February Prepping 2020

Penham wrote: If you're thinking about doing a garden or even a few pots indoors you might remember to pick up seeds  and depending on your situation starting them. Lettuce and spinach are easy to grow and keep producing when you cut and eat, ours stayed throughout the snow. Last summer we only did 3 tomato plants,  this year we have 10 started in our grow tent indoors. Squash is easy to grow. Last year we had 10 plants and ate squash almost every day and had tons to give away.  We also di jalapeno, just  2 plants but bought those. Onions are easy to grow, you can use the green tops for salads while waiting for the bulbs under to grow.

I just came to post that I started looking at vegetable seeds today! Hadn't seen your post earlier.  Veggies are definitely the weak spot in my preps. So getting some lettuce and radishes and snow peas (and I guess spinach per your recommendation) going right away would be smart. It's still freezing out, but I think I can rig something up using one of my cat heating pads.

I have tons of vegetable seeds, but, they're all from 2010. That was the last year I did any real gardening. They *might* sprout, but not going to risk it.

Also ordered seeds for sprouts - an indoor fast growing item filled with nutrients.

In other prepping news, Sam's club stuff was disappearing out of my cart as I was shopping! Both online and in store they're out of canned green beans, canned chicken was in store only, and other stuff I don't even remember. Remember I was in the store yesterday and they were fully stocked. Honestly, I'm a bit stunned.  I mean, we knew, but, it's different once it's happening.

I also checked Amazon Prime Pantry, and almost everything I'd ordered in the past few weeks is now out of stock.

I talked to the 3 neighbors in my apartment complex, and they're all stocking up! Neighbors a couple doors down are too. That's a big relief. But my freaking Dad and stepmom are still fully head in sand. So I keep ordering more food knowing I'll end up giving some to them, and they can grow a ton more veggies than we can here. So I'll be assigning them that job. ;-)

OH! If you're planning on planting in pots, make sure you have potting soil to fill them with! I got a huge bag at Sam's club. Would normally buy the 'good stuff' but I'm so over budget it's not even funny.

Observations in Walmart today: (that were not there last week)

1) Big aisle displays of - Robustussin, Motrin, Mucinex

2) On the grocery side- big aisle displays of Lysol products, Clorox products and a big display of Clorox Laundry Sanitation Liquid

3) The Lysol sprays were wiped out on the shelf, I think I saw one on there and the Great Value equivalent was wiped out too with one or two on the shelf (there was that big aisle display that had more on it though, but I tend to think people dont notice those as much)

4) When I was getting my Lysol products, a woman shopping asked me where the bleach was, that made me take more notice of what others were buying. It looked like lots were "stocking up" and the store was fairly busy for a Friday during the day.

I am sure HQ is right on it with all the displays and said "get these on the floor" as that is where folks heads are at now.

5) got most of my stuff done, stil have more on my list, frankly I am really tired of shopping.

NBC run/article on panic hoarding. Doing a little planning, have a decent pantry now (like many of our more self sustaining grandparents once did). This will free up supplies for others who cannot afford to or aren’t aware just yet of the need to plan. I think preplanning so shelves can be refilled, hopefully leaves supplies for another person.

By Ben Popken
“Coronavirus has the potential to become a global pandemic, temporarily emptying retail store shelves in the coming months and depressing some consumer-facing businesses, experts say, with government officials advising families to take measured steps to stock up on certain essentials.

A pandemic is the rapid spread of an infectious disease to a large amount of people in a short period of time across international boundaries.

Ahead of any pandemic, the Department of Homeland Security says families should check their prescription drug supplies, store two-week supplies of water and food and have non-prescription drugs and health supplies on hand, including pain relievers, cough and cold medicines and fluids with electrolytes.

Full coverage of the coronavirus outbreak

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention does not recommend that consumers buy masks, saying they should instead focus on regular hand-washing. The only people who would benefit from masks are those exhibiting symptoms, to help prevent them from transmitting the virus, and front-line health care workers.

Panicked hoarding could create shortages of otherwise sustainable supplies in a self-fulfilling "run on the bank" scenario. In one Italian town, videos showed panicked shoppers trading blows and stripping shelves of pasta and other staples“

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/u-s-could-see-some-empty-shelves-mid-april-if-n1144351

This is going to seem like an advert...but I am only sharing it in case some are preparing and they need a straightup guide to what disinfectants they should include in their prepping. Of course, make up your own minds, but a lot of folks need some direction, me being one of them.


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Chocolate. Get some chocolate. I don't eat it that often, but under stress my brain craves it. Needless to say I've been working my way through my day after Valentine's Day stash.

Yes, it's scientific.

Chocolate is a stress reliever
Because dopamine is released into your brain when you eat chocolate, it can actually lower your levels of stress. This is why people often crave chocolate in stressful situations, or crave it when they are in need of comfort or reassurance.

You also have the advantage over the Average Joe that will hit the stores in a panic and encounter long lines with panicky people more than likely and crying kids and more chances of getting sick, just by being in those lines! I worked for a brief time last year as a food demonstrator at Walmart and was there when a Hurricane was predicated. There was a huge run on water and we were all out.

When the truck came in with the water pallets, people were lined up in the store to grab cases, as you can imagine as the stock got lower and lower, huge fights started breaking out. It was amazing to me to watch how regular folks get so scared and worked up when they want something that they need and they might not get it, all civility goes out the door.

AndyP wrote: Thanks, I talked to my dad and I was surprised that he agreed we should stock up. I guess tomorrow I will go and buy a lot of food.

AndyP wrote: Thanks, I talked to my dad and I was surprised that he agreed we should stock up. I guess tomorrow I will go and buy a lot of food.

   Welcome to the forum Andy

   Make a list before you go and do a simple calculation of how far it will get you, as well as diversity. (make mental meals from what you have on your list)

   It helps a lot, rather than just go and fill the cart, get home and realize "darn, i bought all this tuna, and no mayo,crackers or bread"

   Also it helps to check for their specials online before you go, I snapped up a closeout of 30-40 mini cans of BBq, smoked, and buffalo seasoned Vienna sausages for .26 cents a can...major score! (kids hate the regular ones, but these were a hit)

I can't tell you what to do, that is your choice.

Generally, once there is a quarrantine ordered, the shops empty like lightening. The local authority will attempt to cover the shortfall, but could fail - especially in the short term.

In your shoes, I would definitely have a few days or weeks stored up - depending on my finances. Try to stick to the things you know you will eat. That way you can recoup your expences from the grocery bills you don't have. The power is likely to stay on for most of the time, but you could have a power cut or two in the short term, So a box of candles and a primus stove with a can or two is a good idea. Perhaps a hot water bottle if your folks feel the cold. Finally, some extra handwash and a high quality hand sanitiser (60% alcohol or more! Lower amounts do not work.).

Try, if possible, to get a bit ahead with the medicines you know you will need - stuff you and yours take regularily. Remember pet food.

That is about it. The maniac preppers among us (including me) have water, antibiotics, oxygen, gloves, smocks, boots, goggles and masks too. But that is probably because we are obsessive, not because they are going to be needed. Masks are specialist both in choice (n95 or ffp3) and use. If you do get one, learn how to put it on, test it and take it off, otherwise it is useless. Surgical masks protect other people, not you. Masks are also pointless without goggles; swim goggles are cheapest among the ones that seal off your eyes. Learn how to take gloves off too if you plan on using them.

You do not need a bug out bag for this type of problem. The best strategy in an outbreak is to SIP (Shelter In Place). The people that run encounter more other people whilst runnning; thereby both increasing their own risk and that of their community.

Learn also how to wash your hands fully and practice not touching your face. - The surgical mask does work for that.

Finally stay calm. The chances are good that you and yours will be fine. The chances simply increase if you prep a bit.

Just tried to order some extra dried type food, canned foods on walmart.com - out of stock now on many items. Didn't see that yesterday.

You rock Flumom! Love the color coded!

Also, write out instructions for who can take what and how much, if you are too sick to administer, you can share your instructions with someone else who can!
Also in another post- I’ve had patients use CBD oil quite successfully for anxiety and some types of seizures- again disclaimer to PLEASE do your homework when adding any meds (over the counter and when introducing new meds to others).

My latest addition is a “to do” list is a “to do” list for each family member. Based on what they would be able to do if things get stressful during even more last minute prepping. It will give them a sense of control and ease their minds they are “doing” something to contribute. I’ve started a bit now, showing one older child where everything is at, like my notebook with instructions and where things are kept about the house that might be helpful if I’m not around.

Good point!

The Fish Mox (amoxicillin) is cheaper on Walmart PetRX $13.99 for 100- 250mg, I just ordered some and some cipro the fish type. Read the reviews, most are from people using it. I tried to order some antibiotics from Canada without a prescription from the site Albert recommended and they cancelled the order right away.

Dang, I have a lot of this stuff because I needed it when my husband was dying.   Guess it was good i saved it all.

I found this somewhere. No recommendations, no warranties, express or implied.

For discussion purposes only.

In between activities checking in here at AFT during a few days away. DEFCON 6 purchases (gulp) I’ve just ordered a couple big blocks of Velveeta. We never eat that type of processed foods, but a meal of Mac and cheese may be the comfort food kids may enjoy. A few things I would normally buy or use getting checked off the list. Also a couple cases of healthier ingredient soups with pop top cans the kids could open if adults are sick. (If you have kids-make sure you have some items they can open and eat without cooking-risk of fire or burning themselves). Purchased some bulk container, dry beef and chicken gravies, could help stretch meats a bit more by way of flavor/texture over rice dishes. Also, a little pricier (around 15% more) buy some pastas with a full serving of veggies in the noodle. Could add some easy nutrition into the diet if rationing you’re veggies, any hint of veggie flavor for your picky eaters covered in sodium filled Velveeta

Hopefully your experience is not like the one I had yesterday, Pixie. Shelves were well picked over and I could only get half of what was on my list.

Kaiser was also asking if people traveled to China in the last 14 days, HoosierMom. They didn't do that at my appointment two weeks ago, so that's rather new. This was Urgent Care though so it made a bit more sense, I guess?

Good luck with all the guns in this country! People will not give up their preps without a fight.

Thank you! Sounds like I will have to play around with that a bit to get it right. Not sure it would help with the virus anyway, but sometimes the old stuff helped better than we may realize!

quietprepr wrote: Just had a shipment of freeze dried food arrive. Went to my local shop this morning and picked up a few self defense tools to add to the collection. Waiting on one more food delivery, vendor now says it will be delayed and their site is out of stock on most things. QP

LOL, nice, quote "and picked up a few self defense tools"

   We call those "gardening tools"

Nice info on the Vics. My grandmother, who lived thru the Spanish flu, swore by mustard plasters. I have no idea how to make them, but maybe I’ll look that up.