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carbon20
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Posted: May 09 2021 at 3:00pm |
Business Standard: Covid: Australias borders to remain closed indefinitely, says PM Morrison. |
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From another forum I am on: |
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We had 5k new arrivals from Sydney lining up to get tested , Good on them doing the RIGHT thing .... Our borders shut again to people from NSW.... Stay safe all |
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Here in NZ is the following news story about people fleeing Sydney ahead of the new restrictions. Surely they'll be taking the virus with them to the rest of Australia? |
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Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesnβt accord with the facts.
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BBC News - Covid in Sydney: New restrictions announced as outbreak grows |
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Dutch Josh
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A false positive=a FALSE positive-so (what I understand) no immunity against HIV...(treatment in HIV/AIDS still is trying to limit spread, limit symptoms...but a vaccine is still far away..). If-by "accident" we would discover a vaccine against HIV this would be very welcome good news...HIV/AIDS this year killed almost the same number of people-so far-then Covid19 [url]https://www.worldometers.info/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/ 1,605,000 HIV/AIDS-Covid19/SARS2 1,620,000... |
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If it creates HIV anitbodies, will it protect against HIV as well? I understand the problems of communication and the need for extra HIV tests, but this might deal with two problems at the same time. |
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Problem with a vaccine that gives a positive HIV-test is that it makes HIV-testing less reliable...in communications "testing positive for HIV after vaccination"-even if the test result is false as far as it has anything to do with the vaccination-will remain a major problem. Even if the vaccine for the rest would do a great job.. |
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ABC: New Zealand Cabinet agrees to trans-Tasman bubble with Australia. |
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I don't believe the vaccine is dangerous Just you could test positive for HIV...!!!!! I'm not sure what I think...on this one.... Take care all π·π |
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I wonder how their vaccine relates to the ones other companies are developing and if the same issues could exist. |
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Dutch Josh
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DJ-Very alarming [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/bulletin-australia-covid-19-vaccine-causing-hiv-positive-test-results[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/bulletin-australia-covid-19-vaccine-causing-hiv-positive-test-results - Reality check; [url]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/11/australia-terminates-university-of-queensland-vaccine-deal-with-csl-after-false-positives-for-hiv[/url] or https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/11/australia-terminates-university-of-queensland-vaccine-deal-with-csl-after-false-positives-for-hiv ; The Australian government has terminated its agreement with Australian biotech company CSL Limited to supply 51m doses of a Covid-19 vaccine being developed by the University of Queensland, after vaccine trial participants returned false positive test results for HIV. - To ensure that the vaccine induced the right immune response, the clamp chosen comprises two fragments of a protein found in HIV, as those fragments provided the greatest stability to the vaccine. Adding those fragments to the spike protein is completely harmless. Trial participants were advised of the possibility that vaccine-induced HIV antibodies might be detected as a result, but it was nonetheless unexpected. Subsequent HIV tests provided definitive negative results in the trial participants. DJ-No doubt some now will claim ALL Covid19 vaccines spread AIDS....not based on the real story... |
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The Associated Press: The Latest: Australia to extend ban on leaving country. |
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PerthNow: Coronavirus crisis: Why Australia won’t rush to roll out COVID-19 vaccine. |
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NEWS.com.au: COVID quarantine: Huge problem with high-risk hotel program. |
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That stupid, stupid man! ugh! Wishing you the best in Australia!! |
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I agree Witchy, The only danger is Australians returning,and not doing the right thing...... The question I have for them is Why they would risk Australia getting a severe outbreak,?? we seem to be on top of it, Time will tell.... Take care all especially you Yanks.....not looking good for you....... Stay safe, be safe......π·ππ |
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I agree, Carbon. But there's something to be said for gettin' while the gettin's good. If you haven't had any new infections there's no reason why people can't have a break from the tedium of shutdowns and stay at home. Especially if testing continues and any microclusters can be caught before the virus makes it's way into the general population. |
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Best not count the chucks before they hatch...... This is a nasty virus and there's some silly people out there........ The Guardian: South Australians urged to get Covid tests after man with virus goes 'out and about' in Adelaide. Take care all. π·π |
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When I first saw this picture I thought "How terrible, what a way to spread covid-19", but then I realised that this is the look of a country that has managed to control the virus, Well done Australia Temperatures in Sydney over the weekend have hit 40C |
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Thank roni, They did the hard yards, Hope it stays free for all our sakes..... Take care stay safe π·π |
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Thats amazing Carbon! I hope it lasts! Wishing Australia and you the best!!! |
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ABC: Victoria hits 28 days with no new coronavirus cases or deaths. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-27/victoria-coronavirus-zero-cases-28-days-elimination/12925674 |
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We here in Western Australia,are only opening up to the rest of Australia, excluding NSW,and Victoria,anyone that comes here have to have checks and quarantine for 2 weeks, International travel not allowed....only Australias wanting to come home 30k at last count, Then it's 2 weeks under police guard in hotel at your expense($3,000approx) So only if someone stuffs up like what happened in Melbourne, and let's covid out, but no one wants 6 /8 weeks lockdown...... (The only covid here at the moment is in returned Australians.....all in quarantine....) Because that's the only thing that works...... As our state is opening up to the rest of Australia,(with restrictions) We have been asked to wear masks for a while if on public transport,crowds etc..... See what our people do? Will be interesting.... Take care everyone stay safe....π·π...... |
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Yikes! Is that going to stop you guys from opening or what? |
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ABC News: Coronavirus infections double in Sydney's quarantine hotels as cases explode overseas. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-02/nsw-coronavirus-cases-in-quarantine-hotels-double/12827284 |
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I think most people will comply with the rules, no-one wants a lock down, Our biggest problem is returning AUSSIES still 30k overseas, who want to come back,can only take a few hundreds back every few weeks, as they have to stay in quarantine for 2 weeks under guard,not many flights and it cost big $$$$$, We shall see how it all pans out..... Stay safe all π·π |
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fingers crossed for you carbon!! |
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Yes it is great news, Our state opening up tentivley from November 12..... |
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G'Day. They say that "No News is Good News". Well we have a day with no corvonavirus news from Australia, and that is Good News.
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The West Australian: Coronavirus crisis: Man ordered to wear ankle bracelet after WA border breach. |
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Here in NZ we went back to level 1 at midnight last night, all of us except Auckland who have to remain at level 2 for 2 weeks. Level 1 means life as normal. |
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The Age: 'We're in the last quarter of a game': Experts urge Victoria to stay the course. |
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Link corrected in previous post. Thanks for the notification of the problem. Correct link: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54230578 |
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The page of the first link you posted seems to be unavailable. |
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Not covid related but some nice news out of Australia https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54230578 Also good news "Australia coronavirus cases 'set to be lowest in months'" https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54223977 Lock downs do work if applied early enough: "Mr Andrews has defended the state's strict lockdown, pointing to rising cases in Europe. " |
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you OK? keeping safe? |
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I would really, really like to move to Australia right about now. |
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Our borders remain sealed,not many people here want to open them yet,and why would we..... Mind you it's very easy to seal our borders..... |
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oh my carbon! haha. Everything in the states is opening back up full throttle....hope it doesn't bite them in the arse!! |
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ABC News: With coronavirus border restrictions, Scott Morrison is at the whim of the states — and it's worse than we thought. |
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ABC News: Kerry O'Brien tells Q&A Australia's political system is letting down younger generation, fears we're going down same path as US. |
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No flu as yet, (no tourists) nasty chesty cold doing the rounds...stay well all..π·π |
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Well my fingers are crossed for you my friend. Also keep us updated on flu as well! |
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