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EdwinSm, ![]() Moderator ![]() Joined: April 03 2013 Status: Offline Points: 24065 |
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Border closing is having an effect on population numbers.....
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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C19 has cost us $200billion in supporting business and jobs.... We a wealthy country, I pity some other countries that were poverty stricken before this all happened, The down turn in migration will be welcomed by some, Although we a very big country ,the habital areas are getting smaller and with climate change,things can only get worse..... I worry what the World will be like for my grandchildren... Soylet Green......π |
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CRS, DrPH ![]() Expert Level Adviser ![]() Joined: January 20 2014 Location: Arizona Status: Offline Points: 26660 |
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Yikes! I lived for several years in the Tulsa area and know the Okie mentality well....I can just imagine. Here in AZ, we have an interesting mix of liberal Democratic Northern transplants and home-grown conservatives. AZ is transforming into a purple, perhaps eventually blue (liberal Democrat) state, which is interesting. However, like OK, we have our hard-core "won't wear a mask, ever!" crowd. I get very nervous when shopping in large stores like Super Wal-Mart, since there have been armed confrontations. NEVER confront a person not wearing a mask, just avoid them. Penham, I'm very fond of OK, so it hurts me to see you having so many troubles. My wife and I sequester ourselves and work entirely from home, so we have withdrawn from the local economy - no restaurant meals, limited shopping, no socializing etc. Be safe out there! |
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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Sydney Morning Herald: 'Mr McGowan, tear down this wall': Federal Libs mount case against WA's border restrictions. |
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roni3470 ![]() Adviser Group ![]() ![]() Joined: August 30 2006 Location: Colorado Status: Offline Points: 5390 |
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Yikes...doesn't sound good Carbon..... |
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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Not many people here liking the Federal government at the moment, I called the office of govener general,said when the constitution was written did they foresee a pandemic..... Did they make provision for it..... Of course the answer is No.... So therefore the constitution should be amended...... Our state premier had the full backing of the people...... To keep borders shut...... You should see the letters in local paper...... |
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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POWER TO THE PEOPLE...... Sense at last from our Prime Minister ABC News: Commonwealth withdraws from Clive Palmer border case, Prime Minister's letter to WA Premier reveals. |
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nzdad ![]() V.I.P. Member ![]() Joined: January 27 2020 Location: new zealand Status: Offline Points: 795 |
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i have seen two articles online in new zealand regarding australlias plight in the last hour. pictures show long lines,as hundreds of non-preppers dash to the supermarkets to stock-up. i despair at the stupidity on display here. after the first lockdown,everybody had the chance to get some supplies,lest 'another' lockdown occured later on. this was an equal opportunity thing. everybody could have gotten a little something to put aside,.........but no.they were too proud i guess. remember fellow preppers,these are the same people who laughed at us for years,and 'joked' to us that they would just take [from us,by force if they felt inclined ] what they needed if the brown stuff ever hit the fan. im waiting for our media to be flooded with tales of woe and heartbreak,as the woefully unprepped face the consequences of reality. go ahead,tell me im wrong. |
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prepare for the worst,hope for the best.
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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All I can say is there's alot of ignorant people out there...... And there comes a time you have to look after your self first....... Q.who are the rescuers in a catastrophy..... A. the survivors...... Who are the survivors ? Preppers..... The lucky...... Natural selection in action..... Darwin/Wallace,Faraday,Newton,Einstine,Curie, Many more Great Educated ladies and men Science,science,science Where would we be without it...... |
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KiwiMum ![]() Chief Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: May 29 2013 Status: Offline Points: 29680 |
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Carbon I did laugh out loud this morning when I read that Scott Morrison was aiming to emulate NZ's strict lockdown because when we did it, Australian politicians were quick to accuse us of over reacting, committing economic suicide and being hysterical. Now the proof of the pudding's in the eating and they are following our lead, albeit 6 months too late. But seriously, I hope it works for your guys. It's amazing how quickly the numbers escalate. Now is a great time to do it because once spring and summer really get under way, they'll be no way of keeping you Aussies indoors, and you'll all be out and about socializing again. And just think about Christmas - lockdown over the festive season would be a complete nightmare. |
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Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesnβt accord with the facts.
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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NEWS.com.au: Coronavirus Australia: Melbourne now world’s strictest lockdown. |
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EdwinSm, ![]() Moderator ![]() Joined: April 03 2013 Status: Offline Points: 24065 |
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Australia records deadliest day but fewer new infections (19 deaths, 332 cases). Still extremely low figures compared to Europe and the Americas.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-53718184 |
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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Daily Mail: Scott Morrison says coronavirus restrictions will drag on into 2021. |
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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NEWS.com.au: AFL 2020: Wild details emerge of Elijah Taylor, girlfriend’s COVID breach. |
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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Just can't trust some people..... W..ker |
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roni3470 ![]() Adviser Group ![]() ![]() Joined: August 30 2006 Location: Colorado Status: Offline Points: 5390 |
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In Colorado, Douglas County specifically, things are getting back to normal. Our movie theaters are opening, Our grocery stores are back to normal, people at beaches and parks. We still have to wear masks thank goodness. I hope i am wrong and that this thing fizzles out but I gotta tell you that I am worried for the fall! People are so hung up in thinking this is political they aren't even paying attention! |
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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Anyone with half brain would be worried about the fall, and winter is coming....... Maybe rolling in the snow will cure C19..... Only joking......π·π Keep safe all |
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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NEWS.com.au: Perth hotel quarantine: Mark McGowan flags ankle bracelets for high-risk guests. |
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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The Guardian: Victoria's new coronavirus cases fall to lowest rate in two months as 18 more die from Covid-19. |
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roni3470 ![]() Adviser Group ![]() ![]() Joined: August 30 2006 Location: Colorado Status: Offline Points: 5390 |
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Great news! Seems things are getting better most places or am I nieve? |
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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Let's hope so, My family over in the east are going stir crazy but they know and see that things are improving..... Underlockdown....... And mask wearing...... Most !!! Australians pull together in a crisis....... |
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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ABC News: Victorian coronavirus restrictions could be lifted with 'ring-fencing' in hotspot areas, WHO advisor says. |
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roni3470 ![]() Adviser Group ![]() ![]() Joined: August 30 2006 Location: Colorado Status: Offline Points: 5390 |
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Well my fingers are crossed for you my friend. Also keep us updated on flu as well! |
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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No flu as yet, (no tourists) nasty chesty cold doing the rounds...stay well all..π·π |
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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ABC News: Kerry O'Brien tells Q&A Australia's political system is letting down younger generation, fears we're going down same path as US. |
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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ABC News: With coronavirus border restrictions, Scott Morrison is at the whim of the states — and it's worse than we thought. |
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roni3470 ![]() Adviser Group ![]() ![]() Joined: August 30 2006 Location: Colorado Status: Offline Points: 5390 |
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oh my carbon! haha. Everything in the states is opening back up full throttle....hope it doesn't bite them in the arse!! |
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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Our borders remain sealed,not many people here want to open them yet,and why would we..... Mind you it's very easy to seal our borders..... |
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BeachMama ![]() V.I.P. Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 25 2020 Location: Southwest US Status: Offline Points: 3080 |
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I would really, really like to move to Australia right about now. |
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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you OK? keeping safe? |
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EdwinSm, ![]() Moderator ![]() Joined: April 03 2013 Status: Offline Points: 24065 |
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Not covid related but some nice news out of Australia https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54230578 Also good news "Australia coronavirus cases 'set to be lowest in months'" https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54223977 Lock downs do work if applied early enough: "Mr Andrews has defended the state's strict lockdown, pointing to rising cases in Europe. " |
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WitchMisspelled ![]() Adviser Group ![]() ![]() Joined: January 20 2020 Status: Offline Points: 17170 |
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The page of the first link you posted seems to be unavailable. |
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EdwinSm, ![]() Moderator ![]() Joined: April 03 2013 Status: Offline Points: 24065 |
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Link corrected in previous post. Thanks for the notification of the problem. Correct link: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54230578 |
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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The Age: 'We're in the last quarter of a game': Experts urge Victoria to stay the course. |
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KiwiMum ![]() Chief Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: May 29 2013 Status: Offline Points: 29680 |
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Here in NZ we went back to level 1 at midnight last night, all of us except Auckland who have to remain at level 2 for 2 weeks. Level 1 means life as normal. |
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Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesnβt accord with the facts.
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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The West Australian: Coronavirus crisis: Man ordered to wear ankle bracelet after WA border breach. |
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EdwinSm, ![]() Moderator ![]() Joined: April 03 2013 Status: Offline Points: 24065 |
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G'Day. They say that "No News is Good News". Well we have a day with no corvonavirus news from Australia, and that is Good News.
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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Yes it is great news, Our state opening up tentivley from November 12..... |
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roni3470 ![]() Adviser Group ![]() ![]() Joined: August 30 2006 Location: Colorado Status: Offline Points: 5390 |
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fingers crossed for you carbon!! |
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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I think most people will comply with the rules, no-one wants a lock down, Our biggest problem is returning AUSSIES still 30k overseas, who want to come back,can only take a few hundreds back every few weeks, as they have to stay in quarantine for 2 weeks under guard,not many flights and it cost big $$$$$, We shall see how it all pans out..... Stay safe all π·π |
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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ABC News: Coronavirus infections double in Sydney's quarantine hotels as cases explode overseas. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-02/nsw-coronavirus-cases-in-quarantine-hotels-double/12827284 |
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roni3470 ![]() Adviser Group ![]() ![]() Joined: August 30 2006 Location: Colorado Status: Offline Points: 5390 |
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Yikes! Is that going to stop you guys from opening or what? |
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carbon20 ![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: West Australia Status: Offline Points: 65816 |
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We here in Western Australia,are only opening up to the rest of Australia, excluding NSW,and Victoria,anyone that comes here have to have checks and quarantine for 2 weeks, International travel not allowed....only Australias wanting to come home 30k at last count, Then it's 2 weeks under police guard in hotel at your expense($3,000approx) So only if someone stuffs up like what happened in Melbourne, and let's covid out, but no one wants 6 /8 weeks lockdown...... (The only covid here at the moment is in returned Australians.....all in quarantine....) Because that's the only thing that works...... As our state is opening up to the rest of Australia,(with restrictions) We have been asked to wear masks for a while if on public transport,crowds etc..... See what our people do? Will be interesting.... Take care everyone stay safe....π·π...... |
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ABC: Victoria hits 28 days with no new coronavirus cases or deaths. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-27/victoria-coronavirus-zero-cases-28-days-elimination/12925674 |
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