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Yeah, God, what did we ever do before there was a global economy?  (Eye roll).  When this thing is all over, maybe 2024, if we're lucky and the mutations don't recombine, then talk to me.

I'm not a big believer in betting on luck.

If we were so concerned about some of these countries who were hanging on by a thread, we could have helped them long before this.  Instead some of us elected a president who called those countries "sh*thole", and said "America First".  And really, if the rest of the world behaved much differently, I'm not seeing it.


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In comparison to America's generous past, Trump was rather 'in your face' with his selfishness.  

But no, no one else looks particularily good at present.   International responses have all looked like:  "Me first, s*d you!"

Yet every country where it persists is a petri-dish breeding new variants, so this is stupid as well as selfish.

Welcome to the human race - race being the operative word - winner take all.

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I'm starting to think the human population of earth is in a lot more trouble than we realise with the advent of a multitude of variations in covid...

I can't see Australia opening up to the rest of the world without 2 weeks quarantine for years even with a vaccine....

Take care all 😷😉

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A relative and I were discussing the other day that Covid, as frightening as it is and as deadly as it has been has one upside.  It has uncovered and highlighted many of the world's ills.. such as disparity in food security.  

Cobber, I'm not sure those 200 million would have all survived even without lockdowns.  If you've read anything on climate change, those vulnerable people who lack food security are even more vulnerable because of climate change, more so than Covid lockdowns.  What I mean to say is that these countries with vulnerable populations are generally 3rd world countries that did not get all the help they required from 1st world food producing nations. Like the U.S.  The argument can be made that if the U.S. did not lock down that it could have provided that assistance, but the fact remains that the U.S. is experiencing droughts in its food producing regions and have been for years.  So it's safe to say that Covid highlighted the need for climate change mitigation measures.  

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Witchy, 

Covid has exposed a lot of injustices and fallacies of the international system and the local systems as well.  

1, why has the vaccine rollout  been so disjointed and skewed toward the rich ?  The fact is that many of the most vulnerable did not get the shot in the first phase of the plan.  Rich people got a work around.  

2. The areas that were most in need of support and vaccines did not get them and never will.  We don't care about poor people or old or disabled people.  If  I  did not have my dad's company insurance plan, I would be six feet under because his old boss stepped in and  saved my ass and did the work around.  

3.  Global food insecurity is a distribution issue.  If the local leadership feels the heat, then viola the food appears.  Famines are intentional.  Famine and food supply issues are a weapon used by the rich to destroy opposition and to dominate subjects.  As a historian and scholar, t have studied famine and why it happens I can give many examples of deliberate famine.  

4. Crisis is an opportunity to destroy community and to exploit people.  The pandemic is a perfect chance to restrict civil rights constitutional protections and strip people of property rights.  Both sides of the political spectrum are guilty of insane and unconstitutional laws, restrictions and downright power grabs.   We are going to have our rights stripped faster than a cheap stripper in  a local honky tonk strip joint takes off her clothes for a 20 dollar bill.   Civil liberties are being smashed, gun rights are bieng stripped and taxes are going to be very oppressive when this pandemic ends.  

5.  The passing of the torch.  China has been playing the long game for quite some time andi it is now the winner of the pandemic.  Trump presented the CCP with a bonanza of intel and advantage,  The west is now dead. Putin has now made the transformation from a superpower to a regional power, realizing the new power of china.  India has to play catch up  and or placate the new master of the game. 

6,  We hjave squandered our advantages and therefore are going to have massive problems in the next few years. 





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Witchy, ME, I believe you are right.  Sad.  So much for the "glory days".

And Carbon, if, as I fear, a couple of the variants recombine, we are screwed.  Period.

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Covid disappearing rapidly.  Why! why is it happening?


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Answer: In part its because the WHO changed their assessment protocol on the 13th of January. Its not the only reason, but its the one with the most impact. And people wonder why Trump wanted to defund the WHO. 

Approximately 80% of diagnosed cases under the old protocol were false. 


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Lips red much?  Eye roll.

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Just proves ,

The lockdowns and people following the science  all have an affect,

Just watch the numbers rocket ,when the restrictions and lockdowns start to open......

All they doing is giving the hospital's and medical staff a respite......

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This proves that masks work? LOL


Na, It proves Jesus does miracles. 


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Cobber can't you post as something constructive.....

Instead of this crap.....

Just plain showing you yourself up ,I'm sure you not really as stupid as you make out......

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I call BS lol. They have  increased in my state and the deaths continue to increase daily. I get the state report sent to me daily. You can sign up on our state website to have daily updates. 

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Worldwide deaths are dropping - a bit.  

But you don't take of your parachute when it has slowed your descent; you wait until you are on the ground.

Well, that is what you do if you have half a brain or more; I can't speak for everyone.   

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Just been watching BBC UK News ,looks like restrictions are going to be relaxed... ........

Not as slowly as the medics would like...... .......

Any bets as to we see rising cases within 2 weeks 

Take care all 😷😉

Reuters: UK PM Johnson wants 'cautious but irreversible' path out of COVID-19 lockdown.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain/uk-pm-johnson-wants-cautious-but-irreversible-path-out-of-covid-19-lockdown-idUSKBN2AF0GS?feedType=mktg&feedName=topNews&WT.mc_id=Partner-Google



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Tech, I love that analogy!  I am using that one tomorrow for sure!  I feel like we haven't seen the fallout from Super Bowl parties, and the holiday weekend in Jan, and now we have the Valentines holiday weekend.  Fingers crossed that they numbers are still this low in 2 weeks!

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If 80% drop in a month ain't enough for you to think something odd is going on. I don't know what will move you. Literally the 13th of January the WHO changes their assessment criteria and the numbers have plummeted ever since. 


From the WHO

New Covid-19 cases down 16 percent last week: WHO

https://au.news.yahoo.com/covid-19-cases-down-16-233021468.html

The number of new cases of Covid-19 reported worldwide fell by 16 percent last week to 2.7 million, the World Health Organization said.

The number of new deaths reported also fell 10 percent week-on-week, to 81,000, the WHO said late Tuesday in its weekly epidemiological update, using figures up to Sunday.

Five of the six WHO regions of the world reported a double-digit percentage decline in new cases, with only the Eastern Mediterranean showing a rise, of seven percent.

New case numbers dropped 20 percent last week in Africa and in the Western Pacific, 18 percent in Europe, 16 percent in the Americas and 13 percent in southeast Asia.

WHO director general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said Monday that the number of new cases had declined for a fifth consecutive week, dropping by almost half, from more than five million cases in the week of January 4.


"This shows that simple public health measures work, even in the presence of variants," Tedros said.


Did anyone tell Tedros that we have been running public health measures since April last year.  Did anyone tell him they changed their assessment criteria??


This a..hole was the one that changed it. He know full well what is going on.





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Cobber mate

I asked you on another thread ,why would countries,cities, schools close ,total disruption to the world economy, if all this was a powderpuff,

I would like you explain the logic behind all the closures,if as you say covid is nothing to worry about.....

Why would governments all over the world shut up ,mandate masks , implement lockdowns?

Simple question Why ? Please explain.....

I think I have a reason ,but it's a bit far out ,to far out there and very scary to even think about......

I hate being a lateral thinker........ take care all 😷😉


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I don't blame people for being fearful. I just find it sad that groups would try to exploit the virus for ill gotten gains. 


I'm convinced that the virus was exaggerated by the media, Google and Facebook. I suspect collusion to oust Trump. I expect it was also a convenient political tool for some other governments or oppositions too. I know China viciously squashed the Hong Kong Uprising during the confusion. Apparently they killed many dissidents, blamed it on Covid and promptly incinerated them.


Carbon, To answer your question:

I've read about the modern forms of Mass Hysteria. I believe this is what we are in the midst of. 

The problem with this illness is its almost impossible to convince people that they have been hysterical because other around them back up the hysteria. Hence face masks etc


Here's a PDF on the topic. Its a good read. 

https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/18/4/1376/pdf


If you want a chuckle. Read about other mass hysteria events. Some are weird as. 



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Originally posted by cobber cobber wrote:

I don't blame people for being fearful. I just find it sad that groups would try to exploit the virus for ill gotten gains. 


I'm convinced that the virus was exaggerated by the media, Google and Facebook. I suspect collusion to oust Trump. I expect it was also a convenient political tool for some other governments or oppositions too. I know China viciously squashed the Hong Kong Uprising during the confusion. Apparently they killed many dissidents, blamed it on Covid and promptly incinerated them.


Carbon, To answer your question:

I've read about the modern forms of Mass Hysteria. I believe this is what we are in the midst of. 

The problem with this illness is its almost impossible to convince people that they have been hysterical because other around them back up the hysteria. Hence face masks etc


Here's a PDF on the topic. Its a good read. 

https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/18/4/1376/pdf


If you want a chuckle. Read about other mass hysteria events. Some are weird as. 



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I guess they only let you out ,with your nurse.....!!!!!!!!!!

You need stronger meds......or get off the mull(weed).......

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Cobber, you cray cray.....jus sayin!

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Crazy like a fox.


https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/why-new-covid-cases-are-crashing


The WHO fully understood that their testing standards would produce exaggerated numbers. The medical fraternity was up in arms over it. 

This news has been suppressed

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I wouldn't use Zero Cred as a news source. This crazy theory has been debunked by many reputable sources. The "memo" doesn't match the headlines designed to lure in the uneducated....

  1. Please read carefully the IFU in its entirety.
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  3. Check the IFU for each incoming consignment to detect any changes to the IFU.
  4. Consider any positive result (SARS-CoV-2 detected) or negative results (SARS-CoV-2 not detected) in combination with specimen type, clinical observations, patient history, and epidemiological information.
  5. Provide the Ct value in the report to the requesting healthcare provider.


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When you read [url]file:///home/chronos/u-6a204c8e63e7def0ddbd413be1e353ce67875461/MyFiles/Downloads/Na2021_Article_AComprehensiveReviewOfSARS-CoV.pdf[/url] or file:///home/chronos/u-6a204c8e63e7def0ddbd413be1e353ce67875461/MyFiles/Downloads/Na2021_Article_AComprehensiveReviewOfSARS-CoV.pdf 

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The Associated Press: States easing virus restrictions despite experts' warnings.

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As the 30 days (later changed to 60 days, from a later starting date) related to the USA this is important as it looks like it will not be over any time soon.

Quote Dr Rochelle Walensky said "recent declines in cases have levelled off at a very high number"


she also gave a warning of a potential fourth surge in US cases

Quote She said about 70,000 new cases a day were recorded last week, "a very high number".

There were nearly 2,000 deaths a day in the same period, she said.

"Please hear me clearly: At this level of cases, with variants spreading, we stand to completely lose the hard-earned ground we have gained," Dr Rochelle Walensky, director of the CDC, said on Monday. "These variants are a very real threat to our people and our progress."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56247656

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Not nearly over in Brazil....Brazil's daily deaths reach all-time high 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-56264425

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Impact on forecast of future case level
Date: Wed 3 Mar 2021

https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-variants/insight-when-will-it-end-how-a-changing-virus-is-reshaping-scientists-views-on-covid-19-idUSL5N2L14JR
Highlights:

Chris Murray, a University of Washington disease expert whose
projections on COVID-19 infections and deaths are closely followed
worldwide, is changing his assumptions about the course of the
pandemic.



But in the last month [February 2021], data from a vaccine trial in
South Africa showed not only that a rapidly spreading coronavirus
variant could dampen the effect of the vaccine, it could also evade
natural immunity in people who had been previously infected.
 "I
couldn't sleep" after seeing the data, Murray, , told
Reuters. "When will it end?" he asked himself, referring to the
pandemic.


But, they [scientists], say data in recent weeks on new variants from South Africa
and Brazil has undercut that optimism.

They now believe that
SARS-CoV-2 will not only remain with us as an endemic virus,
continuing to circulate in communities, but will likely cause a
significant burden of illness and death for years to come.

As a result, the scientists said, people could expect to continue to
take measures such as routine mask-wearing and avoiding crowded places
during COVID-19 surges, especially for people at high risk.

Even after
vaccination, "I still would want to wear a mask if there was a variant
out there," Dr. Anthony Fauci, chief medical advisor to US President
Joe Biden, said in an interview
. "All you need is one little flick of
a variant (sparking) another surge, and there goes your prediction"
about when life gets back to normal.

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To  me this Covid 19 virus is no different than the other coronavirus we live with every year,that one is call the common cold,

I imagine when that first came amongst the human population the result was pretty much the same as what is happening with this virus,it will take years for us to develop "herd immunity" if it ever happens......

A C19  variant will keep circling the world,as long as people travel........

This is not rocket science,it's not new to the human population,it's just we as a modern society have never had to face a true pandemic,

As Jacksdad said a good while ago....."slow burn" something I never imagined......

If anything we will be having booster shots every year,

the problem is in all of this is ,

1,Countries with big populations slow to roll out vaccine,or with no vaccine available for the masses

2,the circulation of C19 in animals......

That's how I see things....... Hope I'm very wrong.....

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Carbon,  I am trying to get my head around what the "slow burn C-19" will mean... 


I guess booster shots each year is a good bet (at least it should only be one shot not two), if one is in a rich enough country.

Trade and travel will not stop (sorry Josh, the polititians won't listen to you on this), but I guess they will be at a much lower level than before the pandemic started, so we need to take holidays closer to home.  It also means that those of us with international families will be less able to travel to see them.  

However, I see elevated death rates (ie higher than a bad flu year, but maybe not as high as the rates we will hit this year) for years out.  This means lower life expectancy and in some "western" countries a faster (but still slow) rate of population decrease.   But statistics out of many populous countries (eg India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, China, nearly the whole of Africa) are so poor it is hard to see what would happen in those countries which hold a significant amount of the world's population.

Both my parents lived to 89 years old, but it is looking like I will not get to that exalted age as the risks from this virus will increase year by year.   

Babies and children are growing up without the usual socialization, so I wonder what emotional problems that will provide years down the line.  I also wonder if that will push an even greater level of isolation and what that means for society to hold together.   [These areas may take decades before the problems really start to show.]


Maybe a better title for the thread would be "Covid over in 30 years".

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I really don't know the upshot to all of this ,

I don't think countries that have had lockdowns, such as the UK,can survive another long lockdown,the population will go crazy..... 

 the governments have let the virus run rampant instead of complete hard lockdowns aka New Zealand,means it's all to late .......


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Latest Dr Campbellvideo says reason US numbers appear to go down is testing is way down!!!

Thank you Biden!!  Before ads ran on TV all the time about where to get tested. Now they are done as well as street signs saying Covid testing done here. Interesting 

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Testing is down because cases are down, but it isn't proportional. The US was doing 2 million tests a day at the top of the spike. Currently they are doing 1.5 million a day.

Cases were as high as 250,000 a day during the spike, now cases are down to 50,000 a day. So testing hasn't dropped anywhere near the level that cases have dropped.

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We cannot blame Biden for the Covid/testing fatigue that is manifest and ubiquitous worldwide.

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Now that it is 5 months after the election, and covid is still here but also having new waves overseas, I sure hope anyone that thought this was political feels somewhat different now.  

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Now that it is 5 months after the election, and covid is still here but also having new waves overseas, I sure hope anyone that thought this was political feels somewhat different now.  

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sorry Roni3470......

Don't hold your breath on that one.......

I've been watching your news , people still without masks , partying without a care in the world......

Sheer madness.....

This virus is not going anywhere fast...

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With Covid19-variants now (most likely) spreading in other-non human-hosts Covid will be here to stay...just like the flu...but bringing very different, much more severe symptoms ! "The virus has won !"

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Please don't misquote me. I said the virus is a Powderpuff. And I'm correct. It is a powderpuff. 0.03% is nothing!!!!


The over reaction to the virus has been the catastrophe. 




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What I meant was that it IS real and for those that thought it was going to end after the election, well hopefully they see now that the virus is real.  

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I'm with Roni.

Yes, It has not killed so many, but there is more than one 'but' to that statement:


But, it is not over yet. Those plagues are.

But, those historical plagues did not have the interventions of modern medical knowledge, neither in treatment, nor quarrantine, nor distancing.

But, it is still mutating. It has lots of other coronaviruses to reassort with too.

But, it hospitalises a significant proportion of its hosts for months.

But, it has other hosts.  The only one known to share that trait is the black death.


We have vaccines, yes, but without strict controls it could rapidly get so much worse.

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