Click to Translate to English Click to Translate to French  Click to Translate to Spanish  Click to Translate to German  Click to Translate to Italian  Click to Translate to Japanese  Click to Translate to Chinese Simplified  Click to Translate to Korean  Click to Translate to Arabic  Click to Translate to Russian  Click to Translate to Portuguese  Click to Translate to Myanmar (Burmese)

PANDEMIC ALERT LEVEL
123456
Forum Home Forum Home > Main Forums > Latest News
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Bird flu viruses sent to unsuspecting labs
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Tracking the next pandemic: Avian Flu Talk

Bird flu viruses sent to unsuspecting labs

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
Guests View Drop Down
Guest Group
Guest Group
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Bird flu viruses sent to unsuspecting labs
    Posted: February 25 2009 at 7:56pm
 
By Medical Reporter, The ******
Officials are trying to get to the bottom of
how vaccine manufacturer Baxter International Inc. made an experimental vaccine contaminated with the H5N1 avian flu virus and then distributed it to an Austrian company
That company, Avir Green Hills Biotechnology, then disseminated the material to subcontractors in the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany. Authorities in the four European countries are looking into the incident, and their efforts are being closely watched by the World Health Organization and the European Centre for Disease Control.

Though it appears none of the 36 or 37 people who were exposed to the contaminated vaccine became infected, the incident is being described as "a serious error" on the part of Baxter, which is on the brink of securing a European licence for an H5N1 vaccine. That vaccine is made at a different facility, in the Czech Republic.

"For this particular incident ... the horse did not get out (of the barn)," Dr. Angus Nicoll of the ECDC said from Stockholm.

"But that doesn't mean that we and WHO and the European Commission and the others aren't taking it as seriously as you would any laboratory accident with dangerous pathogens - which you have here."

Accidental release of a mixture of live H5N1 and H3N2 viruses - if that indeed happened - could have resulted in dire consequences. Nicoll said officials still aren't 100 per cent sure the mixture contained live H5N1 viruses. But given that ferrets exposed to the mixture died, it likely did.

H5N1 doesn't easily infect people, but H3N2 viruses do. They are one of two types of influenza A viruses that infect people each flu season.

If someone exposed to the mixture had been co-infected with H5N1 and H3N2, the person could have served as an incubator for a hybrid virus able to transmit easily to and among people. That mixing process, called reassortment, is one of two ways pandemic viruses are created.

Research published last summer by scientists at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control found that in the laboratory, H5N1 and H3N2 viruses mated readily. While less virulent than H5N1, a number of the offspring viruses appeared to retain at least a portion of the killing power of their dangerous parent.

Baxter International, which is based in Deerfield, Ill., said the contamination was the result of an error in its research facility in Orth-Donau, Austria.

The facility had been contracted by Avir Green Hills to make what Baxter is calling "experimental virus material" based on human H3N2 viruses. The batch was to be used for testing in animals only.

Avir Green Hills said in an email that it took possession of the material in late December. It later sent the material to the sub-contractors. The email said the material was stored and handled throughout under high biosafety conditions.

Alarm bells rang in early February when researchers at the Czech sub-contractor inoculated ferrets with the material and the animals promptly died. Baxter learned about the problem on Feb. 6, Christopher Bona, Baxter's director of global bioscience communications, said from Deerfield.

Ferrets are susceptible to human flu strains, but they don't die from those infections. Preliminary investigation found the material was contaminated with H5N1 flu virus, which is lethal to ferrets.

Nicoll said the fact the ferrets died supports the working assumption that there were live H5N1 viruses in the material Baxter produced.

Bona said Baxter has identified how the contamination happened and has taken steps to ensure it doesn't happen again. He said Austrian authorities audited Baxter's Orth-Donau research operations after the problem came to light and are satisfied with the steps the company has taken.

Baxter is the only flu vaccine manufacturer to work with wild type flu viruses, felt to be more dangerous than the altered and attenuated (weakened) viruses other manufacturers use.

The company uses what is known as BSL3 level precautions in all its vaccine research facilities, Bona said. (Researchers at the U.S. CDC use BSL3-plus biocontainment when working with H5N1 viruses, a spokesperson for the agency said.)

People familiar with biosecurity rules are dismayed by evidence that human H3N2 and avian H5N1 viruses have somehow co-mingled in the Baxter research facility. That should not be allowed to happen, a number of experts insisted.

The company isn't shedding much light on how it did.

"It was a combination of just the process itself, (and) technical and human error in this procedure," Bona said. When asked to elaborate, he said to do so would give away proprietary information about Baxter's production process.

Bona said when Baxter realized its error, it helped the various companies destroy the contaminated material and clean up their facilities. And staff who had been exposed to the contaminated product were assessed and monitored by infectious diseases doctors. They were also offered the antiviral drug oseltamivir (Tamiflu).

Baxter's error is reminiscent of a 2005 incident where a U.S. manufacturer of kits used by laboratories to test their detection capabilities included vials of H2N2 virus in several thousand proficiency kits. H2N2, the virus that caused the 1957 pandemic, has not circulated since 1968 and is thought to be a prime candidate to cause the next pandemic.

That mistake, discovered by Canada's National Microbiology Laboratory, set authorities around the world scrambling to retrieve and destroy the vials of virus, which had been sent to labs in 18 countries.

 
Back to Top
abcdefg View Drop Down
Valued Member
Valued Member


Joined: September 19 2008
Status: Offline
Points: 578
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote abcdefg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2009 at 9:31pm

THIS IS HUGE. IT NEEDS TO BE SHOUTED FROM THE ROOFTOPS.

NOT BECAUSE IT IS OUT THERE, IT WOULD APPEAR THEY HAVE CAUGHT IT.
 
 
THE FACT THAT IT COULD HAVE HAPPENED IS WHAT IS HUGE. WHY WERE THEY USING LIVE VIRUS?
 
WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE?
 
THIS COULD HAVE MEANT THE END OF OUR WORLD AS WE KNOW IT.
 
NO ONE CAN LET THIS DIE WITHOUT GETTING ANSWERS. TALK ABOUT NOT EVER MAKING THIS MISTAKE AGAIN.
 
PRAISE GOD THAT THIS DID NOT HAPPEN. PRAY TO GOD THAT IT WAS A LEGITAMATE MISTAKE IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE THOSE WHO HAVE SUCH RESPONSIBILITY COULD MAKE SUCH A HUGE MISTAKE THAT COULD HAVE WIPED OUT AS MUCH AS EIGHTY PERCENT OF THE ENTIRE WORLDS POPULATION.  THIS KIND OF MISTAKE IS CRIMINAL.  EVERYONE HAS SEEN THE TYPE OF SECURITY IN THESE LABS, WE NEED ANSWERS ON HOW THIS HAPPENED. HOW WAS THIS SECURITY BREACHED???????????????????????????????
Back to Top
Guests View Drop Down
Guest Group
Guest Group
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2009 at 9:56pm
abcdef- I think it's huge too.  It is as if vaccine wars are going on and there is a rush to the finish line, and that may be why the serious error happened by mistake.  Also Greed.   The batch  with the live bird flu virus and H3N2 mix was shipped out of Illinois, (Bloomberg.com)  Reminds me of a Frankenstein movie.
 
The yahoo article above is no longer posted on Yahoo. However, I found the updated article below this evening in yahoo news
 
Baxter admits contaminated seasonal flu product contained live bird flu virus

The company that released contaminated flu virus material from a plant in Austria confirmed Friday that the experimental product contained live H5N1 avian flu viruses

"But what remains unanswered are the circumstances surrounding the incident in the Baxter facility in Orth-Donau."

"It was live," Christopher Bona said in an email.

People familiar with biosecurity rules are dismayed by evidence that human H3N2 and avian H5N1 viruses somehow co-mingled in the Orth-Donau facility. That is a dangerous practice that should not be allowed to happen, a number of experts insisted.

Baxter hasn't shed much light - at least not publicly - on how the accident happened

Full Article Link:http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090227/health/health_contaminated_flu_vaccine_3

Back to Top
abcdefg View Drop Down
Valued Member
Valued Member


Joined: September 19 2008
Status: Offline
Points: 578
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote abcdefg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 4:06pm
Norein,
I have had a sick gut feeling, I believe the premonition is from God that this H5N1 virus was going to be deliberately launched by someone.
I guess the idea that the someone would be American makes me sick. I have to believe that this has been done by someone in that company or someone who gained access to that company. That makes one wonder about their secuirty at the very least.
If the worldy powers that be, want a large amount of us dead, there is not much we can do about it. There is just too much power and too much money involved.
The only thing that can stop them is the Power of God himself. It would seem that he has raised his mighty hand and protected his people.
People do not seem to be getting how serious this is, I have suggested that everyone send this news on to their senators which is easy to find their email address, their local newspapers, their friends everyone needs to know and perhaps it will be stopped. Perhaps.
IMO a lot of money and time have been put into developing this virus. Yes, I believe it was developed and that this news has been hyped preparing people for the eventual launch of this disease.  A lot of money is bound to be made on a vaccine. A large portion of the population would also die, which so many fools seem to think is nessecary for the worlds enviroment.
A global catastrophe such as the spread of a disease of this nature with the kill power of H5NI would result in a completely different world then we now live in. A new world order would be born.
Those people involved in this are not Christian by any stretch of the imagination. In fact they hate Christians and all that Christians represent. Anyone who could do such a thing as deliberately put out a killer virus of this magnitude does the work of lucifer in his battle to control this planet.
Back to Top
hollyann View Drop Down
Guest Group
Guest Group
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hollyann Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 4:55pm
the  work of lucifer? maybe lucifer himself--- I can not beleive this was not done on purpose....
Back to Top
abcdefg View Drop Down
Valued Member
Valued Member


Joined: September 19 2008
Status: Offline
Points: 578
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote abcdefg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 11:51pm
Holly, Praise God the media is getting it and catching on. This was a huge gaf that is truly impossible to have been a mistake. I think a lot of people do not quite understand what could have happened here.
It would have been a worse tragedy then every other tragedy rolled up and put together has this live virus been injected into humans with the ability to spread easily.
People say there is a 65%- 80% death rate now, but that is when they have one patient and the whole staff working 24/7 with all the best meds and ventilation and oxygen available that is all the better they can do.
In America 50% of medical personel have said they would not go to work if there was a pandemic, so when this thing goes H2H the survival rate will slip way below the small rate we already have, unless it naturally recombines with something that makes it less volitole.
Back to Top
Guest RN View Drop Down
Guest Group
Guest Group
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guest RN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2009 at 4:57am
This information is alarming at best.  Even the naysayers in my area took interest. Lab "accidents" have happened before I recall one out of MD some time ago.  In another post someone mentioned how the wealthy survived in 1918.  Although we may not be wealthy we have a wealth of knowledge courtesy of this site. Just another reason to continue prepping.
 
I have never received a flu shot although "highly encouraged" by various employers. 
Back to Top
Guests View Drop Down
Guest Group
Guest Group
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2009 at 9:25am
 
 
Where Did the Baxter International Virus Contamination Originate?


Wild asertions are flying about the internet.

"How could this company have accidentally mixed live avian flu viruses (both H5N1 and H3N2, the human form) in this vaccine material?"

Perhaps the ..company.. didn't do it? 

A disgruntled employee with loyalty ties elsewhere? 

A rival for an EU vaccine contract?

We shouldn't forget, Baxter obtaines virus from the Centers for Disease Control. (CDC)

Could it be, certain checks and balances failed somewhere along the way?

Baxter's base is Deerfield, Ill, the contamination error evolved at their facility in Orth-Donau, Austria... I read.

It's pretty far fetched that Baxter would do this intentionally. 

Unless They want to hit it big by playing

........Let's Make A Terrible FLU     (far out)

I'll remain calm and wait for the facts to come in.

...................................
 
Back to Top
Guest RN View Drop Down
Guest Group
Guest Group
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guest RN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2009 at 10:43am
Regardless of whether it was intentional or accidental it happened...    
Back to Top
LaRo View Drop Down
Valued Member
Valued Member
Avatar

Joined: March 14 2008
Status: Offline
Points: 350
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LaRo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2009 at 11:09am
Someone please tell me when God stopped a pandamic, calling on God to do something is like saying take away my free will. He/she is a observer.
r we there yet?
Back to Top
abcdefg View Drop Down
Valued Member
Valued Member


Joined: September 19 2008
Status: Offline
Points: 578
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote abcdefg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2009 at 2:55pm
It seems to be unclear where the combination mixture originated from, I have read articles that make it sound like it came from the USA and ones that make it sound like it originated in their European division.
 
It really makes no difference Baxter is a American company amy company just because it is based or has a satalitte facility is still responsible for that companies work or lack of or safety.
 
Part of the problem is Baxter is saying not much of anything.
 
As one article points out, if a level three lab like Baxter has can be compromised due to a mistake we are in trouble. If the some other entiity messed with the virus they should have caught  that mistake through safety measures long before it got to the point where it was shipped out as a vaccine to eighteen other countries.
 
So deliberate or not, either way we were in grave danger that actually happened in December and we finally found out in March.
 
To the other poster who said the business about calling on God to do something, I excercise my free will by praying and I believe that prayers are answered.
Back to Top
Guests View Drop Down
Guest Group
Guest Group
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2009 at 6:40pm

Alarm bells rang in early February when researchers at the Czech sub-contractor inoculated ferrets with the material and the animals promptly died. Baxter learned about the problem on Feb. 6,

Per Dennis2 post: Feb.27, 2009

A gaggle of 700 geese have been culled in Czech Republic following the discovery of a bird flu virus.

Control tests will decide about the fate of another roughly 2,300 geese and about 350 wild ducks, said local vet Ivan Prikryl.

The avian influenza virus was discovered by local vets when checking the breeding of waterfowl in Rybarstvi. Of the 60 randomly checked geese, 9 were infected by the virus.

Connection or no connection, I'm interested in any bird flu outbreaks in the Czech Republic, Slovenia, & Germany.(anywhere the contaminated mixture was sent to.)

Back to Top
Guests View Drop Down
Guest Group
Guest Group
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2009 at 5:01pm

3/10/09-BRUSSELS (Reuters) – Germany has informed the European Commission of an outbreak of H5N1 bird flu, the EU's first case of the lethal strain of the contagious disease in poultry this year.

The outbreak "was found in a wild duck shot during a hunt near the town of Starnberg in the German state of Bavaria," the European Union's executive arm said in a statement.http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090310/wl_nm/us_birdflu_germany_2

 
 
Unfortunately, ducks don't get sick but do excrete huge amounts of the virus into the water supply. (Norein)
Back to Top
Loribearme View Drop Down
Adviser Group
Adviser Group
Avatar

Joined: September 06 2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 2542
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Loribearme Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 11 2009 at 4:02am
population reduction?  according to some people that is part of the stragedy of the new world order.
Back to Top
Guests View Drop Down
Guest Group
Guest Group
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2009 at 7:06pm
Decided to jump in this.. as Blondie sang.."There are no accidents in a perfect world."

Sorry for the butchery on most of the links here.  So let us get serious and cut to the chase.

http://www.infowars.com/%E2%80%98accidental%E2%80%99-contamination-of-vaccine-with-live-avian-flu-virus-virtually-impossible/

if your link clicks are blitzing out here.. go to the above link and all the links work there.



Let's be real. Bioweapons, bioweapon research carried on outside the U.S. and whoops released into the mega bleeder group and into the population..

Czech newspapers are questioning if the shocking discovery of vaccines contaminated with the deadly avian flu virus which were distributed to 18 countries by the American company Baxter were part of a conspiracy to provoke a pandemic.

The claim holds weight because, according to the very laboratory protocols that are routine for vaccine makers, mixing a live virus biological weapon with vaccine material by accident is virtually impossible.

comment: it wasn't an accident.

“The company that released contaminated flu virus material from a plant in Austria confirmed Friday that the experimental product contained live H5N1 avian flu viruses,” reports the ******.

Let's be bold... Toronto Sun and here

http://tinyurl.com/9f5v5y

Baxter flu vaccines contaminated with H5N1 - otherwise known as the human form of avian flu, one of the most deadly biological weapons on earth with a 60% kill rate - were received by labs in the Czech Republic, Germany, and Slovenia.

Initially, Baxter attempted to stonewall questions by invoking “trade secrets” and refused to reveal how the vaccines were contaminated with H5N1. After increased pressure they then claimed that pure H5N1 batches were sent by accident. This was seemingly an attempt to quickly change the story and hide the fact that the accidental contamination of a vaccine with a deadly biological agent like avian flu is virtually impossible and the only way it could have happened was by wilful gross criminal negligence.

According to a compiled translation from Czech newspaper stories, the media over there is asking tough questions about whether the contamination was part of a deliberate attempt to start a pandemic.

“Was this just a criminal negligence or it was an attempt to provoke pandemia using vaccination against flu to spread the disease - as happened with the anti-B hepatitis vaccination with vaccines containing the HIV virus in US? - and then cash for the vaccines against H5N1 which Baxter develops? How could on Earth a virus as H5N1 come to the ordinary flu vaccines? Don’t they follow even basic precautions in the american pharma companies?” states the translation.

The fact that Baxter mixed the deadly H5N1 virus with a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses is the smoking gun.

comment: MCs number ONE nominee for the dark horse Pandemic agent- H3N2 tweaked with the highly lethal H5N1 - is our hybrid that will do the trick. And it is already been produced. You mix a high resp spreader like the common cold with a nasty path Avian.. and why stop at 60% it is actually 63% and 83% in Indonsesia.

The H5N1 virus on its own has killed hundreds of people, but it is less airborne and more restricted in the ease with which it can spread. However, when combined with seasonal flu viruses, which as everyone knows are super-airborne and easily spread, the effect is a potent, super-airbone, super deadly biological weapon.

As the ****** article explains, “While H5N1 doesn’t easily infect people, H3N2 viruses do. If someone exposed to a mixture of the two had been simultaneously infected with both strains, he or she could have served as an incubator for a hybrid virus able to transmit easily to and among people.”

There can be little doubt therefore that this was a deliberate attempt to weaponize the H5N1 virus to its most potent extreme and distribute it via conventional flu vaccines to the population who would then infect others to a devastating degree as the disease went airborne.

The ****** Toronto Sun article states, “That mixing process, called reassortment, is one of two ways pandemic viruses are created,” but then claims that there is no evidence that this is what Baxter were doing, despite there being no clear explanation as to why Baxter has samples of the live avian flu virus on its premises in the first place.

However, to reiterate, the key aspect of this story is that it is virtually impossible for live avian flu virus to find its way into a vaccine by “accident”.

As health expert Mike Adams points out, “The shocking answer is that this couldn’t have been an accident. Why? Because Baxter International adheres to something called BSL3 (Biosafety Level 3) - a set of laboratory safety protocols that prevent the cross-contamination of materials.”

As explained on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosaf…):

“Laboratory personnel have specific training in handling pathogenic and potentially lethal agents, and are supervised by competent scientists who are experienced in working with these agents. This is considered a neutral or warm zone. All procedures involving the manipulation of infectious materials are conducted within biological safety cabinets or other physical containment devices, or by personnel wearing appropriate personal protective clothing and equipment. The laboratory has special engineering and design features.”

Under the BSL3 code of conduct, it is impossible for live avian flu viruses to contaminate production vaccine materials that are shipped out to vendors around the world.

This leaves only two possibilities that explain these events:

Possibility #1: Baxter isn’t following BSL3 safety guidelines or is so sloppy in following them that it can make monumental mistakes that threaten the safety of the entire human race. And if that’s the case, then why are we injecting our children with vaccines made from Baxter’s materials?

Possibility #2: A rogue employee (or an evil plot from the top management) is present at Baxter, whereby live avian flu viruses were intentionally placed into the vaccine materials in the hope that such materials might be injected into humans and set off a global bird flu pandemic.

comment: this is brutal.

Spreading bird flu would create an instantaneous surge of demand for bird flu vaccines. The profits that vaccine companies such as Baxter International could reap out of such a panic are astronomical.

In addition, as we have previously reported, those that have a stake in the Tamiflu vaccine include top globalists and BIlderberg members like George Shultz, Lodewijk J.R. de Vink and former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

Authorities in both Europe and the U.S. have openly detailed plans for martial law, quarantine and internment should a bird flu pandemic occur. A short ride on Reading (executive orders where .gov - president declares a disaster state equal with war - giving full war power and beyond believable things like mandatory quarantine, confiscating weapons, forced split up of families, mandated labor, confiscation of prep food supplies by military for their own use as well as dividing them up to common people.. (its like writing with a laser site on your forehead) not popular stuff - read the EOs put in by JFK, Clinton, and now Bush. Power you would not believe.

The other motivation, as we have exhaustively documented on this website for years, (not this website - the one I am quoting)  is the fact that elites throughout history have openly stated that they want to see a world population reduction of around 80 per cent. Shocking stories like this take the plausibility of that narrative out of the realms of conspiracy theory and into the dangerous reality of conspiracy fact.

Baxter is acting a whole lot like a biological terrorism organization these days, sending deadly viral samples around the world. If you mail an envelope full of anthrax to your Senator, you get arrested as a terrorist. So why is Baxter — which mailed samples of a far more deadly viral strain to labs around the world — getting away with saying, essentially, “Oops?”, Adams concludes.

This is not the first time that vaccine companies have been caught distributing vaccines contaminated with deadly viruses.

In 2006 it was revealed that Bayer Corporation had discovered that their injection drug, which was used by hemophiliacs, was contaminated with the HIV virus. Internal documents prove that after they positively knew that the drug was contaminated, they took it off the U.S. market only to dump it on the European, Asian and Latin American markets, knowingly exposing thousands, most of them children, to the live HIV virus. Government officials in France went to prison for allowing the drug to be distributed. The documents show that the FDA colluded with Bayer to cover-up the scandal and allowed the deadly drug to be distributed globally. No Bayer executives ever faced arrest or prosecution in the United States.

think this sounds way out there.. no- just google executive orders and read.

Research related links

  1. Vaccines as Biological Weapons? Live Avian Flu Virus Placed in Baxter Vaccine Materials Sent to 18 Countries
  2. Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus
  3. Novartis nets bird flu vaccine deal
  4. The Pentagon’s alarming project: Avian Flu Biowar Vaccine
  5. U.S. Air Force Study Proposed 2009 Influenza Pandemic in 1996
  6. Indonesia Accuses US in Bird Flu Plot
  7. Flashback: Homeless people die after bird flu vaccine trial in Poland
  8. Mutant Flu Virus Is Found That Resists Popular Drug
  9. Tamiflu Toxic, Causes Mental Disorders in Teenagers
  10. Scientists warn of bird flu epidemic
  11. Wichita Teen Says She’s Dying From Vaccine
  12. Court says vaccine is not to blame for autism

comment: could have really taken off with this one but am following your thread..and adding.. The world's super power are actively and on purpose conducting illegal biological weapon research.  I don't know why though after posting on what we have been doing with prions and hanta - that someone would get stressed on H5N1. It is not the leading contender for a Pandemic.

We have stuff in vials that will floor you in hours. And bury you in 24 hours.

It is such a transparent spin this research to protect ourselves while gathering a bioweapon arsenal.

CDC had over 200 strains of Avian years ago.

Point: Avian is an abysmal spreader. There is always the what if it mutates when we have hanta and others that a designer viruses meant to take out millions. I have tried over and over to steer the boat toward H3N2 which is a nasty nasty spreader and has killed people.

So oops we inject people with a bioweapon and then sit back and see what happens- and bleeder to boot - what a stroke of genius that was.

If Al Queda were a corporation, they would probably have a lobbyist, are donating to campaigns by proxy, and have cells in the highest government places as well as ready to go right down into the rabbit sanctuary holes and make the safe houses tombs. And besides the fact they aren't as an organized group but rather Taliban and over a hundred separate Muslim extremist groups.

Imagine this - scene in Afghanistan - where the leaders are probably not (anywhere near the middle east) - they probably are in Kansas saying- why should we strap bombs to ourselves and blow up people, hijack jets and get shot down by air marshals on drugs as well as selling them and  barely able to aim (disclaimer isolated cases - not just one of these people doing and selling drugs) ,  why not invest our resources in highly effective bioweapons customs designed for American white people. This is not giving them hints- they are already working on this.

Really need to loose the goat herder pics with the Shining Star (the alleged code name of the core of AQ in video) with day laborers hired for a photo shoot giving the illusion of a highly structured organization.

Does not take a brain surgeon.  If you were a bad guy and you wanted to wipe out 60% of the population, not leave a scratch on nice factories, nukes, and the best the U.S. has to offer, would you smuggle in a tugboat into New York harbor with a meganuke or have a shaved Osama with a suitcase heading to paradise in a mushroom cloud on Sacks 5th Avenue.

It wasn't an accident.  And you can be sure our adversaries are working round the clock to pull this off first.

Medclinician

Back to Top
Guests View Drop Down
Guest Group
Guest Group
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2009 at 4:16pm
Published: 18 Mar 2009

WHO mulls stricter transport of bio products
--------------------------------------------
Public health officials are studying the need for tighter controls on
the transport of biological products after Baxter, the US
pharmaceutical company, inadvertently supplied samples of the H5N1
bird flu virus to a series of European laboratories. Specialists from
the World Health Organisation (WHO) and the European Centre for
Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) are monitoring the case at a
time of growing concern that existing international rules to minimise
the risks of the spread of pathogens are too weak.

Their scrutiny follows an incident that recently came to light when
samples of H5N1 from Baxter's Austrian labs contaminated batches of
the less harmful H3N2 seasonal flu virus that it was supplying under
a commercial contract to a customer, Avir Greenhills Biotechnology.

A combination of H3N2, which is highly transmissible between humans,
and H5N1, which has killed hundreds of millions of chickens and other
[birds] in recent years, could potentially lead to a mutated virus
that forms the basis of a new human pandemic threatening millions of
lives, according to scientists. Baxter stressed that the H3N2 strain
had been made replication-defective, and was handled in tightly
controlled laboratories purely for experiments, so there was little
chance it could have led to outbreak threatening humans. It also
stressed that all staff potentially exposed were tested and given
antiviral treatment to prevent any infection.

Baxter said the H5N1 samples were provided for its own research into
a pandemic vaccine it is developing, and were from a variant of the
virus identified in Viet Nam and provided to the company by the US
Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta. "The material was handled
appropriately in all steps of the process in the right conditions,"
said Chris Bona, a Baxter spokesman. The experimental material was
produced exclusively for laboratory testing, was not used for product
production and was not for use in humans. It somehow mixed with H3N2
before distribution last December [2008] to Avir, and the more potent
virus was detected by a subcontractor in the Czech Republic last
month [February 2009] after it rapidly killed ferrets exposed to the
viruses. Avir had also sent samples to Slovenia and Germany. Mr Bona
stressed that Baxter had since taken corrective preventative actions
and its procedures had been approved by the Austrian authorities.

The incident comes just after the conclusion of an EU-funded project
on biosafety highlighted the need for improvement to national
regulatory frameworks for biosafety and laboratory biosecurity.
Communicated by:
ProMED-mail Rapporteur Mary Marshall

[Unfortunately there is no clarification of the basic error:
......."It [H5N1 virus] somehow mixed with H3N2 before distribution
last December [2008] to Avir". This thread is now cut. - Mod.CP]
 
 
comment: slap on the hand for a serious mistake It somehow mixed with H3N2
before distribution
(grrrrrrrr) last December [2008] to Avir, and the more potent
virus
was detected by a subcontractor in the Czech Republic last
month [February 2009] after it rapidly killed ferrets exposed to the
viruses
 

 
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down