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There does seem to be a bit of progress being made in treating this bug. That could be dropping the death rate. There could also be an attempt to cover up the deaths in China; which does have a well earned reputation for such things. Both - is the liklest reason.

I have also noted that the numbers of recovered is rising. This is great news. I have been arguing for, what seems like forever, that the time delay must be taken into account in calculating the death rate; well it also applies to the numbers of recovered. Both calculating the CFR by comparing cases to deaths and by comparing it to recovered numbers, is pointless as they only give you the extreme parameters within which said CFR can fall. This is not helpful (1 - 51% on current figures) as it is too vague. People take a very long time to recover from this bug; so the numbers are set to rise sharply now - maybe as exponentially as the case numbers.
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There are currently 27,602 confirmed cases worldwide, including 564 fatalities.

The problem is that it infects asymptomatically - so the new people infected will infect others before they show symptoms - this is very very bad
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That is absolutely true, Kilt. You could not be more right. I wish you were wrong and I could argue this one. No chance!

I know that the original study confirming asymptomatic contagion was flawed, but there is so much circumstantial evidence and such an apparently huge R0, everything just seems to keep on rising, and speeding up as it does.
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I find it odd that there is no real news good or bad coming out

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I agree
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https://qz.com/india/1795841/how-india-is-dealing-with-the-coronavirus-outbreak/


https://m.timesofindia.com/city/kochi/kerala-tackling-coronavirus-with-experience-drawn-from-fighting-nipah/articleshow/73962952.cms

Looks like India is taking no chances. Quarantine for 28 days. Not sure monitoring from Jan. 15th returns from China is early enough, though.
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Smart!
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If it spreads in India...Game OVER!
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and or Africa

The most people to die of H5N1 flu was Egypt
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There are currently 30,812 confirmed cases worldwide, including 635 fatalities.
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Technophobe, BabyCat or Kilt5 or someone...
can you start to chart possible/confirmed cases in the USA (or Australia or?) just thinking if US is now where China was back in December - maybe if tracking & projecting numbers starting now will give us feedback on 'where' we're heading, better timeline of what to expect when.

Ie If you put USA known data onto an exponential chart - what number of confirmed cases could we expect at Feb end or March end? Then we could see how close it's following the curve outside China. Do you get what I'm trying to say/ask?
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I’d also really like to have “Recoveries: .... “ listed at the top here, next to “Deaths:”
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This is all that matters

Its not going gangbusters anywhere else but in China

There are currently 31,481 confirmed cases worldwide, including 639 fatalities.

In 5 days will it be double this? Will it be 60,000 cases and 1,200 dead?

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China total

TOTAL     31,161     Dead 637     
4,821 serious
1,540 recovered
26,359 suspected
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There are currently 31,481 confirmed cases worldwide, including 639 fatalities.
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Originally posted by Kilt5 Kilt5 wrote:

Its not going gangbusters anywhere else but in China



True, but there is a steady but small increase in many countries in South-East Asia (or to use WHO terms "West Pacific Region". Countries like Japan, Singapore, Malaysia, South Korea.

In Europe there were no new cases reported in the 6th February figures from WHO.

Have the travel bans worked? My gut feeling is that the have worked in slowing down the spread, but that might just delay the breakout else where.

In China the figures for Hubei (the province worst hit) are at almost 20 000 cases, where else no other Province has more than 1 000 cases. This virus seems to take its time getting started, which does give us more time to get ready.
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I really can't see it just going away....

Aka SARS.......
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Another new case was reported on 6th in Sussex,England, just 40 miles from me !?.

I wonder why it wasn't reported on WHO stats !
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Originally posted by BBC BBC wrote:

The third person in the UK to be diagnosed with coronavirus caught it in Singapore, it is understood.

He is thought to have tested positive for the virus in Brighton before being taken to hospital in London.


Link to whole BBC article


About WHO: give them time! This is breaking news! Their "situation reports" are updated once a day so this news was not available then they issued their last report. If it is not in the next report then there would be a lot to complain about.
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There are currently 31,534 confirmed cases worldwide, including 639 fatalities.
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There are currently 34,957 confirmed cases worldwide, including 725 fatalities.
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There are currently 37,554 confirmed cases worldwide, including 813 fatalities.
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There are currently 40,554 confirmed cases worldwide, including 910 fatalities.
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The Case Fatality Rate seems to be creeping up, now at 2.25%.

If one takes into account the time lag and compare yesterday's death to yesterday's new cases then the CFR is higher.
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There are currently 42,729 confirmed cases worldwide, including 1,013 fatalities.

I got a rate of 2.3
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There are currently 43,102 confirmed cases worldwide, including 1,018 fatalities.
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There are currently 44,754 confirmed cases worldwide, including 1,112 fatalities.
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^Thanks, Kilt! This is not a particularly lethal virus, which is one reason I'm not terribly worried right now.

Many mortalities seem to have been caused by pre-existing medical conditions or secondary bacterial pneumonia. Elderly are at highest risk. Compared to SARS, this one hasn't raised my alarm....yet. However, a shift in antigens, or other unknown factors, could complicate my math. SARS was worse.

"SARS was a relatively rare disease; at the end of the epidemic in June 2003, the incidence was 8422 cases with a case-fatality rate of 11%. The case-fatality ratio ranges from 0% to 50% depending on the age group of the patient."
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The Flu is the main event - this is just a rehearsal
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There are currently 45,171 confirmed cases worldwide, including 1,115 fatalities.
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There are currently 60,017 confirmed cases worldwide, including 1,355 fatalities.
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There are currently 60,062 confirmed cases worldwide, including 1,355 fatalities.
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There are currently 60,390 confirmed cases worldwide, including 1,370 fatalities.
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this is getting worse by the hour

There are currently 64,170 confirmed cases worldwide, including 1,486 fatalities.
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There are currently 64,438 confirmed cases worldwide, including 1,383 fatalities.
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There are currently 66,907 confirmed cases worldwide, including 1,523 fatalities.
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There are currently 67,107 confirmed cases worldwide, including 1,526 fatalities.
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Thank you Kilt5 for posting these. It is nice to have a record of the numbers, and a place to find the most updated numbers.
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Yes, what LittleHouse said
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There are currently 69,036 confirmed cases worldwide, including 1,666 fatalities.
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There are currently 69,268 confirmed cases worldwide, including 1,669 fatalities.
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 There are currently 69,269 confirmed cases worldwide, including 1,669 fatalities.
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There are currently 69,270 confirmed cases worldwide, including 1,669 fatalities.
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There are currently 71,223 confirmed cases worldwide, including 1,770 fatalities.
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