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    Posted: March 25 2020 at 10:55am

Hey Flu Mom. I just got my order from HFS today.

I didn't think I would get it either.

Tracking didn't show it had even been shipped yet!

I ordered the same day as you.

Cross your fingers.

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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

I may not get mine either.  Mumbi can’t eve spell it I have no idea if it will get here,

Hey FluMom, guess what I got in the mail today...after  being told they canceled my order, turns out they billed me twice!  I am now thrilled to have it as our state is getting pummeled.  

Nobody knows what is open, who is supposed to be and this changes by the hour in our supposedly locked down state.  I saw things today at the grocery that made me cringe.  Kids out shopping at the grocer and a sign that said carts are disinfected daily, no wipes at debit pen or card machine!??? I guess enough people will have to die before the powers get real  serious about shutting EVERYTHING down.  Oh well, came home, ditched the clothes in the washer and took a shower after wiping everything down.

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Since my order of chloroquine was cancelled by the company that Albert and others successfully ordered from I went ahead and ordered from this one that Albert tried yesterday. 

I have to say that it does cause me some trepidation as I’ve never ordered from an online pharmacy before but desperate times and all that. And I used the Amex so that made it much easier to swallow. 

Hopefully it comes in the 5-9 business days they promised and the pills will actually be what they say they are should we ever need them (God forbid). 

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You are the least of their worries!

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I hate to ask, but will I have men in suits knocking on my door if I order something like this?  

I'm in texas.  And paranoid about government and all their rules and regulations.  

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Well we will see!  I will report I am to get it in 5 -9 days I paid $30.00 to get it faster and traceable.

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Not saying they aren’t legit but I did find this advisory on them...


https://rxadviser.net/reviews/stock-orders-com-reviews/

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He just ordered from this new spot.

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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

OK, so I talked to someone to verify and asked that they change my package to traceable.  Did not receive my email that my package is traceable.  Tried calling again but no answer on either phone number...so I emailed them.   Interesting see if I get any email back...we may be in a fake site.

Didn't Albert receive his from there? Seems I recall he did.

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OK, so I talked to someone to verify and asked that they change my package to traceable.  Did not receive my email that my package is traceable.  Tried calling again but no answer on either phone number...so I emailed them.   Interesting see if I get any email back...we may be in a fake site.

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Not sure this is a real company, I ordered two different times got the same order number.  I think this may not be real.  Will have to dispute if not real.

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I just did an order from here yesterday.  First time and have never used them.     http://stock-orders.com/order-aralen-online-en.html

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Thanks

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I normally get liquid zinc, amazon was out of my brand but I found I can buy them at their normal website (as of two days ago).  I'm in the states.  I think it was 12 dollars... for 1770mg zinc total.  The brand is sensable supplements (taste 'n score).  On a related note I'm about to make my second post which will probably be extremely stupid, but I would like to see if the more scientifically advanced people can offer any insight as to just HOW stupid my idea is about getting zinc to penetrate the cell membrane.

BTW hi all, my first post.  I've been lurking for a while though.

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I ordered today. 60 tablets of 400mg for $320. Not sure if they'll make it or not but it was worth a shot...

http://www.kiwiquickmeds.com/




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Please be careful with those dosages of Hydroxychloroquine. The study I read out of southern France said 600mg once per day for 6 days with Zithromax stops Covid-19 in its tracks. Also read that over 1000mg/day of chloroquine can be toxic. Seems like there is a sweet spot for Chloroquine Phosphate and/or Hydroxychloroquine. Definitely not an expert, so I plan on consulting with a doctor before I self-administer... assuming one is available when I or a family member gets this thing while there are drug shortages. My family is SIP until testing is full swing so we don't waste critical supplies on normal ailments. 

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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

Grocery Store, drug store.

. Walmart and amazon are out. 

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Grocery Store, drug store.

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By the way. Does anyone know how to make or where to get zinc lozenges?

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So I bought tonic water even though it has little quinine in it. They were out at Meijer and had limited supply at walmart. Maybe people are buying quinine. Maybe people are just buying whatever water they can find. Or maybe the suppliers are just busy shipping other stuff.

Anyway the liquor store had plenty.

Im figuring out what is best to mix it with since it taste oddly both horrible and appealing at the same time. Ive done lime, amaretto, and coffee. Each has benefits and drawbacks. Plain is an option too.

I take a zinc pill with it because Chris Martin says it works by transporting zinc into the cell thereby inhibiting the viruses ability to replicate.

So Im just old enough that my prostate slows my urine stream. I take pygeum for that and if I dont take two doses per day for a couple of days it doesnt do much.

The last two days my stream has been really good. I was wondering why because I was not doing a good job keeping up with the pygeum.

Then I remembered that zinc is supposed to be good for this. I had tried it in the past but did not have noticeable results.

I think the quinine is helpng the zinc to remedy my prostate issues. And that encourages me to think it is helpng zinc to do its jobs in my body.

Guess ill watch it more. 

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I may not get mine either.  Mumbi can’t eve spell it I have no idea if it will get here,

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You are more than welcome FluMom. Hope it gets to you soon. Thinking WA is going to order a lockdown within the next day or two so I'm wondering if the mail is still going to be delivered when that happens, so I might not get mine if they don't. 

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Originally posted by AI AI wrote:

Originally posted by ozarkcountryboy ozarkcountryboy wrote:

I have a tracking number but don't know who the shipper is to track.

Could you tell who they are using?

I ordered the same day you guys did.

Thanks.

India Post and then to USPS when it gets to the US. 

Might try this site https://t.17track.net/

It's where my tracking number works. 

Looks like it got to Mumbai on 3/18/2020 so maybe I might get it?

Thank you AI here is what it says:   Thank you again AI

Destination - Tracking consuming: 383 ms
Origin - Tracking consuming: 12905 ms

MUMBAI AIRPORT SORTING OFFICE, Item Bagged

MUMBAI AIRPORT SORTING OFFICE, Item Received

BNPL SP Hub Mumbai, Item Dispatched

BNPL SP Hub Mumbai, Item Bagged

BNPL SP Hub Mumbai, Item Booked



  




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Originally posted by ozarkcountryboy ozarkcountryboy wrote:

I have a tracking number but don't know who the shipper is to track.

Could you tell who they are using?

I ordered the same day you guys did.

Thanks.

India Post and then to USPS when it gets to the US. 

Might try this site https://t.17track.net/

It's where my tracking number works. 

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If you did not pay for the tracking which I was not offered we just have to wait is what I understand from them.  Sorry can't tell you more, we are all in the same boat!

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I have a tracking number but don't know who the shipper is to track.

Could you tell who they are using?

I ordered the same day you guys did.

Thanks.

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Well I saw it here first. Was not comfortable buying the bark nor getting anything from an unregulated country. I bought tonic water. Not much quinine in it but it builds up in your ststem and some might be better than nothing. Also not exactly the same chemical but ...

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Here is what the study said that Kaye Kaye posted:


Antiviral therapies:

Chloroquine phosphate (adult 18-65 years old weighing more than 110 lbs: 500 mg twice daily for 7 days; 

body weight less than 110 lbs: 500 mg twice daily for day 1 and 2, 500 mg once daily for day 3 through 7) …

 

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My take on it:  "Oh Doc, Can't you get enough?  Well I have mine, can you monitor the dose for me, please?"

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Chloroquinine is a balance.  It has to be the right dose.

High enough to cause acidification of cell organelles to stop viral replication, BUT not so much as to cause immunosuppression.( remember it is used in autoimmunity especially lupus and RA as a powerful immuno modulator.  At certain doses it dampens down the immunresponse too much).  

So kill virus but dont suppress immune system, because this drug does both.

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Received this email just now!  So I am hoping that what he said is true.  If not I will dispute the charge.  At least they emailed me back!   I did change numbers and name to protect the innocent....LOL!


Dear FluMom,

thank you for your email,

your tracking number 123456 is valid unfortunately for the shipping option, you selected online tracking is not available your order was shipped out on 03.03.2020 Due to delays caused by COVID-19 the Estimated date of arrival at the post office for your package is 05 Apr 2020 - 11 Apr 2020.

Sincerely,

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Perhaps it's been discussed, but it seems hydroxychloroquine is better tolerated than chloroquine, and was especially effective when used with a z-pack (zithromax) from some recent reports I've seen. Thoughts?

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Well supposedly mine mailed but then again I have heard that before LOL. And like I said I doubt it'll get here before the lock down, possible not probable though.

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Well, as soon as I hear back from HFS I will tell you what they say.  Hey look if they did not ship we tried and I will dispute the charge, I put it on American Express so they will return the money.

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Originally posted by AI AI wrote:

Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

Your order has been shipped on the 3rd of March by Registered Air Mail.

Your shipping number is: 123456  (Not the real number guys)

Delivery takes 2-3 weeks.

Enjoy your life!

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Same one I got FluMom. They lied, it never shipped out when they said it did and they even provided a tracking number for an item they hadn't even mailed yet said they had.  Check your tracking number, it'll either not have any info or it'll say it was mailed a couple days ago I'm betting.

Yep, mine was supposedly mailed March 2.  Took them till the past Monday to tell me they canceled the order; I had heard they were not going to ship any more out of country to save it for their own.  That was a news source not HFS.

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Just emailed to the email to sent me and to customer service.  I will tell you if they get back to me!

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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

AI  were do I check the number at USPS.  Where???    USPS does not track from India is what I just got!!!  So where do you check this?

Email customer service and ask for shipping confirmation and a valid tracking number. 

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AI  were do I check the number at USPS.  Where???    USPS does not track from India is what I just got!!!  So where do you check this?

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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

Your order has been shipped on the 3rd of March by Registered Air Mail.

Your shipping number is: 123456  (Not the real number guys)

Delivery takes 2-3 weeks.

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Same one I got FluMom. They lied, it never shipped out when they said it did and they even provided a tracking number for an item they hadn't even mailed yet said they had.  Check your tracking number, it'll either not have any info or it'll say it was mailed a couple days ago I'm betting.

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Your order has been shipped on the 3rd of March by Registered Air Mail.

Your shipping number is: 123456  (Not the real number guys)

Delivery takes 2-3 weeks.

Enjoy your life!

Smile a lot!

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Originally posted by Albert Albert wrote:

Originally posted by AI AI wrote:

Originally posted by Albert Albert wrote:

lol.... thanks techno.  I agreed that we have some pretty sharp people here.  JD may be the weak link, but it's all gooooood.     

FM - meant to message you and to follow-up.  The other day I disputed the charge, and for the heck of it I tried the tracking # today and mine was sent out two days ago.  It's just now leaving India after 3 weeks.  

Same here,  was supposed to have been mailed on the 1st,  just mailed 2 days ago. I thought it was coming from Canada, not so. I have very little faith in it getting here before things shut all the way down though.


It will be close.  It usually get's held up in customs for a few days at JFK.  It should be another 10 days or so, so it should be ok.  


I'm not sure we have ten days. I think within a week possibly less Washington state will be locked down where I am located. Once an entire state locks down the others will quickly follow suit I think.

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