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    Posted: February 13 2021 at 6:58pm

Well, Well, Well .....   The CCP has finally admitted that the pandemic was not a natural event and killed lots more people than the official figures.  Kind of figured that some shady game  was being played.  




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Originally posted by "BBC" "BBC" wrote:

The investigators had asked for raw data on the 174 identified cases of Covid-19 from Wuhan in December 2019, Professor Dwyer told Reuters. 

Only half of the early cases had been exposed to the seafood market where the virus was initially detected. 

"That's why we've persisted to ask for that," Prof Dwyer said. "Why that doesn't happen, I couldn't comment. Whether it's political or time or it's difficult... But whether there are any other reasons why the data isn't available, I don't know. One would only speculate."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-56054468

I suppose it is clear to my mind that they were hiding data at the beginning. Although the data is likely to be small compared to say the outbreaks in the UK and USA.


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[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/02/caught-in-the-act-new-york-times-intentionally-misquotes-scientists-to-fit-its-prescribed-narrative.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/02/caught-in-the-act-new-york-times-intentionally-misquotes-scientists-to-fit-its-prescribed-narrative.html  (DJ-The MoA is a US site...some in the US have a problem with all non-US info...but still claim to be ill-informed after first ignoring the info...) 

[url]https://www.rt.com/news/515528-who-experts-wuhan-nyt/[/url] or https://www.rt.com/news/515528-who-experts-wuhan-nyt/

Experts sent to China by the WHO to investigate the origins of Covid-19 lashed out at the New York Times for allegedly twisting their words. Meanwhile, Beijing hit back at Washington’s skeptical remarks about the probe.

The independent expert team returned this week from a month-long fact-finding mission to Wuhan, where they were searching for a better understanding of how the Covid-19 pandemic started. Their mission was subject to politically charged attention, stemming from widespread accusations from some Western officials that the Chinese government had conducted a cover-up of the original outbreak in the Hubei Province and its capital.

The scientists, who worked under the auspices of the World Health Organization (WHO), returned with new data and plans for further investigation. The coverage in the Western press, however, focused on parts of their investigation that came up short on expectations and alleged pressure put on the team by Beijing.

DJ-Some in the "west" seem to still believe confrontation in stead of cooperation is standard-practice in international diplomacy...

US arrogance and exceptionalism-the idea the US is above any international law-(resulting in the The Hague-invasion-act in wich the US claims to have a right to invade NL if any US person has to stand trial for the International Criminal Court) is a major problem..

Finding out how this pandemic did get started is complex. Indeed China did not give all the answers but there are openings for further cooperation. The US-and some others-can destroy this proces by continuing being rude..One can only hope most countries do have more intellect and choose to go for cooperation in stead of confrontation...we did see more then enough of that ! 

One particular story of that kind was run by the New York Times, titled “On WHO Trip, China Refused to Hand Over Important Data.” This was angrily rebuked by two members of the probe, who were extensively quoted in it. British zoologist Peter Daszak tweeted a link to the article on Saturday, commenting that “this was NOT my experience” and that the team “DID get access to critical new data throughout.”

Danish epidemiologist Thea Kolsen Fischer, a fellow investigator, agreed, saying the same was true on her side of the mission.

Maybe the only acceptable international effort on anything for the US has to be US led, following US guidelines and result in an outcome the US wants...The world did change ! 

Daszak added that after spending much time explaining to the media the key findings made by himself and others in China, it was “disappointing” to see “our colleagues selectively misquoted to fit a narrative that was prescribed before the work began. Shame on you [New York Times].”

The WHO-mandated panel is yet to present its final report on the Wuhan mission, but they have made their general conclusions public. Some of these confirmed the generally accepted theory of the coronavirus transmission from bats to humans via a yet-unknown intermediary animal. The team also agreed to further investigate the possibility of transmission through packages of cold-stored food, which some Chinese scientists favor over the alternative.

The team all but ruled out the ‘virus lab leak’ theory, which was the preferred line of attack against China by the Trump administration. The Biden administration’s rhetoric so far has been less openly accusatory towards Beijing, but it nevertheless has been highly skeptical about China’s intentions.

DJ-The WHO team of international experts to China was the beginning of a proces-not the end of it ! If the US again ruins this maybe the world finally starts realizing the US is the problem !!!!

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The CCP has had over 400 days to "scrub" any evidence they might have had. The Who's symbolic trip to Wuhan is nothing but a horse and pony show. It's obvious by the actions of the CCP that they are hiding something, or embarrassed by something. Hopefully the US and other countries stop funding that completely incompetent organization.

The latest fraud....


The WHO endorsed the Chinese theory that the original outbreak last December could have been triggered by a virus carried on frozen food.

China has previously claimed the virus has been found hiding in goods from Ecuador, Brazil and Australia.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dutch Josh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2021 at 4:21am

Maybe this can be moved to "politics"? On this forum "there are strong different views" on both China and the WHO...(or CCP, US "leadership...")

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The WHO are a joke. 

Propaganda Publicize. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Technophobe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2021 at 9:24am

Originally posted by cobber cobber wrote:

By the way Covid was very well timed for the Chinese government to crack down on Hong Kong Dissidents. Hong Kong Riots ended as soon as the public could be forced off the streets. 

Agreed!  Xin Ping is capable of using any means to an end.


However.....


Whereas the WHO are deeply flawed and at least partially controlled by China.   (He who pays the piper, calls the tune.)  But they are needed - desperately!  We need to control their purse strings; then we can control their output.  The proof that it is stupid to leave it in the hands of China has rolled in (in incrontravertable amounts!) for years.


Yes, I have put this in politics, as requested.  

Believers don't need proof and sceptics won't accept proof.
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