Delta Virus

[url]https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/892756-discussion-thread-vi-covid-19-new-coronavirus?view=stream[/url] or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/892756-discussion-thread-vi-covid-19-new-coronavirus?view=stream latest activity; 

WHO urges fully vaccinated people to continue to wear masks as delta Covid variant spreads

PUBLISHED FRI, JUN 25 20212:02 PM EDTUPDATED FRI, JUN 25 20214:34 PM EDT
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The World Health Organization on Friday urged fully vaccinated people to continue to wear masks, social distance and practice other Covid-19 pandemic safety measures as the highly contagious delta variant spreads rapidly across the globe.

“People cannot feel safe just because they had the two doses. They still need to protect themselves,” Dr. Mariangela Simao, WHO assistant director-general for access to medicines and health products, said during a news briefing from the agency’s Geneva headquarters.

“Vaccine alone won’t stop community transmission,” Simao added. “People need to continue to use masks consistently, be in ventilated spaces, hand hygiene ... the physical distance, avoid crowding. This still continues to be extremely important, even if you’re vaccinated when you have a community transmission ongoing.”
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The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that about half of adults infected in an outbreak of the delta variant in Israel were fully vaccinated with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, prompting the government there to reimpose an indoor mask requirement and other measures.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/25/delt...t-spreads.html
See also:

UK: more than 50% of deaths from Delta variant are in the vaccinated

DJ Vaccines, masks, social distancing, handhygiene, ventilation, taking enough sleep/vitamins etc...

[url]https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/general-science-information/vaccines-information/vaccine-news/918212-booster-may-be-needed-for-those-with-johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine-shot-as-delta-variant-spreads[/url] or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/general-science-information/vaccines-information/vaccine-news/918212-booster-may-be-needed-for-those-with-johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine-shot-as-delta-variant-spreads ;

26 Jun 2021 08:35AM (Updated: 26 Jun 2021 08:40AM)
NEW YORK: Infectious disease experts are weighing the need for booster shots of the Pfizer/BioNTech or Moderna mRNA-based vaccines for Americans who received Johnson & Johnson's one-dose vaccine due to the increasing prevalence of the more contagious Delta coronavirus variant.

A few say they have already done so themselves, even without published data on whether combining two different vaccines is safe and effective or backing from US health regulators. Canada and some European countries are already allowing people to get two different COVID-19 shots.

The debate centres on concerns over how protective the J&J shot is against the Delta variant first detected in India and now circulating widely in many countries.
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Andy Slavitt, former senior pandemic advisor to US President Joe Biden, raised the idea this week on his podcast. At least half a dozen prominent infectious disease experts said US regulators need to address the issue in short order.

"There's no doubt that the people who receive the J&J vaccine are less protected against disease," than those who get two doses of the other shots, said Stanford professor Dr Michael Lin. "From the principle of taking easy steps to prevent really bad outcomes, this is really a no brainer."

The CDC is not recommending boosters, and advisers to the agency said at a public meeting this week there is not yet significant evidence of declining protection from the vaccines...

DJ-"Not yet significant evidence" is waiting for large scale vaccine escape ? See also [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2_Delta_variant#Vaccine_efficacy[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2_Delta_variant#Vaccine_efficacy ;

The WHO has said current vaccines will continue to be effective against the variant. In an update in May, they said there may be some evidence of "reduced neutralization".^[37] A study conducted by the Public Health England, has found that both Pfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca-Oxford vaccines provide a 33% protection against symptomatic disease caused by the variant after the first dose. Two weeks after the second dose the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was found to be 88% effective at stopping symptomatic disease from the Delta variant while the AstraZeneca-Oxford vaccine was 60% effective against the variant.^[38][39]

A group of researchers from the Francis Crick Institute, published in The Lancet shows that humans fully vaccinated with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine are likely to have more than five times lower levels of neutralizing antibodies against the Delta variant.^[40][41]

In June 2021, Public Health England announced it had conducted a study which found that after two shots, the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine and the AstraZeneca vaccine are respectively 96% and 92% effective at preventing hospitalisation from the Delta variant

DJ-If the UK is reporting over 50% of its Covid deaths are fully vaccinated either they did die from age/other illness or the vaccines offer less protection...You need to balance science based studies on what you see in real life...A lot of younger people go for the J&J vaccine-so they can party...we will soon enough find out how vaccines deal with it...

Again-more info on Delta+ is needed ! Could it be most of the spread is Delta+-but sequencing is a problem ? 

pheasant, In my opinion "media" do a bad job-again...[url]https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/europe-aj/europe-covid-19-sept-13-2020-may-31-2021/917728-uk-more-than-50-of-deaths-from-delta-variant-are-in-the-vaccinated[/url] or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/europe-aj/europe-covid-19-sept-13-2020-may-31-2021/917728-uk-more-than-50-of-deaths-from-delta-variant-are-in-the-vaccinated as link-I want to provide proof of what I am saying...allthough it is not fully clear; 

Don’t think of this as a bad sign, it’s exactly what’s expected from an effective but imperfect jab

Sun 27 Jun 2021 03.00 EDT
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It could sound worrying that the majority of people dying in England with the now-dominant Delta (B.1.617.2) variant have been vaccinated. Does this mean the vaccines are ineffective? Far from it, it’s what we would expect from an effective but imperfect vaccine, a risk profile that varies hugely by age and the way the vaccines have been rolled out.

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As said before - vaccines are ONLY ONE TOOL in the public health tool box. In my opinion the total emphasis by certain governments on vaccine, vaccine, vaccine...gives the public a false impression. Vaccines can be A HELP....but they ARE NOT guaranteed.

NO SINGLE TOOL IS THE ANSWER.

Use your common sense.

DJ-Vaccinations can not do miracles...[url]https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/india/india-covid-19-sept-13-2020-may-31-2021/918205-covid-19-killed-26-indonesian-doctors-in-june%E2%80%94at-least-10-had-taken-china%E2%80%99s-sinovac-vaccine[/url] or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/india/india-covid-19-sept-13-2020-may-31-2021/918205-covid-19-killed-26-indonesian-doctors-in-june%E2%80%94at-least-10-had-taken-china%E2%80%99s-sinovac-vaccine ; SINGAPORE—At least 10 of the 26 doctors in Indonesia who died from Covid-19 this month had received both doses of the vaccine developed by Sinovac Biotech Ltd., a medical association said, raising questions about the Chinese-made shot that is being used in many parts of the developing world.

The Indonesian Medical Association’s Covid-19 mitigation group is still working to verify the vaccination status of the 16 others, said Dr. Adib Khumaidi, who leads the group. According to the group’s latest figures, over a five-month period, at least 20 doctors who were fully inoculated with Sinovac’s vaccine died from Covid-19, accounting for more than a fifth of total fatalities among doctors during that time span.

The toll could rise further in the coming weeks as the country battles a surge in infections and hospitals across the archipelago fill up...

On the Delta virus [url]https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/india/india-covid-19-sept-13-2020-may-31-2021/917438-india-media-outlet-explains-why-there-may-be-a-large-undercount-in-covid-19-deaths-june-15-2021[/url] or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/india/india-covid-19-sept-13-2020-may-31-2021/917438-india-media-outlet-explains-why-there-may-be-a-large-undercount-in-covid-19-deaths-june-15-2021 ;The University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation believes the true death toll in India may exceed 1.1 million, almost three times the reported number.

India's undercount has also left a huge gap in the world's understanding of the impact of the Delta variant, which health experts believe helped drive one of the world's worst Covid-19 surges in April and May...

DJ-An R0 of 6.0 maybe even as high as 8.0...in combination with almost all western countries reopening is unbelievable insane...

[url]https://www.timesofisrael.com/despite-rising-infections-israel-records-just-1-covid-death-in-2-weeks/[/url] or https://www.timesofisrael.com/despite-rising-infections-israel-records-just-1-covid-death-in-2-weeks/ ;

Coronavirus infections have been rising again over the past two weeks, but serious illness and death remain on a downward trend, indicating that Israel’s vaccination campaign is helping to prevent a major resurgence in morbidity.

On June 14, there were 206 active cases in Israel, a figure that had risen to 1,254 as of Monday following a series of local outbreaks.

Since then, only a single COVID-19 fatality has been recorded in the country and serious cases have declined from 30 to 22.

The spike in cases has had no apparent adverse effect on these numbers, apparently due to the high vaccination levels among older Israelis and those in at-risk groups. Most of the recent cases have been among young people, who are less vulnerable to serious illness.

According to the latest Health Ministry figures, 51 percent of active infections are among Israelis who are 19 or younger and 77.3% of those hospitalized in serious condition are unvaccinated.

DJ To put numbers in perspective...

Dr.John Campbell in conversation with Dr. Nigel Ferrier in Western Australia [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vui8VATr30U[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vui8VATr30U on the Delta variant. 

Since Australia has very limited vaccinations-30% of population did get a first vaccine I believe-and natural immunity is almost zero the Delta variant has a lot of chances in Australia. Dr.J.C. describing the Delta variant as a "pandemic on top of a pandemic"...

Dr. Ferrier on the Perth/Western Australia cases-15 seconds "contact"-just passing eachother-may be enough for spread....Earlier China reported that same kind of high level of infectiousness...

When one looks at the statistics of the UK and Israel-both on the top in vaccinations one has to get very worried...

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2020#Knockout_phase[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2020#Knockout_phase has matches in Saint Petersburg-Russia, London UK...Baku Azerbaijan...Tokyo Olympics going on, Tour de France, Wimbledon...with the Delta variant doubling every week...

Here in NL over 400 cases per week of the Delta variant returning from vacations in Spain, Portugal...

Is insanity the new normal ? 

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2_Delta_variant[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2_Delta_variant ;

On 18 June 2021, Public Health England issued Technical Briefing 16 on SARS-CoV-2 variants, documenting 73 deaths among 60,655 UK cases of SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant with a fatality rate of only 0.1%. This compared with a fatality rate of 1.9% (some 19 times higher) among 224,021 patients whose deaths were associated with the original Alpha variant.

DJ-[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2_Delta_variant#Statistics[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2_Delta_variant#Statistics only giving a glimpse of how widespread and fast spreading Delta is...

China reported short incunation time often 2-3 days...but also seen in Australia-people can test negative first-get out of-up to two weeks-quarantine-and turn out positive...Vaccination results (often ?) in asymptomatic infection...so one could still spread the virus. 

Since most of the world is less then 10% fully vaccinated-even some US and European states not doing that much better-and doubts on how good some vaccines can stop the Delta variant we are moving towards an almost "Global India scenario"...

Oxygen will be only one of the many problems. HCW-ers exhausted and demotivated-since also the spread of the Deltavariant should have been stopped by stopping air travel...-will become another problem.

The Delta-variant is pushing the global pandemic even further...

EdwinSm, wrote: I read somewhere that about half of Finland's new covid cases are linked to fans going to St.Petersburg for the Euro football.   You can fix stupidity

And then everyone throws their hands in the air,when a new variant "suddenly appears"......

YOU CANT FIX THE STUPITY OF UNEDUCATED PEOPLE.........

take care all 😷😉

Usk wrote: Yes you can its called evolution in action.  Stupid begets bad outcomes

But this would not qualify for a "Darwin Award", as their stupidity affects others and not just themselves.  

DW (Deutsche Welle) Covid19/Delta in Russia [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo75yYHFE2g[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo75yYHFE2g ;

Russia is in the middle of its third coronavirus wave - thanks to the rapidly spreading Delta variant. The authorities are sounding the alarm: The new mutation accounts for almost 90 percent of new cases. Officials are talking about more than 20,000 new infections every day, most of them in Moscow. To get the situation under control, the Russian capital has reopened field hospitals and built medical stations especially for coronavirus. All hospitals are quickly being reequipped to handle COVID-19 patients.

But their main goal is to get more citizens vaccinated against COVID-19. Russia was the first country in the world to get a vaccine to market - with Sputnik Vee. So far, however, only 10 percent of the population has been vaccinated. The government wants that to change - by decree. From now on, all companies in Moscow must have at least 60 percent of their workforce vaccinated. Restaurants are still open, if only until 11 p.m. But in the future, only people who have been vaccinated, or who have a medical certificate showing they have recovered, or who have a negative PCR test, will be allowed to eat there. They will have to scan a QR code issued by the Moscow health authority.

That means all service-sector employees have to get the jab. Anyone who refuses will be fired. Those who take part will be rewarded. But even these unprecedented measures are a far cry from the tough lockdown the government imposed last year as infections began to rise. 

Virologists say it's a case of too little, too late - and that the third wave could be Russia's most devastating yet.

DJ-Since the Delta variant is 2/2.2 times more infectious then the early 2020 Covid variant-and vaccinations/NPI are "limited" at best-with health care getting exhausted-the pandemic again is getting worse.

Even in the UK with lots of vaccinations and people taking care/social distance etc. cases, hospital admission and deaths are going up. Vaccines may limit the damage-but variants will mutate further towards immune escape. 

Cobber, the Delta variant is about as deadly as the flu, but it is FAR more contagious.  So it actually kills far more than the flu.  

The damage done by a contagion is due to its mortality and its transmissability.  The drop in death rate is from vaccination, not a less deadly variant.  The Delta variant is actually more deadly than the original strain.

Do you need this in words of one syllable? 

This bug kills like flu.  More folk get this bug than get the flu.  So this bug kills lots more folk than the flu.  Masks and jabs help fight this bug.  If we stop their use, it will kill lots more.  This bug makes folk sick for a long time too and that is bad. This new bug type is worse than the old bug was.  

OK?  Do you get it now?

Voice of America: Britain Faces Travel Bans Amid Soaring Delta Variant Infections.

https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/britain-faces-travel-bans-amid-soaring-delta-variant-infections

Hey cobber ,maybe you should share your Vast knowledge  .......

With the people pulling the strings....... lmao

Someone will play the racist card,as they did here when we stopped flights from India.......

Makes me so angry,

Backward, ignorant people.....

Too insular to realise it's not about them........

It's for the greater good.......

Take care all 😷😉

DJ-Trying to follow statistics on "how bad the Delta variant is"....According to embedded media, science/politics for sale;

-Vaccines offer good protection

-My impression is the "official story" is spread in (partly) vaccinated offers "limited risk" for vaccine escape [url]https://theconversation.com/whats-the-delta-plus-variant-and-can-it-escape-vaccines-an-expert-explains-163644[/url] or https://theconversation.com/whats-the-delta-plus-variant-and-can-it-escape-vaccines-an-expert-explains-163644 ; The unique mutations in the Delta variant mean the virus can escape the immune system to some extent. Indeed, Delta has shown to reduce efficacy of vaccines somewhat. This means a single dose of vaccine may offer reduced protection.

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UK researchers found the Pfizer vaccine had an efficacy of 33% against Delta after a single shot, and 88% after both doses. In the case of the AstraZeneca vaccine, the efficacy was just 33% after the first dose but went up to 60% after the second dose.

The Delta plus variant might have a similar degree of reduction in efficacy against the vaccines currently in use. Though we’re yet see good data on whether this is the case.

DJ-I notice a downward trend in protection offered by vaccines. 

[url]https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00202-4/fulltext[/url] or https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00202-4/fulltext ;

A key component of any plausible strategy towards the permanent removal of non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPIs) is ensuring low case numbers in the short to medium term using NPIs and vaccination. Assuming a fixed vaccine escape mutation probability per infection (p), the risk of a vaccine escape variant arising in a specified time period is 1 – (1 – p)^N, where N represents the number of cases in that period. Crucially, this expression indicates that the vaccine escape risk is sensitive to background incidence; the risk of an escape variant appearing within a fixed time is an increasing function of incidence (figure). Reducing cases is not only beneficial for decreasing the pressure on health-care systems, but also for lowering the vaccine escape risk.

Of course, there are fundamental differences between using NPIs and vaccines to lower incidence. When considering vaccines that do not prevent transmission entirely, there is an interplay between reduced cases at the population-level and the potential for selection for vaccine escape variants in infected vaccinated hosts.

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 A related question is whether it is most beneficial to vaccinate many individuals using single vaccine doses or fewer individuals twice. Dose-sparing strategies could in theory lead to selection for vaccine escape variants.

 However, evidence suggests tentatively that the net vaccine escape risk is lower when more hosts are vaccinated with single doses than when fewer hosts are vaccinated twice due to reduced cases.

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In summary, high SARS-CoV-2 incidence rates act to increase the vaccine escape risk. Maintaining low case numbers using NPIs and vaccines is crucial at this time.

DJ-A pre-pandemic study [url]https://www.healthline.com/health-news/leaky-vaccines-can-produce-stronger-versions-of-viruses-072715[/url] or https://www.healthline.com/health-news/leaky-vaccines-can-produce-stronger-versions-of-viruses-072715 ; By studying chickens, researchers say they have proven the theory that more virulent viruses can evolve from so-called “leaky” vaccines.

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According to a new study published today in the scientific journal PLOS Biology, some types of vaccines could allow more virulent versions of a virus to survive, putting those who are unvaccinated at greater risk of severe illness.

This means ;

-Present vaccinations in this pandemic may cause new variants.

-A high number of infections may increase risk of (further) vaccine escape.

-Allready present vaccines show less protection against the Delta(+) variant

DJ-It would be welcome to see statistics on how many fully vaccinated people still get infected. Also-after infection-do they show no symptoms, spread the virus...or sometimes do get symptoms but not spread the virus seems also a reasonable question...

Here in NL we do NOT even have good statistics on fully vaccinated people...Linking infections to vaccines and variants needs good data...When those basic numbers are not there we have to rely on "studies" often dated studies...

-Some basic statistics on the story of "mild hay fever symptoms"; 

[url]https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/europe-aj/europe-covid-19-sept-13-2020-may-31-2021/918022-uk-covid-19-variant-delta-trend-june-24?view=stream[/url] or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/europe-aj/europe-covid-19-sept-13-2020-may-31-2021/918022-uk-covid-19-variant-delta-trend-june-24?view=stream shows UK has hospital cases going up 24,2%... Deaths has been under 20 for most of the time...

Finland [url]https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/check_how_the_covid_epidemic_and_vaccination_campaign_are_progressing_in_your_area__our_graphic_has_covid_stats_from_finland_and_the_world/11863045[/url] or https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/check_how_the_covid_epidemic_and_vaccination_campaign_are_progressing_in_your_area__our_graphic_has_covid_stats_from_finland_and_the_world/11863045 is also showing an increase in hospital cases +37,9% in the last two weeks...

[url]https://www.rt.com/news/528300-iran-fifth-wave-coronavirus/[/url] or https://www.rt.com/news/528300-iran-fifth-wave-coronavirus/

Also [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/#weekly_table[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/#weekly_table may provide info on how the Delta variant works out...In India it proberbly killed over 1 million-allthough the official statistics try to paint a different picture...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/why-covid-aids[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/why-covid-aids is trying to claim "only old and fat people die from Covid"...Makes me wonder who is paying for this garbage...In India most who died where not "old or fat" ....

Here in NL hospital cases still going down...but cases exploding...Very likely most-if not all-allready the Delta variant...allthough "embedded press/experts/politics" try to claim increased testing may be most of the story...since they have been pushing for reopening (paid by the same "club" as the zerohedge-nonsense claiming only old and fat die from Covid...?)

Another "story" is young people and vaccinated only get-at worst-mild symptoms...I expect hospital cases also to go up mid july...due to "mild hay fever like symptoms"...maybe we will see some restrictions by then in NL...

Josh,  

I have been thinking about all of the work that you and the others have done to help us. I understand what is going on here.  We are thankful that the group has been so supportive over the past year and a half.  Sometimes I wonder if our leaders have made a decision that shutdowns and restrictions are ineffective against the virus due to low or no vaccination rates in other parts of the world and have made the political choice to reopen despite the new variants.  They don't care about the human costs anymore and are focused on a return to normal.   The veneer of normalcy and a somewhat pandemic fatigued public helps to get our society back to normal.  Normal is what they want us to do.  Behind the scenes, they are panicked.   A few weelks ago i asked a friend who was still in the federal civil service about what he thought was going on.  He said that TPTB have accepted higher deaths and higher human disease because they have to keep the system working, taxxes paid , He mentioned a need to keep agriculture working and food processing and distribution working.  They kept mentioning the black deah and the 1918 pandemic.  He also said that the vaccines are a stop gap.  They know that the virus was made in a lab and was deliberately put out to cause chaos and hasten the decline of the West.  They know that the vrius will work around the vaccines and win in the short term.  They know that it will look bad for several more years and that millions will die.  TPTB have made a decision and we have to live or die with it.  

[url]https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-fight-against-vaccine-fatigue/a-58162123[/url] or https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-fight-against-vaccine-fatigue/a-58162123 ;

Germany —with more than 56% of its population vaccinated with one dose, and 39% fully vaccinated —is making giant strides towards a crucial point in combatting the pandemic: the point when herd immunity can be achieved by vaccinating 85 to 90% of the population. This goal can only be reached if skeptics and refusers can be convinced to get vaccinated. 

So far, the campaign has not managed to persuade them.

DJ- The "blame game"; here in NL politics now is telling the media they based reopening decissions on experts opinion...Earlier some experts already made it clear they did NOT agree with the political reopening choices...Of course "WE" do it wrong ! Always blame the citizens...

Blaming China is part of the blame-game...kick the can down the road..hope the crisis will go away...wishfull thinking...

ME163-The Powers That Be (TPTB) seem to have no idea what to do...no plan...Their advisors are Big Pharma...The hardest hit countries are not the western countries. Peru did-in official numbers-see already over 0,5% die in this pandemic...

From a historical point of view-till around 1900 infectious diseases killed more people per year then even during the Spanish flu died per year...(if I get that correct-I did try to find historic data...). Better housing, hygiene, sewage, clean water, better (knowledge of) healthcare all made a difference...

How this pandemic further develops may be a hard question..if Covid19-variants spread to non-human hosts it may get much, much worse...I simply do not have the knowledge to claim earlier pandemics at least sticked to one species...(allthough coming from another species). 

The Delta variant will-almost for certain-not be the last wave...If UK already is warning for a hard winter...Several countries (Spain, France, Norway etc.) are not reopening or going-again-for restrictions...

From [url]https://twitter.com/DrEricDing[/url] or https://twitter.com/DrEricDing ;

1) Holy cow—the insane “logic that more people infected is better is **MORAL EMPTINESS and EPIDEMIOLOGICAL STUPIDITY**” is the best critique of 

 & 

’s “living with the virus”  mass infection strategy. Thank you 

. #COVID19

2) Reminder— Pandemicidal policies of encouraging mass infection is complete and utter lunacy. 

 should also be ashamed of himself for going along with it.

3) 

’s govt advisors have seriously gone ridiculously mad and / or lost all moral compass. 

 needs to resign if he truly feels morally uncomfortable with this.

4) As reminder, all critical measures of hospitalizations, ICU mechanical ventilation beds, and deaths all rising in England !!! Yet UK health secretary 

 and 

 want to let virus spread and “live with the virus” by callously declaring “freedom day”! 

Let this sink in—currently 43 #COVID19 hospitalized in Sydney, 10 of whom are in ICU. 4 of whom require ventilation. “Of the 10 people in ICU, **one is age ~20s**. One is in their 30s. One is in their 50s”. That is the serious #DeltaVariant folks

5) The #DeltaVariant is particularly 1 dose vaccine evasive. Only 18-30% with one dose, much lower than before. Two doses better much much weaker. Scotland found 79% two dose Pfizer efficacy for #DeltaVariant infection, while Israel found 64-70%.

6) Israel’s ministry of health reported a 64% efficacy of 2 dose Pfizer in June when #DeltaVariant dominant, compared to 94% just in May recently. That’s a big drop. Another Israel study found 70% against delta, but same ballpark. Hospitalization efficacy now 93% instead of 98%

7) If you want to see what #DeltaVariant can do once it hits ~99-100% dominant, England is a notable rise in hospitalizations. England is even more fully vaccinated than the US. Yet still increase. This is why Australia cannot release its #COVID19 mitigation measures yet!

8) Sounds like New South Wales is having a hard time with compliance. They need to upgrade they masks and add more ventilation and indoor air disinfection too.

DJ While Pfizer-for profit-is trying to sell yet another vaccine/booster shot the vaccine strategy can not keep up with variants spread...Basicly vaccination/Big Pharma strategy may be making matters worse...pushing variants towards resistent variants able to infect hosts over and over again...

It could be a little of both ,Delta a bit different, immunity fading......

The only problem with this is ultimately the virus changes....wether that's for good or evil.......

i'll consult my Oracle......!!!!! 

In the meantime I'll get my second shot of  Az ,and then maybe go for a mRNA..... always liked a cocktail...... usually a extra dry Martini(2 olive's)........lol

After being initially identified in India in October, the delta variant has since been reported in at least 104 countries around the globe and is expected to soon be the dominant coronavirus variant circulating worldwide, according to the World Health Organization. The variant was first detected in the U.S. in March and is now present in all 50 states.

"The delta variant is ripping around the world at a scorching pace, driving a new spike in cases and death," WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Gebreyesus said during a COVID-19 press briefing on Monday.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/delta-variant-now-accounts-58-covid-19-cases/story?id=78834579

From [url]https://twitter.com/DrEricDing[/url] or https://twitter.com/DrEricDing  (see also [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Feigl-Ding[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Feigl-Ding ) ;

And as reminder — #DeltaVariant is leaps and bounds faster transmission than any other variant. Dr 

, who led smallpox eradication, even says Delta is more transmissible than smallpox!!! And it took his team years to eradicate smallpox!

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WOW—one case at a soccer game went from initial infection to transmission to another person in just under **30 hours**!!! That is likely the fastest transmission ever formally documented during the pandemic. And yes it’s #DeltaVariant - damn damn damn. This is bad.

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Want proof of another outdoor fleeting transmission case? Here it is — an outdoor cafe infection of fleeting contact — confirmed via even genomic sequencing to match the exact virus strain!! This is very strong proof it happened. This is why I worry - multiple bad signals.

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in light of the above #DeltaVariant data, these partying at a nightclub in London as coronavirus restrictions are lifted by callous Boris Johnson and 

 are pretty insane.

DJ-There should be a law against insane "leaders"...BoJo, rutte (NL) are no better then bolsonaro...in Brazil committing genocide on the poor...(see also [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox#Transmission )

A good summary; [url]https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/delta-variant-everything-you-need[/url] or https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/delta-variant-everything-you-need ; 

With other diseases like Ebola, killing faster means killing too fast to infect many others, so this type of virus doesn’t prevail. Only the ones who at the same time evolve to be less deadly win. But for COVID in our current health system, all the contagions happen early on, much earlier than death. So making death earlier doesn’t matter much.

So is this what’s happening with Delta? Yeah.

One way to tell is the viral load. The higher it is, the more the virus is present. In China, they estimated the viral load of Delta to be 1,000 times higher than that of the original variant.

The most frustrating thing is that this was completely predictable, not just in December, but even in March of 2020.

DJ-Not a nice story...

Here is a worthwhile tweet furnished by author Stephen King. Even though his monumental pandemic novel The Stand was first published over 40 years ago in 1978, the horror maestro has offered up an audio rendering  of the chapter where he explains in his folksy fictional fashion how a dangerous virus spreads. It is a chilling listen, the simplicity of how a global pandemic spreads like this one has.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jwN5vYGiZws&feature=youtu.be

I may be over doing it right now...but can anyone blame me for not walking the dog by the day care playground anymore? All the kiddies come up to the fence and want to pet him and I can only think of Delta floating on a cloud towards me! I am talking over 30 elementary school kiddos here.

I am double vaxxed, but our retirement community is "recommending masks" right now. All staff have to wear them, but of course all of thier schnazzes are hanging out - so what is the point? I sometimes feel I am the only person living in reality.

My friend here- her grandaughter has pneumonia - 31, not vaxxed...I said it sounds like Covid- they are waiting on the results.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cjGPMm-lMQ[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cjGPMm-lMQ MedCram

Good info on Delta variant; 

A coronavirus (COVID-19) variant has become dominant in the USA and Roger Seheult, MD of MedCram responds to 10 common questions including: 

If someone is fully vaccinated or already had COVID, how worried should they be about the Delta Variant? 

Is Long COVID occurring in the fully vaccinated? 

When is this surge going to peak? 

Can we learn from other countries? 

Should we be getting booster COVID vaccine doses? 

Are more children getting hospitalized with COVID 19 Delta variant? 

What happens when school starts? 

Have treatment and testing strategies changed for Delta variant? 

What can we do to protect ourselves and our communities from the coronavirus Delta variant and future COVID mutations? 

This video was recorded on August 6, 2021 Roger Seheult, MD is the co-founder and lead professor at https://www.medcram.com He is Board Certified in Internal Medicine, Pulmonary Disease, Critical Care, and Sleep Medicine and an Associate Professor at the University of California, Riverside School of Medicine.

DJ At 10 minutes-who is better of getting 1 million $ or 1 penny/cent doubling for 30 days ? Answer after 30 days you end up with 5,368,709 $...just showing the exponential factor...

Also Delta most likely will NOT be dominant this winter...but another Covid variant most likely allready spreading...

DJ-Not good news-but realistic info !