Covid over in 30 days

Awwww thanks guys!  That made me feel all warm and fuzzy!    

Ditto.

I've been away from the forum for a while and am surprised people are still feeding into this. But then, stress needs a vent. Even before I stepped away, I stopped commenting on cobber's opinions.  Why? Because cobber has no skin in this game.  He and his are not in any danger.  He's an armchair critic.  After being up close and personal to the 1993 Trade Center bombing and subsequently 9/11, I learned a lot about armchair critics and their ease and spreading BS.  It's just that. And it's inconsequential.

'And https://www.avianflutalk.com/three-million-covid-deaths_topic43843_post306182.html#306182 which seems to show it is accelerating and worsening.

DW (English): The coronavirus pandemic is far from over.

https://dw.com/p/3eO3O?maca=en-gk-volltext-newsstand-topstories-en-10709-xml-googlenews

There are five more ways of looking at this, Cobber:

The disease maims some people.  We don't know what percentage of those people will never fully recover.

Yes, some of those over 70s with co morbidities would have died anyway.  But not all and every life matters.

The more people who have the virus, the more chances it gets to become nastier.  

The current death toll is lowered by the social distancing, hygene, medicine and masking.  It would be far, far worse without it.

The toll on health services is deadly enough.  I know people who have lost kith and kin to the virus, but even more who have lost people to the strain on the medical services.  Either way, folk are dead.

It is also a slow and horrible way to die.

'And it's not over yet!

Oppps sorry ,

it would be a little crowded....

Hard to social distance....lol

Take care all 😷😉

Covid infections in the USA are 30million with 500k dead,

Given the population of the USA is 3028 million......

A lot more could be infected.....alot more could die....

So it's not over won't be for years.....

Take care all 😷😉

New Scientist: Brazil faces health system collapse as covid-19 cases skyrocket.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24933283-500-brazil-faces-health-system-collapse-as-covid-19-cases-skyrocket/

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-idUSKBN2BK0NG

CNN : Signs of collapse across Brazil as Covid spirals out of control. Bolsonaro seems to have little response.

http://rss.cnn.com/~r/rss/cnn_topstories/~3/J_izdHnXPGg/index.html

Covid was a political con job and you all got dusted.

I hear Crow is tasty.

But, you made your point well enough to be worth a second post, Vi.

BUT, it cripples many folks with post-Covid-related illness that send people back in the hospital, keeps them out of work, and costs tax dollars.  A goodly portion of those people will never return to work.  A percentage of them will never be the same, as indicated upthread.

BUT, we don't know what surprises Covid has for us coming down the pike, ala Shingles, Post-Polio Syndrome, Encephalitis Lethargica, etc.  You will not know the cost of this disease potentially for 20, 50, 100 years.

I'm with Roni.

Yes, It has not killed so many, but there is more than one 'but' to that statement:

But, it is not over yet. Those plagues are.

But, those historical plagues did not have the interventions of modern medical knowledge, neither in treatment, nor quarrantine, nor distancing.

But, it is still mutating. It has lots of other coronaviruses to reassort with too.

But, it hospitalises a significant proportion of its hosts for months.

But, it has other hosts.  The only one known to share that trait is the black death.

We have vaccines, yes, but without strict controls it could rapidly get so much worse.

Please don't misquote me. I said the virus is a Powderpuff. And I'm correct. It is a powderpuff. 0.03% is nothing!!!!

The over reaction to the virus has been the catastrophe. 

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Now that it is 5 months after the election, and covid is still here but also having new waves overseas, I sure hope anyone that thought this was political feels somewhat different now.  

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sorry Roni3470......

Don't hold your breath on that one.......

I've been watching your news , people still without masks , partying without a care in the world......

Sheer madness.....

This virus is not going anywhere fast...

Take care all 😷😉

We cannot blame Biden for the Covid/testing fatigue that is manifest and ubiquitous worldwide.

Latest Dr Campbellvideo says reason US numbers appear to go down is testing is way down!!!

Thank you Biden!!  Before ads ran on TV all the time about where to get tested. Now they are done as well as street signs saying Covid testing done here. Interesting 

Carbon,  I am trying to get my head around what the "slow burn C-19" will mean... 

I guess booster shots each year is a good bet (at least it should only be one shot not two), if one is in a rich enough country.

Trade and travel will not stop (sorry Josh, the polititians won't listen to you on this), but I guess they will be at a much lower level than before the pandemic started, so we need to take holidays closer to home.  It also means that those of us with international families will be less able to travel to see them.  

However, I see elevated death rates (ie higher than a bad flu year, but maybe not as high as the rates we will hit this year) for years out.  This means lower life expectancy and in some "western" countries a faster (but still slow) rate of population decrease.   But statistics out of many populous countries (eg India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, China, nearly the whole of Africa) are so poor it is hard to see what would happen in those countries which hold a significant amount of the world's population.

Both my parents lived to 89 years old, but it is looking like I will not get to that exalted age as the risks from this virus will increase year by year.   

Babies and children are growing up without the usual socialization, so I wonder what emotional problems that will provide years down the line.  I also wonder if that will push an even greater level of isolation and what that means for society to hold together.   [These areas may take decades before the problems really start to show.]

Maybe a better title for the thread would be "Covid over in 30 years".

Impact on forecast of future case level
Date: Wed 3 Mar 2021

https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-variants/insight-when-will-it-end-how-a-changing-virus-is-reshaping-scientists-views-on-covid-19-idUSL5N2L14JR
Highlights:

Chris Murray, a University of Washington disease expert whose
projections on COVID-19 infections and deaths are closely followed
worldwide, is changing his assumptions about the course of the
pandemic.


But in the last month [February 2021], data from a vaccine trial in
South Africa showed not only that a rapidly spreading coronavirus
variant could dampen the effect of the vaccine, it could also evade
natural immunity in people who had been previously infected. "I
couldn't sleep" after seeing the data, Murray, , told
Reuters. "When will it end?" he asked himself, referring to the
pandemic.

But, they [scientists], say data in recent weeks on new variants from South Africa
and Brazil has undercut that optimism.

They now believe that
SARS-CoV-2 will not only remain with us as an endemic virus,
continuing to circulate in communities, but will likely cause a
significant burden of illness and death for years to come.

As a result, the scientists said, people could expect to continue to
take measures such as routine mask-wearing and avoiding crowded places
during COVID-19 surges, especially for people at high risk.

Even after
vaccination, "I still would want to wear a mask if there was a variant
out there," Dr. Anthony Fauci, chief medical advisor to US President
Joe Biden, said in an interview. "All you need is one little flick of
a variant (sparking) another surge, and there goes your prediction"
about when life gets back to normal.