chicken waste in drinking water

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   Hi.  I've been peeking in on this forum for the last couple months.  It has been invaluable and I feel like I know so many of you!  Anyway,  this is my first post and I have a question...
I live in Oklahoma and we have had an ongoing problem here with chicken waste in our city drinking water (it has affected the smell and taste of the water).  A study was done a few years ago that showed 74% of the phosphorous flowing into Lake Eucha is coming from non-point sources such as chicken "litter."  Another 24% comes from the city wastewater plant in Decater, AR which is fed by a chicken processing plant.  Lake Eucha is one of my city's main drinking water sources.  
Will treatment of the water kill this virus?  Or do, we need to make another plan when everything starts to break?

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perky Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Valued Member Joined: March 14 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote perky Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: chicken waste in drinking water Posted: March 14 2006 at 12:37pm
	Hi. I've been peeking in on this forum for the last couple months. It has been invaluable and I feel like I know so many of you! Anyway, this is my first post and I have a question... I live in Oklahoma and we have had an ongoing problem here with chicken waste in our city drinking water (it has affected the smell and taste of the water). A study was done a few years ago that showed 74% of the phosphorous flowing into Lake Eucha is coming from non-point sources such as chicken "litter." Another 24% comes from the city wastewater plant in Decater, AR which is fed by a chicken processing plant. Lake Eucha is one of my city's main drinking water sources. Will treatment of the water kill this virus? Or do, we need to make another plan when everything starts to break?

RotroShaggy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Valued Member Joined: February 13 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 42	Post Options Post Reply Quote RotroShaggy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 14 2006 at 12:41pm
	DO NOT DRINK THAT WATER. The virus can live in fecal matter for up to three months and one gram of infected fecal matter can infect up to one million birds
	RotroShaggy

perky Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Valued Member Joined: March 14 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote perky Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 14 2006 at 1:16pm
	Will bleach do the trick? What do you suggest? Move? I live in Tulsa which has a metropolitan area of around 700,000 people. This is very concerning....

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 14 2006 at 1:18pm
	Contact your Public Health Unit they should know about this and will be able to advice you.

perky Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Valued Member Joined: March 14 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote perky Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 14 2006 at 2:30pm
	Well I just spoke to someone at the local Health Dept who told me that the Bird Flu is not here and therefore there's nothing to be concerned about. She said she doesn't know of any plans to address this issue and that this does not fall into their jurisdication. She said it's an FDA issue and that I should call them. I'll let you know....

RotroShaggy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Valued Member Joined: February 13 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 42	Post Options Post Reply Quote RotroShaggy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 14 2006 at 2:32pm
	Yeah . . .tell us how the FDA tells you to call your local health department--that it is a local government thing out of their jurisdiction. Get ready for a wild goose chase. Sorry--bad example . . . .
	RotroShaggy

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 14 2006 at 2:33pm
	Definately check. If it were me, I would be on bottled water. I would not be drinking it even before BF arrives if it is that polluted. I would not be comfortable even bathing in that water once BF is confirmed in the area (could inhale the virus in the hot steamy mist of the shower, get it in through your eyes, you could be taking a bath in the virus!). Perhaps boiling it or treating it can make it safe, but I dont know for sure.

fritz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: February 04 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 332	Post Options Post Reply Quote fritz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 14 2006 at 3:46pm
	Hi perky and welcome, I would not even bath in water with such a known problem. My suggestion would be to get a reverse osmosis water filter with a UV light. You can get a system for the whole house. It will be on the expensive side but we are talking life & death here and it can also be an important selling feature for your home if you do decide to move. Maybe the companies doing to the poluting should be paying for this. How come you haven't gone to your local gov(congressperson/senator) and demand something be done? This is unacceptable!!! Go to the media and be relentless! You deserve better!
	"I am only one; but still I am one, I cannot do everything, but still I can do something. I will not refuse to do the something I can do." -- Hellen Keller

perky Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Valued Member Joined: March 14 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote perky Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 14 2006 at 4:10pm
	This has been going on for years and there has been a tremndous public outcry. In 2005, the OK state attorney general filed a lawsuit against 14 poultry companies. I guess it's still going on as I haven't heard anything about it in months...you know how the legal systems moves. I'm freaking out about this....of course when I try to talk to anyone about the bird flu much less this water issue in Northeastern OK, they look at me like I'm crazy.

perky Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Valued Member Joined: March 14 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote perky Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 14 2006 at 4:12pm
	Fritz, Thanks for the idea on the reverse osmosis system with UV....I will check into it.

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 14 2006 at 4:23pm
	I've read posts saying sterilise your drinking water with a few drops of bleach. Does anyone know if this is safe? Doesn't the bleach poison you? We have a well. The water looks clean but I should prefer to sterilise it if we have to drink it when we have no power and can't boil it. Anyone know?

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 14 2006 at 4:28pm
	Beth, Look under Priority Preparations. There's plenty of info about water. BTW, I really like your avatar.

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 14 2006 at 6:54pm
	It sounds like you do not have fecal matter in your water, but phosphates that are found in "fertilizer". It is like having salt in the water. If the water is being consumed by a large town, then even though the taste, or smell may be off, it should be safe. Virtually all city water is chlorinated which should kill bacteria, and deactivate a virus.

Falcon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Valued Member Joined: February 20 2006 Status: Offline Points: 684	Post Options Post Reply Quote Falcon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 14 2006 at 7:45pm
	thats what they said about a small town in Ontario, several people got sick from ecoli, I said to my dad, someones heads is about to roll for this. They never warned anyone when it became apparent there was a problem in the water supply.
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