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You would know Newbie being a farmer.  I saw Temple Grandin live last night and she says we are in for shortages.   If you don't know who Temple Grandin is look her up.  She is Autistic but brilliant she has developed a lot of livestock methods and processing plant methods.  

We are in for a real ride in the next 6 months.  I will order meat again in a few weeks if I have room in my freezers.   I am not hoarding just looking to the future and I have a couple of extra mouths to take care of too.

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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

You would know Newbie being a farmer.  I saw Temple Grandin live last night and she says we are in for shortages.   If you don't know who Temple Grandin is look her up.  She is Autistic but brilliant she has developed a lot of livestock methods and processing plant methods.  

We are in for a real ride in the next 6 months.  I will order meat again in a few weeks if I have room in my freezers.   I am not hoarding just looking to the future and I have a couple of extra mouths to take care of too.


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It's already started. I went to the grocery store this morning first thing this morning to get some extra hamburger, bacon and sausage. I had not been in a grocery store in a long time until this week, we have been ordering online. There was hardly anyone in there. They had a limit of 2 packs of ground beef per person. I also got some steaks and the price per LB of the steak was cheaper than the ground beef. I talked to the meat guy and he said they were only going to be sending him 1/3 of the amount of the meat he has been trying to order and it was only going to get worse. He told me when he gets trucks in and what time to be there, when he unloads, to get what I needed.

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Originally posted by Penham Penham wrote:

It's already started. I went to the grocery store this morning first thing this morning to get some extra hamburger, bacon and sausage. I had not been in a grocery store in a long time until this week, we have been ordering online. There was hardly anyone in there. They had a limit of 2 packs of ground beef per person. I also got some steaks and the price per LB of the steak was cheaper than the ground beef. I talked to the meat guy and he said they were only going to be sending him 1/3 of the amount of the meat he has been trying to order and it was only going to get worse. He told me when he gets trucks in and what time to be there, when he unloads, to get what I needed.


There are still good people out there who look out for others.  It is reassuring to hear stories like this with so much craziness out there.  We are seeing meat fly off the shelves here too.  Seems like a lot of people are staying home.  

Except for Lowes which is packed.  I want to say are you sure you want to start that home improvement project now?  Or maybe they are all buying freezers, lol.




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Penham, I purchased the meatgrinder/sausage maker attachment for my Mixmaster because I have the very same worries.  My suspicion is if things get really bad, we'll be doing a certain amount of our own butchering.  

I stocked in 8lbs of bacon and a few pounds of sausage into the freezer a couple of weeks ago when we started seeing meat processing plants shut down.  I'm glad I did.  

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I have an old hand meat grinder that we use when we make our own beef jerky. I remember my mom had one when I was growing up and I saw one at a yard sale a couple years ago for $2 and picked it up and we have used it so much. My other half hunts, turkey, deer and whatever else he would have to. Our dog caught a squirrel in the backyard last year and he skinned it and cooked it for her. He convinced me to try a bite lol. They taste like chicken. The dog loved it. 

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Originally posted by Sheep Lady Sheep Lady wrote:

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Yes, THIS!!!  I love my animals & birds - too much sometimes (a failing of mine) this stuff just breaks my heart!  This isn't a case of 'the farmer next door' (Who is whom ppl should be trying to support) but rather the big agri farms/companies that are so 'dime driven' that pigs go to market THE day they hit the right weight, and have zero room for flexibility in the chain.  They make a profit (I don't) so they are 'doing it right' by the numbers, I tend to do it right by the animals so I can sleep at night!  I've heard of tens of thousands of fertile hatching eggs for layers and broilers being garbaged - that means that the entire next generation will be missing from supply chain.  I hadn't filled my incubators here as was worried about cost to feed all the chicks/ducklings etc (feed grain $'s going higher all the time at retailers) but a lot of people are starting to realize what is happening and the demand for chicks etc is fairly high - delivery though is still an issue with all the restrictions... So filled/filling now - will see what happens in next month or so as they hatch (chickens 21 days, ducks 28) then a few months of feed/care for grow out...

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I went to get some more hamburger meat today. The 5lb. Package I paid $15.99 for Saturday was $23.99 today. The smaller packages of 80/20 were $5.49 a pound. 

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$4.70 a pound doesn't sound too bad.  But compared to the $3 and change you previously paid, it might be cheaper to get a chuck or other beef roast and grind it yourself, Penham. 

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https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/meat-plants-become-covid-19-hotspots-58-test-positive-at-one-plant/


COVID-19 wallops meat plant workers; shortages hit shelves, fast food

      

Consumers are starting to see meat shortages after thousands of workers fall ill.

Meat- and poultry-processing facilities have become hotspots for COVID-19 outbreaks, with cases spreading in over 100 plants across the country.

 

Federal and state public health researchers reported Friday, May 1, that at least 115 meat and poultry plants in 19 states have had been affected by the pandemic. In all, the researchers counted at least 4,913 sickened workers and at least 20 deaths. The findings are likely an undercount given different testing strategies at facilities and the fact that some facilities did not submit any data.

 

For instance, the only data researchers had from Iowa indicated that only 377 workers in two plants in the state had been sickened. But on Tuesday, May 5, Iowa health officials announced that there were at least 1,653 cases from four plants that had outbreaks—meaning 10 percent or more of the workforce had been sickened.

 

A Tyson plant in Perry, Iowa, had 730 cases alone, which amounts to 58 percent of tested workers at the facility. Iowa Premium Beef in Tama saw 258 cases, which is 39 percent of workers tested. A Tyson plant in Columbus Junction had 221 cases, 26 percent of those tested. Tyson’s Waterloo facility had 444 cases, 17 percent of tested employees.

 

The three Tyson plants closed for cleaning at various points in April. On Tuesday, the company said the Waterloo facility, which is still closed, will resume limited operation on May 7.

 

Safety problems

 

“Our top priority is the health and safety of our team members, their loved ones and our communities,” Tom Hart, plant manager of Tyson’s Waterloo facility, said in a statement. He noted that the facility had worked with local officials and health experts to better protect workers from the disease.

 

Keeping workers safe in meat processing facilities is a particular challenge, according to the researchers behind the study last week, which was published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

 

According to data from risk assessments:

 

Facility challenges included structural and operational practices that made it difficult to maintain a 6-foot (2-meter) distance while working, especially on production lines, and in nonproduction settings during breaks and while entering and exiting facilities. The pace and physical demands of processing work made adherence to face covering recommendations difficult, with some workers observed covering only their mouths and frequently readjusting their face coverings while working. Some sites were also observed to have difficulty adhering to the heightened cleaning and disinfection guidance recommended for all worksites to reduce SARS-CoV-2 transmission.

 

The researchers also noted cultural and economic challenges to controlling disease spread in meat-processing facilities. For instance, one facility had workers who spoke 40 different primary languages. And “many workers live in crowded, multigenerational settings and sometimes share transportation to and from work, contributing to increased risk for transmission of COVID-19 outside the facility itself.”

 

For these reasons, they concluded that these facilities are at high risk of outbreak, which “requires prompt action to decrease risks to workers, preserve facility function, and maintain the food supply.”

 

Breaking the chain

 

Once COVID-19 begins spreading in a meat facility, it could easily become a source of infection for the greater community—or vice versa. Of the top 10 metropolitan areas with the highest new confirmed cases per capita, five have meat processing plants with outbreaks, The New York times reported wednesday 

Meanwhile, the United States has already begun experiencing shortages in certain meat products, including fresh beef, due to COVID-19-related closures and disruptions. Hundreds of Wendy’s fast-food restaurants have run out of hamburgers, and several grocery chains are limiting purchases of certain meat items, the Times reported Tuesday.

 

The chairman of Tyson Foods took out full-page advertisements in the Times and The Washington Post last week warning that “the supply chain is breaking.”

 

To better protect meat-plant workers, the researchers behind the MMRW report made several recommendations, such as slowing down the pace of production, installing physical barriers between work stations, screening employees for symptoms, requiring masks, offering paid sick leave, and stepping up sanitation and hygiene stations.

 

However, workers have reported that meat companies have ignored health recommendations since the pandemic began, including failing to offer masks and other protective gear and encouraging people to work while sick.

 

According to an independent tally of COVID-19 cases in meat-plant workers by Midwest Center for Investigative Reporting, there have been at least 10,800 cases from 170 plants in 29 states, including 45 deaths as of May 6.

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SF Bay area currently meat is virtually non-existent in the stores I have visited in SF and Marin counties. No beef or chicken at three stores yesterday (there were a few pounds of ground turkey left). I am well stocked but trying to top off when I can. 

Interestingly, I went online and checked high end meat companies that deliver in my area and their sites had virtually nothing left either. 

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It is the same as TP people panic and they start stocking up.  So no meat for awhile.  I told my son to keep stocking up and my sister and mom.  If they did not listen 2-3 weeks ago they will run out.    It will come back but who knows when.

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$4.70 a pound doesn't sound too bad.  But compared to the $3 and change you previously paid, it might be cheaper to get a chuck or other beef roast and grind it yourself, Penham. 

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That's what I did, I ended up buying a marked down brisket, lol. $3.79lb

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Husband went to Krogers and bought 10 lbs of ground beef for 22 dollars.  We also bought 2 slabs of baby back ribs 5 dollars a pound.  We have 2 freezors full but trying to keep extra in case someone needs some help.  We have some canned meat ,  we need to buy more probably.  

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mmmMMMMmmm... brisket burgers...!  


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I hope all of you have vacuum packers for your meat.  Freezer burned meat is not good.  I have been using a vacuum packer for 20 years and it makes a difference.

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Greetings. one and all.  

I have been under the weather for a few weeks and just got back form the hospital with a ton of meds and orders to get rest.  Yes, I got the wuhan flu.  I got a mild case of it.  It started with a fever and it got kind of like having your lungs sucked out of your body.  I am ok now. my case was mild.   My GF was not infected and she is staying with her sister and she is being monitored. I never got so Ill that they took me to the ER.  I got oxygen at home and a nurse came over 3 times a day.  I am ok now.   Doctor took a cat scam and cleared me. took the test three times and the last two were negative.  Told my GF to stay at her sister's house until July.  We are short on meat and some fresh produce.  Wishing you all well and would tell you to be careful out there.  


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Quote A Tyson plant in Perry, Iowa, had 730 cases alone, which amounts to 58 percent of tested workers at the facility


This gives some interesting data on how wide this could spread - even the spread in The Diamond Princess was less than 20%.   So this data shows that some of the early estimates of 60-80% of people being infected might not be so far from the mark.  

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Dang ME, glad you are ok!  Make sure to watch for blood clots and strokes.  This crap is not nice even after you get over it.  

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Originally posted by ME163 ME163 wrote:

Greetings. one and all.  

I have been under the weather for a few weeks and just got back form the hospital with a ton of meds and orders to get rest.  Yes, I got the wuhan flu.  I got a mild case of it.  It started with a fever and it got kind of like having your lungs sucked out of your body.  I am ok now. my case was mild.   My GF was not infected and she is staying with her sister and she is being monitored. I never got so Ill that they took me to the ER.  I got oxygen at home and a nurse came over 3 times a day.  I am ok now.   Doctor took a cat scam and cleared me. took the test three times and the last two were negative.  Told my GF to stay at her sister's house until July.  We are short on meat and some fresh produce.  Wishing you all well and would tell you to be careful out there.  


 

Glad you are home feeling better.  May I be nosy and ask what kind of meds you took?  

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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

I hope all of you have vacuum packers for your meat.  Freezer burned meat is not good.  I have been using a vacuum packer for 20 years and it makes a difference.


I agree.  I'm already on my second vacuum sealer.  People don't realize that even though it's frozen, meat will turn in about a year to 18 months. If vacuum sealed it lasts for years.  

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Glad to hear you're doing good ME163.   When I didn't see you posting, I was concerned.  Stay well and I hope you avoid all the BS complications after the fact!

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I had Oxygen and antivirals as well as Antibiotics.  Make sure if you stay home and get it, the thing that saved me was the skilled nursing care. Lung and heart specialists were consulted. I did not get ARDS. I took Vitamin D and Zinc. 

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Glad to hear you are doing ok ME, I was wondering where you were.

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ME how did you get nursing in your home?  Does Medicare pay for that if you are old enough for that...LOL?    It was good you had all the specialist Docs looking after your care.  If you can tell us what Antiviral did they give you?   

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I anticipated meat shortages

Meat workers get sick and can't go to work


Truck drivers get sick and can't drive


Supermarket workers get sick and can't go to work.


Grow your own meat - chickens etc so you are self reliant

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i was very lucky.. I have been on my deceased dad's insurance and medicare and medicaid. So I was able to get two nurses to come over and to have specialists come over to the house.  One of my cousins is a MD and he was involved in the plan.  They are going to put me on blood thinners if they have to.  One of the drugs made me sleepy and I slept  for hours on end.  If you have a C PAP or VPAP, they can run Oxygen with them.  It was not the flu and it was scary art first.  made my wiil and burial plans just in case.  I had a fever and a dry cough and shortness of breath for about 4 days but then the Antivirals kikced in and started to work. I will ask ny nurse what meds I was on. 


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Originally posted by ME163 ME163 wrote:

i was very lucky.. I have been on my deceased dad's insurance and medicare and medicaid. So I was able to get two nurses to come over and to have specialists come over to the house.  One of my cousins is a MD and he was involved in the plan.  They are going to put me on blood thinners if they have to.  One of the drugs made me sleepy and I slept  for hours on end.  If you have a C PAP or VPAP, they can run Oxygen with them.  It was not the flu and it was scary art first.  made my wiil and burial plans just in case.  I had a fever and a dry cough and shortness of breath for about 4 days but then the Antivirals kikced in and started to work. I will ask ny nurse what meds I was on. 


Do you know what antivirals they used?   I purchased an oxygen concentrator that delivers O2 up to 9 ltrs 24/7.    How do you think you got this?  Did you go out into the public to shop for food or what?

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I was on an a cocktail of pills.  All they told me was that it was an experimental drug. It begins witn an R.   I  was hooked up to an IV and the nurse gave it too me.  Then they gave me the pills.  I got pretty sleepy after I took the pills.  


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That would have to be Remdesivir. Glad they were able to find some for you!

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WOW you got the good stuff Remdesivir.  You have some good connections...good for you!  Stay well!


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ME163, I am SO glad that you are okay!! I hope that you continue having an uncomplicated recovery.

I love in Arizona, and the meat counters are starting to thin out. I went to Sam’s two days ago, and their fresh chicken cases were completely stripped except for two lonely trays of drumsticks. They did have a few bags of frozen chicken breasts.

We have a large, vertical freezer that I originally got to fill with freezer meals (back during busy mom season!). Now, it is filled with chicken, frozen fish, and ground meat.  Our kitchen freezer has some meat in it as well, so we have a pretty good stock — plus I’m cooking a couple of vegetarian meals a week to stretch it out.

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Likewise, Mate.  Glad you're OK!

Take it easy for a while.  Too much exertion just after a virus can do permanent damage.  Return to normal slowly.

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I really liked this article- sharing-


What You Need to Know About Shortages

First it was toilet paper. Then masks. Now we’re told that there can be a meat shortage.


None of this should surprise us. And (at least in most cases) probably not panic us either.


Let me give you an insider’s view. Back in the early 1990s, people under my direction were responsible for purchasing parts and scheduling for a mainframe computer manufacturer. We ordered the chips, PC boards, disks, etc., to make a computer. Then we scheduled the assembly steps through the factory.


It was about that time that something called Just In Time (or JIT for short) inventory management came into vogue. The idea was simple. Inventory is expensive. The longer you have it, the more expensive it is. So keeping inventory down can boost your profitability.


JIT works like it’s name. You get the inventory right before you need it. Let me use building a house as an example. On site, home builders have been using JIT forever.


They don’t have the cement blocks delivered until the foundation and floor is poured. Interior doors get there after the roof is finished. There’s no need to have interior paint delivered until the walls are ready. You get the idea.


Technology made JIT attractive to a variety of industries. Barcodes and computers made it possible for retailers (think Walmart, etc.) to know how many 1 pound packages of 80% ground beef each store sold each day and how many were on the shelf right now.


If they had stock in a nearby warehouse, they could deliver just enough inventory each day to restock the shelf. The food wholesaler was tied into the warehouse. They could deliver just enough product there to refill the warehouse shelf.


Back at the meat wholesaler, they needed enough ground meat, foam trays, shrink wrap and time to resupply the warehouse.


To make it even more efficient, if you collect data over time, you can get a pretty good idea how much you’ll need each day and what a maximum day would look like. So you could plan your supplies, manufacturing capacity and labor to meet that daily demand.


Everyone supplied what the next person needed. No more, no less. And just in time as they needed it.


Now let’s look at how a toilet paper shortage occurs. A few people realize that with everyone staying home from work that they’ll need and use more toilet paper at home than usual. Media pick up the idea and broadcast it.


People concerned that they could run out of TP head to their local store and buy more than they usually would. The result? Empty shelves proving to everyone that there is a shortage. Next thing you see? People fighting over TP at your local Kroger.


What’s happening behind the scenes? The demand at the store level was 2, 3 or 4 times the normal. Way beyond any expected usage.


So they (along with every other store) called on their supplier to provide 2, 3 or 4 times their normal delivery. That depleted the warehouse supply, etc.


At the beginning of the supply chain was the company that made toilet paper. Restaurants and bars use big rolls. Homeowners want smaller, softer rolls. So the manufacturer  needed to reset their machinery to make and package smaller, softer rolls like those sold at your grocer.


Thankfully the whole supply chain is flexible and made changes. In a manner of weeks we can buy TP again.


Now we’re told that there could be a shortage of meat. At Mrs. Dollar Stretcher’s request, I went to my local grocer yesterday and bought a couple of chickens, a pork butt and some ground beef. There was still choices on the shelf, but it was clear that the supply was getting thin.


Will we have a meat shortage? It’s possible. To the best of my knowledge most meat needs to be processed in a packing plant. And a few of them have been temporarily closed due to the virus. I’m sure that the plants want to reopen as soon as possible. But we simply don’t know how long that will be.


The meat supply chain is using JIT. So if the processors are shut, the farmer has no place to send a fully grown chicken. We’ve seen reports of farmers euthanizing livestock.


But expect the supply chain to adapt. There are more chickens growing that will be ready next week and the week after that. So as long as the bottleneck (in this case, the processing plants) don’t become a roadblock and stay shut for a long time, there should be meat available. You might not get the exact cut you want, but you won’t have to go meatless for the long term.


None of us can see the future. So I could be wildly wrong. But if you’re an informed consumer, you don’t need to fall victim to panic. It’s easy for the media to fan the flames of fear and trigger a buying frenzy and shortage. With everyone spending more time following the news, it’s easier than ever to do.


So learn the facts. Add them to what you know and come to a rational conclusion. You just might avoid a lot of anxiety and getting into a shouting match over a couple of rolls of toilet paper.


Keep on Stretching those Dollars!


Gary

https://www.thedollarstretcher.com/from-the-editors-desk/what-you-need-to-know-about-shortages/

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You are correct Tabitha on all of that!  Funny my friend went and purchased some ribs at Costco a week ago and she said all the stores were short on ground beef.  Talked to my son yesterday and in the state next to us they had plenty of ground beef but no stakes.  

This will work itself out like all other problems we have had with Covid 19 supply lines.  Now that being said I have 2 small refridg freezers and a small 7 cu ft freezer full of frozen meats and veggies.  But we preppers planned early in March and I had my freezers full then and have just added a little at a time in the two months since.  

Civilian (non-preppers the majority of people) did not know how or what to get in March ...just TP.  That is why we are in the situation we are in now.

LOL, try and purchase a freezer....you can't!

We all knew it would be like this and that I why I have #10 cans freeze dry f Ground Beef, chicken strips and Pork.  Just in case no fresh meat!  


P.S. I purchased all this because I have not had a vacation in 12 years...bought this stuff instead...LOL!  I like staying at home this SIP is just like I live 95% of the time.  Just don't go grocery shopping...LOL!

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MORE MEXICAN BEEF HEADED TO U.S. DINNER TABLES 

5/13/2020

By David Alire Garcia and P.J. Huffstutter

MEXICO CITY/CHICAGO, May 13 (Reuters) - More Mexican steaks and other beef cuts are headed north of the border after the coronavirus outbreak has hobbled U.S. meat processing plants, potentially offsetting fears of shortages affecting businesses from fast-food chains to grocery stores but angering American ranchers.

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Sales to U.S. buyers have already jumped 10% this month, he said, and he expects the same in June 

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There is a cost benefit in going with large units (in this case meat processing plants), but if something goes wrong then there can be big problems.   Maybe after the first waves are over we might be more concerned about reliability that just the cheapest cut.

But good for Mexico to use the free market system - that is the American spirit.  


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At my local grocery store today I saw something I hadn't seen in a dog's age:  Fresh ham.  I said out loud (more to myself than to anyone) that I LOVE fresh ham.  The butcher heard me, came over and when I said a fresh ham would be too big for just one person, he offered to cut one in half for me.  When I declined, he showed me where they had fresh ham cut up as smaller chunks (like really large stew meat pieces).  I may slip back tomorrow and buy some of those.  Other than that there was plenty of chicken, pork, beef and specialty cuts.  

Although I'm not seeing any shortages at this privately owned store, I will note that in terms of paper goods they appear to be carrying a lot of off brands I've never seen before.  

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'When you feel as though you can't do something, the simple antidote is action: Begin doing it. Start the process, even if it's just a simple step, and don't stop at the beginning.'
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