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EdwinSm,
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Posted: March 24 2020 at 10:40pm |
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WARNING part
"Just doing what Trump said" part:
Did they miss-hear what Trump said, or was he giving out dangerous advice, or was it a bit of both? *edited to add link: Link to BBC report |
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Darwin award nominees? |
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A bit of both. Trump did jump the gun. Chloroquine does seem to fight the virus, especially in conjunction with azithromycin and zinc, but there has not been time for a proper randomised, peer reviewed, double blind trial. So it is occasionally used as a 'compassionate' drug. 'Compassionate' drugs are tried when the patient will die anyway under a: "It might just work" ethic. It has not been used that much obviously - who wants to be sued? "That drug killed my relative!" "No it was the virus." "Prove it!" So there is not much evidence either way yet. Although chloroquine is actually quite promising, it does have side-effects and a very narrow dosing range. It accumulates in cells and so with prolonged use can become toxic. 500 mg twice daily is thrown out as a general term. But that level for longer than a week would be very toxic. It would also quickly become toxic in conjunction with some other drugs (for instance probenacid). Likewise it would also be more toxic in underweight people. It is likeky that the couple who drank fish tank cleaner, did so without clear dosing, a certified product, or a check of either their bodyweight or regular drugs. They could also have kidney or liver problems to complicate things further. Giving your doctor permission to 'experiment' on you with the drug is a whole different ball game. One you are more likely to win. |
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This incident is a cautionary tale. There is something called a drug formulary...people need to check the drug ingredients they are ingesting are specifically meant for human consumption and the product contains the proper amounts cleared for use in humans. The drug Trump was referring to clearly was not the one these folks used. |
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See, Sheep Lady, Techno, common sense! Lack of it sometimes kills. |
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Trump shuts down Dr Fauci from responding to question. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/04/06/coronavirus-fauci-trumpdrugs/ |
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They were just dumb Evolution in action idiots. Hydrooxychloroquine |
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