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Well I rinsed them and will use soapy water when I use them.  Kiwi, do you purchase lettuce?  How do you wash lettuce?  I buy baby romaine ready to use?  Would you soap that?

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I know exactly where your head is at Newbie.  A friend was talking about buying a small chest freezer and filling it with meats.  I thought to myself, I think it's too late for that.  I haven't seen any items limited, but I think it is only a matter of time here in the U.S.

I've bought a meat grinder attachment for my Kitchen Aid so that I can make my own sausages and grind meats.   I have a feeling it's going to come down to getting larger joints or cuts of meat being in the market and very little processing.  We'll wind up doing things like getting whole chickens butchering them ourselves and deboning it for cutlets ourselves.  

I may be a city girl, but I'm glad I spent much of my childhood in farm country so I know how to do these things.  

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Flumom, if it helps, I cut that up as I regularly do for salad and soak it in a healthy dose of vinegar in cold water.  Vinegar may not kill the virus, but in a 10% concentration it destroys virus phalanges so the cell can't infect.  

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Originally posted by WitchMisspelled WitchMisspelled wrote:

I know exactly where your head is at Newbie.  A friend was talking about buying a small chest freezer and filling it with meats.  I thought to myself, I think it's too late for that.  I haven't seen any items limited, but I think it is only a matter of time here in the U.S 

If you're not seeing limits there yet - I'd tell friend to grab freezer and fill asap! This has potential to get truly ugly and faster then most people are aware of...jmho


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Thanks Witch, I was worried about the lettuce but I will do the vinegar soak and rinse...good idea.  I purchased a lot of meat before this all happened because I package meat for him to take to college.  I bought a bunch extra first part of March thinking this could get bad so I have three small freezers full of meat and frozen veggies.  I also in 2010 bought a lot of freeze dried chicken, beef, and pork in #10 cans, bought a lot of #10 Mountain House complete meals too.  I have to go look what I have in veggies and fruit too.  I bought the freeze dry because it lasts so long.  I figure if the food gets real short I will have my son coming to get a bunch of cans...lol!

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I hear wheat may be a problem too.  If Blue Bell folds, we're done.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/supermarkets-adjust-meat-sections-as-coronavirus-cuts-supply-11587051995

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This link should answer a lot of questions about troubles in food supply chain:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/food-makers-get-shot-of-reality-now-that-panic-buying-has-waned/ar-BB12J4SI?ocid=spartanntp


Food Makers Get Shot of Reality Now that Panic Buying Has Waned


After weeks of consumer hoarding, panic buying is abating and the lack of demand from shuttered restaurants, schools and coffee shops is starting to set in. Sanderson Farms Inc., the U.S.’s third-largest chicken producer, is slowing production at plants that supply restaurants, and protein giant Cargill Inc. has idled an egg facility due to the lack of demand from the food services industry.


Americans spend more than half of their food budget eating out, and an increase in retail among grocery stores can’t fully compensate for the lack of demand from restaurants. Every 10% decline in out-of-home food spending translates into a gain of just 3% in the retail channel, according to Rabobank, one of the largest lenders to the food and agriculture industry.


Nowhere is the effect of restaurant shutdowns more obvious than in the dairy industry, with almost 50% of American cheese production going to food services. Farmers in top-producing Wisconsin are being asked to dump milk to boost low prices with overall demand for dairy products expected to drop 10% to 15% in the second quarter, according to Mary Ledman, a global diary strategist at Rabobank.


Prices for chicken wings have taken a hit from the lack of sporting events and the pork industry is also under pressure, with some 25% of production being sold through food service outlets, according to David Herring, a hog farmer and board member for the National Pork Producers Council.


“Demand was great for about 10 days, then it just stopped,” he said, adding that the biggest hit was to bacon, with 70% being consumed out of home. “We’re basically producing 425,000 hogs a week that there is no market for because of Covid-19.”


Even your daily cup of coffee could be hit as job losses mount and restaurants close, said Christian Wolthers, president of importers Wolthers Doque in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Some coffee shop chains have already asked to delay their shipments to later this year. For instance, the coffee they were going to get in July or August, they now want it in the last two months of the year, he said.


“We are only going to feel this incredible low in sales sometime in the middle of summer,” Wolthers said. “The stores that closed and the volumes at hotel and restaurants and K-cups were not sold, and this will show in inventories building more than usual.”


Some companies are having to slow down or shut plants because they can’t easily turn them into facilities that produce for retail. For instance, a can of tomatoes that goes to restaurants is a different size from the ones that hit supermarket shelves. Others are reluctant to invest in changes that will only yield returns during the pandemic lockdowns, before things get back to normal.

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Tyson Foods  now a big deal in Iowa- I see a closure in the foreseeable future...

https://wcfcourier.com/news/local/1-dead-of-covid-19-in-black-hawk-co-tyson-now-classified-as-having-outbreak/article_eee55055-2ebb-51d8-8678-b8696880fcc4.html

Black Hawk County reported 65 new cases Thursday for a total of 150, and eight are hospitalized.


“Our increase in numbers is due to an outbreak in Tyson Foods Waterloo,” Egbuonye said


She declined to say how many cases were confirmed at the plant.



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https://www.kcci.com/article/tyson-confirms-covid-19-cases-at-perry-plan-doesnt-disclose-how-many/32193514#

And now this- this is the THIRD Tyson plant in Iowa with issues.

On Wednesday, Tyson confirmed that two of its employees who worked at the Columbus Junction plant died from COVID-19.

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Here is some information that might help us not be too afraid of no meat!


TOP 100 PROCESSORS REPORT

Rank

Company

Net Sales

No. of
 Plants

No. of
 Employees

Operations

1

2017: 2

JBS USA Holdings Inc.
Greeley, Colo.
 Andre Nogueira, President/CEO

38,642.1
 (EFR)

44

73,000

Beef Slaughter, Boxed Beef, Beef Further
Processing, Ground Beef, Pork Slaughter,
Fresh Pork, Poultry Slaughter,
Poultry Further Processing, Lamb,
Prepared Foods, Case-Ready,
 Private Labeling, Export, Natural/Organic

2

2017: 1

Tyson Foods Inc.
Springdale, Ark.
 Tom Hayes, President/CEO

38,260
 (EFR)

111

122,000

Beef Slaughter, Boxed Beef, Beef Further
Processing, Ground Beef, Pork Slaughter,
Fresh Pork, Fresh Sausage, Cured Sausage,
Ham, Deli Meat, Bacon, Poultry Slaughter,
Poultry Further Processing, Prepared Foods,
Portion Control, Case-Ready, Private Labeling,
 Export, Natural/Organic

3

2017: 3

Cargill Meat Solutions Corp.
Wichita, Kan.
 Brian Sikes, Corporate Vice President

20,000

36

28,000

Beef Slaughter, Boxed Beef, Beef Further
Processing, Ground Beef, Fresh Pork,
Fresh Sausage, Cured Sausage,
Ham, Deli Meat, Poultry Slaughter,
Poultry Further Processing,
Portion Control, Case-Ready,
 Private Labeling, Export, Natural/Organic

4

2017: 8

SYSCO Corp.
 (est. sales of custom meat operations)

Houston, Texas
 William J. DeLaney, President/CEO

16,479
 (EFR)

17

1,200

Boxed Beef, Beef Further Processing,
Ground Beef, Fresh Pork, Fresh Sausage,
Cured Sausage, Ham, Deli Meat, Bacon,
Poultry Further Processing, Veal, Lamb,
 Seafood, Portion Control, Natural/Organic

5

2017: 4

Smithfield Foods Inc.
Smithfield, Va.
 Kenneth M. Sullivan, President/CEO

15,300

60

50,000+

Pork Slaughter, Fresh Pork, Fresh Sausage,
Cured Sausage, Ham, Deli Meat, Bacon,
Poultry Slaughter, Poultry Further Processing,
Seafood, Prepared Foods, Portion Control,
Case-Ready, Private Labeling, Export,
 Natural/Organic

6

2017: 5

Hormel Foods Corp.
Austin, Minn.
 Jim Snee, President/CEO

9,200

33

19,900

Beef Further Processing, Pork Slaughter, Fresh Pork,
Fresh Sausage, Cured Sausage, Ham, Deli Meat,
Bacon, Poultry Slaughter, Poultry Further Processing,
Prepared Foods, Portion Control, Case-Ready,
 Private Labeling, Export, Natural/Organic

7

2017: 6

National Beef Packing Co. LLC
Kansas City, Mo.
 Tim Klein, President/CEO

7,400

6

8,100

Beef Slaughter, Boxed Beef, Beef
Further Processing, Ground Beef, Case-Ready,
 Export, Natural/Organic

8

2017: 9

Perdue Farms Inc.
Salisbury, Md.
 James A. Perdue, Chairman

6,500
 (EFR)

14

21,000

Poultry Slaughter, Poultry Further
Processing, Prepared Foods, Portion
 Control, Export, Natural/Organic

9

2017: 10

OSI Group LLC
Aurora, Ill.
 Sheldon Lavin, Chairman/CEO

6,100

55

20,000

Beef Slaughter, Beef Further Processing,
Ground Beef, Cured Sausage, Ham,
Deli Meat, Bacon, Poultry Slaughter,
Poultry Further Processing, Seafood,
Prepared Foods, Portion Control, Case-Ready,
 Private Labeling, Export, Natural/Organic

10

2017: 6

ConAgra Foods Inc.
Omaha, Neb.
 Sean Connolly, President/CEO

5861.5
 (EFR)

32

36,000

Fresh Sausage, Cured Sausage, Prepared Foods

11

2017: 13

Sanderson Farms Inc.
Laurel, Miss.
 Joe F. Sanderson Jr., Chairman/CEO

3,342

12

15,000

Poultry Slaughter, Poultry Further
Processing, Case-Ready, Private Labeling,
 Export, Natural/Organic

12

2017: 11

American Foods Group LLC
Green Bay, Wis.
 Steve Van Lannen, President/COO

3,100
 (EFR)

10

4,000

Beef Slaughter, Boxed Beef, Beef
Further Processing, Ground Beef, Prepared
 Foods, Portion Control, Case-Ready, Export

12

2017: 11

Koch Foods LLC
Pack Ridge, Ill.
 Joseph C. Grendys, CEO

3,100
 (EFR)

18

14,000

Poultry Slaughter, Poultry Further
Processing, Prepared Foods,
 Portion Control, Export

14

2017: 14

Keystone Foods LLC
West Chester, Pa.
 Frank Ravndal, President/CEO

2,700

13

11,000

Beef Further Processing, Poultry Further
 Processing
  

15

2017: 15

Oscar Mayer
 (Part of Kraft Heinz Co.)

Chicago, Ill.
Howard Friedman,
 President of U.S. Refrigerated

2,648.7
 (EST)

NA

7,000

Cured Sausage, Deli Meat, Bacon,
 Prepared Foods, Natural/Organic

16

2017: 16

Foster Farms
Livingston, Calif.
 Laura Flanagan, President/CEO

2,300
 (EFR)

11

12,000

Deli Meat, Poultry Slaughter, Poultry
Further Processing, Prepared Foods,
Portion Control, Case-Ready, Private
 Labeling, Natural/Organic

17

2017: 18

Mountaire Farms Inc.
Millsboro, Del.
 Paul Downes, President/CEO

2,214

3

8,259

Poultry Slaughter, Poultry Further
 Processing, Private Labeling, Export

18

2017: 17

Wayne Farms LLC
Oakwood, Ga.
 J. Clinton Rivers, CEO

2,200
 (EFR)

12

9,000

Poultry Slaughter, Poultry Further
 Processing, Prepared Foods, Export

19

2017: 19

Greater Omaha Packing
Omaha, Neb.
 Henry Davis, President

1,900

1

1,100

Beef Slaughter, Boxed Beef, Beef Further
Processing, Ground Beef, Portion Control,
 Case-Ready

20

2017: 22

Seaboard Foods LLC
Shawnee Mission, Kan.
 Duke Sand, President/CEO

1,609

2

5,000+

Pork Slaughter, Fresh Pork, Prepared Foods,
 Portion Control, Natural/Organic

21

2017: 18

Butterball LLC
Garner, N.C.
 Kerry Doughty, President/CEO

1,500
 (EFR)

6

6,000

Fresh Pork, Ham, Deli Meat, Bacon, Poultry
Slaughter, Poultry Further Processing,
Prepared Foods, Private Labeling, Export,
 Natural/Organic

22

2017: 24

Fresh Mark Inc.
Massillon, Ohio
 Neil Genshaft, Chairman/CEO

1,400

4

2,500

Cured Sausage, Ham, Deli Meat,
Bacon, Poultry Further Processing,
 Case-Ready, Private Labeling, Export

23

2017: 23

Boar's Head Provisions Co. Inc.
Sarasota, Fla.
 Robert S. Martin, Chairman/CEO

1,300
 (EST)

4

3,000

Fresh Pork, Cured Sausage, Deli Meat,
 Bacon, Natural/Organic

24

2017: 26

House of Raeford Farms Inc.
Rose Hill, N.C.
 Robert C. Johnson, President/CEO

1,140

8

5,000

Poultry Slaughter, Poultry Further
Processing, Prepared Foods, Portion
Control, Case-Ready, Private Labeling,
 Export

25

2017: 30

George's Inc.
Springdale, Ark.
Carl George & Charles George,
 Co-CEO/Presidents

1,125

6

5,500

Beef Further Processing, Ground Beef,
Cured Sausage, Deli Meat, Poultry Slaughter,
Poultry Further Processing, Prepared Foods,
Portion Control, Private Labeling, Export,
 Natural/Organic

26

2017: 27

CTI Foods LLC
Wilder, Idaho
 Robert Horowitz, President/CEO

1,100
 (DR)

5

1,100

Beef Further Processing, Ground Beef,
Ham, Deli Meat, Poultry Further
 Processing, Prepared Foods, Natural/Organic

27

2017: 28

Peco Foods Inc.
Tuscaloosa, Ala.
 Mark Hickman, President/CEO

1,000
 (EST)

7

4,000

Poultry Slaughter, Poultry Further
 Processing

27

2017: 28

Wolverine Packing Co.
Detroit, Mich.
 Jim Bonahoom, President

1,000
 (EST)

3

375

Boxed Beef, Beef Further Processing,
Ground Beef, Fresh Pork, Veal, Lamb,
 Seafood, Portion Control

29

2017: 30

Fieldale Farms Corp.
Baldwin, Ga.
 Tom Hensley, President

980

3

4,500

Poultry Slaughter, Poultry Further Processing,
Case-Ready, Private Labeling, Export,
 Natural/Organic

30

2017: 25

Indiana Packers Corp.
Delphi, Ind.
 Russ Yearwood, President/COO

975

3

2,100

Pork Slaughter, Fresh Pork, Fresh Sausage,
 Ham, Deli Meat, Bacon, Private Labeling, Export

30

2017: 32

Johnsonville Sausage LLC
Sheboygan, Wis.
 Nick Meriggioli, CEO

975

5

1,800

Fresh Pork, Fresh Sausage, Prepared Foods

32

2017: 35

Kenosha Beef International Ltd.
Kenosha, Wis.
 Dennis Vignieri, President/CEO

939.6

3

900

Ground Beef

33

2017: 39

OK Foods, a Bachoco Co.
Fort Smith, Ark.
 Trent Goins, CEO

917.2
 (EFR)

3

2,100

Beef Further Processing, Ham, Deli Meat,
Poultry Further Processing, Prepared
 Foods

34

2017: 37

Simmons Prepared Foods
Siloam, Ark.
 Todd Simmons, CEO

902.7
 (EFR)

6

4,000

Poultry Slaughter, Poultry Further
Processing, Prepared Foods, Portion
Control, Case-Ready, Private Labeling,
 Export

35

2017: 33

Agri Beef Co.
Boise, Idaho
 Robert Rebholtz Jr., President/CEO

900
 (EST)

1

12,000

Beef Slaughter, Boxed Beef, Beef Further
Processing, Ground Beef, Fresh Pork,
Ham, Deli Meat, Bacon, Portion Control,
 Export

36

2017: 34

West Liberty Foods LLC
West Liberty, Iowa
 Ed Garrett, CEO

846
 (EFR)

6

2,700

Beef Further Processing, Ground Beef,
Deli Meat, Poultry Slaughter, Poultry Further
Processing, Portion Control, Private Labeling,
 Export, Natural/Organic

37

2017: 38

Case Foods Inc.
Troutman, N.C.
 Thomas R. Shelton, Chairman/CEO

831.4

5

3,200

Poultry Slaughter, Poultry Further
 Processing, Prepared Foods, Export

38

2017: 41

Golden West Food Group
Vernon, Calif.
 Erik Litmanovich, CEO

765

2

1,008

Boxed Beef, Beef Further Processing,
Ground Beef, Fresh Pork, Fresh Sausage,
Poultry Further Processing, Lamb, Prepared
Foods, Portion Control, Case-Ready, Private
 Labeling, Export, Natural/Organic

39

2017: 36

Bar-S Foods Co., a Sigma Co.
Phoenix, Ariz.
 Warren J. Panico, President/CEO

724.5
 (EFR)

5

4,500

Beef Further Processing, Ham,
Deli Meat, Poultry Further Processing,
 Prepared Foods

40

2017: 40

Clemens Food Group
Hatfield, Pa.
 Doug Clemens, CEO

717
 (EST)

2

2,200

Pork Slaughter, Fresh Pork, Fresh
Sausage, Ham, Deli Meat, Bacon,
 Case-Ready, Private Labeling, Export

41

2017: 42

Caviness Beef Packers Ltd.
Amarillo, Texas
 Terry Caviness, President

690

2

800

Beef Slaughter, Boxed Beef, Beef Further
Processing, Ground Beef, Portion Control,
 Case-Ready, Natural/Organic

42

2017: 42

SugarCreek
Cincinnati, Ohio
 John Richardson, Owner/CEO

650
 (DR)

6

2,000

Beef Further Processing, Fresh Pork,
Bacon, Poultry Further Processing,
Lamb, Seafood, Prepared Foods,
 Private Labeling, Export

43

2017: 45

Creekstone Farms
 Premium Beef LLC

Arkansas City, Kan.
 Dennis Buhlke, President/CEO

626
 (DR)

1

674

Beef Slaughter, Boxed Beef, Ground Beef,
 Case-Ready, Export, Natural/Organic

44

2017: 47

Ruiz Food Products Inc.
Dinuba, Calif.
 Rachel P. Cullen, President/CEO

600
 (EST)

3

2,300

Prepared Foods, Private Labeling

45

2017: 74

Carl Buddig & Co.
Homewood, Ill.
 Robert Buddig, CEO

580

6

1,900

Cured Sausage, Ham, Deli Meat, Bacon,
 Poultry Further Processing

46

2017: 44

Cooper Farms
Oakwood, Ohio
 James R. Cooper, CEO

570

2

2,200

Ham, Deli Meat, Poultry Slaughter, Poultry
Further Processing, Portion Control, Case-Ready,
 Private Labeling, Export, Natural/Organic

47

2017: 46

Harris Ranch Beef Co.
Selma, Calif.
 John Harris, Chairman/Owner

567

1

975

Beef Slaughter, Boxed Beef, Beef Further
Processing, Ground Beef, Deli Meat,
 Portion Control

48

2017: 48

Lopez Foods
Oklahoma City, Okla.
 Ed Sanchez, Chairman/CEO

540
 (EST)

3

1,200

Beef Further Processing, Ground Beef,
 Fresh Sausage, Export

49

2017: 49

Stampede Meat Inc.
Bridgeview, Ill.
 Brock Furlong, President/CEO

510

3

1,600

Boxed Beef, Beef Further Processing,
Ground Beef, Poultry Further Processing,
Lamb, Seafood, Prepared Foods, Portion Control,
 Private Labeling, Export, Natural/Organic

50

2017: 50

Rastelli Foods Group
Swedesboro, N.J.
 Raymond Rastelli Jr., CEO

500

2

350

Boxed Beef, Beef Further Processing,
Ground Beef, Fresh Pork, Fresh Sausage,
Cured Sausage, Ham, Deli Meat, Bacon,
Veal, Lamb, Game, Seafood, Prepared Foods,
Portion Control, Case-Ready, Private Labeling,
 Export, Natural/Organic

50

2017: NA

Brakebush Brothers Inc.
Westfield, Wis.
 Scott Sanders, President

500
 (EST)

3

1,900

Poultry Further Processing, Natural/Organic

52

2017: 50

Beef Products Inc./
 BPI Technology Inc.

Dakota Dunes, S.D.
 Eldon Roth, President/CEO

450
 (EFR)

4

700

Boxed Beef, Beef Further Processing

52

2017: 50

Omaha Steaks
 International Inc.

Omaha, Neb.
 Bruce A. Simon, President/CEO

450
 (DR)

3

2,000

Boxed Beef, Beef Further Processing,
Ground Beef, Fresh Pork, Ham, Veal
Lamb, Seafood, Prepared Foods,
 Portion Control

52

2017: 50

FPL Food LLC
Augusta, Ga.
 Francois Leger, President/CEO

450
 (DR)

2

500

Beef Slaughter, Boxed Beef, Beef Further
Processing, Ground Beef, Portion Control,
Case-Ready, Private Labeling, Export,
 Natural/Organic

55

2017: 58

Monogram Food Solutions LLC
Memphis, Tenn.
 Karl Schledwitz, Chairman/CEO

442
 (DR)

7

2,500

Boxed Beef, Cured Sausage, Bacon,
Poultry Further Processing, Prepared Foods,
 Portion Control, Private Labeling, Export

56

2017: 55

John Soules Foods LLC
Tyler, Texas
 John Soules II, Co-CEO

425

3

1,100

Beef Further Processing, Poultry
Further Processing, Prepared Foods, Portion
 Control, Private Labeling, Export, Natural/Organic

57

2017: 56

Dietz & Watson
Philadelphia, Pa.
 Louis Eni, CEO

400
 (EST)

3

1,000

Beef Further Processing, Fresh Sausage,
Cured Sausage, Ham, Deli Meat, Poultry
 Further Processing, Case-Ready

57

2017: 56

The Chef's Warehouse
Ridgefield, Conn.
 Chris Pappas, CEO

400
 (EST)

5

NA

Beef Further Processing, Portion Control

59

2017: 61

Colorado Premium
Greeley, Colo.
 Kevin LaFleur, President

385

4

475

Boxed Beef, Beef Further Processing,
Ground Beef, Fresh Pork, Deli
Meat, Poultry Further Processing,
Portion Control, Case-Ready, Private
 Labeling, Export, Natural/Organic

60

2017: 58

Sam Kane Beef Processors LLC
Corpus Christi, Texas
 Alfred Bausch, CEO

383
 (DR)

1

650

Beef Slaughter, Boxed Beef, Ground Beef,
 Case-Ready, Export

61

2017: 59

BEF Foods, a Post Holdings Co.
Columbus, Ohio
 Mike Townsley, President

380.5
 (EFR)

6

52,000

Pork Slaughter, Fresh Sausage, Ham,
 Bacon, Prepared Foods, Case-Ready

62

2017: 62

Branding Iron Holdings Inc.
Sauget, Ill.
 Scott Hudspeth, CEO/Owner

365
 (DR)

3

630

Beef Further Processing, Ground Beef,
 Portion Control, Private Labeling

62

2017: 63

Land O'Frost Inc.
Munster, Ind.
 David Van Eekeren, President

365
 (DR)

3

1,000

Cured Sausage, Ham, Deli Meat

62

2017: 63

Surlean Foods
San Aontonio, Texas
 Neal Leonard, CEO

365
 (EST)

4

525

Beef Further Processing, Ground Beef,
Poultry Further Processing, Prepared
 Foods, Private Labeling, Natural/Organic

65

2017: 66

Allen Harim Foods LLC
Seaford, Del.
 Steven Evans, CEO

336
 (DR)

2

1,755

Poultry Slaughter

66

2017: 0

Bell & Evans
Fredericksburg, Penn.
 Scott Sechler, Owner

334.2

2

1,700

Poultry Further Processing, Prepared Foods,
Case-Ready, Private Labeling, Export,
 Natural/Organic

67

2017: 60

Fair Oaks Farm LLC
Pleasant Prairie, Wis.
 Michael L. Thompson, President/CEO

307

2

228

Beef Further Processing, Cured Sausage,
 Bacon, Poultry Further Processing

68

2017: 66

Abbyland Foods Inc.
Abbotsford, Wis.
 Harland Schraufnagel, President

306.2

4

900

Beef Slaughter, Boxed Beef, Beef Further
Processing, Pork Slaughter, Fresh Pork,
Fresh Sausage, Cured Sausage, Poultry Further
 Processing, Prepared Foods, Private Labeling

69

2017: NA

Rantoul Foods LLC
Rantoul, Ill.
James Jendruczek, President/
 Managing Partner

300

1

550

Pork Slaughter, Fresh Pork, Ham,
 Private Labeling, Export, Natural/Organic

70

2017: 67

Golden State Foods
Irvine, Calif.
 Mark Wetterau, CEO

300
 (EFR)

1

N/A

Ground Beef, Fresh Pork

71

2017: 69

Mar-Jac Poultry Inc.
Gainesville, Ga.
 Pete Martin, VP Poultry Operations

260
 (EST)

1

1,200

Poultry Slaughter, Poultry Further
 Processing

72

2017: 70

Dakota Provisions LLC
Huron, S.D.
 Kenneth D. Rutledge, President/CEO

250

2

1,088

Deli Meat, Bacon, Poultry Slaughter, Poultry
Further Processing, Portion Control, Case-Ready,
 Private Labeling, Export

73

2017: 71

Tip Top Poultry Inc.
Marietta, Ga.
 Brad Respress, CEO

237
 (EST)

3

1,600

Beef Further Processing, Poultry
Slaughter, Poultry Further Processing,
 Private Labeling, Export, Natural/Organic

74

2017: 72

Superior Farms
Davis, Calif.
 Rick Stott, President/CEO

232
 (EST)

4

410

Veal, Lamb, Portion Control, Case-
Ready, Private Labeling, Export,
 Natural/Organic

75

2017: 73

Capitol Wholesale Meats Inc.
 (dba Fontanini)

McCook, Ill.
 Gene Fontanini, CEO

227.2
 (DR)

1

523

Beef Further Processing, Fresh Pork,
 Fresh Sausage, Export

76

2017: 79

Eddy Packing Co. Inc.
Yoakum, Texas
 Hans-Peter Ryholt, President/CEO

220

1

500

Beef Further Processing, Fresh Pork,
Fresh Sausage, Cured Sausage, Deli Meat,
Poultry Further Processing, Game, Prepared
Foods, Portion Control, Case-Ready, Private
 Labeling, Export, Natural/Organic

76

2017: 74

Mountain States Rosen
Greeley, Colo.

220
 (EST)

2

300

Beef Further Processing, Ground Beef,
Fresh Pork, Veal, Lamb, Portion Control,
 Case-Ready, Export, Natural/Organic

78

2017: 76

BrucePac
Woodburn, Ore.
 Robert Bruce, Owner

215
 (DR)

3

940

Beef Further Processing, Cured Sausage,
Ham, Deli Meat, Poultry Further
Processing, Seafood, Prepared Foods,
Portion Control, Private Labeling,
 Export, Natural/Organic

79

2017: 77

Specialty Foods Group Inc.
Owensboro, Ken.
 Steven P. Wright, President

207
 (DR)

1

530

Fresh Pork, Ham, Deli Meat, Bacon,
 Private Labeling

80

2017: 78

Marcus Food Co.
Wichita, Kan.
 Howard Marcus, CEO

205
 (DR)

NA

24

Boxed Beef, Beef Further Processing,
Ground Beef, Deli Meat, Bacon, Seafood,
 Private Labeling, Export

81

2017: 79

Strauss Brands Inc.
Franklin, Wis.
 Randy Strauss, CEO

200

1

288

Beef Slaughter, Boxed Beef, Beef Further
Processing, Ground Beef, Veal, Lamb,
Portion Control, Case-Ready, Private
 Labeling, Natural/Organic

82

2017: 83

Lincoln Provision Inc.
Chicago, Ill.
 James Stevens, President

198
 (EST)

2

95

Beef Slaughter, Boxed Beef, Beef Further
Processing, Portion Control, Private
 Labeling, Export, Natural/Organic

83

2017: 84

Overhill Farms
Vernon, Calif.
 James Rudis, President/CEO

194
 (EST)

2

700

Beef Further Processing, Poultry
Further Processing, Seafood, Prepared
 Foods, Case-Ready

84

2017: 85

Rose Packing Co.
Barrington, Ill.
 Dwight Stiehl, President

181
 (EST)

1

500

Fresh Pork, Fresh Sausage, Ham, Deli
 Meat, Export

85

2017: 88

JTM Provision Inc.
Harrison, Ohio
 Tomy Maas, President

171

2

480

Beef Further Processing, Poultry Further
 Processing, Prepared Foods, Private Labeling

86

2017: 86

J.H. Routh Packing Co.
Sandusky, Ohio
 Thomas M. Routh, President/CEO

166
 (EST)

1

300

Pork Slaughter, Fresh Pork, Fresh
Sausage, Ham, Bacon, Prepared Foods,
 Private Labeling

87

2017: 87

Maple Leaf Farms
Milford, Ind.
 Terry Tucker, CEO

161
 (EST)

4

850

Poultry Slaughter, Poultry Further
 Processing, Prepared Foods, Export

88

2017: 91

Jensen Meat Co.
San Diego, Calif.
 Abel Olivera, CEO

160

1

350

Ground Beef

89

2017: 89

Swaggerty Sausage Co./
 Swaggerty’s Farm

Kodak, Tenn.
 Doug Swaggerty, President 

150

1

350

Pork Slaughter, Fresh Sausage,
 Natural/Organic

90

2017: 89

Marcho Farms Inc.
Souderton, Pa.
 Brain D. Friesen, President

150
 (EST)

1

250

Veal, Lamb, Portion Control, Case-Ready,
 Export

91

2017: 91

Peer Foods Group Inc.
Chicago, Ill.
 Larry O'Connell, President

145
 (DR)

2

450

Beef Further Processing, Fresh Sausage,
Cured Sausage, Ham, Bacon, Poultry
Further Processing, Prepared Foods,
Portion Control, Private Labeling,
 Natural/Organic

92

2017: 93

Kayem Foods Inc.
Chelsea, Mass.
 Matt Monkiewicz, President/CEO

140
 (EST)

2

600

Fresh Sausage, Cured Sausage, Ham,
 Poultry Further Processing

93

2017: 94

Williams Sausage Co. Inc.
Union City, Tenn.
 Roger Williams, President

130.3

1

589

Pork Slaughter, Fresh Sausage,
 Prepared Foods

94

2017: 95

Vincent Giordano Corp.
Philadelphia, Pa.
 Guy Giordano, President/CEO

120
 (DR)

2

120

Beef Further Processing, Deli Meat,
Prepared Foods, Private Labeling,
 Natural/Organic

95

2017: 96

ALL Holding Co. LLC
Harleysville, Pa.
 Jim Van Stone, President/CEO

116
 (EST)

2

281

Beef Further Processing, Pork Slaughter,
Fresh Pork, Fresh Sausage, Ham, Deli
Meat, Bacon, Poultry Further Processing,
 Private Labeling, Natural/Organic

96

2017: 97

Godshall's Quality Meats
Telford, Pa.
 Mark Godshall, President

115
 (DR)

2

380

Fresh Sausage, Cured Sausage,
Ham, Deli Meat, Bacon, Poultry
Further Processing, Prepared Foods,
 Private Labeling, Export, Natural/Organic

97

2017: 98

Catelli Brothers Inc.
Collingswood, N.J.
 Anthony Catelli, President/CEO

110
 (DR)

2

220

Veal, Lamb

98

2017: 99

Sierra Meat & Seafood
Reno, Nev.
 Chris J. Floccini, CEO

107
 (DR)

2

120

Boxed Beef, Beef Further Processing, Ground
Beef, Fresh Pork, Fresh Sausage, Cured
Sausage, Deli Meat, Bacon, Veal, Lamb,
Game, Seafood, Prepared Foods, Portion
Control, Case-Ready, Private Labeling,
 Export, Natural/Organic

99

2017: NA

Trim-Rite Food Corp.
Carpentersville, Ill.
James Jendruczek, President/
 Managing Partner

100

1

200

Fresh Pork, Ham, Portion Control,
 Private Labeling, Export

100

2017: NA

Farmington Foods Inc.
Forest Park, Ill.
 Anthony DiJohn, President/Co-Owner

85

2

190

Fresh Pork, Prepared Foods, Portion Control,
Case-Ready, Private Labeling, Export,
 Natural/Organic

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DR: Company did not respond to this year's survey but has provided information within the last two years.
EST: Sales data estimated using most recent available information.

 

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Note from me: Employees have to provide their own PPE!! In a food industry setting? This is unconscionable.  

We are having a problem with the U.S. meat supply


By Bill Marler on April 21, 2020

OPINION

You cannot slaughter animals without workers to do the work, and you cannot sell meat without inspectors.


We need to protect both workers and inspectors or we will see more plants shutter and our grocery stores empty.


Forcing workers and inspectors to work unprotected is not the answer.


According to the New York Times, there are about 800 federally inspected slaughterhouses in the United States, processing billions of pounds of meat for food stores each year. But a relatively small number of them account for the vast majority of production. In the cattle industry, a little more than 50 plants are responsible for as much as 98 percent of slaughtering and processing in the United States


More than a dozen beef, pork and chicken processing plants have closed or are running at greatly reduced speeds because of the pandemic.

This past week, the number of cattle slaughtered dropped nearly 22 percent from the same period a year ago, while hog slaughter was down 6 percent, according to the Department of Agriculture. The decline is partly driven by the shutdown of restaurants and hotels, but plant closings have also caused a major disruption, leaving many ranchers with nowhere to send their animals.


According to “Government Executive,” as more federal food inspectors go home sick, the Agriculture Department is scrambling to reassign employees from shuttered facilities to those with new outbreaks and is instructing those with known exposure to the novel coronavirus to continue reporting to work.


The Food Safety Inspection Service, the USDA component that handles meat inspections, is still not providing employees with masks or other protective equipment, citing a national shortage. Instead, the agency told employees they could voluntarily bring their own “cloth face coverings” to slaughterhouses, processing plants and other facilities, and will reimburse them up to $50. Until earlier this month, employees were prohibited from wearing masks, multiple inspectors said, because it created fear in the workplace.

'When you feel as though you can't do something, the simple antidote is action: Begin doing it. Start the process, even if it's just a simple step, and don't stop at the beginning.'
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And more (not) good news on the food front - this article may make people understand a bit what it takes to farm... wether it be fruits, vegtables, or  livestock - every species you take on has it's own learning curve.  You get good at sheep and take on goats - a whole new ballgame, add chickens - there's that darn learning curve kicking in again.    I can't imagine training a whole new 'team' all at once - what a nightmare!

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/why-its-naive-to-send-unemployed-canadians-to-work-on-labour-strapped-farms/ar-BB12YjoJ?ocid=spartandhp


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Wow... and although this article focuses on the ten countries going to get hit the worst... I believe this is going to affect all of us - way more then most realize or even want to consider as potential!

 World risks ‘biblical’ famines due to pandemic – UN

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/world-risks-biblical-famines-due-to-pandemic-–-un/ar-BB12Zl7J?ocid=spartandhp

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Aaannnnddd for those of you in the US - it's not just meat and food crops... apparently your water, beer and soda are all at risk as well!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/20/carbon-dioxide-shortage-us-food-water-coronavirus

You know you're in for 'interesting' times when 3 of the main stories that pop up on your MSN screen are all related to food shortages!  Plant gardens people, potatoes in 5 gal pots or bags, sprout seeds, grow micro greens in trays - anything and everything you can to help offset upcoming issues!

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Not the soda!  I can work around the rest of it, but not the soda!  *screams*   

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Note from me: Employees have to provide their own PPE!! In a food industry setting? This is unconscionable.  

I work (before I got furloughed) in a food industry, on the PA turnpike.  Despite the concern of many of us, no masks, but we did get gloves.  Of course, we always got gloves for the purpose of handling the food.  Getting us extra gloves for long-term wear, would never have happened.  They didn't even have gowns or masks for the porters and matrons who cleaned the restrooms and dealt with garbage.  I will never forget the blank expressions on the faces of the Store Manager and Distrct Manager when I asked them what our pandemic plans were re: the coronavirus.

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Another meat plant in Canada - this time BC just shut down... this is a smaller private plant - but goes to show it's not just the big guys being forced to close doors due to this.   It does mention there's two in Alberta closed...

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/vancouver-chicken-plant-closed-after-28-workers-test-positive-for-covid-19/ar-BB130tTb?ocid=spartandhp

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN21P2DK

It appears the CO2 shortage is not just a threat to beer and soda manufacturers and municipal water supplies.  Meat producers also need it for various reasons.  They use it for arefrigerant, preservative and to stun animals prior to slaughter.  Cargill says that production may slow.  There's another major meat producer with a new problem.

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Yes we will have a food problem and it will kill more than the virus.  If a plant making food has a lot of workers ill and can't run it has to shut down but if it can run on a short crew it should keep running.  Just as fruits and veggies need to be picked they should get picked.    80% of people do not get a bad case of this remember.  So let the 80% work!

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Update (April 23):  Food shortages across the country are coming a lot quicker than anyone has anticipated. A total of eight meatpacking plants have already gone offline in weeks. On Thursday morning, we noted how pork shortages could hit households by the first week of May.

Now we're starting to learn the dominos are falling, with meatpacking plants shuttering operations across the country because of the coronavirus outbreak.

Tyson Foods Inc. has announced the third plant closure in about a week and the second closure within 24 hours. The latest announcement crossed the wires on Thursday afternoon, specifies how a major beef facility in Pasco, Washington, is shutting down operations because of the virus outbreak, reported Bloomberg."


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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

Yes we will have a food problem and it will kill more than the virus.  If a plant making food has a lot of workers ill and can't run it has to shut down but if it can run on a short crew it should keep running.  Just as fruits and veggies need to be picked they should get picked.    80% of people do not get a bad case of this remember.  So let the 80% work!

Given what the various antibody serosurveys being conducted are showing, way more than 80% do not get a severe case when infected with COVID.

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https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-04-23/tyson-halts-pasco-plant-production-to-test-workers-for-covid-19

Eight major meat processors have shuttered in just a few weeks time.  You can figure they will be closed for at least two weeks.

Bottom line is the meat shortages are coming.  Looks like in about two weeks.  One report referenced in the article puts the level of frozen beef, pork, and chicken supply combined in the U.S. at two weeks worth.  After two weeks only big box stores may get their meat orders fulfilled.

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Well they have been saying that to combat climate change, one thing we need to do is eat less meat.  Looks like it will be forced on many!

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I'm not sure how much meat has to do with suns natural cycle...

https://abruptearthchanges.com/2019/06/14/the-next-grand-solar-minimum-has-very-likely-begun-nasa-predicts-lowest-solar-cycle-in-200-years/

NASA has all the charts etc too, but that article shows it all together nicely...


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Well, I can tell you Farmers Almanac said it was going to be a cold winter for Denver, NOAA said it was going to be a warm winter.  Well Farmers Almanac WAS CORRECT!  They have been correct for many years.  But the this Minimum coming/here I will be buying more wood this fall.  I had church boys help me last year but with my being off I will get a lot of wood early and load it into my back yard by myself slowly.    Covid19 has changed life!!  But a maunder minimum type event for 11 years will be interesting and I do not want to be caught low on wood.

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Maximum 3 disasters at a time, please.

      

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Originally posted by Newbie1A Newbie1A wrote:

Originally posted by Flubergasted Flubergasted wrote:

Maximum 3 disasters at a time, please.

      

      I'll try to 'say no evil' if you promise not to shoot the messenger! 

I make no promises.  It has been a bad couple of years and my trigger finger gets itchy.  😋

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speaking of food shortages, our local food market is slowing down.   Shelves are getting kind of bare.  Harder to find meat and some fresh foods.  Local garderns are going to have to pick up the slack.  We have flour and salt nearby.  Going to be a harsh winter and fall season.   

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Food supply 

 

Meat processing plants across the US are suspending operations as a result of the pandemic, and poultry giant Tyson is warning the closures could cause major gaps in the country’s food supply chain. 

The chairman of Tyson foods said millions of pounds of meat could disappear from grocery stores and restaurants, and millions of chickens, pigs and cows could be “depopulated” (read: killed) because farmers have no place to sell their livestock and there’s no one in plants to process them.

Such a scenario is already happening in Delaware and Maryland, where 2 million chickens are set to be euthanized due to a lack of employees in the region’s chicken processing plants.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/26/business/tyson-foods-nyt-ad/index.html?utm_term=1587982837231e102cc300065&utm_source=Five+Things+for+Monday%2C+April+27%2C+2020&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=201176_1587982837236&bt_ee=c%2ByDZHA8G3BsbbmoELKC5ozC84lAxMpQcPqWfSQXFrbkEIPl65ojJsmb6VrlzNos&bt_ts=1587982837236


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Meat Supply....a family member was at a few stores today and noticed the meat sections (pork in particular at a store this morning), was in shorter supply than usual. (this is Virginia) So if You have a freezer, you might want to purchase a LITTLE extra, if you can find it, just in case. FYI....NOT suggesting hoarding in any way. And for those considering purchasing a freezer, they've been in short supply as well.  I finally got one off of Amazon that is being delivered
Thursday. It's a small apartment size one which will work since its just me here, but I had to keep checking and rechecking for them to come back in stock. 
If you don't have extra freezer room don't forget available canned meat products.

You have been alerted by all of us on here!

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I’ve officially delved into some of my dry goods/staples last week. We’ve only had a fresh produce/dairy delivery mainly since March or whenever we hunkered down in March. I’m now once again getting a bit concerned as meats become difficult and what consumer behaviors that may lead to- next will be dairy and then protein alternatives. I’m now thinking it’s time to replace what I’ve used with a Costco run. Which does give me great anxiety at the moment! I had prepared for 2 months comfortably. So, any suggestions, I was thinking mid-week, mid day trip. Goal being for more non perishables than meat necessarily. Very thankful For AFT, the time, energy and stress of preparing a bit in secret from my family, not wanting to face the ridicule. I would be SO stressed had I not even mentally prepared since 2009 and began agin in January. 

Local home improvement store was seriously low on pool chorine when my spouse went for the pool supplies, but lots of algicides and other non chlorine products.

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I would recommend pleasant hill grain.  They don't seem to be as backed up as some of the businesses catering to longterm food storage.  In particular, I would suggest getting some of the ova easy eggs.  It's a good protein, and very difficult to tell from fresh eggs once prepared.  They have other things, too, but eggs and beans are the way I would go to build up some additional alternative protein in your stores that won't take up freezer space.

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Originally posted by EdwinSm, EdwinSm, wrote:

Well they have been saying that to combat climate change, one thing we need to do is eat less meat.  Looks like it will be forced on many!

Only if you don't have the skill sets required to go out and hunt it, kill it and process it. An elk and a deer in the freezer and plenty more where they came from. A country boy can survive. Venison it's what's for dinner.

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Thanks FG. I’ve never heard of that one before. I’ve ordered powdered eggs from honeyville but they expired from 2009. I’ll check it out! 

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Folks - happening already... our Aldi's are limiting meat purchases to two....two pkgs of meat only allowed (frozen is no limit)
and our Kroger in town was wiped clean of chicken...none....empty.

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I have freeze dry meats not sure how they taste!

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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

I have freeze dry meats not sure how they taste!

Well if it ever gets time to find out, I'm sure they will taste good.

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Well boo hoo...my freezer order on Amazon (for an actual freezer) got cancelled....they did refund me though.

Looking at websites all over...looks like most are "back ordered" until July. I guess I will order one and wait.

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Originally posted by AI AI wrote:

Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

I have freeze dry meats not sure how they taste!

Well if it ever gets time to find out, I'm sure they will taste good.

LOL, that is what I figured you are hungry you will eat anything!!  

I just did an delivered order from the grocery store, they were out of pork ribs the shopper got me assorted pork chops got 8 lbs of hamburger 12 chicken breasts and 12 chicken thighs.  So I am packing today and tomorrow and freezing.  I have a college kid and I know in a month he will be back home looking for free meat from mom.  LOL!  Kids do not think ahead!!

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And this is why this will continue to be an issue - the current 'generation' that should be being hatched, or born right now - isn't.  Tens of thousands of hatching eggs for layers (and for broilers), breeding stock being culled, piglets being aborted etc - so even if/when the mega butchers come back online - there will be a period of shortage due to this.  It can take approx 18-24 mos to rebuild a herd of cows, 14 min for sheep, 12 min for pigs (just looking at breeding at approx. youngest age and successful calf/lamb/piglets - add another 4-6 mos for grow out to butcher size...  

Not good...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-livestock-insight/piglets-aborted-chickens-gassed-as-pandemic-slams-meat-sector-idUSKCN2292YS

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