5390
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roni3470 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2022 at 11:27am

I am hoping no one is stupid enough to release that because they wouldn't be able to even protect themselves or people they love from it!

NOW is the Season to Know

that Everything you Do

is Sacred
Back to Top
KiwiMum View Drop Down
Chief Moderator
Chief Moderator
Avatar

Joined: May 29 2013
Status: Offline
Points: 29670
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote KiwiMum Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2022 at 11:38am

Originally posted by roni3470 roni3470 wrote:

I am hoping no one is stupid enough to release that because they wouldn't be able to even protect themselves or people they love from it!

All we need is some sad disenfranchised person who would like to see chaos unleashed and everyone else reduced to misery, and hey presto! we have a global disaster. If someone does intentionally release it, it will be someone who doesn't have anyone in their life to protect.

Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts.
Back to Top
roni3470 View Drop Down
Adviser Group
Adviser Group
Avatar

Joined: August 30 2006
Location: Colorado
Status: Offline
Points: 5390
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roni3470 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2022 at 3:02pm

Valid point and unfortunately, you find a lot of loners in the labs so in reality it could happen!  Scary!

NOW is the Season to Know

that Everything you Do

is Sacred
Back to Top
Dutch Josh View Drop Down
Adviser Group
Adviser Group


Joined: May 01 2013
Location: Arnhem-Netherla
Status: Offline
Points: 95327
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dutch Josh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2022 at 2:17am

H5N1 is allready a [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzootic[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzootic ;

panzootic (from Greek παν pan all + ζόιον zoion animal) is an epizootic (an outbreak of an infectious disease of animals) that spreads across a large region (for example a continent), or even worldwide. The equivalent in human populations is called a pandemic.

A panzootic can start when three conditions have been met:

  • the emergence of a disease new to the population.
  • the agent infects a species and causes serious illness.
  • the agent spreads easily and sustainably among animals.

A disease or condition is not a panzootic merely because it is widespread or kills a large number of animals; it must also be infectious. For example, cancer is responsible for a large number of deaths but is not considered a panzootic because the disease is, generally speaking, not infectious. Unlike an epizootic, a panzootic covers all or nearly all species over a large surface area (ex. rabies, anthrax). Typically an enzootic or an epizootic, or their cause, may act as a potential preparatory factor .[

DJ [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzootic#Persistence_of_H5N1_Avian_Influenza[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzootic#Persistence_of_H5N1_Avian_Influenza linking a history of pandemics on "loners in labs" may be part of the problem...NOT the way out....H5N1 at least has been around for two decades...

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics history is full of pandemics...no labs-or loners- needed....

We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down