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First Witnessed Death Due to Covid

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ViQueen24 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2021 at 1:23pm

People have rights, AND they have corresponding responsibilities.  In this country, the same people who flaunt their right not to be vaxxed, are the same people who feel they have the "right" to not wear a mask, which would protect them from potential infection from others, as well as potentially protecting others from the unvaxxed, should they become infected.  These people are the same people who are standing on top of you and touching your cart at the grocery store. I'm vaxxed, masked and gloved when I go out, and I'm not terribly interested in being infected by selfish, irresponsible people.  What has happened to the concern/respect for others, community-spiritedness of 75 years ago?  Shameful!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carbon20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2021 at 3:29pm

Originally posted by Technophobe Technophobe wrote:

Nah, Carbon!  If we do not care for each other - faults included - we cease to be human and become something lesser.  I have to side with KiwiMum on that one.  

How far do you go? Do you only treat the perfect, who have been unlucky?  Come to that, Is luck something we could breed for?  

I get it!  Do away with all medicine, karma says we only get what we deserve.

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                       NO!             

Help the helpless, whenever you can, whatever reason.  Anything else is morally unsound.


I would love to agree.....

However......I think this only pertains to "your tribe".....

You only have to look at all the wars..... ethnic conflicts, racism,in some places it's only if you can afford to pay.....

We who live in places where there is universal health are lucky,

But I have heard very religious people say ,they should get any medical treatment before any drug addicts......

So when the going gets tough.....

The sick and weak will fall.....

Just nature.....

As I said I don't like being a realist.....

But as I've said many times on here how do we save the destruction of the planet by us humans......

How do we turn off the power plants.... please let me know......!!!!!

It's not possible......

Without mass unemployment and starvation.....

Take care all 😷😉


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Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖

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I, ME163  Hereby apologize for my transgressions to KIWI and ask for Forgiveness.  I was wrong and being the Man that I am, Admit to my error.   I hope KIWI accepts this apology and that we can all move on from this incident.  


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cobber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2021 at 8:44pm

My Israel stats were from the following site. 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/

if their number of deaths are dropping then that would be proof. Early days still.

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Originally posted by ME163 ME163 wrote:

I, ME163  Hereby apologize for my transgressions to KIWI and ask for Forgiveness.  I was wrong and being the Man that I am, Admit to my error.   I hope KIWI accepts this apology and that we can all move on from this incident.  


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Of course. Thank you very much. No harm done.

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I'm really late to this thread, clearly an emotional topic so mostly just sending out good thoughts to everyone.

My 2 cents...
- A dear friend's mom died from Covid last April, so early on in 2020. I was already taking it seriously, but that just further confirmed the severity.

FWIW, I don't usually get the flu shot, with my current lifestyle (mostly at home) the benefits don't outweigh the risks most years. I had a bad reaction many years ago. That decision is based mostly on the adjuvants, not the other parts of the vaccine. When I get it I'm careful to get the one I'm least likely to react to.

With Covid, there was *never* a thought of not getting the vaccine. I *did* consider which one to get, and went with Pfizer. Fortunately that's the one the state first offered me so it worked out perfectly. 

I did/do have some mild and manageable side effects from it, but absolutely nothing compared to what could happen with Covid so I don't mention them anywhere. And they've improved over time. TOTALLY WORTH IT.


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