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By Scott Weese on May 20, 2020 In the midst of outbreaks of COVID-19 on at least 5 mink farms in the Netherlands, a Reuters article reports that Dutch Agricultural Minister Carola Schouten issued a letter to parliament indicating that a farm worker was infected BY the mink. More clarity about that would be good. From a biological standpoint, mink-human transmission wouldn’t be surprising. Figuring out who a person got infected from can be a challenge in the community. |
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Tabitha111 from Scott Weese I can find [url]https://ovc.uoguelph.ca/pathobiology/people/faculty/Scott-Weese[/url] do you have a link ? "plausible" is the way the RIVM/Dutch CDC talks-(it is winter outside, freezing and "something white" "could be snow"). In the Dutch press they mention at least one case of mink-human infection (based on sequencing)-possibly more... [url]https://www.rivm.nl/en/novel-coronavirus-covid-19/pets[/url] is the older version of the Dutch version. There it says:
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Josh- here - |
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Sounds like payback to me. Just saying... |
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Tabitha111-thanks for the link-interesting. Did you had any trouble with "TS Arthur" ? |
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Josh, no...just a lot of rain and super windy today as the tail end moves away...nothing we are not used to here on the coast. I love when it rains!! Very cool outside too...60 degrees, feels like New England. |
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Tabitha, we are in the lower 80's-28C today, extreme drought , brown grass-not realy new but also not very good...our cat loves it ! |
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DJ-In february the Dutch CDC=RIVM claimed Covid19 would not reach the NL since there were no direct flights from Wuhan. Again jumping from animals to humans is very serious-even in minks-close to ferrets-known to catch the virus easy (via cats ?) A second fur farm worker in the Netherlands is now ‘extremely likely’ to have been infected with Covid-19 by a mink, farming minister Carola Schouten has told MPs. In addition, the minister said, she will announce later this week what measures are to be taken at the country’s mink farms on the basis of findings by veterinary experts. ‘All possible measures are under consideration,’ the minister said. The animal to human infection has taken place on one of the fur farms where mink were found earlier to have coronavirus, but the infection happened before this was known, the minister said. In addition, seven of the 24 cats tested so far have now been found to have coronavirus antibodies, she said. According to local paper Brabants Dagblad, vets have written to the minister criticising her strategy for dealing with coronavirus on fur farms and say that all the mink on some farms will have to be killed to prevent the virus spreading further. They are particularly concerned about one fur farm in Deurne where the owner, his wife and daughter all have coronavirus. He told the paper that he had repeatedly asked for an investigation after a large number of animals developed breathing problems and died. ‘I wear protection but am being exposed to the virus via my animals,’ he said. ‘What are the risks to my family and to people’s health?’ The farmer in question may well be the second person to be infected by a mink, the paper said. |
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DJ-On [url]https://www.q-koorts.nl/over-q-koorts/historie/[/url] there is a map of the 2007 (largest ever global) Q-fever outbreak. (With possibly over a 100.000 cases). When you look at the present Covid19 map for the NL the epicenter is in the same area. From [url]https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q-koortsepidemie_in_Nederland[/url] ;
DJ-What I would hate to find out; -Since the mink-to-human transfer did take place in the epicentre of Covid19 in NL-with also the first reported cases, did minks get infected already in end february/early march ???? -Did the virus from the minks spread out over a larger area and infect hundreds/thousends of people ? -Did the virus spread to cats (from minks and/or humans) and will the virus go cat-to-cat, maybe become endemic ? The RIVM played down the q-fever outbreak, now claims "minimum risks" with unprecedented two mink-to-human transfers. Local farmers, GP's, veterenarians are pushing for an investigation but the RIVM does not show much interest. This story could be bigger than what we are told now (with some government agencies trying to hide their mistakes). |
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[url]https://nltimes.nl/2020/05/25/mink-farms-3-people-infected-coronavirus-animals[/url] ; There may have been another case of mink to human coronavirus transmission at a second mink farm in the Netherlands. Three people who work at this mink farm have a coronavirus that has a genetic code very similar to the virus found in minks on the farm, Ministers Carola Schouten of Agriculture and Hugo de Jonge of Public Health said in a letter to parliament. So a second farm and there three infections ? "On the basis of the information available, it is most likely that at least one of the three infected persons was infected by a mink," the Ministers said. The other two may have gotten the virus from the first infected person, or also from a mink. Based on the available data, that is impossible to say, the Ministers said. DJ-So three persons infected A-3xmink human or 1xmink human-then 2x that human to other humans ? Schouten reported the first possible case of mink to human coronavirus transmission at a Dutch mink farm last week. In the meantime, the RIVM investigated everyone that this mink farm worker had contact with and found that none of them had a coronavirus with a genetic code that matches the one the farm worker has. "This supports the conclusion that it is plausible that there was a contamination of mink on human," the Ministers said on Monday. (DJ-First case) According to the Ministers, in this second case too the infection "probably" happened before it was known that the mink on the farm had the coronavirus, and thus before workers were instructed to wear protective gear. "The RIVM has indicated that the correct and consistent use of personal protective equipment in the stables of an infected mink farm prevents infection. The RIVM also assessed that the risk of human exposure to the virus outside the stable is negligible and that has not changed due to this new research result," the Ministers said. |
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How close geneticly are ferrets to minks? In Wuhan, people were killing their cats...... Did/do they know something we don't.....? It's really not that far fetched to think it can jump species,and back again.. i mean that's how we got into this situation..... And,who knows what recombination comes forth!!???? |
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Dutch Mink Farm COVID-19 Update By Scott Weese on May 26, 2020 The outbreaks that have occurred on at least 5 Dutch mink farms are pretty interesting. As described by ProMedMail, the Dutch Agriculture Minister has provided another report -Dutch version here: https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/regering/bewindspersonen/carola-schouten/documenten/kamerstukken/2020/05/25/kamerbrief-ontwikkelingen-covid-19-op-nertsenbedrijven Another suspected mink-to-human transmission has been identified (with potentially two others on the farm). This appears to be from a different farm than the first suspected mink-human infection. The route of transmission is presumed to be mink-to-human based on the gene sequences. The sequence data I saw earlier seem consistent with that, but it’s hard to be 100% certain. There’s also some more information about barn cats. On mink farms, cats would rarely have direct contact with mink (mink would try to eat them if any part of the cat was within reach), but they would have access to mink manure, which typically falls from wire cage flooring to the ground. While a lot needs to be determined with these outbreaks, information to date highlights some important themes SARS-CoV-2 is predominantly a human virus but it can spill back into other animals While most transmission is human-human, some infected animals can send the virus back to people, and infect other animals. (That shouldn’t come as a surprise, although sadly the One Health response to this virus has been pretty disappointing.) Keeping infected people away from animals, as well as from other people, is important. It’s better to prevent human-animal infection than to have to figure out how to deal with infected animals and worry about spread into wildlife. Reducing the number and closeness of interactions, be they human-human, human-animal or animal-animal (within reason) and using practical precautions when distancing can’t be maintained (e.g. masks, use of gloves and other protective equipment when handling animals in high risk situations) are the key control measures for this virus. The fact that there are multiple affected farms in the Netherlands but no reports elsewhere needs to be considered. |
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DJ-On one farm there are 50 people working, cats like the mink food (and may deal with mice that mink can not eat/reach). I find it all a crazy-typical Dutch story. You would expect other countries to have large Q-fever, legionella, outbreaks-somehow the Dutch find a way to get extreme outbreaks. Even if a virus jumped from a mink to a human-and than that person infected two other persons-the virus load was strong enough to cause infections. My gut feeling is that there is (a lot) more on/in this story (and lots of groups that do not want much attention for it). Good that Scot Weese is also trying to get info. In the letter the agriculture-minister send to parlement it is also mentioned tests were taken in the enviroment of the two farms to see if the mink-virus did infect people living nearby. The covid-19 cases living in the area had not a virus that came from a mink. At what time cats (with antibodies) were infected remains unclear. (So also the question did a cat get infected by a human and spread it to the minks ?). [url]https://www.omroepbrabant.nl/nieuws/3209171/poolvossen-uit-nertsenfokkerij-twee-weken-onder-de-pannen-in-zoo-veldhoven[/url] At one farm there were also five polar foxes "as a hobby"-they are now in quarantine in a nearby zoo. (Most likely not infected-maybe illegally held). [url]https://www.omroepbrabant.nl/nieuws/3209301/besmette-nertsenfokkerijen-worden-nog-niet-geruimd-maar-is-ook-geen-taboe[/url] In Dutch parlement opposition-with Animal Rights Party in the lead-remind the minister of the Q-fever outbreak and demand action (=end mink farms). [url]https://www.bd.nl/politiek/minister-ruimen-van-besmette-nertsenfokkerijen-is-geen-taboe~ab2cdfb8/[/url] Opposition parties fear reservoir for the virus in minks. |
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Personally, I would be in favor of the "no mink farms" ...why have them if they are a danger for outbreaks? Just like the Chinese wet markets! |
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DJ-No mink farms would include killing all the mink-puppies just born.....but we have to end this idiocy ! Not only for healthrisks but also for ethical reasons ! [url]https://www.omroepbrabant.nl/nieuws/3209386/besmette-nertsenfokkerij-ruimen-honden-en-katten-ophokken-gemeente-luidt-noodklok[/url] The municipality-counsel of the municipality were one of the infected farms is did make four conclusions; 1-Corona at a mink farm is culling the minks 2-All the cats and dogs in a 500 meter radius of the infected farm have to stay inside (a bit late for that-but basic idea is good) 3-In susspected cases warningsigns around the farm 4-Direct action-not just after a week. DJ-Problem with this is that maybe even warning signs are not a matter of the municipality...the government should act (and pay). If Covid19 starts spreading via animals (cats, rabbits, ferrets [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferret[/url] domisticated polecats) in NW Europe we know how it started.... |
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DJ-At least some steps-in my opinion the only safe option is ending ALL mink farming. (And yes that means those minks will be killed earlier-killing animals for fur I find disgusting-should have ended years ago. ) It is good they see the risk of virus-spread in cats, etc. but the only way to deal with it is stop mink-farming. [url]https://nltimes.nl/2020/05/28/ban-mink-transports-barn-visits-covid-research[/url] Mink can no longer be transported in the Netherlands, nor can people visit the animals on farms, according to a letter by two prominent ministers directed to the parliament on Thursday. The new guidelines, laid out by the Ministers of Health and Agriculture, Hugo de Jonge and Carola Schouten respectively, are designed to minimize the risk of animal-to-human transmission of Covid-19. In effect, they put an end to the transport of mink and mink manure, ensure that hygiene protocols are in place for people exposed to the animals, and ban visitors from entering barns where mink are kept. "These measures concern all mink farms in the Netherlands and not only those where there is an infection found it," added the ministers. In addition, the guidelines stipulate that mink farmers must prevent dogs, cats and ferrets from entering and leaving mink farms as much as possible, and recommend that mink farmers with symptoms of illness be tested for Covid-19. Schouten and De Jonge added that they will draw up a more complete recommendation after the Outbreak Management Team's zoonosis arm convenes next week. "All measures imaginable will be considered. We inform the House [of Representatives] on this as soon as possible next week," they wrote. The news follows after weeks of concern around the risk of mink-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus, with Schouten asserting last week that a link between the two is plausible. Earlier this month, the government also made screening for Covid-19 antibodies compulsory for mink farmers, in order to keep an eye on the risk. |
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https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/ferrets-potential-ally-in-the-search-for-coronavirus-vaccine/ This is why I asked if ferrets and mink are related geneticly? |
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Yes, both are musterlids; as are badgers, otters, polecat, stoats, weasel and pine martins. From Wikipedia (demonstrating how poor my attempt to spell musterlid is) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mink Mink
and Ferret https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferret
That is about as close as two separate species gets - appart from sub species. They might even be co-fertile, although offspring would probably be mules (ie. sterile). |
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Ergo..... Highly probable That minks are a vector..... Can you imagine if it gets into native wildlife..... |
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DJ-There seems to be an outbreak of disease in [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_hedgehog[/url] cases reported in southern NL and Belgium (the mink covid19 outbreak is in southern part of NL). (DJ-Maybe relation with [url]https://www.gardenwildlifehealth.org/portfolio/erinaceus-coronavirus-infection-in-hedgehogs/[/url] ????) From the Dutch Hedgehog fund/group via translate [url]https://www.egelbescherming.nl/nieuws/onbekende-besmettelijke-egelziekte-rukt-op/[/url] Some symptoms sound like Covid19 (???) ([url]https://www.dwhc.nl/en/[/url] )
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DJ-Another 3 (possible 4) mink farms with Covid19 (translate) ; |
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[url]https://nltimes.nl/2020/06/03/mink-coronavirus-infected-farms-culled-report[/url] ; All the mink on Dutch mink farms infected with the coronavirus will be culled in the interest of public health, sources in The Hague said to RTL Nieuws. This involves thousands of animals from six companies with a total of eight locations in Gemert-Bakel, Laarbeek, Deurne, and Sint Anthonis, the broadcaster reported. The cabinet will publish a letter about this later on Wednesday. The expectation is that the mink will be culled shortly after the decision is officially announced. They will be gassed in installations already on the farms - the animals are normally gassed before they are stripped of their fur, according to the broadcaster. Last week experts said in a parliamentary briefing that the infected farms could pose a risk to public health. Especially if the coronavirus is in decline among the population, a reservoir in mink farms could be a real problem. There have been at least two Netherlands cases of a mink farm worker getting the coronavirus from a mink, which then could have been passed on to others. All mink farms are currently being investigated for the coronavirus and possible animal-to-human transmission. Strict safety measures apply at all infected companies. Mink farms will be banned in the Netherlands from 2024, according to a decision made in 2013. The breeders will not be compensated for the animals that are culled, RTL Nieuws reported. The COVID-19 situation in the Dutch mink industry continues to evolve. Dutch authorities are now reporting outbreaks on 8 farms (with one more suspected), as part of their broader investigation of the industry. After identifying outbreaks on multiple farms, broader national surveillance was started, declaring this a reportable disease and starting routine testing on mink that die unexpectedly. Today, it was apparently decided that all mink on affected farms will be culled. That’s been under discussion for a while and it’s not overly surprising given the large numbers of affected mink and identification of mink-human transmission. I wouldn’t be completely surprised to see all mink farms depopulated in the Netherlands. The industry is being closed down in the country, with a 2024 deadline. So, discussion of speeding up that timeframe isn’t surprising if this continues to spread to and on farms. I’ve heard that the impending ban has largely resulted in shifting production to some eastern European countries (with fewer restrictions, so probably no better, if not worse, for mink overall). Transportation of mink has been banned in the Netherlands, so presumably it will just be mink farmers, not mink, that migrate. What’s going on on Chinese mink farms is also a concern, since China accounts for a large percentage of global mink production. Fortunately, not many people or other animals have contact with mink. Mink seem particularly susceptible….a good reminder of why we need to pay attention to emerging diseases and consider potential host ranges. If other domestic animals or wildlife were as susceptible as mink, that would create an even bigger problem than we have now. (DJ-Also interesting but off-topic [url]https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/2020/06/articles/animals/dogs/sars-cov-2-in-dogs-usa/[/url]) |
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DJ-By government plans mink-farming will end in 2024. Infected farms now have their minks killed/gassed. But government is not willing to stop restarting these farms within some months. |
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DJ-No news yet of new mink-to-human transfer cases. With four new farms being infected-employees getting tested-those numbers may go up. also no further news on infection from mink into cats, hedgehogs, rabbits etc. (DJ-Makes me wonder if they are testing for it.)[url]https://nltimes.nl/2020/06/10/coronavirus-infections-another-four-mink-farms[/url] ; Animals at another four mink farms in Noord-Brabant and Limburg were found to have the coronavirus, Minister Carola Schouten of Agriculture said in a letter to parliament. The mink on the farms will be culled and destroyed, NOS reports. The farms involved are located in Landhorst in the municipality of Sint Anthonis, in Volkel and in Casternay. In total, the coronavirus was found at 13 farms in the Netherlands. Three of the four new outbreaks were identified by investigating mink carcasses - breeders are obliged to send carcasses in for this investigation weekly. The fourth was identified after a report. There have also been a handful of cases of mink farm workers getting the coronavirus from the animals. The NVWA started culling the animals at the infected mink farms last week. The authority can do to or three companies per day. The mink on the newly infected farms will be killed this week. The source of the new infections is not yet known, Schouten said. The authority on consumer product safety and food quality NVWA is investigating. Employees can be tested for the virus. [url]https://www.furfreealliance.com/[/url] |
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Probably not testing..... Do we really want to know.... Lol |
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[url]https://www.furfreealliance.com/dutch-mps-voted-overwhelmingly-in-favour-of-shutting-down-mink-fur-farms-in-the-netherlands/[/url] DJ-The cabinet /government does-for the moment-not follow that decission-first wants to "evaluate". [url]https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/veterinary-science-and-veterinary-medicine/rabbit-haemorrhagic-disease[/url] and [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_hemorrhagic_disease[/url] maybe jumped to hedgehogs ? (So Covid19 did not go that way ????) (Thanks Newbie1A for putting this newsitem on the forum) DJ-I have not seen any further infected NL mink cases being reported-maybe it is seen as "old news" or maybe there are no new findings. Covid19 spreading to other animals is a major concern. [url]http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-06/21/c_139154489.htm[/url] In Denmark also a dog was infected at a minkfarm recently ? (Must be the DK press release [url]https://www.outlookindia.com/newsscroll/covid19-spreads-to-another-mink-farm-in-denmark-as-dog-found-infected/1872602[/url] "journalism at its best") |
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[url]https://nltimes.nl/2020/07/03/coronavirus-found-another-mink-farm-animals-culled[/url] and [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/07/coronavirus-found-in-mink-in-18th-fur-farm-ministry-not-planning-to-end-industry-early/[/url] DJ-Mink farms have to report if minks show any symptoms-this 18th case came to light this way. Earlier recent cases were found in dead minks send to laboratory to be tested. I believe we may have around 140 minkfarms in NL. Of them now 18 had infections-13% of the farms. The first reported cases were from half of may-so in 1,5 month we did see infection in 13% of all the minkfarms in NL-including the largest one. I do not know the exact number of minks involved but maybe up to 20% of all the Dutch minks may have been culled by now. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mink_industry_in_Denmark[/url] In Denmark fur-industry is seen as a major economic activity ? In NL it will have ended by 2024 by law-may end sooner by Covid19. |
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DJ-There were 128 "fur-farms" in NL in 2019-most of them keep minks. Of them now 20 did see Covid19 infections. [url]https://nltimes.nl/2020/07/06/yet-another-mink-farm-infected-coronavirus-12000-animals-culled[/url] (DJ-I believe in case 19-saturday-also a farm dog tested positive). : Mink on a mink farm in Gemert, Noord-Brabant, were found to be infected with the coronavirus. The 12 thousand mink on the farm will be culled on Monday, the Ministries of Public Health and Agriculture announced. That brings the total Dutch mink farms with coronavirus outbreaks to 20. On Saturday, the coronavirus was found at another mink farm in Gemert with 7 thousand animals. And last week the same happened at a farm in Landhorst, also in Noord-Brabant. The animals at 18 of the 20 infected farms have already been culled. The two in Gemert will happen today. Responsible Ministers Hugo de Jonge of Public Health and Carola Schouten of Agriculture decided that all animals on infected farms had to be killed, because there have been cases of mink-to-human transmission. The Ministers also implemented a national ban on transporting mink. No visitors are allowed in the stables, and strict hygiene protocols were implemented. The cabinet is also working on a scheme to help mink farmers voluntarily terminate their business. Mink farming will be illegal in the Netherlands from 2024. According to broadcaster NOS, the Netherlands counted 128 companies farming fur animals last year. In practice, these are mainly mink farms. Most breeding farms are in Noord-Brabant, with the municipality of Gemert-Bakel being known as the "mink capital". |
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How many will "voluntarily" terminate their business? Isn't mink farming very lucrative? Of course, having to cull all the mink is probably hurting them greatly. |
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Tabitha111, I think the Dutch government has not yet decided on what compensation to offer if mink-farmers stop. They do get a compensation if minks need to be killed because of Covid19. Stopping all mink-transports is also not making this kind of "bussiness" go well. [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/07/coronavirus-found-on-two-more-mink-farms-19000-animals-destroyed/[/url] As far as I know/believe (I do not have the facts) the demand for fur-products most likely is decreasing. Fur production may be shifting to low cost countries-were there may also be a market for fur products (Ukraine, Russia etc) and less rules a.o. on animal wellbeing. Fur coats are not very popular-but fur in gloves, shoes etc still may find a market. Here in the NL fur production is concentrated in a "poorer"part of the SE of the country. Large catholic families (religion matters in this story because of familyseize-often more than 10 children in one family up till the 60's/70's-the picture I have of mink farms is that most of them are relatively small run by over 50y/o-in that way the future is already limited) on not that good land for other production did bring al kind of animal "production"in a relative small concentrated area. From pigs to minks-but also a lot of people emigrated around the globe from this area in the last decades. Still this area has limited high/rail-way connections. [url]https://www.furfreealliance.com/fur-farming/[/url] Pressure groups sometimes forget about the socio-economic background. These farms do provide a lot of low education-jobs. Solutions will cost a lot of money and no one seems to be willing to invest in these area's. Basically I think Dutch politics will go for the low cost hard solution-let the mink farms go bankrupt by limiting their possibilities and international competition. Covid19 is "helping" in that-in my opinion-unfair strategy. It increases population risks but saves the government several millions... |
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DJ-In short-another two mink farms infected with Covid19. Minks will get killed and destroyed. Total of 22 farms of 128 infected. "Safety region" is calling for an end of all mink farming in their area-with as a precaution all minks killed/destroyed (and no restarting with new minks-so end of mink-fur farming). No English links yet. |
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From a different part of the world...
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I think folks on here (I don't see this much anywhere else) are going to be so educated on mink and mink farms!
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I think this is important considering if this virus made the leap to minks, what other animals can it make the leap to. Wild minks? Weasles, badgers, ferrets? The last thing we need is a wild reservoir when we don't even have a viable treatment to this virus. |
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I agree. Which is why I keep reporting on animal issues. They do not get as much attention and I feel they are very important. |
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DJ-[url]https://www.gelderlander.nl/binnenland/advies-alle-nertsenfokkerijen-preventief-ruimen-als-besmettingen-nog-een-maand-aanhouden~aacb9afd/[/url] Basic-if outbreaks continu till mid august on Dutch mink farms the Dutch "Outbreak Management Team OMT" calls for ending mink-farming to avoid a reservoir for the virus getting created. [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/07/coronavirus-infestation-spreads-to-25th-dutch-mink-farm/[/url] ; Coronavirus has been detected on another mink farm in the Netherlands, bringing the total to 25. The agriculture ministry confirmed that cubs being prepared for transport on the farm in Westerbeek, Noord-Brabant, tested positive for the virus. All 1,100 adult females and their young will be put down. The government tightened transport restrictions for mink on 10 July in the light of previous outbreaks. So far more than a million animals have been destroyed as a result of coronavirus infections. The mink farming industry is being scaled down and is due to be abolished in 2024. |
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DJ-By now close to 20% of Dutch mink-farms did see Covid19-infection. [url]https://nltimes.nl/2020/07/27/coronavirus-another-mink-farm-26-nl-farms-infected[/url]; Given the several weeks long incubation period of SARS-CoV-2, the Ministries believe that some new infections will still be found in the coming weeks. If there are still new infections after mid-August, the government will have to consider proactively culling mink on fur farms, instead of doing so only after an infection was confirmed, the Ministers said last week. All 3,500 adult female mink on the farm in Oploo, in the municipality of Sint Anthonius near Helmond, will be exterminated as a precaution. More than a million mink have been killed since the virus was first found in May. Several farm workers are thought to have been infected by the animals. Meanwhile, volunteers at the Pieterburen seal sanctuary in northern Groningen have gone into quarantine as a precaution after one of their colleagues from Switzerland tested positive for coronavirus. The sanctuary has been closed to visitors from Monday. Anyone who bought tickets in advance will be refunded. ‘All our colleagues are needed now to ensure the seals can be looked after in our rehabilitation centre,’ said the organisers in a statement. |
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